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A03885 A summary of controuersies Wherein are briefly treated the cheefe questions of diuinity, now a dayes in dispute betweene Catholikes & protestants: especially out of the holy Scripture. Written in Latin by the R. Father, Iames Gordon Huntley of Scotland, Doctour of Diuinity, of the Society of Iesus. And translated into English by I.L. of the same Society. The I. tome, deuided into two controuersies.; Controversiarum epitomes. English Gordon, James, 1541-1620.; Wright, William, 1563-1639. 1618 (1618) STC 13998; ESTC S104309 167,262 458

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be_v to_o say_v to_o uphould_v the_o house_n &_o to_o strengthen_v it_o the_o apostle_n here_o attribute_v they_o both_o to_o the_o church_n the_o one_o when_o he_o call_v h●r_o the_o pillar_n of_o truth_n the_o other_o when_o ●●_o call_v she_o the_o ground_n of_o the_o same_o truth_n for_o the_o pillar_n also_o of_o the_o earth_n according_a to_o the_o hebrew_n 4._o job._n ●_o v._o 6._o psal_n 74._o vel_fw-la inxta_fw-la hebr●os_fw-la 79._o v._o 4._o phrase_n do_v signify_v the_o low_a foundation_n of_o the_o earth_n so_o god_n be_v say_v to_o shake_v the_o pillar_n of_o the_o earth_n &_o elsewhere_o to_o strengthen_v the_o pillar_n of_o the_o earth_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o very_a foundation_n thereof_o 17._o these_o so_o manifest_a and_o perspicuous_a 15._o calu._n in●_n ad_fw-la tim._n 3._o v._n 15._o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n do_v compel_v caluin_n at_o the_o last_o to_o be_v of_o our_o opinion_n albeit_o after_o his_o accustom_a manner_n at_o the_o first_o he_o wrongful_o slaunder_v we_o affirm_v that_o catholic_n hold_v or_o to_o use_v his_o own_o word_n do_v blab_v out_o this_o horrible_a blasphemy_n that_o be_v to_o say_v that_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n be_v not_o strong_a enough_o unless_o it_o be_v uphoulden_a by_o the_o shoulder_n of_o man_n and_o that_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v uncertain_a till_o by_o humble_a prayer_n as_o it_o be_v it_o borrow_v some_o certaymy_n from_o man_n and_o afterward_o he_o affirm_v that_o the_o apostle_n in_o this_o place_n will_v nothing_o else_o but_o that_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n be_v support_v by_o the_o pure_a preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n but_o that_o which_o he_o say_v first_o be_v a_o mere_a slander_n for_o we_o do_v not_o say_v that_o the_o truth_n or_o the_o word_n of_o god_n absolute_o and_o consider_v precise_o in_o itself_o receive_v it_o certainty_n and_o strength_n from_o the_o church_n for_o in_o this_o sense_n it_o receyve_v a_o most_o perfect_a strength_n and_o large_a authority_n from_o god_n himself_o but_o in_o regard_n of_o man_n and_o in_o consideration_n of_o our_o knowledge_n it_o receive_v it_o certainty_n from_o the_o church_n fine_a infra_fw-la hac_fw-la controu_n cap._n 16._o in_o fine_a as_o afterward_o we_o will_v declare_v more_o at_o large_a the_o which_o also_o caluin_n in_o the_o word_n immediate_o follow_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v most_o true_a when_o he_o write_v in_o this_o 17._o calu._n loco_fw-la citato_fw-la rom._n 10._o five_o 17._o sort_n s._n paul_n simple_o understand_v say_v caluin_n that_o which_o in_o other_o word_n he_o say_v in_o the_o ten_o chapter_n to_o the_o roman_n because_o faith_n be_v by_o hear_v there_o will_v be_v no_o faith_n unless_o there_o he_o some_o that_o preach_v therefore_o in_o regard_n of_o man_n the_o church_n support_v the_o truth_n because_o it_o make_v it_o famous_a by_o her_o praise_n and_o commendation_n because_o the_o retain_v it_o in_o sincerity_n and_o purity_n and_o because_o the_o deliver_v and_o sendoth_a it_o to_o her_o posterity_n thus_o caluin_n 18._o but_o that_o which_o second_o he_o add_v that_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n be_v support_v and_o uphold_v by_o the_o pure_a preach_n of_o the_o church_n be_v indeed_o most_o true_a but_o he_o shall_v have_v consider_v that_o this_o pure_a preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n can_v be_v find_v but_o only_o in_o the_o church_n and_o that_o no_o other_o but_o man_n can_v preach_v the_o pure_a gospel_n wherefore_o if_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n be_v sustain_v