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A89845	A publike discovery, of the open blindness of Babels builders, and their confused language, who have been building without, till they deny faith, knowledge and the Gospel light within, the law of the new covenant, and matter of the new creature. Plainly laid open in an answer to a book intituled A publike discovery of a secret deceipt, subscribed John Deacon, in behalf of some who pretend a call to the ministry. Wherein their first queries their replyes; their answers to my queries, and their last queries is answered, and their whole work laid open, and the end thereof with queries sent back, by them to be answered, that their boasting spirit may be farther revealed, & its blindness. Here is also some of their confusions taken out of the heap, and set by themselves to be seen, how they will stand in the eye of truth, where but the least measure of God is known. / By an enemy to deceit, but a friend to the creation, called James Naylor.	Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.	1656 (1656)	Wing N305; Thomason E870_2; ESTC R204793	29,385	50

God 1 Thes 1. 1. Such onely are out of Babylon who are gathered out of the world by the spiritual light of Christ and there hath it been ever since his Passion and he hath never been without though but in a small number which he hath saved which the world hated and scornfully miscalled and into prisons and corners have they been driven all this time of the man of Sin and his Papal Priesthood but now he is come who is spreading his truth and multiplying his seed as a cloud to the Egyptians wherefore the Heathen rage exceedingly But it seems by thy Quere that thou ownest the Church all along since the Apostles to have been in the multitude of the Popish Priests rather then in the Martyrs seeing thou speakest so scornfully of a small number to be the Church of Christ who are so contemptible which the Church ever was and so it is at this day Luk. 12. 32. Mat. 7. 14. Mat. 20. 16. Reply answered In this you say you believe I speak truth and that I tell you here nothing but what you knew before and yet you murmure at it and cast your lyes upon it saying that we grant our selves to be none of Christs Church which who reads my answer may read what you have there to ground that lye on so though I speak what you know is truth and confess too yet it must not pass without lying and reproach but you shew your nature and for that you would go under the name of what they was that suffered I say the name will not cover you when you are as far from their nature as the sufferer from the persecuter and your Priests are Lords over us now as your fathers the Bishops was over them and whatever the dispensation is the persecuter is ever in the error though the sufferer bear the reproach and sufferings also and so it is now though the persecuter hath changed his name and form yet the same malice and work you are in Quer. 11. Whether you own the Resurrection of the body after death If not of what doth and shall Christs Kingdom consist for he can be no King without his Subjects Answ I say yea the Resurrection I own according to the Scriptures Reply answered In this you are not satisfied with a Scripture answer much less would you with mine and so puts it off with laying a slander on some namelesse man Quer. 12. Whether you acknowledge the Trinity of the Persons in the Godhead the Father the Son and the holy Ghost oue substance but three in subsistence or manner of beings Answ For the word Trinity thou mayst send it to Rome from whence it came but God the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost and that these three are one I know and acknowledge according to the Scriptures 1 Joh. 5. 7. Reply answered Your Reply to this is O subtile Deceiver c. And what is the fault because I will not own your word Trinity though I own the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost yet if I do not decline the Scripture phrase and take up the Romish I am a Deceiver and Etymologer and my pen stinks c. Well be it so such a Deceiver I shall be to own the Scripture and the sound words therein against all your Popish inventions And when you have thus railed against me because I will not own it then you accuse me for bringing it from Rome So that its a thing impossible to escape your tongues who are bent for mischief every way but it matters not seeing the reproach of the wicked is not onely safe but great riches Much more such smoak foames out at the pits mouth but not worth heeding such a Reply you may return to any Answer which is nought but bitterness and cursing and reviling so that you forget to speak to the Answer Quer. 13. Whether Jesus the Son of Mary incarnated in the flesh God-man in one person who died at Jerusalem upon the Cross rose from the death to life the third day and ascended on high into the highest heavens and sitteth on the right hand of God be the true Messiah as that you own and say is within you Answ Jesus the Son of God and Eternal Word which came down from God became flesh born of the Virgin God and Man who died at Jerusalem rose again ascended and sitteth at the right hand of the Father the true Messias which Christ we own to be within us which no carnal minde which denies his light can comprehend and Christ in you except ye be reprobates 1 Cor. 10. 