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A43234 The spirit of the Quakers tried, according to that discovery it hath made of it self in their great prophet and patriarch, George Fox, in his book titled, The great mystery of the great whore, &c. in an epistle to the said Quakers, but especially to the honest hearted amongst them ... : also, the judgment and sentence is pronounced by George Fox himself against himself and party in the persons of his adversaries / by a lover of truth and men. Hedworth, Henry. 1672 (1672) Wing H1352; ESTC R6264 33,758 47

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tell me what is It is now saith Daille of the right use of the Fathers the space of some Ages past since the Eastern Church accused the Western of having added Pilióque and the Son in the Article of the Nicene Creed touching the procession of the Holy Ghost But the Pope and his Council were never so impudent as to make that addition to the Scripture as G. Fox hath done See how upon occasion of an Inference not asserting it to be the words of Scripture G. Whitehead pronounceth the curse upon his Adversary John Newman Christ ascended c. p. 21 22. J. N. from Rev. 1.7 Those that pierced him in his body of flesh shall see that body visibly come again G. W.'s Answ These are not the words of Scripture but added although to add or diminish be forbidden under a penalty Rev. 22.18 19. Yet this mans presumption leads him to incur that What would G. W. have said to him if he had done a G. Fox has done Well! there is a righteous God that judgeth the heart and tryeth the reins and is no respecter of persons It 's true he doth not quote the Ch. and verse but more to blame he for if he had we could soon have seen his forgery whereas now perhaps not one of a Thousand that has read his Book has discovere it Or if he can tell us where those words of his are to be found in Scripture he shall escape the Curse for addition to it till then it lies upon him 22. The 22 th instance of his negligence and fallibility in quoting Scripture may be that place p. 71. of his Book where he saith and Paul declares himself take Paul's own words not of Man nor by man but by the will of God now this citation might have passed currant for Scripture though it 's no where found in this form for all I know but that he so confidently calls them Paul's own words which is false if they be not found together and not only apart 23. The 23 th this p. 68. speaking of the Churches or Temples wherein God is worshipped by some saith he Is God worshipped in Temples made with hands Is not be worshipped in the spirit and in the truth the different letter wherein he puts it intimates that he would have us take it for Scripture and there are some words like his in Joh. 4. and Acts 17. but in neither of those places are either the same words or the same sence but it 's sufficient against him that there are not the same words 24. The 24 th Scripture perverted is Joh. 7.38 He that believeth on me saith Christ as the Scripture hath said out of his belly shalt flow rivers of living water where his belly is plainly spoken of him that believeth but G. Fox applies it to the light Christ saying p. 130. and believing in the light Christ out of whose belly flowed rivers of living mater The light the light must be magnified by G. F. and the Scripture must be wrested to that purpose come on it what will 25. The 25 th instance of his fallibility or deceitfulness in the use of Scripture is taken from p. 27. where he makes the Priest say A true Church is guilty of Injury G. F. Answ Contrary to the Scriptures where the Apostle saith the Church is the pillar ground of truth without spot or wrinkle or blemish or any such thing The Apostle saith indeed Eph. 5.25 27 Christ also loved the Church and gave himself for it that he might present it to himself a glorious Church not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing He saith That it might and should not that it is as our G. reperesents it 26. So he abuseth us with a defective quotation of the 30 th verse of the same Eph. 5. which he has both in the 11. and 12 th pages in the same manner as in divers other places The 11 p. thus Priest They are no Christians that doth not hold Christ absent from his Church but Antichrists By the way I believe he wrongs his Adversaries in making them speak bad English Answ Which is contrary to the Scriptures which say they are flesh of his flesh and bone of his bone and they are as nigh together as husband and wife But the Apostle thus For we are members of his body of his flesh and of his bones If he had not left out the former clause we are members of his body the latter clause which he takes would not so well have served his purpose and also have been more easily understood for we know it 's ordinary for a member of a Body or for the head it self of a Body which is an assembly as the word Ecclesia here rendered Church signifies to be in one Countrey when the Body or Society is at a far distance in another But this was not so discoverable in the Allegory of flesh and bones alone 27. The 27 th place shall show that our Author's memofulness or negligence