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gather_v both_o good_a and_o bad_a 47._o mat._n 13._o 47._o fish_n all_o truth_n say_v the_o bishop_n wheresoever_o it_o be_v find_v be_v god_n as_o the_o king_n coin_n be_v currant_n though_o it_o be_v find_v in_o any_o impure_a channel_n m._n burton_n true_o but_o when_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n be_v turn_v into_o 36._o pag._n 36._o a_o lie_n and_o this_o lie_v put_v for_o god_n truth_n than_o the_o case_n be_v alter_v here_o be_v a_o nimble_a conversion_n but_o if_o all_o man_n and_o devil_n shall_v turn_v alchemisst_n be_v it_o possible_a for_o they_o to_o metamorphose_v god_n truth_n into_o a_o lie_n st._n paul_n speak_v of_o the_o gentile_n how_o they_o abuse_v that_o light_n of_o reason_n wherewithal_o god_n enlighten_v every_o one_o that_o come_v into_o the_o world_n and_o become_v vain_a in_o their_o imagination_n say_v of_o they_o that_o they_o change_v 25._o rom._n 1._o 25._o the_o truth_n of_o god_n into_o a_o lie_n which_o be_v but_o a_o change_n neither_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d not_o a_o simple_a conversion_n thus_o m._n burton_n unless_o you_o may_v have_v leave_n to_o wrest_v scripture_n your_o answer_n be_v nothing_o if_o any_o man_n obtrude_v adulterate_a money_n of_o his_o own_o stamp_v 30_o if_o a_o man_n take_v the_o king_n coin_n and_o beaâe_v it_o into_o a_o thin_a lease_n &_o cat_n pag._n 30_o in_o the_o king_n name_n let_v he_o suffer_v as_o a_o malefactor_n but_o when_o the_o king_n currant_n coin_n be_v proffer_v let_v no_o maâ_n reject_v it_o as_o base_a and_o vicious_a lest_o hâ_n himself_o be_v impeach_v for_o a_o traitor_n where_o by_o the_o way_n note_v that_o yoâ_n have_v already_o contradict_v your_o selâe_n even_o now_o all_o be_v chaff_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n now_o god_n truth_n be_v there_o how_o else_o can_v it_o be_v pretend_v how_o else_o can_v they_o colour_v over_o lie_v with_o it_o the_o reverend_a bishop_n proceed_v fundamental_a truth_n be_v like_o the_o maroâean_a wine_n which_o if_o it_o be_v mix_v 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touch_v those_o main_a part_n of_o christian_n truth_n wherein_o they_o constant_o still_o persist_v we_o glad_o acknowledge_v they_o to_o be_v the_o family_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o our_o hearty_a prayer_n unto_o almighty_a god_n be_v etc._n etc._n your_o distinction_n therefore_o of_o the_o devil_n in_o his_o essence_n and_o as_o a_o devil_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o that_o stamp_n you_o be_v best_o lay_v up_o till_o a_o dear_a year_n chap._n vi_o of_o the_o charitable_a profession_n of_o zealous_a luther_n at_o length_n we_o be_v come_v to_o consider_v the_o weight_n of_o zealous_a luther_n speech_n we_o confess_v that_o under_o the_o papacy_n be_v much_o good_a nay_o all_o yea_o the_o very_a kernel_n of_o christianity_n to_o this_o m._n burton_n answer_v that_o be_v speak_v this_o 45._o pag._n 45._o before_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n be_v hatch_v and_o die_v when_o they_o begin_v to_o be_v assemble_v it_o be_v well_o he_o do_v so_o for_o have_v he_o live_v but_o a_o while_n 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luther_n think_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n wicked_a enough_o when_o he_o affimr_v âhat_n gen._n âhat_n âtiam_fw-la si_fw-la nâhil_fw-la praetârâa_fw-la peâcatum_fw-la fuisset_fw-la in_o doctrina_fw-la pontificia_fw-la quà m_fw-la quód_fw-la docuerunt_fw-la nos_fw-la debâre_fw-la vagaâi_fw-la &_o fluctuare_fw-la amâââente_fw-la &_o duâios_fw-la de_fw-la remissione_n peccatorum_fw-la gratid_v &_o salute_v noâtra_fw-la iustas_fw-la tamen_fw-la haberemus_fw-la causas_fw-la cur_n ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la infideli_fw-la nâs_o seâungâremus_fw-la luth_n ad_fw-la cap._n 41._o gen._n if_o they_o can_v not_o have_v be_v blame_v âor_a any_o thing_n else_o but_o only_o for_o teach_v âhat_n we_o must_v waver_v and_o doubt_v and_o always_o remain_v uncertain_a of_o the_o reâission_n of_o our_o sin_n of_o grace_n and_o salvation_n yet_o shall_v we_o have_v just_a cause_n to_o separate_v from_o that_o infidelious_a church_n thâ_n ground_n therefore_o of_o luther_n speecâ_n be_v not_o that_o he_o see_v not_o erroâ_n enough_o but_o that_o he_o know_v there_o wâ_n likewise_o all_o truth_n under_o it_o indeed_o as_o our_o divine_a bishop_n observe_v oppress_v overwhelm_v yet_o there_o iâ_n be_v the_o council_n of_o trent_n haâ_n join_v tradition_n to_o the_o scriptureâ_n make_v they_o together_o the_o rule_n â_o faith_n but_o before_o that_o time_n luthâ_n complain_v that_o he_o can_v not_o haâ_n audience_n out_o of_o the_o scripture_n bâ_n the_o frigid_a decree_n of_o pope_n and_o thâ_n foolery_n of_o schoolman_n be_v obtrude_v in_o stead_n thereof_o in_o a_o word_n nothing_o be_v decree_v in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n which_o luther_n have_v nâ_n gainsaid_a before_o that_o time_n so_o thâ_n the_o error_n be_v the_o same_o they_o be_v but_o establish_v under_o a_o more_o peremptory_a form_n chap._n vii_o of_o the_o dean_n of_o glocesters_n authority_n but_o here_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o reverend_a dean_n of_o gloucester_n be_v feild_n dr._n feild_n allege_v in_o his_o treatise_n of_o the_o church_n lib._n 3._o cap._n 47._o and_o it_o be_v desire_v that_o he_o may_v take_v up_o the_o matter_n 45._o 7_o vial_n pa._n 45._o peace_n be_v amiable_a and_o the_o mediation_n of_o wise_a man_n be_v to_o we_o very_o acceptable_a the_o person_n be_v reverend_a neither_o will_v we_o dissent_v from_o he_o in_o any_o thing_n without_o due_a respect_n have_v to_o his_o place_n and_o learning_n but_o wherefore_o when_o you_o be_v urge_v with_o a_o cloud_n of_o witness_n in_o this_o very_a cause_n do_v you_o 51._o 7._o vial_n pa._n 51._o reject_v they_o as_o private_a person_n who_o opinion_n must_v not_o prescribe_v against_o truth_n caluin_n bucer_n beza_n melanchton_n apology_n see_v the_o reverend_a bishop_n apology_n mornay_n deering_n junius_n raynolds_n param_fw-la hooker_n perkins_n etc._n etc._n all_o these_o you_o sleight_v and_o will_v have_v we_o be_v try_v by_o one_o only_a who_o indeed_o be_v reverend_a but_o all_o these_o much_o more_o yet_o as_o if_o 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