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A81826 Of the right of churches and of the magistrates power over them. Wherein is further made out 1. the nullity and vanity of ecclesiasticall power (of ex-communicating, deposing, and making lawes) independent from the power of magistracy. 2. The absurdity of the distinctions of power and lawes into ecclesiasticall and civil, spirituall and temporall. 3. That these distinctions have introduced the mystery of iniquity into the world, and alwayes disunited the minds and affections of Christians and brethren. 4. That those reformers who have stood for a jurisdiction distinct from that of the magistrate, have unawares strenghthened [sic] the mystery of iniquity. / By Lewis du Moulin Professour of History in the Vniversity of Oxford. Du Moulin, Lewis, 1606-1680. 1658 (1658) Wing D2544; Thomason E2115_1; ESTC R212665 195,819 444

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i_o humble_o conceive_v that_o god_n work_n which_o be_v also_o your_o work_n in_o settle_v religion_n be_v half_o do_v to_o your_o hand_n for_o all_o jurisdiction_n now_o stream_v from_o one_o jurisdiction_n even_o from_o that_o of_o the_o sovereign_a magistrate_n that_o religion_n can_v choose_v but_o be_v well_o settle_v which_o retain_v soundness_n in_o doctrine_n and_o holiness_n in_o life_n be_v harbour_v under_o such_o a_o church-government_n as_o have_v no_o clash_n with_o that_o of_o the_o magistrate_n such_o as_o i_o humble_o conceive_v may_v be_v establish_v by_o set_v up_o overseer_n and_o bishop_n over_o minister_n and_o church_n with_o who_o if_o the_o right_n of_o private_a church_n can_v but_o stand_v &_o be_v keep_v inviolable_a as_o no_o doubt_n but_o it_o may_v no_o government_n can_v be_v imagine_v more_o preserve_a conformity_n in_o doctrine_n and_o discipline_n &_o beside_o banish_v all_o jurisdiction_n which_o step_v between_o magistracy_n &_o the_o inward_a 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of_o your_o godly_a proceed_n a_o table_n of_o the_o content_n chap._n i._n of_o the_o nature_n of_o power_n &_o authority_n that_o there_o be_v but_o two_o way_n to_o bring_v man_n to_o yield_v obedience_n either_o by_o a_o coactive_a power_n or_o by_o persuade_v they_o by_o advice_n and_o counsel_n that_o there_o be_v no_o medium_n betwixt_o command_n and_o counsel_n which_o show_v that_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v a_o name_n without_o a_o thing_n not_o be_v exercise_v by_o either_o of_o they_o the_o division_n of_o power_n and_o of_o the_o subordination_n and_o coordination_n of_o power_n many_o error_n and_o mistake_n be_v discover_v about_o subordination_n and_o coordination_n of_o power_n that_o the_o power_n call_v ecclesiastical_a do_v signify_v nothing_o and_o such_o as_o it_o be_v be_v subordinate_a to_o that_o of_o the_o magistrate_n fol._n 1_o chap._n ii_o of_o the_o nature_n and_o division_n of_o right_n divine_a and_o humane_a in_o vain_a do_v they_o call_v thing_n of_o divine_a positive_a right_n which_o be_v act_v by_o a_o natural_a right_n such_o be_v many_o church_n act_n thing_n that_o be_v of_o divine_a right_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v of_o humane_a right_n and_o on_o the_o contrary_a those_o thing_n that_o be_v of_o humane_a right_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v of_o divine_a right_n which_o be_v a_o argument_n that_o by_o right_a power_n can_v be_v divide_v betwixt_o clergy_n and_o laity_n 25_o chap._n iii_o the_o nature_n matter_n form_n and_o author_n of_o law_n the_o canon_n and_o sentence_n of_o church-judicatories_a have_v no_o force_n of_o law_n except_o they_o receive_v it_o from_o the_o sanction_n of_o the_o magistrate_n the_o defect_n in_o the_o division_n of_o law_n into_o divine_a and_o humane_a into_o moral_n ceremonial_a and_o politic_a and_o into_o ecclesiastical_a and_o civil_a 34_o chap._n iu_o of_o the_o nature_n of_o judgement_n what_o judgement_n every_o private_a man_n have_v what_o the_o magistrate_n and_o what_o minister_n synod_n and_o church-judicatories_a they_o have_v no_o definitive_a judgement_n as_o mr._n rutherfurd_n assert_n but_o the_o magistrate_n have_v the_o great_a share_n in_o definitive_a judgement_n which_o be_v prove_v by_o some_o passage_n of_o mr._n rutherfurd_n and_o of_o pareus_n and_o rivetus_n who_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o controversy_n 44_o chap._n v._o a_o examination_n of_o the_o 30._o chapter_n of_o the_o confession_n of_o faith_n make_v by_o the_o river_n assembly_n of_o divine_n that_o in_o their_o assembly_n they_o assume_v no_o jurisdiction_n nor_o have_v any_o deleg●…d_n to_o they_o from_o the_o magistrate_n and_o therefore_o be_v not_o to_o attribute_v it_o to_o their_o brethren_n that_o the_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v the_o same_o with_o the_o magistrate_n jurisdiction_n mr._n gillespy_v reason_n examine_v 53_o chap._n vi_o whether_o jesus_n christ_n have_v appoint_v a_o jurisdiction_n call_v ecclesiastical_a as_o king_n and_o head_n of_o his_o church_n of_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n in_o what_o sense_n the_o magistrate_n be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n 65_o chap._n vii_o the_o strength_n of_o mr._n gillespy_v reason_n to_o disprove_v that_o the_o magistrate_n be_v not_o chief_a governor_n of_o the_o church_n under_o christ_n examine_v 76_o chap._n viii_o mr._n gillespy_v manifest_a contradiction_n in_o state_v the_o magistrate_n power_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n 83_o chap._n ix_o the_o concession_n of_o mr._n gillespie_n which_o come_v to_o nothing_o by_o the_o multitude_n of_o his_o evasion_n and_o distinction_n the_o vanity_n and_o nullity_n of_o he_o and_o other_o man_n division_n and_o distinction_n of_o power_n martyr_n musculus_fw-la gualterus_n allege_v against_o the_o name_n of_o a_o power_n ecclesiastical_a when_o it_o be_v in_o truth_n the_o magistrate_n power_n the_o position_n of_o maccovius_fw-la about_o the_o power_n of_o the_o magistrate_n in_o sacred_a thing_n not_o hitherto_o 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