as fallible rather more fallible than that of other men which is a great reflection upon his infallible spirit Thus p. 152. he saith And the Apostle said the deep things of God was revealed by the spirit of God It 's a small matter with him to make the Apostle speak bad English But the Apostle speaketh neither so nor so but God hath revealed them unto us by his spirit for the spirit searcheth all things yea the deep things of God 1 Cor. 2.10 And v. 11. the Apostle saith But the natural man receiveth not the things of the spirit of God but G. Fox thus p. 39. The natural man receiveth not the things that be of God he leaves out spirit though for ought he knows there may be a vast difference between the things of God and the things of the spirit of God as there is a vast difference between blasphemy against God which may be forgiven and the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost which shall not be forgiven unto men Mat. 12.31 28. And if G. F. were a man capable either of rendring or understanding reason I would aske him why in using those words of Paul Rom. 14.9 he puts in the term God in stead of Lord for thus he saith p. 99. who Christ both died rose again that he might be God both of the dead and the living But the Apostle saith For to this end Christ both died and rose and revived that he might be Lord both of the dead and living So p. 17. Let the word of God dwell in you richly The Apostle hath Christ Col. 3.16 But this savours of his willingness to have no distinction between God and Christ For he saith p. 142. Christ is not distinct from the Father 29. And p. 160. by the Character he writes in he gives us these words for Seripture and so who is in Christ is a new creature And old things pass away But the A postle saith 2 Cor. 5.17 Therefore if any
I can find them And I must say the like of that passage of his p. 15. Priest There is nothing in man to be spoken to but man Answ How then ministred the Apostle to the spirit I cannot find where the Apostle is said to minister to the spirit 14. The next I will note is in p. 9. thus Priest The Quakers are deceived because they say Christ is within them kept down by something within them Ans Corrected by the Apostle who saith to the Saints Christ is in you the hope of glory and he was prest down as a Cart with sheaves It 's manifest that Christ is the Antecedent to He but where is that spoken of Christ The Prophet Amos not the Apostle saith in the name of the Lord Ch. 2. v. 13. Behold I am pressed under you as a cart is pressed that is full of sheaves But it is referred to the Lord or Jehovah that brought them out of the land of Egypt v. 10. and not to Christ But our Prophet George will not allow the Father and the Son to be distinct but all one See p. 99. therefore frequently referrs that to Christ which is spoken only of God the Father 15. So he doth with that Text 1 Cor. 15.28 which he doth us the favour to cite Chap. and verse and to put the words in Scripture Character too for thus he saith p. 343. The promise is to the seed the seed is Christ Christ all and in all 1 Cor. 15.28 He 's very unhappy both in reciting words and Texts for the Apostle saith thus And when all things shall be subdued unto him then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him that God not Christ may be all in all He could not have done a greater Injury to the Holy Spirit 's words than thus to put Christ for God for it mades them altogether absurd but whither will not the love of a false opinion drive men 16. Thus where the Scripture saith and the word was God G.F. saith p. 350. and 61. God is the word Jo. 1.1 I would gladly know of you my friends Whether the infallible spirit that leads G.F. into all truth doth not also bring things to his remembrance if it did at the time he wrote this then he sailed through wilful disobedience if it did not then G. F. is not infallible for here either his memory or his will fail'd him And this he is chargeable with though we should suppose there were no difference in the sence but I conceive there is a difference for though the Scripture saith And the word was made or was flesh yet no considerate man will say Flesh is the word neither is it in it self true 17. It seems to proceed from the same bitter root in him that he perverts the sence by so cutting short that Scripture Rom. 1.16 saying p. 160. And immortality not come to the light through the power of God which is the Gospel And p. 4. And the Apostle saith It the Gospel is the power of God whereas the Apostle saith indeed I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth c. which is far another thing than to say simply The Gospel is the power of God for what may not a man make of Scripture if he will take to himself this kind of license Then may we say of the like phrase 1 Cor. 1.18 The preaching of the cross is foolishness and foolishness is the power of God for the preaching of the cross is both 18. And if it had not been for the confounding of the person of the Son with the Father I see no reason why he should say p. 119. His father and he is greater then all For Christ saith Joh 10.29 My Father which gave them me speaking of