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A17371	Maschil, or, A treatise to giue instruction touching the state of the Church of Rome since the Councell of Trent, whether shee be yet a true Christian church. And if she have denied the foundation of our faith. For the vindication of the right reuerend father in God, the L. Bishop of Exeter, from the cavills of H.B. in his book intituled The seven vialls. By Robert Butterfield Master of Arts, and minister of Gods Word.	Butterfield, Robert.	1629 (1629)	STC 4205; ESTC S120372	51,626	162

that the Church of Rome did as M. Hoo●er his discourse of iustification soundly interpret these fundamentall writings whereupon wee build our Faith as she doth willingly hold and embrace the same But secondly if the name of foundation doe note the principall thing which is beleeued then that is the foundation of our faith which Saint Paul hath to Timothie 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 This 1. Tim. ● 15. is a faithfull saying and worthy of all acceptation that Christ Iesus came into the world to saue sinners That of the Samaritans This is Christ the Sauiour Io●n 4 4● of the world That of the Apostle God manifested in the flesh iustified in 1. Tim 3. 16. the spirit scene of Angels preached vnto the Gentiles beleeued on in the world receiued vp into Glorie This is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The pillar v. 15. an●●ground of truth vnto which these 〈…〉 words are better referred than to the Church mentioned in the former part of the verse where she hath her appellation glorious enough That she is the House of God The Church of the liuing God For although the Church may bee Columna forensis a Pillar whereon doe hang the Edicts of the Great King which exhibites vnto vs all sauing truth for which cause it is necessary that they bee added vnto the Church which will bee Acts. 2. 47. made capable of saluation yet can she not be Columna architectonica that vnto the truth which a Pillar is vnto the house bearing vp the building for thus the Church is built vpon the Truth not the Truth vpon the Church CHAP. VI. What it is to ouerthrow the Foundation of Faith directly what by consequent WHat the Foundation of Faith is wee haue already seene now because that directly to hold the foundation is so essentiall to the Church of God that without it there can bee no Christian Church and that by our Aduersaries in this cause the denyall of the same is brought as a medium to proue the Church of Rome to bee no true Church it is therefore requisite that wee now enquire what it is directly to deny the foundation and what by consequence to ouerthrow it They ouerthrow it directly which directly deny that Iesus Christ came into the world to saue sinners to whom Christ is an execration as to Pagans and Turkes or they to whom hee is a stumbling blocke and a rocke of offence as the Iewes Other Foundation can no man lay than that which is layd 1. Cor. 3. 11. Iesus Christ St. Paul writing to the Hebrewes and desirous to win them to the acceptation of this Corner stone which their wise builders had reiected as vnfit for building tels vs what it is directly to deny this foundation and withall the hainousnesse of it namely To tread vnder foot the Heb. 10. 29. Sonne of God to count the bloud of the Couenant where withall wee are sanctified an vnholy thing and to do despite vnto the Spirit of Grace This is directly to deny the foundation Of which crime whosoeuer is able let him indict the Church of Rome producing sufficient euidence thereof and whosoeuer shall open his mouth to pleade for them let him be guilty of all the dishonour that euer hath been done to the Sonne of God If any man loue not the Lord Iesus 1. Cor. 16 22. Christ let him bee Anathema Maranatha But vntill such demonstratiue proofe be brought forth I resolue to sit downe and rest my selfe content to take vp his speech of whom it was truly said that he was great in all wise mens eyes but his owne The more M. H●oker his discour●e of iustification dreadfull a thing it is to deny saluation by Christ alone the more slow and fearefull I am except it be too manifest to lay a thing so grieuous to any mans charge Thus we see what it is to deny the foundation of Faith directly They ouerthrow it by consequent or indirectly which holding it directly maintaine any one assertion whatsoeuer whereupon the direct deny all thereof may bee necessarily concluded Thus the Galathians holding circumsion did by consequence ouerthrow saluation by Christ in as much as it was impossible that they should stand together Hence the Apostle vrgeth them with