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&_o my_o tabernacle_n shall_v be_v with_o they_o &_o i_o will_v be_v their_o god_n &_o they_o shall_v be_v my_o people_n and_o the_o fulfil_n hereof_o be_v set_v down_o rev._n 21_o 3._o behold_v the_o tabernacle_n of_o god_n be_v with_o man_n and_o he_o will_v dwell_v with_o they_o and_o they_o shall_v be_v his_o people_n so_o in_o revelat._n 11.1_o the_o temple_n be_v distinguish_v from_o they_o that_o worship_n therein_o which_o be_v the_o people_n the_o temple_n then_o be_v a_o outward_a sign_n of_o god_n presence_n with_o his_o people_n and_o of_o his_o inward_a dwell_n in_o their_o heart_n by_o 3.16_o faith_n and_o by_o his_o spirit_n unto_o their_o salvation_n so_o antichrist_n temple_n be_v a_o outward_a show_n of_o his_o presence_n with_o that_o seduce_a people_n in_o who_o heart_n 2.10.11.12_o he_o dwell_v by_o popish_a faith_n and_o by_o his_o spirit_n of_o error_n carry_v they_o to_o damnation_n but_o as_o antichrist_n shall_v not_o profess_o deny_v the_o true_a god_n or_o 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babylon_n upon_o the_o 2._o dragon_n throne_n and_o 19.19_o fight_v against_o the_o lamb_n and_o against_o the_o saint_n 11.2_o tread_v under_o foot_n the_o holy_a city_n and_o 8.11_o cast_v down_o the_o place_n of_o christ_n sanctuary_n when_o th'apostle_n therefore_o tell_v we_o that_o antichrist_n sit_v as_o god_n in_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v first_o of_o their_o invade_v and_o destroy_v of_o god_n church_n and_o people_n as_o the_o hethen_n of_o old_a 9·_a deal_v with_o jerusalem_fw-la &_o dweller_n therein_o second_o of_o their_o own_o vain_a 11.13.14.15_o ostentation_n while_o they_o will_v have_v it_o call_v the_o christian_a catholic_n church_n and_o the_o pope_n the_o head_n of_o the_o same_o the_o next_o point_n that_o antichrist_n be_v to_o be_v seek_v there_o and_o not_o among_o the_o jew_n turk_n &_o pagan_n be_v a_o fallacy_n from_o a_o insufficient_a division_n for_o all_o out_o of_o the_o true_a church_n be_v not_o jew_n or_o turk_n or_o pagan_n there_o be_v a_o four_o to_o make_v up_o the_o mess_n even_o popish_a antichristian_o and_o among_o these_o be_v the_o man_n of_o sin_v to_o be_v find_v though_o with_o a_o visar_fw-la on_o his_o face_n and_o a_o sheepskin_n on_o his_o back_n in_o the_o true_a church_n he_o have_v sometime_o be_v find_v range_v as_o a_o wolf_n but_o not_o reign_v as_o a_o god_n which_o in_o his_o own_o temple_n he_o do_v where_o he_o be_v acknowledge_v 10._o our_o lord_n god_n the_o pope_n and_o h_o thou_o be_v a_o other_o god_n on_o earth_n and_o 22._o to_o believe_v that_o our_o lord_n god_n the_o pope_n may_v not_o decree_v as_o he_o have_v decree_v it_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o heresy_n and_o 7._o o_o thou_o that_o take_v away_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n have_v mercy_n upon_o we_o with_o other_o like_a intolerable_a blasphemy_n three_o they_o say_v antichrist_n take_v not_o away_o whole_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o every_o truth_n and_o ordinance_n of_o the_o lord_n i_o answer_v neither_o do_v the_o devil_n take_v away_o whole_o every_o truth_n and_o ordinance_n of_o god_n from_o among_o the_o hethen_n but_o they_o retain_v many_o rite_n of_o god_n worship_v receive_v from_o their_o father_n gloâ—_n as_o before_o 70._o be_v note_v yet_o in_o very_a deed_n so_o much_o as_o in_o they_o lay_v and_o we_o stand_v with_o the_o safety_n of_o their_o deceitful_a kingdom_n the_o devil_n of_o old_a and_o antichrist_n his_o son_n of_o late_a have_v seek_v whole_o to_o take_v away_o the_o church_n &_o truth_n of_o god_n and_o to_o put_v lie_n in_o the_o place_n but_o god_n have_v nourish_v the_o woman_n his_o church_n in_o the_o wilderness_n from_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o serpent_n rev._n 12.14_o and_o for_o further_a answer_n hereof_o let_v we_o hear_v what_o m._n johnson_n
be_v one_o in_o substance_n concern_v faith_n in_o christ_n unto_o salvation_n hâ—b_n 11._o show_v also_o great_a difference_n between_o their_o condition_n and_o we_o touch_v the_o clear_a manifestation_n of_o god_n grace_n and_o the_o outward_a polity_n of_o the_o church_n heb._n 9_o &_o 10._o &_o 12._o gal._n 4._o final_o these_o thing_n we_o never_o intend_v or_o extend_v to_o any_o further_a right_n or_o liberty_n of_o the_o people_n now_o than_o we_o find_v evident_o teach_v we_o by_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n 10._o of_o th'apostle_n that_o if_o in_o any_o thing_n we_o miss_v as_o easy_o we_o may_v in_o the_o application_n of_o those_o legal_a type_n yet_o the_o doctrine_n confirm_v by_o other_o plain_n scripture_n remain_v sound_a and_o good_a and_o such_o difference_n between_o israel_n and_o we_o we_o also_o have_v put_v in_o our_o more_o ancient_a write_n discover_v pag._n 40._o &_o 60._o their_o last_o note_n be_v in_o effect_n one_o with_o the_o first_o show_v how_o 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