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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A17371	Maschil, or, A treatise to giue instruction touching the state of the Church of Rome since the Councell of Trent, whether shee be yet a true Christian church. And if she have denied the foundation of our faith. For the vindication of the right reuerend father in God, the L. Bishop of Exeter, from the cavills of H.B. in his book intituled The seven vialls. By Robert Butterfield Master of Arts, and minister of Gods Word.	Butterfield, Robert.	1629 (1629)	STC 4205; ESTC S120372	51,626	162

this ●endeth Those irreproueable la●ours which the present age admireth and posteritie shall rather ●nuie than equall That admirable facultie wherewithall the Author of ●uerie good gift hath blessed our most heauenly Prelate aboue all the ●onnes of men all is blowne away with a puffe as if it were nothing but froth and to what end but to eleuate his authorite and by bringing his ●erson into dis-esteeme to eneruate ●is writings This is the artifice wherwithall some men at once doe thrust out others and worke themselues into the estimation of the common people But if Wit and Rhetorick be banished what shall succeed in the stead thereof why sound reason and substantiall demonstration Bu● are these incompatible or is it no● Rhetorique argumentatiue as well ● Logick did not Zeno compare Logi● to the fist and Rhetorique to the ope● hand the one a more strict the other indeed a more apert way ● reasoning and by so much doth Rhetorique the Queene of humane an● excell Logicke by how much th● open hand is a more elegant form than the shut Hee was some bod● ●a●rentius 〈◊〉 that thought hee could conuin● of error most of the Philosopher● for that they wanted Elegancie ● speech Ac mea quidem sententia sai● Pra●at ad lib. 4. 〈◊〉 he si quis ad scribendum in Thedogia accedat parui refort an aliqua● aliam facultatem affer at an non ni●● enim fere catera conferunt at qui ignarus cloquentiae est hunc indignum ●rorsus qui de Theologia loquatur existimo et certè sols eloquentes columnae Ecclesiae sunt etiam vt ab Apostolis vsque repetas inter quos mihi Paulus nulla alia re eminere quam eloquentia videtur In my opinion if a man come to write in Diuinitie it greatly mattereth not whether hee bring any other facultie or no but if hee bee not Eloquent ●aur Valla. ib. 〈…〉 a●ter loqu● 〈◊〉 cogitationes suas lite●i● mandat in Theologia praesertim ●mpudentissimus est siid con●●●●● sacere se art insamsamus quanquam 〈◊〉 est qui nol●te leganter facunde dicere quod cum 〈◊〉 non contin●i● videri volun● vt sunt p●rue●●● n●l●● aut 〈…〉 debere sic 〈◊〉 he is vnworthy to speake thereof for they are Eloquent men which are the pillars of the Church if wee looke backe to the verie Apostles amongst whom St. Paul excelleth in Eloquence And againe To presume to write Diuinitie without eloquence is impudencie and if it be purposely done madnesse although there is no man but would expresse his conceipts in clegancie of speech which because some cannot attain vnto they pretend such is their peruersenesse that they will not or indeed that they ought not so to speake Let vs then see what discourse that is which hath in it neither finenesse nor wit nor Rhetorique But you will say wee shal● haue sound reason and demonstratiue proofe in steed thereof So we hear● tell But I assure thee Reader if thou weigh it iudiciously thou wil● finde but a little wooll for this grea● cry and as the Prouerb saith Pro thesauro carbones in stead ●● treasure coales and some of them so hot that they burne our fingers i● we touch them CHAP. III. Mr. Burtons Argument answered touching the Markes of a true CHVRCH TO come to the disputation i● selfe I finde but onely one passage which is like an Argument for the rest that wee may see how good ●n Orator he is in causa Iudicia●● hee amplifies before hee proues and to shew vs his skill in Logicke he proues that which is granted him inueighing against the impieties of the Church of Rome wherein so long as he speakes the words of sober●esse and truth no man will bee his Aduersarie and shewing how iniurious their Doctrines are to the Foundation of our Faith by consequent ouerthrowing it which is nothing to the purpose His onely Argument which hee produceth is del●uered in this forme A true visible 7. Vialls p. 34. Church hath the true Markes of a true Visible Church namely pure and sound Doctrine and the Sacraments administred according to Christ his holy institution but these Markes are not to bee found vpon the Church of Rome therefore shee is no true Church This