such dangerous sequ●lles If yee bee circumcised Christ Gal. 5. shall profit you nothing Christ is become of none effect vnto you that are iustifi●d by the Law c. It was truly said of the Philosopher 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 If one absurdity be granted a thousand will follow and as by long circuit of deduction it may bee that all Ho●ker ●●cle 〈◊〉 2. sub in●tio truth out of any truth may bee concluded So by a circle of consequence there is no errour in Diuinity but razeth the foundation Howbei● we make a difference of Heresies and Errours in this kinde some beeing in the next degree to infidelitie as those which deny any one Article of the Creede some such as from wh●nc● the deniall of the Faith may be with facility concluded as those ancient Heresies which strooke neare the head Of Hebion denying the Diuinitie of Christ and Marcion which denyed his humanity Some againe in which ranke are those which the Church of Rome maintaineth which be remoued by a greater distance from the Foundation although indeede they ouerthrow it Now this I dare confidently affirme That no one Heresie which the Church of Rome auoucheth at this day nor all of them together how damnable soeuer they bee in themselues do so nearely raze the foundation of Faith as any one of those broched in elder times by Nestorius Macedonius and the like who yet were neuer said to deny the foundation of Faith directly Thus wee see what it is directly to deny the foundation what also by consequent All infidels deny the foundation of Faith directly by consequent many a Christian man yea whole Christian Churches haue denied it and doe deny it at this present day as the Greeke Church the Churches of the Lutherans the doctrines of Arminius not the Church of Rome onely What Hooker ●is d●scourse of iustification Christian Churches the foundation of Christianitie not directly for then they cease to bee Christian Churches but by a consequent in respect whereof we condemne them as erroneous although for holding the foundation wee doe and must hold them Christian CHAP. VII How to distinguish betwixt the Church of Rome and Babylon in the Church and the state of the question in hand WHen Popish Writers demand of vs where our Church was before Luther our Diuines vsually returne them this answer That it was both within the Church of Rome and without it Without it in distinct societies as the Albigenses and Waldenses which arose in France Sauoy and the places neare adioyning from whom descended the Wicklefisles in England and the Hussites in Germany who as soone as the Church of Rome had interpreted her selfe touching some

this ●endeth Those irreproueable la●ours which the present age admireth and posteritie shall rather ●nuie than equall That admirable facultie wherewithall the Author of ●uerie good gift hath blessed our most heauenly Prelate aboue all the ●onnes of men all is blowne away with a puffe as if it were nothing but froth and to what end but to eleuate his authorite and by bringing his ●erson into dis-esteeme to eneruate ●is writings This is the artifice wherwithall some men at once doe thrust out others and worke themselues into the estimation of the common people But if Wit and Rhetorick be banished what shall succeed in the stead thereof why sound reason and substantiall demonstration Bu● are these incompatible or is it no● Rhetorique argumentatiue as well ● Logick did not Zeno compare Logi● to the fist and Rhetorique to the ope● hand the one a more strict the other indeed a more apert way ● reasoning and by so much doth Rhetorique the Queene of humane an● excell Logicke by how much th● open hand is a more elegant form than the shut Hee was some bod● ●a●rentius 〈◊〉 that thought hee could conuin● of error most of the Philosopher● for that they wanted Elegancie ● speech Ac mea quidem sententia sai● Pra●at ad lib. 4. 〈◊〉 he si quis ad scribendum in Thedogia accedat parui refort an aliqua● aliam facultatem affer at an non ni●● enim fere catera conferunt at qui ignarus cloquentiae est hunc indignum ●rorsus qui de Theologia loquatur existimo et certè sols eloquentes columnae Ecclesiae sunt etiam vt ab Apostolis vsque repetas inter quos mihi Paulus nulla alia re eminere quam eloquentia videtur In my opinion if a man come to write in Diuinitie it greatly mattereth not whether hee bring any other facultie or no but if hee bee not Eloquent ●aur Valla. ib. 