4. Reply answered This you say is in some sort satisfactory but yet you say you have no faith to believe Christ within us I say I know you have not for did you believe Christ within there could not issue out all this mud and confusion uncondemned but though you cannot believe yet you can sl●nder that we are deluded but I look on it as the fruits of your unbeliefe and so pass it as not worth heeding being but a slander unproved Quer. 14. Whether the soul of man be mortal or immortal if mortal for what then did Christ Jesus suffer to purchase eternal glory and what profiteth holiness in life if immortal where then shall it abide after death since you say there is no heaven nor hell but in a mans conscience Answ The first part of this Quere I answer the soule is immortal but the latter part being made up of a lye I return it back into thy Fathers Bottle from whence it came till thou hast prov'd that ever I said there is no heaven nor hell but in a mans conscience Reply answered In this reply you call me Secret Deceipt and Lyar because I tell you of a lye you cast upon me in your Quere to wit that I say there is no heaven nor hell but in a mans conscience and because I will not bear it in silence but layes it open to be a lye therefore I am called Secret Deceipt for laying open your Secret Deceipt and now another must bear it who is not hear to answer for himselfe and so to excuse the lye you have discovered the backbiter who is shut out of the kingdom with the lyar And now Rich. Hubberthorn is named but you dare not say he ever said it least he should be neerer then you are aware to disprove you but least you should faile now you slander all our fraternity as you call it therewith which in truth is as much as to say no body for I am one but you clear me saying you cannot prove it against me so not all our fraternity so take the lye back til● you find a Father for it for with us it rests not Also take the other with it which sayes that it is usual with me to speak that in one breath which I will deny with another which when you prove I shall receive the lye till then let it rest upon the Founder For your scoffing

Gal. 1. 11 12. Reply answered In this I am called blind Sophister again and you say it would be absurd to imagine that any should preach the Gospel of Christ as from themselves though say you I dare presume to say you do so that though it be absurd so to say yet you dare presume to say it for your priviledge is to speak absurd things and to presume so to do yet not see your selves herein which did you mind the light you might see the blinde Sophister at home but this is not the first absurdity by many in your Book which you have presumed to cast upon me though you have not confessed to them all as to this Also this must not be without a lye more which is that I bring the means to testifie against it selfe but cannot instance wherein and when thou hast confessed that we preach the Gospel of Christ and saies you dare presume to say we do then say you but tell me hath that man any one spark of Grace or Truth in him that cannot see you are truthless So to preach the Gospel of Christ is a truthless thing amongst you and such blind stuff as this you cast out at random nor have I denied any means in my Answer that God is free to make use on as you would accuse for I have learned otherwise then to limit him to means or from means in what he hath not declared I am silent but this I say what means soever he uses the hireling is denied and they whose worship is not according to Scripture as your high-place worship is not neither in call maintenance nor manner of worship in any one particular And this I am ready to make appear when I shall be called thereto not withstanding ●●● the filthy venomous names you have called me in your replies which shews your inside and the fruits of your Ministrie and serve most for that end for me they touch not nor hath your Replies in the least shaken my answers though your unclean languaege have shewen your own foundation and confusion thereon builded Reply to the pretended Answers subscribed John Deacon unto fourteen Queries put forth by James Naylor Quere I. NOw seeing you so much oppose the light within and spirit and set up the Letter for the Light I say seeing it is plain all the Saints had a light in Spirit to guide them in wayes accepted in all ages before the Letter was if you be spiritual men give it in writing what that Light was where it was and how they came by it when they had no Letter or was it sufficient before the Letter is it the same now or when or how was it changed and the Letter set in its stead 1. Answer and Reply In the Answer to this Quere I am charged with a lye because I say you oppose the light within and spirit and sets up the Letter for the Light yet in the Answer your great work is to deny the Law written in the heart and place it now in the Letter and sayes the Gospel is not known by being within and sayes it is one of the most principal Controversies between us Christians and the Quakers and saies that which was once written in the heart and was sufficient is now become insufficient and now since the thing you have stated that the Controversie must be betwixt the Law that was received at mount Sinai which you call a lively Oracle and that which God hath written in the