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of_o the_o crime_n the_o various_a species_n of_o they_o the_o obligation_n of_o restitution_n etc._n etc._n but_o also_o as_o physician_n to_o prescribe_v wholesome_a remedy_n to_o prevent_v relapse_n etc._n etc._n which_o can_v be_v do_v without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o case_n and_o therefoe_n though_o we_o assert_v the_o great_a convenience_n of_o private_a or_o auricular_a confession_n to_o take_v away_o the_o occasion_n of_o fear_n shame_n and_o scandal_n yet_o our_o dispute_n be_v not_o so_o much_o upon_o that_o as_o upon_o a_o necessity_n of_o declare_v our_o sin_n to_o a_o spiritual_a physician_n which_o whether_o it_o be_v public_o or_o private_o matter_n not_o so_o it_o be_v do_v and_o without_o do_v which_o we_o say_v neither_o can_v a_o judge_n pronounce_v a_o just_a sentence_n nor_o a_o physician_n prescribe_v wholesome_a remedy_n we_o grant_v therefore_o that_o public_a confession_n be_v much_o in_o use_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n for_o public_a sin_n and_o that_o it_o be_v follow_v with_o a_o public_a penance_n for_o they_o but_o that_o be_v most_o common_o either_o after_o or_o accompany_v with_o private_a confession_n of_o their_o secret_a sin_n also_o that_o this_o public_a confession_n be_v a_o part_n of_o discipline_n and_o therefore_o alterable_a at_o pleasure_n we_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o either_o public_a or_o private_a confession_n be_v necessary_a we_o affirm_v he_o tell_v we_o 4â—_n pag._n 4â—_n that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n refuse_v no_o sort_n of_o confession_n either_o public_a or_o private_a which_o may_v be_v any_o way_n necessary_a to_o the_o quiet_v of_o man_n conscience_n or_o to_o the_o exercise_v of_o that_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v which_o our_o saviour_n christ_n have_v leave_v to_o his_o church_n that_o her_o absolution_n be_v so_o full_a â—â—_o pag._n â—â—_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n itself_o can_v
of_o ourselves_o make_v a_o true_a and_o proper_a satisfaction_n to_o god_n for_o sin_n as_o he_o insinuate_v i_o will_v glad_o therefore_o have_v this_o author_n and_o with_o he_o all_o protestant_n to_o consider_v whether_o what_o he_o say_v be_v a_o sufficient_a ground_n to_o break_v off_o from_o a_o establish_a church_n and_o separate_v from_o her_o communion_n all_o the_o authority_n he_o bring_v be_v 24._o pag._n 24._o we_o think_v the_o whole_a of_o this_o point_n to_o be_v the_o advancement_n of_o a_o doctrine_n ground_v upon_o no_o authority_n of_o scripture_n etc._n etc._n and_o we_o be_v persuade_v that_o when_o ever_o god_n remit_v the_o crime_n he_o remit_v the_o punishment_n also_o 25._o pag._n 25._o it_o be_v a_o way_n most_o suitable_a to_o his_o divine_a goodness_n he_o tell_v we_o indeed_o that_o this_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n but_o cite_v no_o authority_n of_o canon_n or_o article_n for_o it_o which_o be_v very_o strange_a see_v this_o doctrine_n be_v of_o such_o concern_n that_o it_o give_v more_o to_o a_o sinner_n for_o say_v a_o bare_a lord_n have_v mercy_n upon_o we_o than_o all_o the_o plenary_a indulgence_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n against_o which_o they_o make_v such_o clamour_n and_o here_o also_o i_o can_v but_o wonder_n that_o he_o who_o so_o often_o use_v no_o other_o argument_n but_o we_o be_v persuade_v we_o think_v we_o suppose_v that_o in_o almost_o every_o article_n he_o bring_v this_o as_o his_o chief_a argument_n we_o suppose_v this_o be_v contrary_n to_o scripture_n or_o we_o think_v this_o be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v in_o it_o or_o in_o antiquity_n 25._o pag._n 25._o shall_v yet_o quarrel_v with_o the_o bishop_n of_o meaux_n for_o use_v that_o word_n and_o tell_v we_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v bring_v some_o better_a proof_n for_o so_o great_a a_o doctrine_n than_o bare_o we_o suppose_v and_o this_o especial_o when_o the_o bishop_n do_v not_o use_v the_o word_n but_o only_o nous_fw-fr croyons_fw-fr we_o believe_v and_o so_o it_o be_v render_v by_o i_o but_o it_o matter_n not_o this_o serve_v to_o make_v a_o show_n of_o a_o argument_n 31._o pag_n 25_o 27_o 31._o and_o must_v be_v improve_v upon_o several_a occasion_n indulgence_n indulgence_n follow_v next_o 27._o art_n 7._o pag._n 27._o and_o here_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o bishop_n of_o meaux_n have_v state_v our_o doctrine_n after_o a_o manner_n so_o favourable_a to_o they_o that_o he_o be_v persuade_v he_o will_v find_v more_o in_o his_o own_o church_n than_o in_o they_o to_o oppose_v his_o doctrine_n we_o do_v not_o hear_v of_o any_o one_o yet_o that_o have_v oppose_v it_o nay_o on_o the_o contrary_a we_o see_v it_o almost_o every_o where_o approve_v if_o the_o dispute_n in_o the_o school_n have_v descend_v to_o some_o particular_a nicety_n not_o express_v by_o the_o bishop_n neither_o he_o nor_o we_o be_v concern_v in_o they_o and_o if_o some_o abuse_n have_v creep_v in_o see_v he_o acknowledge_v that_o both_o the_o