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A03269 An answere to a popish ryme, lately scattered abroad in the west parts, and much relyed vpon by some simply-seduced. By Samuel Hieron, minister of the word of God, at Modbury in Deuon Hieron, Samuel, 1576?-1617.; Marlorat, Augustin, 1506-1562. Catholike and ecclesiasticall exposition of the holy gospell after S. Marke and Luke. 1604 (1604) STC 13388; ESTC S119038 35,551 44

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to the Donatists Tract 1. in Ep. Iohan. Christ bids vs we the Church should tell If things be not reformed well By Church hee meanes all such as bée Indued with Authority i The same which Paul calleth Presbyterion 1. Tim. 4.14 The Eldership These Office-bearers all men sée In times of setled Souerainty Yea and among them selues th' are knowne When th' outward state is ouerthrowne The Error of this Popish Argument When that was said in speciall You turne to Church in generall Thereby you may deceiue some fooles But soone it will be séene in Schooles This Argument of outward state Which for a Marke you intimate Against that thing doth strongly make Which you to prooue do vndertake Romes state hath sometimes bin obscur'd And hath disgraces soule endur'd Burnt k By the Gothes 547. sackt l By Charles Duke of Burbon in the dayes of Pope Clement the 7. wherevpon was made the clause in the Letany Sancta Maria c. O holy Mary pray for Pope Clement c. some Popes imprisoned m Iohn 14. Boniface 8. about the yeere 1304. Some glad to fly n Iohn 17. fled to Hetruria some banished o Vigilius 18. Gregory 9. about the yeere 1227. Where did your glorious Church abide When Popes were glad themselues to hide Peace peace no more of this for shame Rome sayth thou wilt her cleane defame * Succession Succession cometh next in place Whereby thou séekst thy Church to grace Your turne Succession cannot serue If from the Trueth Succession swerue The Iewish Church from Aaron A iust descent might stand vpon Euen when they crucifide our Lord And hated all that lou'd his Word If we shall say that Church was true Consisting of so vile a crue We cast Christ and the Apostles out Among the base and damned rout The Grecian Churches at this day For their defence as much can say p At Constantinople there hath beene a perpetuall Succession from S. Andrew Niceph. At Alexandria from Saint Marke Yet you of them doe giue this doome That in Gods church they haue no 〈◊〉 Yet if Succession were a signe Which your graund captayne Bellarmine Dares not auouch q Bellarmine sayeth it followeth negatiuely that where there is no succession there is no church but not affirmatiuely that where there is succession there is a Church I sayne would sée How Rome can proue her Pedigrée You call your Church Saint Peters chayre As though the Pope were Peters Heyre But if that ground we once deny What Papist can it verify You cannot proue by holy Writ Peter at Rome did Bishop sit The onely place which you doe name r 1. Pet. 5.13 The Rhemists say that there by Babylon is ment Rome so they cōfesse Rome to be Babylon Returneth to your greater shame The things you fetch from History Touching this poynt doe not agrée s Osorius sayth Peter came to Rome in the beginning of Claudius raigne Hierome in the 2. yere others in the 4. yere other the 13 yere Damasus saith he came thither in Neroes raign so that there is no certainty in that which they make an vndoubted principle And what our part hath herein sed By Papists stands vnanswered But if hee Bishop were indéede Tell me who next did him succéede Some Clement t The Popes decrees hold so and some Linus hold v Dorotheus Euseb li. 3. cap. 4. Hieron in Catalo Thus your succession is controld Once was a Pope suppos'd a man w Iohn 8. Platina The womans name was Gilberta a Dutch woman of Maguntium But prou'd in time a Courtezan Then eyther your Succession shranke Or you must put her in the ranke When Popes there were some two x Two Popes together Anno 1083. Anno 1058. 1062. or thrée y Bened. 