by_o the_o pure_a preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n it_o necessary_o follow_v also_o that_o the_o church_n must_v be_v sustain_v by_o man_n and_o consequent_o that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v the_o gound_z of_o truth_n albeit_o not_o absolute_o yet_o in_o regard_n of_o we_o and_o our_o 15._o beza_n in_o 1._o ad_fw-la tim._n 3._o v._n 15._o knowledge_n so_o as_o beza_n also_o be_v force_v to_o confess_v the_o same_o explicate_v those_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n understand_v this_o say_v beza_n not_o simple_o in_o itself_o but_o in_o regard_n of_o us._n thus_o he_o 19_o it_o be_v therefore_o manifest_a as_o well_o out_o of_o caluin_n as_o beza_n that_o the_o church_n in_o regard_n of_o we_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o truth_n or_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o consequent_o of_o our_o faith_n which_o rely_v thereon_o but_o that_o which_o in_o regard_n of_o man_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o our_o faith_n that_o be_v the_o true_a ground_n thereof_o because_o our_o faith_n can_v well_o nor_o must_v not_o be_v consider_v but_o in_o regard_n of_o man_n see_v that_o our_o faith_n can_v be_v find_v but_o in_o man_n only_o if_o therefore_o in_o regard_n of_o man_n the_o church_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o truth_n it_o be_v also_o most_o true_o and_o necessary_o the_o ground_n of_o our_o faith_n 20._o furthermore_o that_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n do_v constant_o hold_v the_o preach_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n to_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o our_o faith_n those_o excellent_a word_n of_o s._n augustine_n do_v manifest_o declare_v when_o he_o 3._o s._n aug._n tom._n 6._o contra_fw-la epist_n manich._n cap._n 5._o calu._n l._n 1._o instit_fw-la sect_n 3._o write_v thus_o dispute_v against_o the_o manichee_n ay_o say_v he_o will_v not_o believe_v the_o gospel_n but_o that_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n move_v i_o thereunto_o this_o sentence_n of_o s._n augustine_n vex_v our_o adversary_n very_a much_o caluin_n go_v about_o to_o persuade_v the_o ignorant_a people_n that_o s._n augustin_n speak_v of_o himself_o yet_o remain_v a_o manichean_a heretic_n and_o not_o of_o himself_o as_o be_v convert_v and_o make_v a_o catholic_a but_o this_o be_v a_o ridiculous_a evasion_n for_o the_o word_n which_o follow_v a_o little_a after_o do_v show_n that_o this_o be_v a_o false_a interpretation_n of_o caluin_n if_o thou_o do_v hold_v thyself_o to_o the_o gospel_n s._n augustine_n speak_v unto_o a_o manichean_a heretic_n i_o will_v hold_v myself_o to_o those_o by_o who_o commandment_n i_o belive_v the_o gospel_n he_o speak_v therefore_o of_o himself_o as_o now_o be_v a_o catholic_a and_o after_o a_o few_o word_n who_o authority_n say_v he_o be_v infringe_v &_o weaken_v i_o can_v not_o now_o even_o believe_v the_o gospel_n itself_o where_o he_o show_v plain_o that_o our_o faith_n do_v so_o depend_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n that_o it_o be_v weaken_v or_o take_v a_o way_n it_o can_v not_o remain_v or_o continue_v by_o any_o faith_n of_o the_o gospel_n whereby_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o it_o be_v false_a which_o junius_n write_v that_o s._n augustine_n do_v only_o speak_v of_o the_o accidentary_a and_o not_o of_o the_o necessary_a cause_n 21._o other_o say_v that_o s._n augustine_n do_v speak_v of_o this_o or_o that_o book_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o not_o of_o the_o whole_a gospel_n in_o general_a but_o the_o very_a word_n of_o s._n augustine_n do_v teach_v the_o contrary_a because_o he_o speak_v every_o where_n of_o the_o gospel_n itself_o in_o general_a moreover_o one_o and_o the_o same_o reason_n be_v of_o one_o book_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o of_o all_o the_o rest_n as_o concern_v faith_n 22._o other_o last_o do_v answer_n that_o s._n augustine_n do_v not_o speak_v of_o the_o church_n of_o his_o time_n but_o of_o the_o primitive_a church_n wherein_o be_v the_o apostle_n who_o approve_v the_o gospel_n but_o this_o solution_n be_v also_o easy_o refute_v out_o of_o the_o word_n next_o follow_v to_o who_o say_v s._n augustin_n i_o have_v obey_v say_v believe_v the_o gospel_n why_o