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A62918 A defence of Mr. M. H's brief enquiry into the nature of schism and the vindication of it with reflections upon a pamphlet called The review, &c. : and a brief historical account of nonconformity from the Reformation to this present time. Tong, William, 1662-1727. 1693 (1693) Wing T1874; ESTC R22341 189,699 204

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bequeath_v unto_o the_o world_n it_o be_v too_o evident_a to_o be_v conceal_v that_o epiphanius_n though_o otherwise_o a_o worthy_a and_o good_a man_n be_v of_o a_o hot_a and_o eager_a temper_n rash_a in_o his_o censure_n and_o sometime_o transport_v into_o great_a irregularity_n of_o practice_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o disturbance_n he_o make_v at_o constantinople_n 12._o socrates_n c._n 11_o 12._o and_o the_o rude_a language_n he_o give_v to_o chrysostom_n because_o he_o do_v not_o at_o his_o command_n banish_v dioscorus_n and_o condemn_v the_o book_n of_o origen_n the_o learned_a author_n of_o the_o summary_n of_o the_o controversy_n between_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n give_v we_o a_o instance_n of_o the_o rash_a and_o injudicious_a zeal_n of_o epiphanius_n in_o condemn_v aerius_n for_o heresy_n in_o another_o point_n which_o will_v very_o much_o depreciate_v the_o authority_n of_o that_o father_n in_o judge_v of_o heresy_n 64._o summary_n of_o 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haeres_fw-la 75._o p._n 905._o all_o ecclesiastical_a office_n may_v be_v perform_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d after_o the_o father_n we_o have_v suffrage_n of_o the_o canonist_n gratian_n cap._n 24._o legimus_fw-la do_v 39_o cap._n 5._o olim_fw-la do_v 95._o cap._n 4._o nullus_fw-la do_v 60._o cap._n 16._o ecce_fw-la do_v 95._o lancel_v l._n 1._o tit._n 21._o p._n 32._o 7._o auth._n glossae_fw-la in_o cap._n do_v council_n basil_n duaren_n the_o sacr_n eccl._n min._n l._n 1._o c._n 7._o and_o it_o be_v thus_o enroll_v in_o the_o canon_n law_n be_v public_o teach_v by_o the_o schoolman_n and_o other_o as_o lombard_n lib._n 4._o sentent_fw-fr do_v 24._o litera_fw-la i._n but_o at_o length_n the_o roman_a church_n see_v it_o necessary_a for_o the_o better_a settle_v of_o the_o papacy_n to_o advance_v the_o order_n of_o episcopacy_n above_o presbytery_n and_o in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n they_o have_v decree_v sess_n 23._o cap._n 4._o can._n 6_o 7._o 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