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censure_n which_o be_v ratify_v in_o heaven_n the_o same_o answer_n will_v serve_v to_o this_o also_o for_o first_o the_o brethren_n alone_o without_o elder_n say_v you_o may_v censure_v and_o if_o right_o do_v it_o be_v indispensable_a not_o to_o be_v reverse_v by_o any_o power_n on_o earth_n because_o ratify_v in_o heaven_n ergo_fw-la they_o be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o all_o church-power_n needful_a within_o themselves_o 2._o and_o that_o the_o rather_o if_o they_o can_v ordain_v elder_n too_o for_o then_o the_o elder_n derive_v their_o power_n from_o they_o 3._o but_o suppose_v which_o be_v possible_a enough_o the_o brethren_n and_o elder_n err_v in_o their_o censure_n of_o a_o member_n be_v not_o the_o censure_n then_o reversible_a i_o ask_v by_o who_o if_o all_o power_n needful_a for_o themselves_o be_v within_o themselves_o what_o shall_v the_o wrong_a party_n do_v be_v he_o remediles_o miserable_a if_o it_o be_v dispensable_a and_o reversible_a it_o must_v be_v by_o some_o 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