Argument he professeth to take Ibid. from the Doctrine of the Church of England if the Homilies containe any part thereof If Mr. Burton doe doubt of that wee can succour him with the nineteenth Article of Religion the vnquestionable doctrine of our Church where the same words are For answer whereunto we professe that wee esteeme these tokens such genuine Markes of the true Church of God that the more apparant they are in her the more glorious shee is in his sight and the more perfect in respect of her selfe And herewithall wee iustly defend ou●selues against the whole Antichristian Band that so long as wee haue that Doctrine which Christ and hi● Apostles deliuered vnto his Church purely taught amongst vs and the holy Sacraments rightly administred it is not the want of their vnwritten rotten traditions vnwritten truthes vntrue writings which can take away from vs the Appellation of a true Church Yet we know that these markes are not so essentiall to the true Church that so soone as vnsound Doctrine is mingled with the truth of Gods Word and the Sacraments vnduely administred that which was a Church should cease to bee one The Children of Israel did abide many dayes without a Sacrifice and Ephod c. yet then Hos 3. 4. did not God cease to bee their God nor they to bee his Church The Perkins Cases of Conscience Booke 2. Chap. c. quest 1. Sacrament of Baptisme saith one of note in the lawfull vse thereof is a note whereby the true Church of God is d●scerned and distinguished from the false Church not that the Church of God cannot bee a Church without the Sacrament for it may want Baptisme for a time and yet remaine a true Church as well as the Church of the Iewes in ancient times wanted Circumcision for the space of forty yeares Iosh 5. 6. and yet ceased not to bee a true Church and loued of God Thus he Besides wee are giuen to vnderstand See Rogers on the nineteenth Article prop. 8 by the authorized Commentary vpon the Confession of our Church that although the Church of England make these the Markes of the Visible Church yet doth she not so strictly tye the Church to the signes articulate as if all were excluded the Church which doe not rightly participate of the Word and Sacraments for it may fall out that they may bee corrupted as in the times of blindenesse and superstition or intermitted as in persecution Thus this Argument alledged concludes affirmatiuely Wheresoeuer Gods Word is purely preached and the Sacraments duely administred there is a true Church but not negatiuely Wheresoeuer these are not found in such sort as were to be desired there is no

will destroy much poyson Many drinke of the Cup in the hand of the Mother of Fornications though some take deeper draughts than others to some of them which take downe● withall some reasonable portion o● Fundamentall truth by the mercy of God it may be an Antidote to expell the poyson from their hearts and striue so long with it till it qu●●● ouercome it that so that may bee fulfilled which our Lord promise● as a signe to follow those that beleeued on his Name That thoug● Mark ●6 18. they should drinke any deadly thi●● it should not hurt them Now yo● Comparison of extracting the spirit● i●id pa. 37. of Fundamentall truth through 〈◊〉 Popes Limbecke till nothing bee 〈◊〉 but a dead Vappa is very vnapt Fo● they that distill reserue that pure substance which they extract for the● vse casting away that which remaineth as vnprofitable So that by thi● Popery should refine not pollute t●● truth of God Thus vnhappy a●● you in your similitudes all along But good God what spirit possesseth this man that hee thus chaset● our Diuine and harmelesse Bishop who doth not so much argue for truth as beautifie and adorne it We all know that similitudes are brought to illustrate that which is already proued or taken for granted in the iudgement of the wisest no man vseth them as Arguments Our Reuerend Prelate intended not a disputation or if any not against any but the Romish Church How commeth it to passe that while hee forcibly bends himselfe against them he is by mis-construction made to plead for them and all his louely similitudes set vpon the racke as if they nourished some vnheard off monster When hee perceiued that vpon the first Edition of his Booke some as hee well hoped through ignorance rather ●han obstinacy were offended hee straight way addresseth himselfe to relieue those whom hee had no way harmed rectifying their iudgements that will yeelde to instruction and by a iudicious Apologie fully satisfying the truth and all that are impartiall louers thereof here hee speaketh home to