heart we will search the Scripture for whom it bears testimony and with whom they side in this controversie Jer. 31. God in ●es a promise of the new Covenant after they had broken that which you call a lively Oracle and saith God this shall be my Covenant I will make with the house of Israel I will put my Law in their inward parts and write it in their hearts and they shall teach no more every Man his Neighbour and every Man his Brother saying know the Lord for all shall know me from the least to the greatest And Paul Heb. 8. witnesseth the same words and sayes the first Covenant was faulty And in 2 Cor. 3. he calls that which was engraven in stones the ministration of death and said he he was not a Minister of it but of the spirit for said he the Letter killeth but the spirit giveth life and saith it is done away that is in the letter And David saith of a righteous man the Law of God is in his heart so that none of his steps shall slide Psal 37. 3● and Paul saith the Law of Spirit and life in Christ Jesus made me free from the Law of Sin and Death and this Law you say is become unsufficient and yet with the same shameless mouth am I accused for a lye saying you oppose the light within and set up the l●●ter behold your work and be ashamed you blind guides who know not the light in you your states you may read Eph. 4. 18 19. and this blind work you have in hand is suitable And further to manifest your blindness you say before that law their sins were no sins so by your doctrine it were no sin for Cain to kill his Brother and Sodom and the old world suffered without sin by your Doctrine and such dark muddy stuff as this you utter but leaves the Quere wholly unanswered Quer. 2. Reeing you say the Scripture is a Rule declare in plainness is the whole Scriptures a Rule to all men and women to take up the practise thereof or how much of it is and to how many people and to whom in particular seeing the Saints in all ages had their particular commands how may weak people know which of their commands they must take up and which they must not and when they have found the commands where they must have the power and whether that which gives the commands be not the power only accepted for performance deal plain herein that people may know what to do and what they have done that they be not always learning and never able to come to the end of their labours and rest of God 2. Answer and Reply In the Answer to this Quere after you have uttered a sort of frothy words you come to lay down an impudent lye saying private Saints had never particular and peculiar commands and ere you leave the Quere you contradict your lye your selves saying Noah had a particular command to build an Ark and John to Baptize and the Apostles to Preach c. But for Answer to the Quere which asks how people may know which of these commands they must follow you send us to Reverend Pens to seek but names not where and so steals away from it Que● 3. Seeing Christ preached the Kingdom of God within unbeleevers and the Apostle saith that which may be known of God is manifest in them and that they came to the knowledge of God and his glory by the light that shone

in their heart which God shewed them c. Deal plainly a●d let people know how it now comes to be without and denied within as it is by you Prove your practice and judgement herein by plain Scripture 3. Answer and Reply In this Answer you charge me with two lyes first concerning Christ preaching the Kingdom of God within unbelievers and to prove that a lye you change that Scripture Luk. 17 21. which saith the Kingdom of God is within you to among you The second lye you charge me with is because I said the Apostle said that they came to the knowledge of God and his Glory by that light that shone in their hearts To which I say it s no lye for none ever came to the knowledge of God otherwise but by that spiritual light and that the Apostle said so 2 Cor. 4. 6. may testifie and that Scripture Rom. 1. 19. which saith that which may be known of God is manifest in them for God hath shewed it to them this you say cannot be the spirit of God or Christ thus being stark blind you utter your lyes and confusions without sahme and would cast them upon others but how should you believe the Kingdom of God within who say faith and knowledge is not within Quer. 4. Whether that new birth spoken of in the Scriptures be Christ within or some other thing and if not he then what is it and how people may know it by the letter without the light when they have Christ and when they have a spirit of delusion and whether the light of the spirit alone be sufficient without the letter to reveal the Son of God the Father and all Truth and judge of all spirits what soever without any addition to it 4. Answer and Reply In this Answer you run a wild chase telling of Adam and Eden much the like things which you know naught of and then you tell of the matter whereof the New Man is made and you say the Mind and Will of Man is the Matter to which I say that 's like all the New Man you know so the second Adam is made of the Mind and Will of the first The Saints had Christ formed in them which was their new birth but is he formed of the Will of Man the new birth of the Saints is not of the Will of Man nor of the Will of the Flesh but of God but your birth is of the Will of Man