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A43256 The touch-stone of the reformed gospel wherein the principal heads and tenents of the Protestant doctrine (objected against Catholicks) are briefly refuted. By the express texts of the Protestants own Bible, set forth and approved by the Church of England. With the ancient fathers judgements thereon, in confirmation of the Catholick doctrine. Heigham, John, fl. 1639.; Kellison, Matthew, attributed name. 1676 (1676) Wing H1370E; ESTC R216621 50,365 158

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be_v not_o give_v to_o all_o the_o faithful_a but_o to_o some_o only_o in_o particular_a yea_o he_o presuppose_v that_o one_o may_v have_v the_o gift_n even_o to_o work_v miracle_n and_o yet_o may_v want_v the_o gift_n true_o to_o interpret_v the_o word_n of_o god_n therefore_o a_o man_n by_o his_o own_o private_a spirit_n can_v right_o interpret_v scripture_n 2_o peter_n 1.20_o know_v this_o first_o that_o no_o prophecy_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v of_o any_o private_a interpretation_n for_o the_o prophecy_n come_v not_o in_o old_a time_n in_o the_o margin_n or_o at_o any_o time_n by_o the_o will_n of_o man_n ●ut_v holy_a man_n of_o god_n speak_v as_o they_o be_v move_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n see_v how_o clear_o the_o apostle_n take_v this_o faculty_n and_o authority_n from_o a_o private_a and_o profane_a man_n restrain_v the_o same_o to_o a_o company_n ●nd_a society_n of_o man_n and_o those_o also_o of_o ●ome_v special_a note_n for_o their_o sanctity_n ●nd_v holiness_n assure_v 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18._o ad_fw-la epictetum_fw-la s._n ba●●_n epist_n 78._o s._n amb_n epist_n 32._o s._n l●●_n epist_n 53._o s._n hier._n lib._n cont_n lucifer●_n nos_fw-la vincent_n lyr._n cont_n profane_v her●_n novitates_fw-la yea_o martin_n luther_n himself_o the_o protestant_n great_a grandfath_a say_v lib._n the_o potestate_fw-la papae_fw-la 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o certain_a of_o any_o private_a pers●●_n whether_o he_o have_v the_o revelation_n of_o the_o ●●ther_n or_o no_o but_o that_o the_o church_n have_v 〈◊〉_d we_o ought_v not_o to_o doubt_v they_o affirm_v vi_o that_o s_n peter_n faith_n have_v fail_v contrary_n to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n luke_n 22.31.32_o ●imon_n behold_v satan_n have_v desire_v to_o ●ave_n you_o that_o he_o may_v sift_v you_o as_o wheat_n ●ut_v i_o have_v pray_v for_o thou_o that_o thy_o ●aith_n fail_v not_o satan_n require_v to_o sift_v ●hem_fw-mi all_o the_o apostle_n but_o our_o lord_n ●ere_z pray_v for_o peter_n only_o that_o his_o ●aith_n 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faith_n n●_n chair_n have_v fail_v john_n 11_o 49_o 51._o speak_v of_o caip●_n the_o highpriest_n say_v and_o this_o he_o spa●●●_n not_o of_o himself_o but_o be_v high_a priest_n th●_n year_n he_o prophesy_v that_o jesus_n shall_v for_o that_o nation_n see_v how_o in_o this_o m●_n wicked_a time_n of_o the_o synagogue_n the_o ve●●_n dregs_o and_o outcast_a of_o that_o disobedie●_n people_n yet_o speak_v forth_o of_o that_o cha●●_n which_o christ_n have_v command_v to_o hear_v and_o obey_v touch_v matter_n faith_n answer_v true_o and_o their_o chief_a shop_n prophesy_v ¶_o so_o leo_n ser_n 3._o the_o assump_n sva_fw-la affirm_v the_o same_o the_o danger_n be_v common_a all_o the_o apostle_n but_o our_o lord_n take_v spe●●_n care_n of_o peter_n that_o the_o state_n of_o all_o the_o may_v be_v more_o sure_a if_o the_o head_n be_v vincible_a they_o affirm_v vii_o that_o the_o church_n can_v err_v and_o have_v err_v contrary_n to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n isai_n 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the_o church_n in_o her_o censure_n can_v er●_n isai_n 35.8_o and_o a_o high_a way_n shall_v 〈◊〉_d there_o and_o a_o way_n and_o it_o shall_v be_v call_v the_o way_n of_o holiness_n the_o unclean_a sha●●_n not_o press_v over_o it_o but_o it_o shall_v