shall_v i_o not_o obey_v they_o then_o say_v unto_o i_o do_v not_o believe_v manicheus_fw-la but_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o primitive_a church_n speak_v nothing_o of_o manicheus_fw-la but_o that_o church_n only_o which_o be_v in_o s._n augustine_n time_n say_v unto_o he_o do_v not_o believe_v manicheus_fw-la for_o manicheus_fw-la live_v many_o year_n 4._o 8._o aug._n tom._n 6._o contra_fw-la faustum_n l._n 13._o c._n 4._o after_o the_o primitive_a church_n yea_o even_o after_o s._n cyprian_n that_o be_v to_o say_v almost_o three_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n as_o the_o same_o s._n augustine_n testify_v and_o it_o be_v otherwise_o sufficient_o well_o know_v that_o the_o manichean_a heresy_n be_v unknown_a in_o the_o world_n before_o the_o year_n 277._o see_v baronius_n in_o his_o 2._o tom_n in_o the_o year_n 277._o in_o the_o 2._o number_n and_o other_o follow_v chap._n vi_o the_o argument_n of_o our_o adversary_n be_v confute_v now_o it_o remain_v we_o answer_v to_o the_o argument_n of_o our_o adversary_n for_o by_o our_o answer_n the_o difficulty_n of_o this_o who_o controversy_n will_v be_v more_o
of_o it_o albeit_o it_o be_v immediate_o from_o god_n to_o the_o end_n it_o be_v make_v manifest_a unto_o us._n for_o otherwise_o we_o shall_v not_o be_v oblige_v by_o the_o authority_n thereof_o but_o this_o be_v not_o do_v now_o by_o miracle_n nor_o by_o the_o immediate_a or_o extraordinary_a revelation_n of_o god_n therefore_o it_o rest_v that_o we_o say_v it_o be_v do_v by_o the_o ordinary_a &_o mediate_a revelation_n of_o god_n that_o be_v to_o say_v by_o the_o church_n or_o rather_o by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o speak_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o church_n chap._n ix_o that_o the_o church_n be_v the_o judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n see_v that_o there_o arise_v daily_o so_o many_o disputation_n and_o controversye_n of_o matter_n of_o faith_n none_o can_v deny_v but_o that_o there_o must_v necessary_o be_v some_o judge_n appoint_v who_o must_v define_v end_n and_o determine_v such_o controversye_n for_o otherwise_o there_o will_v never_o be_v a_o end_n of_o such_o matter_n but_o it_o be_v a_o great_a difficulty_n who_o must_v be_v this_o judge_n the_o sectary_n of_o this_o time_n almost_o all_o refuse_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n for_o they_o see_v very_o well_o that_o if_o they_o admit_v she_o as_o judge_v all_o their_o error_n will_v be_v quite_o overthrow_v wherefore_o some_o of_o they_o affirm_v that_o the_o sole_a scripture_n must_v be_v the_o judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n and_o this_o be_v the_o first_o doctrine_n of_o our_o adversary_n to_o wit_n luther_n &_o zuinglius_fw-la 2._o but_o our_o late_a adversary_n when_o they_o consider_v that_o it_o be_v a_o absurd_a thing_n to_o make_v the_o scripture_n be_v a_o thing_n 1._o cap._n 18._o controu_fw-fr 1._o without_o life_n the_o judge_n as_o we_o have_v declare_v before_o they_o fly_v unto_o their_o private_a spirit_n the_o which_o they_o will_v have_v the_o judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n but_o lest_o they_o may_v seem_v to_o attribute_v too_o much_o unto_o themselves_o they_o endeavour_v to_o colour_v their_o private_a spirit_n with_o the_o famous_a title_n or_o name_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n affirm_v the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o be_v the_o only_a judge_n of_o all_o controversye_n 3._o wherefore_o there_o be_v three_o thing_n here_o to_o be_v prove_v first_o that_o the_o scripture_n can_v be_v judge_n second_o that_o neither_o the_o private_a spirit_n can_v be_v it_o three_o that_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v the_o only_a and_o most_o true_a judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n 4._o as_o concern_v the_o first_o whereas_o our_o adunersary_n every_o where_n teach_v that_o nothing_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v which_o be_v not_o express_o to_o be_v find_v in_o holy_a scripture_n it_o be_v a_o strange_a thing_n that_o they_o will_v persuade_v man_n that_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n whereas_o we_o read_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o any_o place_n of_o holy_a scripture_n 5._o yea_o even_o in_o these_o