the matter and leaueth no scruple vnresolued In this Mr. Burton can bee content to gleane taking vp now and then a sentence yet propounding more than he answers but for the former discourse hee lets not a tittle thereof fall to the ground vnsifted answering twenty lines with twenty pages But could neither his grauity his place nor his well-deseruings of the Church preuaile for him but he must needes come vnder the ferule or hath hee onely faulted in this kinde Surely no but furious persons strike them that come first in their way But what superstition doth your Limbecke extract out of the Similitude p●● 38. taken from Papinians ruled case That a sacred place loseth not the holinesse with the demolished walls Doth the Reuerend Bishop intend any thing but this That whatsoeuer is once dedicated to God ought not for euer to bee alienated it still in despite of malice and profanenesse remaineth his to whom it was intitled What haue wee then now to doe with beliuesse infused or affixed by any solemne act of consecration and for edifying the Faith of Christians he hath oftentimes like a true Scribe instructed for the Kingdome of Heauen brought out of his treasures both old and new Prouision for that purpose and is not yet drawne dry Comparisons as all other parts of learning he knoweth how to vse in their due place rather to helpe the vnderstanding than to beget Faith CHAP. V. Whether the diuorce bee sued out on Gods part or on the Church of Romes part THe Bishop goeth on If the Church of Rome were once the Spouse of ●hrist and her Adulteries are knowne yet the diuorce is not sued out that is Though she haue rebelled against God and on her part broken his Couenant yet hee hath not quite reiected her as yet Against this Mr. Bu●ton takes in hand to proue pa. 3● that on both parts this diuorce is formally sued out On her part because pa. 40. 41. c. faith he shee hath in the face of Men and Angels openly plainely expresly denyed Christ for her Husband For proofe whereof wee haue a Bull of Pope Pius 4. produced at large and from thence hee is not ashamed to affirme that Christ is therein as solemnly pa. 42. renounced as wee in our Baptisme renounce the Diuell and all his workes when there is not so much as one word or syllable of renouncing Christ there mentioned But this will come more fitly to bee examined anon when wee enquire how Christ is denyed in the Councell of Trent In the meane time let vs enquire how on Christs part the ●iuorce is sued out And that is in the Book of the Reuelation where she is called the Whoore and Come out of her my People pa. 43. c. Whence it is inferred If she bee Babylon If she be the Whoore shee is no longer Christs Spowse Answ Not onely of Israel but of Iudah was it said that the faithfull Esay 1. City was become a Harlot And God by his Prophets expostulates with them calling them a generation of Miscreants Witches children the seede of the Adulterer and the Whoore yet it cannot bee denied Esay 57. 3. but the Sheepe of his Visible flocke they continued euen in the depth of their disobedience and rebellion Now if it seeme strange to any that the Church of God while she playeth the Whoore should still be his Wife let them know that the Visible Church is but equiuocally called the Spowse of Christ For properly the Church Inuisible the Mysticall body of Christ is onely his true Spowse and shee is a pure Virgin without spot or wrinkle beeing washed in the blood of the Lamb. Those that outwardly professing Christ make vp the Visible Church we charitably presume to be members of his mysticall bodie for which cause wee call them his Spouse also But when wee speake of Babylon and the Whore in the Reuelation and apply it to Rome wee denie absolutely that the Church of Rome is Babylon that is all those which liuing in that Religion make vp one If thereby wee vnderstand a companie of m●n but if Baby●on bee a ●lace then we must vndersta●d thereby the ●●● of Antichrist Bodie or Societie but * Bablyon is a faction in that Church Are not the Whore and Antichrist the same Now what can be more absurd than to thinke the whole Church of Rome The Antichrist Antichrist was to seduce those that dwell vpon the face of the earth the Whore was to bewitch the nations now the Seducer and the Seduced the witch and the bewitched are not one As I take it we are to reioice at the downefall of the Whore but God forbid that wee should reioice at the Destruction of euery member of the Church of Rome but rather with teares beseech God for their conuersion And therefore good M. Burton now the learned Bishops distinction takes not place