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A19033 The plea for infants and elder people, concerning their baptisme, or, A processe of the passages between M. Iohn Smyth and Richard Clyfton wherein, first is proved, that the baptising of infants of beleevers, is an ordinance of God, secondly, that the rebaptising of such, as have been formerly baptised in the apostate churches of Christians, is utterly unlawful, also, the reasons and objects to the contrarie, answered : divided into two principal heads, I. Of the first position, concerning the baptising of infants, II. Of the second position, concerning the rebaptising of elder people. Clyfton, Richard, d. 1616. 1610 (1610) STC 5450; ESTC S1572 214,939 244

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read_v that_o it_o be_v call_v the_o door_n of_o 27._o *_o ro●_n 3-4_a 3._o 27._o the_o church_n the_o scripture_n have_v these_o phrase_n baptise_a into_o christ_n baptize_v into_o his_o death_n and_o such_o like_a notwithstanding_o in_o some_o sense_n it_o may_v be_v call_v the_o door_n because_o it_o seal_v unto_o we_o christ_n who_o be_v the_o door_n and_o for_o that_o it_o be_v the_o first-ordinance_n that_o either_o such_o as_o come_v to_o the_o church_n or_o that_o be_v bear_v in_o the_o church_n be_v make_v partaker_n of_o whereas_o you_o intimate_v that_o a_o man_n be_v invisible_o elect_v and_o have_a title_n to_o the_o re._n re._n covenant_n may_v thereupon_o 1._o visible_o enter_v into_o the_o false_a church_n by_o false_a baptism_n and_o then_o upon_o his_o repentance_n come_v to_o the_o true_a church_n and_o enter_v thereinto_o not_o by_o baptism_n but_o that_o the_o door_n of_o antichrist_n shall_v open_v he_o the_o way_n into_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n ans_fw-fr ans_fw-fr etc._n etc._n i_o answer_v 1._o do_v not_o yourself_o intimate_v thus_o much_o concern_v such_o as_o be_v of_o year_n and_o make_v themselves_o profession_n be_v baptize_v into_o antichrist_n apostasy_n 2._o my_o speech_n be_v of_o such_o of_o god_n people_n as_o be_v bear_v 52._o †_o carra●_n pag._n 52._o in_o babylon_n which_o yourself_o call_v *_o member_n of_o a_o false_a church_n 3._o baptism_n that_o be_v retain_v in_o the_o apostate_n church_n of_o antichrist_n be_v not_o false_a in_o that_o sense_n as_o you_o so_o call_v it_o but_o be_v the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n there_o pollute_v as_o former_o i_o have_v show_v 4._o god_n people_n come_v out_o of_o babylon_n do_v no_o more_o enter_v into_o the_o true_a church_n without_o baptism_n than_o those_o his_o people_n that_o separate_v from_o the_o apostasy_n of_o israel_n come_v to_o jerusalem_n without_o circumcision_n otherwise_o i_o do_v not_o intimate_v or_o speak_v whereas_o i_o say_v you_o intimate_v so_o much_o 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