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so_o much_o prove_v as_o impudent_o affirm_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v antichrist_n chap._n xviii_o the_o trifle_n of_o the_o smalcaldicall_a synod_n of_o the_o lutheran_n be_v confute_v chap._n xix_o caluins_n lie_n be_v refute_v chap._n xx._n the_o lie_v of_o illyricus_n be_v refute_v chap._n xxi_o the_o foolery_n of_o tylemanus_n be_v refute_v chap._n xxii_o the_o lie_v of_o chytraeus_n be_v refute_v chap._n xxiii_o the_o argument_n of_o caluin_n and_o illyricus_n be_v confute_v who_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v no_o long_o a_o bishop_n where_o also_o the_o fable_n of_o pope_n joane_n the_o woman_n be_v confute_v chap._n xxiiii_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n three_o book_n of_o the_o pope_n the_o first_o chapter_n wherein_o the_o disputation_n of_o antichrist_n be_v propound_v we_o have_v demonstrate_v hitherto_o say_v bellarmine_n that_o the_o pope_n succeed_v s._n peter_n in_o the_o chief_a princedom_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n it_o remain_v that_o we_o see_v whether_o at_o any_o time_n the_o pope_n have_v fall_v from_o this_o degree_n for_o that_o our_o adversary_n contend_v that_o he_o be_v not_o at_o this_o time_n a_o true_a bishop_n of_o rome_n whatsoever_o he_o be_v before_o and_o nilus_n in_o the_o end_n of_o his_o book_n against_o the_o primacy_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n speak_v thus_o but_o let_v that_o be_v the_o sum_n and_o head_n of_o my_o speech_n that_o while_o the_o pope_n keep_v in_o the_o church_n a_o convenient_a heavenly_a and_o of_o ancient_a time_n appoint_v order_n while_o he_o hold_v and_o defend_v the_o heavenly_a truth_n &_o while_o he_o cleave_v to_o christ_n the_o chief_a and_o true_a lord_n and_o head_n of_o the_o church_n i_o will_v easy_o suffer_v he_o to_o be_v both_o the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n &_o the_o chief_a priest_n &_o the_o successor_n of_o peter_n or_o else_o if_o he_o will_v of_o all_o the_o apostle_n that_o all_o obey_v he_o and_o that_o whatsoever_o belong_v to_o his_o honour_n be_v in_o nothing_o diminish_v but_o if_o he_o be_v depart_v from_o the_o truth_n &_o will_v not_o return_v to_o it_o he_o ought_v deserve_o to_o be_v account_v of_o as_o one_o that_o be_v condemn_v and_o reject_v but_o he_o shall_v have_v show_v into_o what_o error_n the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v fall_v and_o when_o and_o by_o who_o they_o be_v condemn_v for_o we_o know_v that_o in_o the_o general_n lateran_n council_n under_o innocentius_n the_o three_o and_o of_o lion_n under_o gregory_n the_o ten_o and_o of_o florence_n under_o eugenius_n the_o four_o the_o greek_n be_v convict_v of_o error_n return_v to_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o latin_n and_o afterward_o always_o return_v to_o their_o vomit_n again_o and_o be_v therefore_o most_o grievous_o punish_v by_o god_n but_o we_o never_o read_v that_o the_o latin_n come_v to_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o greek_n neither_o can_v there_o any_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n be_v produce_v against_o the_o latin_n as_o we_o bring_v many_o against_o the_o 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