the sheep is greater then all What would you say of your Adversary that should deal thus with your writings as G. Fox deals with Holy Scriptures 19. And he that dares thus to add and insert another person into the Text as he hath done in that now named what marvel is it that he adds the name of a person at all adventures whether it be right or wrong Thus doth he p. 134. and so deny Christ the Lord that bought them He had heard it's like formerly that Text 2 Pet. 2.1 so render'd by some or other and therefore it must be so though Peter saith only denying the Lord that bought them which may agree as well to God the Father as to Christ his Son 20. The two last Scriptures we noted we found addition in them here we have substraction which thought it might be pardon'd in another man that appears not to have any design in it or that condemneth not severely the like in others yet in him it cannot If he will quote Scripture why not as it lies plainly especially when brevity doth not constrain him to do otherwise Thus when he saith p. 165 Christ is come to whom every knee must how and tongue confess to the glory of God why doth he neither add the father to the term God nor insert that Jesus Christ is Lord as the Apostle doth both for he saith And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father But how the truth of this Scripture can consist with their Doctrine that say the Father and the Son are all one I cannot conceive 21. The 21 th Scripture which he hath notoriously and impudently added to is that in John Ch. 15. v. 25. which according to John runs thus But when the Comforter is come whom I will send unto you from the Father even the spirit of truth which proceedeth from the Father he shall testify of me But according to George thus Christ saith he is in the Father and the Father is in him and he will send them the spirit of truth the Comforter that proceeds from the Father and the Son Now that it may appear most evidently that he quotes this as Scripture and Christ's own words I will produce a passage out of the Epistle to G. Whitehead's Divinity of Christ subscrib'd by G.F. John Stubbs where he useth the words in the letter of Scripture saying also The Scripture saith and challengeth his adversaries to give him Scripture in plain words Thus it is read But we do charge Danson and his Brethren to make this good by Scripture in plain words For the Scripture saith The Father is in the Son and the Son is in the Father the holy Ghost proceeds from them I beseech you friends consider what spirit lead G. F. when he wrote these words What! Call and clamour upon his Antagonist for Scripture in plain words and then pretend to give Reader Scripture falsify it Can you produce an Author that ever wrote so inconsiderately If this be not a plain addition to the words of Christ I pray
man be in Christ he is a new creature old things are past away behold all things are become new The Apostle speaks of the new creation as a thing done G. F. as a thing a doing and not done for that agreed better with his design in tha place 30. But we have not yet done with the 2 nd Epistle to the Corinthians where Ch. 2. v. 16. the Apostle saith To the one that perish we are the Savour of death unto death and to the other the saved the Savour of life unto life But G. F. I suppose as he had heard it sometimes from some Priest applies it to the word thus For the word it self is immediate for it is the Savour of death to the death and of life to the life Thus when it is for the honour of his phrase the word must be put for the Apostles and Preachers of it 31. The Apostle Paul 2 Tim. 3. prophesying of the wicked ones that should come in the last dayes saith p. 6. of this sort are they which creeps into houses and lead captive silly women laden with sins led away with divers lusts ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth But G. F. that he may lay load upon all those Preachers that are not Quakers saith of suoh as have got the good wonds c. who are reprobates concerning the faith which crept into houses before the Apostles decease which have kept people always learning but never able to come to the know ledge of the truth led away with dibers lusts Now the Apostle doth not attribute to these false Teachers which yet were bad enough that they kept people always learning c. but they led captive such as were so He should give him without wrong to the holy spirit in the holy Apostle 32. And that our Prophet G. may seem to have some colour for disparaging the other Ministers upon the account of their humance learning he saith p. 70. So all your tools ye have wrought withal since the Apostasy hath been taken out of the stops of humane learning which is earthly this proves ye are Apostates and the spirits gone out into the world And Luke saith the tongues of the Hebrew Greek and Latine was set up a top of Christ by Pitale who crucified him But where Luke saith so he leaves us to ghess I have found indeed that Luke saith Ch. 23.38 And a super scription also was written over him in letters of Greek and Latine and Hebrew but I could never yet find Luke saying The tongues of the Hebrew Greek and Latine was