and such like babling stuff not worth mentioning after you but leaves the Quere unanswered only addes a lye in the conclusion that our spirit opposes the commands in the Letter Quer. 5. Whether the least measure of saving faith in Christ Jesus be not present power above the Devil and all the powers of darkness which if it be then what is the cause that men must be captivated to commit sin while they live Whether it is want of faith or that there is not power in faith to overcome the evil one or hath any faith in Christ farther then they haue power over sin and the world or is there any rest to a believer short of that power 5. Answer and Reply In your Answer to this Quere your whole work is to plead for sin and that the greatest fulness cannot except from actual sin and in the conclusion you render it as a dangerous thing lest they should fight against Gods Counsel and Determination as though God had determined actual sin yet dare not deny the Quere but say the least measure of faith in Christ is sufficient to keep from the dominion of sin as though sin had not dominion where it is acted and such like confused stuff you utter lest any should believe freedom from sin and you lose your Kingdome Quer. 6. Seeing you say the Scriptures is the ground of faith and that they who can read the Scriptures have power to believe as you did the last first day then I say can any believe who have not read or heard the Scriptures if yea then is not their faith without ground by your opinion or is there more grounds of faith then one or is the Scriptures Christ 6. Answer and Reply In stead of answering this you call me a lyar for telling you the truth the time and place where and when you did affirm that whereof I told you in my Quere and hundreds may witness it for which I then withstood thee and thy companions among whom it was spoken Quer. 7. Seeing you affirm that none can be Ministers of Christ but who are called of Man and are learned men whether was the Apostle Paul a true Minister who saith he was neither of man nor by man and what he preached was not after man Nor was it but by revelation Gal. 1. 2 11 12. Or was Peter John and the rest true Ministers who were unlearned and ignorant men Act. 4. 13. and what lets that God may not chuse such now 6. Answer and Reply This is answered like the former by denying what thou and thy companions did affirm at the Mouth before many witnesses and if thou said some and another other some and all was as one was it not affirmed by you but it s no new thing to say in words what you will deny when you should prove in writing but be●ng called lyar by thee is little matter so many knowing I speak truth Farther thou sayest I oppose Christs commands and bely his Institutions in general wh●ch are but two lyes more to the number Another lye you tell of God saying you dare boldly assert that God never did nor never will use any extraordinarie meanes to destroy the ordinarie I say was not the brazen Serpent outward Circumcision and Carnal Ordinances ordinary means and did he not by the extraordinary means of his spirit destroy these and if it thus befal that which he had commanded when they committed Idolatry therewith then what shall become of your Idol-worship such as he never commanded now at his spiritual appearing though the Heathen had bespoiled of their Idols yet down you must and the event will declare it Quer. 8. What eye is that which the God of this world hath blinded how he hath blinded it and how it is opened and by what and whether the Letter can open it yea or no 8. Answer and Reply This you excuse saying you have not read any such thing I say its a hard lesson for the blinde to read but that eye was Christ and his Ministers sent to open of which you are blinde and cannot read Quer. 9. Whether the true Ministery of Christ be the same now for matter means and maintenance that it was in Apostles time or when was it changed into great Livings Tythes and set Maintenance and by whom and in what must it now differ from these 9. Answer and Reply In this you have excluded all the Parish Ministerie in the Nation in that you say the Ministerie of Christ is the same now for matter

to learn the first principle of Religion that cannot discern between the temporat expressive word of God and the co-essential and co-eternal word with God for so is Christ Answ That Christ is the onely word is plain in Scripture Joh. 1. Rev. 19. 13. But what are you who have more words then you can express by Scripture language and whose word is that that is temporal seeing the word of the Lord endures for ever 1 Pet. 1. 25. Quer. 10. Your tonth Quere wherein you would deny the sufficiency of the Law written in the heart doth sufficiently manifest your selves heart-blind who would deny the new Covenant to be sufficient Jer 31. 31 32 33 34. Heb. 8. 8 9 10 11. was the Law written in the heart sufficient in Davids time Psal 37. 31. and was it sufficient in the Apostles time Rom. 8. 2. and is it now become insufficient with you that therefore you would turn us back again to the Letter to be made perfect who have begun in the spirit But this is suitable to your knowledge and your faith which you deny to be within And whereas you ask wherefore the Law in the Letter was given I say not to give life but to drive into the Law in Spirit of which it was a figure which Law of the spirit giveth life Rom. 8. 