be_v for_o those_o the_o waifaring_a man_n though_o fool_n sha●●_n not_o err_v therein_o how_o far_o deceive_v then_o be_v many_o simple_a soul_n who_o do_v affirm_v that_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o a●_n holy_a man_n that_o ever_o have_v be_v there●●_n for_o these_o thousand_o year_n how_o wi●●_n soever_o have_v all_o err_v ephes_n 5.27_o that_o he_o may_v prese●●_n it_o to_o himself_o a_o glorious_a church_n n●_n have_v spot_n or_o wrinkle_n or_o any_o su●●_n thing_n but_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v holy_a a●_n without_o blemish_n note_v well_o these_o word_n without_o spot_n wrinkle_n or_o any_o blemish_n and_o tell_v i_o now_o if_o it_o be_v possible_a tha●_n read_v this_o thou_o can_v ever_o belieu●_v that_o she_o have_v ever_o 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one_o christian_n to_o another_o as_o s._n aug._n witness_v ep_v 31.34.35.36_o mat._n 23.17_o you_o fool_n and_o blind_a whether_o be_v great_a the_o gold_n or_o the_o temple_n that_o sanctifi_v the_o gold_n mat._n 23.19_o you_o fool_n and_o blind_a whether_o be_v great_a the_o gift_n or_o the_o altar_n that_o sanctifi_v the_o gift_n lo_o how_o plain_o our_o lord_n affirm_v in_o both_o these_o place_n that_o the_o temple_n sanctifi_v the_o gold_n and_o the_o altar_n the_o gift_n and_o general_o all_o creature_n sever_v from_o common_a and_o profane_a use_n to_o religion_n and_o worship_n of_o god_n be_v thereby_o make_v sacred_a and_o holy_a be_v not_o they_o therefore_o much_o to_o be_v blame_v who_o keep_v such_o a_o scoff_a at_o holy_a water_n holy_a ash_n and_o the_o like_a see_v more_o 2_o reg._n 2._o we_o 4.2_o where_o the_o prophet_n eliseus_n apply_v salt_n to_o the_o heal_n and_o purify_n of_o the_o water_n toby_z 6.8_o where_o the_o angel_n raphael_n use_v the_o liver_n of_o 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to_o pass_v that_o every_o one_o that_o be_v bite_v when_o he_o look_v upon_o it_o shall_v live_v hence_o be_v evident_o prove_v divers_a thing_n against_o our_o reformer_n 1._o that_o god_n command_v the_o make_n of_o this_o image_n 2._o the_o set_n of_o it_o up_o for_o a_o sign_n 3._o he_o promise_v that_o the_o looker_n thereon_o shall_v assure_o receive_v succour_n and_o help_v 4._o he_o warrant_v the_o make_n the_o set_n up_o the_o behold_v and_o the_o reverence_v thereof_o to_o be_v exempt_v from_o breach_n of_o the_o first_o commandment_n by_o work_v so_o many_o and_o so_o manifest_a miracle_n at_o and_o before_o the_o presence_n thereof_o therefore_o a_o image_n may_v be_v make_v may_v be_v set_v up_o may_v be_v look_v on_o and_o reverence_v as_o doctor_n saunders_n most_o learned_o conclude_v in_o his_o treatise_n of_o image_n ¶_o see_v father_n that_o affirm_v the_o same_o s._n amb._n serm_n 1._o in_o psal_n ●_o 18._o s._n aug._n lib._n 3._o de_fw-la trinit_fw-la s._n greg._n 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indeed_o be_v a_o common_a place_n from_o whence_o our_o adversary_n collect_v sundry_a false_a and_o sophistical_a argument_n to_o wit_n from_o the_o abuse_n of_o any_o good_a thing_n to_o destroy_v it_o utter_o together_o with_o the_o right_a use_n thereof_o but_o by_o the_o same_o argument_n they_o may_v as_o well_o collect_v that_o the_o sun_n and_o the_o moon_n shall_v be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o firmament_n because_o they_o be_v worship_v by_o the_o gentile_n for_o go_n likewise_o that_o the_o holy_a bible_n shall_v be_v burn_v because_o many_o a_o one_o draw_v damnable_a heresy_n forth_o of_o the_o same_o to_o his_o own_o perdition_n yea_o this_o silly_a argument_n borrow_v from_o the_o abuse_n of_o thing_n serve_v very_o fit_o to_o prove_v the_o quite_o contrary_a thus_o image_n have_v be_v sometime_o abuse_v therefore_o they_o be_v good_a in_o themselves_o for_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v evil_a by_o abuse_n only_o must_v needs_o be_v good_a be_v well_o use_v their_o 2._o 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