testimony_n be_v only_o attribute_v to_o the_o scripture_n and_o not_o judgement_n search_v the_o scripture_n say_v christ_n 19_o joan._n 5._o v._n 19_o and_o the_o same_o be_v they_o that_o give_v testimony_n of_o i_o and_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o the_o law_n of_o god_n be_v often_o call_v in_o scripture_n in_o the_o hebrew_n phrase_n eda_n or_o eduth_n or_o tenda_n that_o be_v to_o say_v 118._o psalm_n 118._o a_o testimony_n yea_o even_o in_o one_o psalm_n it_o be_v call_v above_o twenty_o time_n by_o that_o name_n 6._o moreover_o in_o the_o prophet_n isay_n in_o the_o same_o place_n false_o cite_v by_o our_o adversary_n that_o they_o may_v prove_v thereby_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o controversy_n it_o be_v call_v a_o witness_n or_o a_o testimony_n and_o not_o a_o judge_n nay_o rather_o to_o the_o 20._o isa_n 8._o v._n 20._o law_n say_v the_o prophet_n and_o to_o the_o testimony_n 7._o furthermore_o one_o thing_n be_v more_o absurd_a that_o in_o matter_n of_o such_o moment_n to_o appoint_v such_o a_o deaf_a and_o dumb_a judge_n and_o who_o may_v also_o be_v corrupt_v for_o both_o party_n and_o who_o sentence_n either_o party_n use_v indifferent_o but_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o scripture_n be_v such_o a_o judge_n for_o it_o can_v neither_o speak_v nor_o hear_v and_o so_o in_o like_a manner_n do_v all_o heretic_n ancient_a and_o modern_a also_o use_v the_o scripture_n last_o almost_o all_o our_o adversary_n do_v see_v how_o absurd_a these_o thing_n be_v and_o therefore_o they_o fly_v unto_o their_o own_o private_a spirit_n the_o which_o they_o call_v the_o holy_a ghost_n wherefore_o let_v we_o come_v now_o to_o the_o second_o point_n 8._o as_o concern_v therefore_o this_o private_a spirit_n first_o there_o be_v none_o who_o doubt_v but_o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v the_o chief_a judge_n of_o all_o controversye_n but_o the_o question_n be_v where_o this_o holy_a spirit_n be_v to_o be_v find_v and_o in_o who_o it_o remain_v 9_o moreover_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n do_v not_o remain_v or_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o any_o book_n lest_o peradventure_o our_o adversary_n shall_v send_v we_o to_o their_o bibles_n but_o in_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o believer_n now_o we_o ask_v whether_o this_o holy_a ghost_n which_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o all_o be_v in_o the_o hart_n of_o every_o believer_n or_o rather_o in_o the_o hart_n of_o the_o whole_a catholic_a church_n if_o they_o say_v in_o the_o hart_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n we_o have_v our_o desire_n if_o they_o say_v in_o the_o hart_n of_o every_o private_a man_n it_o will_v follow_v that_o no_o private_a person_n can_v err_v in_o his_o own_o judgement_n see_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n can_v err_v in_o his_o judgement_n he●re_o true_o we_o seek_v for_o that_o judge_n which_o can_v err_v 10._o furthermore_o every_o private_a man_n shall_v be_v come_v the_o judge_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n if_o every_o such_o private_a person_n have_v this_o spirit_n which_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n whereupon_o there_o will_v ensue_v a_o great_a confusion_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n 11._o beside_o that_o if_o every_o believer_n be_v the_o judge_n they_o our_o adversary_n must_v needs_o admit_v the_o ancient_a father_n as_o judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n the_o which_o they_o will_v never_o do_v for_o they_o dare_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o the_o ancient_a father_n be_v true_a believer_n why_o therefore_o do_v they_o attribute_v unto_o themselves_o that_o which_o they_o so_o u●hemently_o deny_v to_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n 21._o moreover_o if_o every_o believer_n can_v err_v in_o his_o judgement_n much_o less_o can_v a_o great_a many_o such_o err_v and_o least_o of_o all_o can_v the_o church_n of_o all_o believer_n err_v wherefore_o whatsoever_o our_o adversary_n say_v they_o will_v be_v force_v to_o confess_v and_o grant_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v the_o judge_n as_o he_o remain_v in_o the_o whole_a church_n speak_v and_o judge_v by_o the_o mouth_n thereof_o