council_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o meaux_n seem_v willing_a to_o have_v they_o redress_v 28._o pag._n 28._o methinks_v it_o shall_v suffice_v he_o tell_v we_o indeed_o of_o many_o practice_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n different_a as_o he_o say_v from_o that_o of_o the_o primitive_a church_n but_o these_o be_v neither_o necessary_a nor_o universal_o receive_v we_o will_v not_o quarrel_v with_o he_o about_o they_o but_o content_v ourselves_o with_o what_o he_o have_v promise_v if_o he_o will_v stand_v to_o his_o word_n that_o whenever_o the_o penance_n shall_v be_v reduce_v to_o their_o former_a practice_n they_o will_v be_v ready_a to_o give_v or_o receive_v such_o a_o indulgence_n as_o mounseur_fw-fr de_fw-fr meaux_n have_v describe_v and_o as_o the_o primitive_a age_n of_o the_o church_n allow_v of_o purgatory_n though_o he_o will_v not_o allow_v a_o purgatory_n â—_o act._n â—_o yet_o he_o be_v force_v to_o acknowledge_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a in_o the_o very_a second_o century_n 31._o pag._n 31._o he_o will_v willing_o attribute_v this_o to_o any_o other_o intention_n than_o that_o of_o the_o church_n of_o aid_v or_o help_v soul_n depart_v nay_o further_o he_o tell_v we_o they_o will_v not_o condemn_v the_o practice_n 32._o pag._n 32._o so_o it_o be_v not_o make_v a_o article_n of_o our_o faith_n but_o since_o two_o general_a council_n have_v declare_v it_o that_o of_o florence_n in_o which_o the_o grecian_a bishop_n be_v and_o that_o of_o trent_n and_o since_o the_o practice_n of_o all_o nation_n and_o the_o testimony_n of_o every_o age_n confirm_v the_o custom_n of_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a that_o they_o may_v receive_v help_n what_o can_v we_o say_v to_o they_o who_o make_v a_o breach_n in_o the_o church_n and_o condemn_v antiquity_n upon_o no_o other_o ground_n than_o a_o bare_a supposition_n that_o it_o be_v injurious_a to_o the_o merit_n of_o jesus_n christ_n which_o yet_o have_v no_o other_o proof_n but_o their_o vain_a presumption_n art_fw-la viii_o of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o general_n in_o his_o second_o part_n he_o tell_v we_o â—â—_o art_n 9_o pag._n â—â—_o that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o sacrament_n have_v always_o be_v esteem_v one_o of_o the_o most_o considerable_a obstacle_n to_o their_o union_n with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o they_o can_v imagine_v why_o m._n de_fw-fr meaux_n shall_v insinuate_v as_o if_o our_o dispute_n about_o these_o except_o it_o be_v in_o the_o point_n of_o the_o eucharist_n be_v not_o so_o great_a as_o about_o other_o matter_n unless_o say_v he_o it_o be_v to_o serve_v for_o a_o excuse_n for_o his_o own_o pass_v so_o light_o over_o they_o or_o to_o make_v we_o less_o careful_a in_o examine_v their_o doctrine_n one_o will_v think_v to_o hear_v this_o discourse_n that_o this_o author_n have_v something_o very_o material_a to_o bring_v against_o our_o church_n neither_o have_v he_o give_v we_o any_o reason_n to_o suspect_v he_o will_v be_v careless_a in_o such_o a_o grand_fw-fr concern_v we_o will_v trace_v he_o in_o each_o sacrament_n and_o see_v whether_o the_o argument_n he_o bring_v be_v sufficient_a or_o not_o to_o justify_v a_o breach_n in_o the_o church_n which_o have_v be_v the_o occasion_n of_o so_o great_a evil_n and_o first_o in_o this_o article_n we_o find_v little_a difference_n betwixt_o our_o doctrine_n as_o to_o the_o nature_n and_o efficacy_n of_o the_o sacrament_n or_o as_o to_o the_o necessity_n of_o they_o or_o manner_n how_o they_o confer_v grace_n or_o the_o disposition_n requisite_a to_o partake_v of_o their_o effect_n the_o chief_a difference_n lie_v in_o the_o diversity_n of_o expression_n and_o as_o for_o the_o number_n of_o sacrament_n he_o have_v remove_v the_o chief_a obstacle_n by_o tell_v we_o in_o the_o close_a of_o this_o article_n that_o their_o own_o church_n say_v but_o little_o more_o than_o what_o our_o great_a schoolman_n have_v voluntary_o confess_v but_o he_o need_v not_o to_o have_v go_v to_o the_o schoolman_n for_o if_o they_o exact_v this_o notion_n of_o a_o sacrament_n that_o it_o must_v be_v general_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n as_o their_o catechism_n express_v it_o it_o be_v true_a they_o will_v not_o find_v seven_o sacrament_n but_o i_o be_o afraid_a also_o they_o will_v scarce_o establish_v two_o and_o if_o they_o add_v with_o this_o author_n that_o the_o other_o sacrament_n be_v not_o sacrament_n after_o the_o same_o manner_n that_o baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v 41._o pag._n 41._o it_o will_v be_v ready_o grant_v they_o see_v the_o very_a word_n of_o our_o profession_n of_o faith_n express_v muchwhat_a the_o same_o thing_n when_o it_o tell_v we_o there_o be_v seven_o sacrament_n of_o the_o new_a law_n institute_v by_o jesus_n christ_n for_o the_o salvation_n of_o mankind_n though_o all_o be_v not_o necessary_a for_o every_o man._n if_o the_o number_n of_o seven_o sacrament_n be_v not_o mention_v by_o the_o ancient_a father_n it_o be_v no_o wonder_n 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