〈…〉 a●ter loqu● 〈◊〉 cogitationes suas lite●i● mandat in Theologia praesertim ●mpudentissimus est siid con●●●●● sacere se art insamsamus quanquam 〈◊〉 est qui nol●te leganter facunde dicere quod cum 〈◊〉 non contin●i● videri volun● vt sunt p●rue●●● n●l●● aut 〈…〉 debere sic 〈◊〉 he is vnworthy to speake thereof for they are Eloquent men which are the pillars of the Church if wee looke backe to the verie Apostles amongst whom St. Paul excelleth in Eloquence And againe To presume to write Diuinitie without eloquence is impudencie and if it be purposely done madnesse although there is no man but would expresse his conceipts in clegancie of speech which because some cannot attain vnto they pretend such is their peruersenesse that they will not or indeed that they ought not so to speake Let vs then see what discourse that is which hath in it neither finenesse nor wit nor Rhetorique But you will say wee shal● haue sound reason and demonstratiue proofe in steed thereof So we hear● tell But I assure thee Reader if thou weigh it iudiciously thou wil● finde but a little wooll for this grea● cry and as the Prouerb saith Pro thesauro carbones in stead ●● treasure coales and some of them so hot that they burne our fingers i● we touch them CHAP. III. Mr. Burtons Argument answered touching the Markes of a true CHVRCH TO come to the disputation i● selfe I finde but onely one passage which is like an Argument for the rest that wee may see how good ●n Orator he is in causa Iudicia●● hee amplifies before hee proues and to shew vs his skill in Logicke he proues that which is granted him inueighing against the impieties of the Church of Rome wherein so long as he speakes the words of sober●esse and truth no man will bee his Aduersarie and shewing how iniurious their Doctrines are to the Foundation of our Faith by consequent ouerthrowing it which is nothing to the purpose His onely Argument which hee produceth is del●uered in this forme A true visible 7. Vialls p. 34. Church hath the true Markes of a true Visible Church namely pure and sound Doctrine and the Sacraments administred according to Christ his holy institution but these Markes are not to bee found vpon the Church of Rome therefore shee is no true Church This Argument he professeth to take Ibid. from the Doctrine of the Church of England if the Homilies containe any part thereof If Mr. Burton doe doubt of that wee can succour him with the nineteenth Article of Religion the vnquestionable doctrine of our Church where the same words are For answer whereunto we professe that wee esteeme these tokens such genuine Markes of the true Church of God that the more apparant they are in her the more glorious shee is in his sight and the more perfect in respect of her selfe And herewithall wee iustly defend ou●selues against the whole Antichristian Band that so long as wee haue that Doctrine which Christ and hi● Apostles deliuered vnto his Church purely taught amongst vs and the holy Sacraments rightly administred it is not the want of their vnwritten rotten traditions vnwritten truthes vntrue writings which can take away from vs the Appellation of a true Church Yet we know that these markes are not so essentiall to the true Church that so soone as vnsound Doctrine is mingled with the truth of Gods Word and the Sacraments vnduely administred that which was a Church should cease to bee one The Children of Israel did abide many dayes without a Sacrifice and Ephod c. yet then Hos 3. 4. did not God cease to bee their God nor they to bee his Church The Perkins Cases of Conscience Booke 2. Chap. c. quest 1. Sacrament of Baptisme saith one of note in the lawfull vse thereof is a note whereby the true Church of God is d●scerned and distinguished from the false Church not that the Church of God cannot bee a Church without the Sacrament for it may want Baptisme for a time and yet remaine a true Church as well as the Church of the Iewes in ancient times wanted Circumcision for the space of forty yeares Iosh 5. 6. and yet ceased not to bee a true Church and loued of God Thus he Besides wee are giuen to vnderstand See Rogers on the nineteenth Article prop. 8 by the authorized Commentary vpon the Confession of our Church that although the Church of England make these the Markes of the Visible Church yet doth she not so strictly tye the Church to the signes articulate as if all were excluded the Church which doe not rightly participate of the Word and Sacraments for it may fall out that they may bee corrupted as in the times of blindenesse and superstition or intermitted as in persecution Thus this Argument alledged concludes affirmatiuely Wheresoeuer Gods Word is purely preached and the Sacraments duely administred there is a true Church but not negatiuely Wheresoeuer these are not found in such sort as were to be desired there is no