set up a top of Christ This came out of George's own brain that is not over fraught with those tongues I dare warrant you but yet he will undertake to correct the Translatours and he never doth it with greater advantage than in the rendering of that passage of the Apostle to the. 33. Colossians Ch. 1. v. 23. which we read thus If ye continue in the faith grounded and setled and be not moved away from the hope of the Gospel which ye have heard and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven The use of this last clause in G. Fox is this p. 41. Priest He dare boldly assert that the Gospel is not first made known by the seeing within but by hearing tidings without c. G. Fox's Answ Contrary to that which they call their original which saith the Gospel is preached in every creature That which is to my purpose chiefly is that puts is for was that it may be accommodate to his Doctrine of the Gospel in these days and all days of the world preached within them that never heard or saw a tittle of the Gospel either by word or writing Thus when our Lord said unto his Disciples Mar. 16.15 Go ye into all the world and preach the Gospel to every creature in is not there he bade them do that which was done already and was always done ever since there were men in the world And them it would have been hand for the Apostle Paul to preach the Gospel not where Christ was named Rom. 15.20 It seems G. F's Gospel of Christ is preached where Christ is not named This excellent use doth G. Fox make of his skill in the Orginal as they call it But more of that afterward 34. But is it not pretty that whil'st G. F. charges the Translators with corrupting the Scripture because they render en to in English and sometimes with or among that yet himself when they have translated it in should change it into within as he chang'd it into with which I observed before upon Eph. 2. Thus p. 105. Now the Scriptures cannot lead into all truth but it testifies of that that doth so And if Christ be not within people they are reprobates The Apostle and the Translators say know you not your own selves how that Jesus Christ is in you except ye be reprobates 2. Cor. 15.5 But G. thinks he may boldly and to the Scripture when he doth not alter the sence though he reproves it very sharply in others As if in you could admit of no other sence but within you Let us see then whether the words of Christ will always admit that sence Mat. 20.26 27. But it shall not be so within you but whosoever will be great within you let him be your minister and whosoever will be chief within you let him be your servant Here if G. please to consult that which they call the Greek he will sind it en by min in you and then we must read it as I have done And is not that excellent sence let the impartial judge The like fault is G. F. guilty of in relation to 1 Joh. 2.27 where the Apostle speaketh of the anointing which abideth in you but G. p. 79. the Apostles brought the Saints then to the anointing within them and a little below in the same page no one knows the eye of the soul but who comes to the light within 35. But that charge will not lye against him for the term within in Luke 17.21 because he finds it in the Text but it 's rare with him to use any Text and not abuse it therefore in stead of The kingdom of God as it is in the Text he makes it go for the kingdom of heaven p. 64. But that 's a small matter and might be passed by but he will not leave it so for his Adversaries do often press him with the many Scriptures which speak of Christ's being in Heaven and consequently absent from the Saints on earth as far as heaven is from earth this Text now must be press'd for his service at this turn and must prove that Heaven is within men Therefore he said p. 101. And the Scriptures doth witness heaven within Is not this fair dealing first to change the Kingdom of God into he Kingdom of heaven and then to leave out Kingdom too and put Heaven for the
saith that Author of theirs the Scripture saith not When we were enemies God was reconcil'd to us but when we were enemies we were reconciled to God But may not G. F. say what him pleaseth for he speaks by an infallible spirit 43 p. 100. He introduceth the Priest saying Nor is it an essential in-dwelling of the divine nature in Gods people c. His Answ Doth not the Apostle say the divine nature the Saints was made partekers of But where doth any Apostle say so Peter saith 2 Pet. 1.4 Whereby are given to us exceeding great and precious promises that by these you might be partakers of the divine nature he doth not say They were was made partakers of the divine nature but They might be which may relate to the time to come after the day of Judgment and not to the present time Hewever he affirms that which is false concerning the Apostle 44. The 44 th Instance shall be that in Heb 10.26 27. which he quotes thus p. 339. And be that sinneth after he hath received the truth there remains no more sacrifice for sin but a fearful looking for of Judgment Heb. 10.27 But the Scripture saith For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth c. where it 's evident enough that the stress of this Text lies in