and_o in_o this_o manner_n even_o out_o of_o our_o adversary_n doctrine_n we_o gather_v by_o a_o necessary_a consequence_n our_o opinion_n 13._o last_o that_o which_o they_o affirm_v that_o the_o private_a spirit_n of_o every_o particular_a person_n be_v judge_n be_v thereby_o declare_v to_o be_v false_a that_o they_o themselves_o acknowledge_v that_o there_o be_v no_o private_a man_n which_o at_o some_o time_n can_v err_v in_o his_o indgment_n but_o here_o we_o inquire_v for_o a_o judge_n which_o can_v err_v for_o otherwise_o in_o matter_n of_o such_o moment_n and_o of_o which_o our_o eternal_a salvation_n depend_v we_o shall_v dangerous_o be_v force_v to_o have_v recourse_n to_o a_o erroneous_a judge_n who_o judgement_n be_v variable_a uncertain_a deceitful_a and_o oftentimes_o manifest_o false_a 14._o but_o now_o as_o concern_v the_o three_o point_n that_o the_o church_n be_v the_o judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n we_o 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church_n for_o this_o true_o can_v never_o be_v corrupt_v falsify_v or_o change_v because_o the_o church_n be_v always_o present_a who_o always_o give_v most_o clear_a and_o evident_a testimony_n of_o her_o own_o doctrine_n this_o doctrine_n also_o of_o the_o church_n remain_v always_o constant_a and_o immovable_a because_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v always_o present_a who_o will_v not_o permit_v the_o church_n to_o err_v according_a to_o those_o word_n of_o christ_n i_o will_v 16._o joan._n 14._o v._n 16._o ask_v my_o father_n and_o he_o will_v give_v you_o another_o comforter_n that_o he_o may_v remain_v everlasting_o with_o you_o 5._o the_o church_n have_v the_o five_o property_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o fullness_n and_o sufficiency_n of_o doctrine_n for_o the_o church_n teach_v all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n according_a to_o that_o promise_n of_o christ_n when_o the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n shall_v come_v he_o will_v teach_v you_o all_o truth_n so_o that_o the_o 13._o 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c._n 4._o tert._n loco_fw-la cita_fw-la gal._n 2._o v._n 2._o his_o light_n desire_v to_o have_v his_o faith_n and_o preach_v authorize_v by_o his_o predecessor_n how_o much_o more_o reason_n have_v i_o to_o desire_v the_o like_a for_o the_o gospel_n of_o s._n luke_n see_v the_o same_o be_v so_o necessary_a for_o the_o gospel_n of_o his_o master_n thus_o far_o tertullian_n 8._o and_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o the_o revelation_n of_o s._n brigit_fw-la and_o s._n catherine_n of_o sienna_n albeit_o they_o be_v true_o reveal_v unto_o they_o by_o god_n yet_o they_o do_v not_o appertain_v to_o the_o catholic_a faith_n because_o they_o be_v not_o approve_v by_o the_o church_n as_o the_o undoubted_a and_o certain_a word_n of_o god_n 9_o even_o as_o also_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n many_o before_o s._n luke_n write_v the_o act_n of_o christ_n as_o s._n luke_n himself_o testify_v and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o the_o ghospell_n only_o of_o 1._o luc._n 1._o v._n 1._o two_o of_o they_o to_o wit_n 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place_n why_o be_v paul_n crucify_v for_o you_o or_o be_v you_o baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o paul_n 11._o but_o we_o teach_v that_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n be_v inferior_a and_o not_o equal_a unto_o christ_n whereupon_o he_o be_v also_o call_v the_o vicar_n of_o christ_n as_o subject_v unto_o he_o and_o not_o divide_v from_o he_o moreover_o we_o teach_v that_o the_o pope_n do_v not_o give_v the_o inward_a and_o spiritual_a gift_n of_o faith_n hope_n and_o charity_n but_o he_o be_v only_o the_o vicar_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o exterior_a government_n of_o the_o church_n 12._o the_o first_o argument_n the_o apostle_n to_o the_o corinthian_n and_o ephesian_n do_v recount_v diverse_a office_n of_o the_o church_n and_o 11._o 1._o cor._n 1._o v._n 18._o e●bes_n 4._o v._n 11._o yet_o he_o say_v nothing_o of_o s_n peter_n i_o answer_v first_o that_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o the_o apostle_n make_v any_o mention_n of_o s._n peter_n in_o every_o 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