9. Siluest 3. Greg. 6. all at one time and at another time Ben. 13. a Spanish Pope Greg. 12. a French Pope and Iohn 23. an Italian Pope Where thē might your successiō be One Schisme held almost fourty yere z 39. yeeres From Pope to Pope as doeth appeare a Let their Ancestors speake One Councel b The Councill of Constance did these Popes put downe And to another gaue the crowne When these false Popes the place possest I thinke you le say Succession ceast Vnity 'T Is true Christs Church is alwayes one Tyd vnto him as Head alone The partes thereof do well agrée c Acts 4.23 Like children of one Family But yet not euery company Together linckt in Vnity Must by and by be called good If Trueth by them shal be withstood To make a Calfe they all agréed d Exod. 32.1 All cry'd Let Christ be crucifi'd e Math. 27.22 Great is Diana with a shoute At once the people all cry'd out f Acts 19.34 Iohn sayd they should yéeld to the Beast Euen from the greatest to the least g Apoc. 13.16 As Christ his City is but one So is the Deuils Babylon h Vt est dei vna ecclesia sic est diaboli vn a Babylon Aug. de Ciui Dei The best sometimes do disagrée i Peter and Paul Gal 2.11 Paul Barnabas Acts 15.39 Chrysost Theophilact and Epiphanius Augustine and Hierome Cyrill Theodoret Each man hath his Infirmity Better the Discord bringing Light Then is agréement without right k Kreisson empathous omonoias he vper eusebeias diastasis Nazianz Oratione prima de pace Yet by this Marke if Rome be try'd It will fall hard vpon your side Your ioynt-consent we can not find Nor that you all are of one mind If we shall credit History You can not bragge of Vnity Where twenty seueral schismes haue béen l Genebrardus in Chro. What Harmony may there be séene The Lawes which one determineth The Pope that follows cancelleth m Stephen 6. abrogated all his Predecessors decrees Formosus tooke vp his body cut two fingers of his right hād off and buried him agayne Yet things by him abolished By next Popes are established n The following Popes Theodorus 2. Romanus Ioh. 10. confirmed all Formosus his actes And yet another o After all Pope Sergius disanulled their acts tooke vp Formosus his body cast it into Tibur Ex. Poly. Chron. comes behind Who with the former fault doth find And all which they did quite displace Reduceth to the former grace Thus one sage Counsell doth decrée Another sayth it may not bée p The first Nicene Coūcell allowed Priests mariage and the Communion in both kinds The Councels of Constāce Basil forbade the Laity the vse of the cup. The coūcel of Trent forbiddeth both the Cup to the Laity and marriage to the Clergy The third Coūcell of Carthage pronoūced him accursed called him the Forerunner of Antichrist whosoeuer should terme himselfe Vniuersal Bishop but now the Councel of Trent curseth him who shall deny the
to vse Sodomitry Wesellus Groningensis in a Treatise de Indulg Papalibus at the foote of the licence was written Fiat vt petitur Be it as it is requested Who but the Pope receiueth rent Which from the Stewes to him is sent o Euery commō harlot in Rome payd a Fee to Pope Sixtus 4. Agrippa in his declam ad Louā Let Rome and Venice make report And all that thither doe resort Who hath in Méeter vile exprest The sinne which nature doeth detest Let Beneuentum name the man p The Archbishop of Beneuentum Iohannes a Casa Deane of the Popes chamber vsed Sodomy and commended it in Italian Meeter the booke was printed at Venice by Troianus Nauus see the writing of Paulus Vergerius against this Archbishop Doe thou disproue it if thou can If this among your Heads be found How shall we thinke the members sound Lord blesse vs from such holy Popes And Lord make voyd all popish hopes Like to your Popes your seruice is Holy seruice Wanting no store of blasphemies Which lest the people should espy You hyde in Latine secrecy I néede no better witnesses Then your allowed Portesses Your Missals and your Letanies And all your forged Psalteries What we to God alone must giue That to the Saints you doe deriue God will not from his glory part q Isa 48.11 Yet you to creatures it conuert Vnto the Saints you prayers make r There is neither commaundement in the Scripture that we should pray to saints nor promise that if we doe pray to them we shall be heard vpon which 2. euery lawful praier must be built And beg saluation for their sake s In their praiers vpon the saints dayes stil those words come in that by their merits we may haue profit by their requests wee may be deliuered c. And Lambard saith the Saints do iunare nos merito l. 4. dist 45. d. 10. You do adore a piece of bread t When it is carried in procession for though it were true that the bread in