the term wilfully which G. F. is plesed to leave quite out for so it agrees better with his Doctrine of perfection and the Scripture must be made to speak to his mind though it be false or nonsence To let pass other differences between him the Text. 45. The next Instance is rather of his ignorance and idleness in the use of Scripture than of his corrupting it by misrecital for p. 337. against his Adversary that salth that they and the Papists and Jesuites do agree all together that the Scripture is the word of God c. he saith the Minisrers of the word calls the Scripture a Declaration as ye may read Luke 1. and ye do not agree with them that set forth the Acts that called it a Treatise Acts 1. and ye do not agree with John Rev. 22 who saith the words nor with Moses nor God who spake all these words Exod. 20. In the beginning was the word and the word is God and the word liveth and abideth for ever but the Scripture is words and the Scripture cannot be broken p. 337. I suppose he has this distinction between the word and words above 20 times in his Book But if he would have looked upon his Greek Testament wherein he pretends to such skill that he often corrects the Translators he might have found that that very word which they translate Treatise Act. 1.1 is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Logon which is the same which in Jo. 1.1 is translated Word so that that very Text which he produceth against the Scripture it's being call'd word is a plain Text for it and the. Translators might justly and with great reason have translated thus The former word have I made c. and then Scripture would have been call'd in English word as it is in Greek So he saith p. 68. they the Scripture are not called the written word but words and yet his Greek Testament if he have one which I much doubt would have inform'd him that Scripture is called the word written 1 Cor. 15.54 where the English read the saying that is written but in Greek it is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ho logos ho gegrammenos the word written So that his distinction that he cracks so much of is come to nothing But we have little reason to expect that he that is so intolerably unfaithful in quoting the English should any way help it by the Greek which I shall show that for all his arrogant pretences he doth not at all understand 46. The A postle Paul 1 Cor. 14.31 For ye may all prophesie one by one that all may learn and all may be comforted But G. F. practice and Doctrine of the Apostles in the true church which said let all speak one by one Thus he changeth prophesy into speak as if all speaking were prophesying 47. The 47 th particular shall be that of-womens speaking in the Church which the Apostle disallows in the same 14 th Ch.v. 34 35. in as plain and express words as can well be spoken saying Let your women keep silence in the Chruches for it is not permitted unto them to speak but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the Law And if they will learn any thing let them ask their bus bands at home for it is a shame for women to speak in the Church Here if the Apostle do not command silence to women by sex in those cases wherein he allows men by sex to speak I understand nothing tht's written But G. F.p. 386. speaking of the woman that is forbid to speak in the Church saith now the woman here hath a Husband to ask at home and not usurp authority over the man but Christ in the male as in the female who redeems from under the Law and makes free from the Law that man may speak c. Here we may perceive he allows women as well as men to speak in the Church and indeed your practice shews that women are not in any case excluded from speaking where it is permitted to men Also we may perceive that by the husband that is to be asked at home he means Christ Now if we may take liberty to expound Scripture after this manner I count it utterly impossible to prove any truth by Scripture then we may as well deny Scripture as affirm it It will be a nose of wax that may be turned which way we please I do not in this particular charge G. F. with misrecital of adding or diminishing from Scripture words because he neither quotes the place nor puts the words in Scripture Character as he doth in the other instances but the exposition which he gives of it is so gross and absurd that it may well be reckon'd among his abuses of Scripture Besides it seems to be built upon a mis-reading of Husband for Husbands because Christ who is but one is made the Husbands that must be asked at home So one of your Authors saith But what husbands have widows to learn of but Christ And was not Christ the Husband of Philips 4 danghters And may not they that learn of their husbands speak then 48. The 48 th Instance of his abusing Scripture shall be that great doctrine of yours of not calling men Master and thus he saith p. 43. Priest Why may they not be called Master Answ It is his master that teacheth him to be called of men Master that is gone out of the truth but Christ said ' Be not of men called Master and wo be to them that are Matt. 23. Thus for G. Where I observe first that he puts in here of men into the Text as