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truth_n	apostle_n	church_n	spirit_n	3,973	5	5.1707	4	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A78474	Certaine modest observations and considerations of the true Protestants of the Church of England· For their right choyce of church governours, and church ceremonies, together with the church liturgie, according to the word of God. Presented in all humility to the high and Honourable houses of Parliament to bee voted and enacted, and to maintaine against all opposers. With the good meanes to expedite the same. Leaving the authors iudgement to your wisedomes best considerations.		1641 (1641)	Wing C1706; Thomason E178_7; ESTC R1377	7,880	14

Christ whom onely taking and making away them with a more stricter addition to all their favorites more then our Lawes have yet truly executed you would then seeke and settle the good of this Protestant Church the brightnesse of the Renovation and setling of the true Govrenors and Government of the Church by your Renovation setled of the true Governors and Government by which meanes all Sects Schismes and opinions with their Abettors will vanish of themselves away by the Sun-shine light of the Protestants Church and truth or be brought home from their sepetated opinions some of which professe one truth with us in Doctrine though not in their departure and seperation For now as it standeth undecided and not done to settle the right way by your honoured Acts Atheists hold themselves good Christians thinking the best way to be Newters and all Sectaries lives in hope so as the Land is polluted with their infecting and seducing simple people And therefore after removing the Adversaries the Papists it is the chiefe care as at first your Honourable purposes in all your excellent caused Orations and Speeches there to have begun and setled the house of God which by dumbe Dogs wicked Ministers c. to abolish cleane in which it is well knowne you have laboured in greatly if it were effected without opposition The 5. Consideration Jf there be any opposition against the good meaning you voting of this your good purposes Jt is in them that are either Malevolent to the State of Protestancy and such are not fit to be allowed vote at all or such that are ignorant wise and have not perused the unlawfulnesse of ill custome by Antiquity from right wayes and them rather to be disputed withall by forcible arguments but J should humbly referre them onely to one Booke among others concerning the danger of Limitted Prelacy not well answerable and yet answered by some slightly in the Prelates behalfe under the colour and title of a modest Advertisement and in a calme examination so called as if the first did arise from some storme which J perceive not at all but as a good gale of wind to sale by and the Answere● seemes to becalme the voyage of Grace and would cause it to lye at his Anchor to hinder the true wayes proceeding already honourably and Religiously intended to arrive at the Port of Truth As this Parliament hath partly voted already So as if his title of calmnesse may signifie weaknesse his whose answer layes it open upon him for sure it is better to have a ●●e-growing storme to increase the ground-work to goodnesse then to have a dry Calme to hinder it for under his Calme seemes but a Cavill as from his Reasons may be well seene Jt were too large here for to discusse them all to so wise a Senate shewing in him meerely a naturall politique braine to find out faire Reasons in a foule understanding As for instance in our accustomed Discipline to defend the Answeres by way of Cueres 1. Whether it is so bad as men living under it are not capable of Salvation a stout Argument when as they may be capable without it and that Salvation may be under the Government of Turkes and Papists although not by it and so in other places And why shou●d Episcopall Martyrs be allowed a ground to make good that which is bad of it selfe in their Discipline of truth pretended no● erroneous and yet no doubt those Martyrs may be saved too for standing to the true Faith against Heresie 2. By way of ●uaere saith if any desire a better Discipline instead are they all agreed what they shall be from Scripture or by evidence of necessary consequence of Logicall differences Wherein if Divines must chop Logick for maintenance of truth directed by the Scriptures already as if that were not plain without Logick Rules We shall make the Scripture like a nose of Wax as Logicke can doe and Papists uphold 3. And his third and ●ast Reason by ●uare Whether the new Discipline be a plaine Commandement or forbidden in the old I admit of neither of both It is sufficient Answer That the examples of a true Discipline desired is appointed by the Apostles directions in the Church in their times where the truth and true Church was knowne it is sale for us to ●unta●e and follow as neere as we can as a precept and ●ule to us because they were especially directed by the Spirit of God and so by inference a certain Rule and Example for the Protestant Church so neere to follow and on the contrary side the old Discipline being contrary to the Apostles and Churches practice therein in their time is a forbidding in way of Truth though otherwise seeming to the Prelates never so good and I partly know yee have given order concerning the Examination of the Litturgy Apocrip●● and singing Psalmes to amend by Learned and wise Divines as to your great commendation it may with other things be spoken But the said three Reasons so calmely put with the rest of the Booke we may calmely reject is but indeed a Calme C●vill not fit in common reason much lesse for so wise and honourable a Senate since it is to no purpose but to uphold the Prelates and their Discipline and Government which made their voyage from old ill customes and examples from bad Presidents and places corrupt and brought it into England in the Nonage of our Church 1 And if it be a Puritanicall pack as the Archbishop and other Bishops doe conceive it to maintaine the unlawfulnesse of Pluralities and non-residency 2 By Vnpreaching Prelates and Ministers 3 Sole Ordination and Election Excommunication c. 4 To abate the Clergies pompe Ambition Lordlinesse and Riches 5 The mis-imploying the Temporalities of the Church 6 To restraine the Clergie from medling with temporall Offices and affaires 7 To abhorre the ill use of the Oath Ex Officio 8 The Reformation of the Litargie all offensive which by divers men have been complained of by Bookes in print and by way of Petition for remedy and most especially in a noble defence of Church Prayers Objected by Seperatists Which the Scots vsed not nor reformed Churches a most Learned Lord of the Vpper house of Peeres had solidly and wisely opened the truth for some seperation for ill use of the same as disagreeing to the worke of Gods holy Spirit which setling our Church in the foresaid grievances it will open the way as I said to bring the Seperatists and others in obedience with us And if for these matters of Reformation aforesaid men dare thinke or count you Puritanes let not these Honourable Houses and Grave Senators therein thinke it no harme so to be so accompted by loose libertines for your wise endeavours to vote and enact these things to be done for thereby you shall be purer then they and find that beatitude Blessed are the pure in heart for these your Votes Acts must be done from your