the Sacrament is turned into the Body of Christ yet the Sacramēt being ended it must needs return to the former nature And make fond u They are fond because touching th' estate of the dead there is no certainty prayers for the dead You knéele downe to a Crosse of wood w All hayle O Crosse our only hope c. encrease righteousnesse to the godly and giue pardon to the guilty In breniario infra Heb. 4. Quad. Thinking thereby to purchase good And for some things you would haue done You pray the Virgin charge her Sonne x Roga Patrem iube natū iure matris impera c. Pray the father charge thy sonne commaund by the right of a mother In officio beata Maria. With Christ you do saint Frances ioyne y They say that Saint Francis could saue all that shall liue after him to the end of the world through his merits from euerlasting Death Flosc beati Francis Conformit s Fran. Tho. lib. 4. dist 4. art 3. And so his glory doe purloyne One Mediator z 1. Tim. 2.5 That place proueth that there is but one Mediator as well as that there is but one God we doe know You haue ioynd with him many moe a The forme of Absolution to Penitentiaries runneth thus The passion of Christ and the merites of the blessed Virgin of Saint Peter and Saint Paul and of other hee and shee Saints be vnto thee in remission of sinnes We doe the Virgin Blessed call b Luke 1.48 And say shee passed women all But when you call her Gate of Grace c Coeli senestra Regis al●i ian●a c. We say Christs honour you deface The thing which made her spirit glad Was that shée such a Sauiour had d Luke 1.47 Can she on him commaundement haue Whose helpe shée néeded her to saue * What honour is due to the Saints This honour to the Saints we giue We craue Gods grace like them to liue e 1. Cor. 11.1 We care to keepe their memory f Heb. 13.7 And God in them we glorify g Gal. 1.23 ‡ Holy Ceremonies Your Ceremonies idle be And sauour most of vanity You stand so much on out ward show That you the substance ouerthrow With Images and Pictures gay You steale the peoples hearts away Well may you please the outward eye The Spirit you do not edifie A pretie play to sée a Priest Tossing his God betwéene his fist Such Gestures and such Apish mowes Such warbling and such Anticke showes h Whoso readeth the Canō of the Masse shall there see a world of idle ridiculus ceremonies Now bends now ducks now stands vpright Then turnes him to the peoples sight Now sighes now twenty crosses makes And 'ore his head the Wafer shakes Then washeth then the Challice lickes And shuttes his Idoll in the Pixe But still the man is much afeard Lest ought should hang vpon his beard Meane while the vulgar in a maze Vpon the Caky Idol gaze And knock and kneele thinke them well That they haue heard the sacring Bell. Tell mée I pray thée doth God will With such fond Kites his Church to fill They neuer came into his thought i Iere. 19.5 Tradition onely hath them brought k They say indeed that they haue the forme of the Masse by the traditiō of the Apostles Rhem. 1. Cor. 11. s 22. but the truth is that it was now a piece and then a piece patched vp by their own Popes Sixtùs 2. broght in the Sanctus Innocētius 1. the Pax. Leo 1. added this clause A holy sacrifice and vnbloudy Host Gelacius the Prefaces Collects Gradualts Symmachus the Gloria in excelsis Agapetus 1. the Processiōs Pelagius 2. nyne Prefaces before the Canon Sergius 1. Agnus Dei and Gregory 1. confesseth that one Scolasticus made most part of the Canon Holy masse or sacrifice Your Rites and Masse do well agrée Both full of grosse Idolatry Both are vnholy and vnsound Both wantyng holy Scripture ground You say that in the Eucharist To God is offred by the Priest A Sacrifice in wine and bread l Rhem. Heb. 7. s 8. Concil Trident. ses 22. cap. 1. Both for the liuing and the dead m Conc. Trid. ses 22. cap. 3. Looke first what Christ did institute n Mat. 26.26 Mat. 14.22 Lu. 22.19 1. Cor. 11.24 And that one place shall you refute What he did we must do likewise o This do ye 1. Cor. 11.25 There 's no word of a Sacrifice By this sayd Christ Remember me That shewes he would not present p Bodily hi● We keepe such things in memory Which we behold not really The Priests of old did euery day Some Offring on the Altar lay q Heb. 10.11 Christs holy Offring is but One Performed by himselfe alone r Heb. 10.12 If Christ shall often offred