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do_v &_o glorify_v god_n by_o their_o repentance_n march_n 14._o 1608._o rich._n clifton_n john_n smyth_n in_o the_o next_o place_n you_o make_v answer_v to_o my_o last_o argument_n which_o may_v be_v frame_v into_o this_o form_n as_o the_o false_a church_n &_o ministry_n be_v reject_v &_o the_o contrary_a true_a church_n &_o ministry_n assume_v so_o the_o false_a worship_n &_o so_o by_o consequent_a the_o false_a baptism_n must_v be_v renounce_v &_o the_o true_a baptism_n assume_v verum_fw-la primum_fw-la ergo_fw-la secundum_fw-la the_o sum_n of_o your_o answer_n be_v that_o we_o must_v renounce_v indeed_o the_o false_a church_n ministry_n &_o worship_n &_o yet_o may_v retain_v the_o baptism_n receive_v in_o the_o false_a church_n which_o you_o say_v be_v true_a in_o author_n matter_n form_n &_o end_n though_o corrupt_a in_o circumstance_n as_o oil_v cross_v breathe_a etc._n etc._n repent_v of_o those_o coruption_n &_o not_o cast_v away_o the_o true_a substance_n with_o the_o 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our_o comfort_n be_v diminish_v in_o respect_n of_o our_o infant_n which_o they_o have_v in_o respect_n of_o they_o &_o the_o gospel_n be_v not_o preach_v to_o our_o infant_n as_o it_o be_v to_o they_o i_o answer_v that_o god_n bounty_n our_o comfort_n in_o respect_n of_o our_o infant_n &_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o glad_a tiding_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v as_o large_a &_o ample_a every_o way_n to_o our_o infant_n as_o to_o they_o for_o god_n bounty_n of_o the_o actual_a exhibit_v and_o feeling_n the_o everlasting_a covenant_n to_o abraham_n &_o all_o his_o carnal_a infant_n be_v never_o extant_a in_o the_o old_a testament_n neither_o be_v the_o parent_n in_o circumcise_n their_o infant_n comfort_v in_o the_o assure_a confer_v of_o it_o upon_o their_o infant_n &_o circumcision_n do_v not_o so_o plain_o preach_v christ_n then_o as_o he_o be_v preach_v now_o to_o infant_n but_o what_o can_v the_o preach_n of_o christ_n profit_n infant_n either_o then_o in_o type_n or_o now_o in_o truth_n 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&_o at_o my_o ãâã_d &_o at_o the_o who_o earth_n that_o we_o shall_v not_o see_v so_o evident_a a_o truth_n all_o this_o tyme._n the_o second_o particular_a you_o bring_v in_o answer_n to_o my_o reason_n be_v a_o distinction_n of_o the_o respect_n of_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o faithful_a for_o you_o say_v as_o they_o be_v bear_v of_o their_o parent_n they_o be_v carnal_a &_o sinful_a psal_n 51.5_o as_o they_o be_v under_o the_o covenant_n they_o be_v spiritual_a gen._n 17.7_o &_o be_v call_v holy_a 1_o cor._n 7.14_o &_o so_o be_v not_o the_o carnal_a seed_n &_o so_o they_o may_v be_v baptize_v aswell_o as_o the_o jew_n infant_n be_v circumcise_v though_o some_o of_o they_o prove_v wicked_a afterward_o as_o ishmael_n &_o esaw_n etc._n etc._n i_o answer_v first_o your_o distinction_n be_v without_o warrant_n of_o scripture_n &_o i_o deny_v that_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v to_o be_v consider_v in_o these_o two_o respect_n &_o whereas_o you_o bring_v two_o place_n gen._n 17.7_o 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