2. Quer. 11. What be those first principles of the Oracles of God made mention of by Paul as needful for believers to know what the Oracles be whether the Scriptures or what else be the Oracles or the Principles how learnt and after what manner and by what means or if the Scripture be the Oracle of God why not the Word of God also and what difference between the Oracles and the word and wherein consistent and what those principles of the Doctrine of Christ be whether the same with those of the Oracles wherein different and wherein congruent and what the growing up into perfection is and when the end and whether in this life or in another Answ All this heap of Queres cannot let in the Serpent neither can he know the Oracle which is spiritual and the letter is not it You must first know the light of Christ in Spirit which is the first principle and faith to believe in it the thing which you deny within for so the Oracle and first principle is learnt and that 's the manner and means and the Word and Oracle of God is not at difference but in all things consistent and the light of Christ which is the first principle leads to them and so is one with them not different and therein is the growing to perfection which is not in your life whose faith and knowledge is without but in the life of another Quer. 12. What is the Kingdom of God that our Saviour speaks of Luk. 11. 21. and what that Kingdom Matth. 11. how did it suffer violence by whom and after what manner Answ The Kingdom of God is one whereinto none can enter who have no faith in them so read your selves shut out in your Answer to my twelfth Quere Neither can any know how the Kingdom of Heaven suffers violence but who is come thorow Johns Ministery which such as you are far off who say the light of Christ is not sufficient that lighteth every one that commeth into the world which John calls the true light and bare witness to that through him all might beleeve Which you whose faith is without resist So out of the Kingdom you are shut with the Pharisees though it be preached in you Quere 13. What is that Election what that Ordination what that Adoption and What that Drawing so often times spoken of in Scripture and who they be who are capable of it here and after what manner administred and make out your judgement herein plaine Scripture Answ That Election Ordination and Adoption is Christ and the Drawing is the Spirit of the Father which is administred in the light which draws to Christ the Election which none are capable of who deny the light to be sufficient and have no faith in them And this judgement is according to the Scriptures Quer. 14 15 16 17 18. Your 14 15 16 17 18 Queres are concerning your worship and you begin with a lye Saying you have proved Scriptures may be expounded which is yet to prove neither can you prove it as you use it by the practise of any Gospel-Minister And under this lye would you Usher in and Shelter your Doctrines Reasons Uses stinted times Tyths and Masterships Pulpit-Worship and literal Text preaching sprinkling of Infants and Sacraments as you call them which is eve●y particular as you perform them a thing besides the Saints practise Neither will the Scripture own you therein without wresting So that 's a lye which saies the Scriptures allows it For the Scripture allows no man to change any title of the manner of Gospel-worship much less them which have changed all Neither doth it allow any sort of people to set up a worship and then wrest the Scriptures to uphold it For then should we allow the Pope as well as all the Rabble of false Worshippers that are descended from him And whereas you ask are not these the Ministers which Rome would destroy which we cry down and were not the Martyrs of the same profession or wherein did they differ c. I say those Ministers which we cry down are such who had their rise from Rome however their Mother and they are faln out whose Kingdom stands most in contentions neither do we cry down 〈◊〉 who are come out from that Romish Worship and herein do those whom we cry down and the Martyrs differ in that the one were sufferers for conscience sake according to the measure of the light then made manifest and the other are persecuters of the heir now at his coming and opposers of his light in conscience whereby the Martyrs were led to suffer who suffered not for standing for Pulpits and Masterships and Tyths but for bearing witness against other of that trash both of the s●me rise and nature And such do justifie their murthers who are found persecuting for the rest of the reliques that are yet behind and so be witnesses against your selves that you are their Children who slew the Martyrs Quer. 19. And since you say I am damned c. Answ The foundation of this Quere is a lye and of the same it is builded And what thou asks concerning the ground of Faith I say it is Christ in the degrees of the several measures thereof and in the light they are known within the creature the effects whereof is truth peace and righteousness But the lyars who have no faith in them bring forth other effects as is seen in your book Quer. 20. Whether the power that worketh in you and in the rest of your quaking Fraternity be Divine or Diabollical If Divine prove it by Scripture Or may we not know the tree Antichrist by