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A lerned epistle of M. Iohn Fraser: Bachler of Diuinitie to the ministers of Great Britanie Wherin he sheweth that no man ought to subscribe to their confession of faith. And that their presumed authorite to excommunicate anie man, especially Catholiques, is vaine and foolish.
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Fraser, John, d. 1605.
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lawfull power to receaue them and to enroll them among the Children of God and heauenly citizens If they wold not yet heare you ye might according to Christs command shake the dust of your feete and leaue their blood vpoÌ„ their owen heades except perchance ye wold patiently abyde their conuersion to God seing that some ar called and do 〈◊〉 in the â—ords viniaâ—d in the morning some at midday some in the â—uening and at last all ar new â—tded for their lâ—bours â—o the which none ar constrained Ye know that faith is a gift of God it câ—n not be found eâ—â—ry where Spirituâ— vbâ— vulâ— spirâ—t it de pended 〈◊〉 vpon our will nor â—eurs to make men belâ—â—ue the veriâ—ie that appeâ—â—inâ—d to God onely volâ—ntas â—oginoâ— pâ—â—estâ—◠〈◊〉 is God onely who may change the hardnes of mens heaâ—â—es Why will ye force men seing we deny free will If ye say as ye think why vâ—ge ye men as if they had it excuse me if I propose sic thinges seing I do it following your hâ—mour and strange opinions I 〈◊〉 some exemple either of ouâ— maister â—esus Christ oâ— of his Aposâ—los where either 〈◊〉 or Gentill euer was constrained to acknowledge the gospell oâ— excommunicated â—f â—he wold non I will graunt to 〈◊〉 very freely that all men who will not acknowledge the true kirkâ— and lawfull pastourâ— aâ— with out the communion and paâ—kâ— of Iesuâ— Christ but not â—uâ— out of thâ— communion of 〈◊〉 park of Iesus Christ because as I haue said now often they were neâ—er within iâ— And therefore the Apostles and â—hâ—ir 〈◊〉 did euer ciuilie coÌ„uerse with the â—othe preaching and teaching the veâ—itiâ— where by our for fathers were conâ—erted to God but neuer admitted them to be present at Goddes sâ—râ—ice till they hade left their errour were instrâ—cted in the trueth and so receâ—ned in the bosome of the kirk aâ— true Christians should be If the Apostles had deâ—aâ—red fromâ— their companie all men who woâ—d not incontinent embrace their doctâ—ine I think they â—â—hold not haue 〈◊〉 so mâ—ny as they haue donne In their paâ—ienâ—e they ouercame the world wonnâ— the faâ—ouâ— of their enemies assured the faithfull bâ—aâ—â—gled the infidelâ—es seeing them die so coâ—â—dgeously for the veâ—iâ—ie that they preached at last left ouâ— for fathers peaceable in the kirk of God which certainely was a heauenly work donne by naturall instâ—unâ—enâ—es indued with supernaturall graces and vertues infused by the holie Spirite in the hearâ—â—s of â—â—ue and lawâ—ull pastoâ—â—s to confound all worldly wiâ—dome and bring vs wiâ—h simplicitie and obedience to eternall blisse In plâ—ce of which godly modestie and meeknes ye employ your reformed force and violence shewing that ye had â—eâ—â—her make them â—e made martyres where in by many degrees ye sâ—â—passâ— the cruell barbâ—â—â—â— of the Turkes impatiâ—t auâ— importune in all your actioÌ„s yet according to your discipline which is against all good discipline impellens quidquid sibi summa petenti obsisâ—it gâ—udensque vâ—am â—ecisse ruina Magnámque cadeâ—â— magnámque reuertens datâ—stragem latè sparsosque recollâ—giâ— ignes 16. Thus faire for them who all waiâ—e haue remamed Catholikes as to others who haue at any tyme yeelded to you being â—ither forced or deceiued by you good reason requireth that they be sett at libertie as before Doubtles the law will declare all sic men as free frome all obligation to you as they who neuer were yours because of the violence and deceit ye haue vsed principallie seing it is so faâ—re against the honour of God the Kinges Maiesties serviâ—e and publik honestie and yoú to be punished as publik transgressours of diuine and humaine lawes If ye will haue men obliged to your doctrine and discipline sett vp new play proceeâ— with honest lawfull and godly meanes without bothe fraud force errour or treason take an ordinarie sure calling or proue wel your extraordinarie and then who hatâ— once acknowledged you punish him â— your discretion and according to your lawes if he reuolt frome you But now as maters goeth although I were a zealous brother yet as faithfull Christian and true subiect I wold be gladd to be excommunicated out of your companie where treason and heresies ar confirmed with subscriptioÌ„s and solemne oathes 18. Now to end with you I will yet make you an offer as I think very reasonable which is this Seing ye wil haue no thing that cometh of the Catholik Apostolik and Romaine Kirk as being infected with superstition and Idolatrie nor acknowledge the Pape because ye esteeme him the Antichrist and therefor will haue no counceill gathered by him do like good vigilant pastours assemble your selues by whose authoritie ye please hold an vniuersall synode among your reformed brethren of all sortes through out the whole reformed world without beginning and ending that there appeere no superiorite make a round table speek al at once dispute vpon the controuerted heads agree among your selues and we shall agree with you what can ye ask more of vs if no accorde can be hade among you how can we agree with you Consenting with any one companie we shall haue all the rest for enemies and shall not be assured if the partie that we haue followed will stand long at his owen opinion Or if ye think this offer of greater expenses then esperance we will make you another to agree with you subscribe your conâ—ession of faith if ye can shew that euer there was any empire Kingdome canton citie toune village or cothouse yea any single man Catholik or heretik young or old lerned or ignorant professing your doctrine and gouuerned by your discipline before this last hondred yeares If ye refuse this offers iudge your selues what the reformed flock may think of you Abyding your answere I will mak here an end and pray God to gif vs his eternall blesse and to you where by ye may atteine to the same a faith that may stand with your duetie to God and Prince and with Christian charitie Fare well Artis igâ—arus Knoâ— In his speech to parlament In the sessions presbiteries synodes generall couÌ„sels Mat. 10 Frere Iohn Crag fleeing out of Italie froÌ„ the Catholikâ— being as he said in need he receaued a pourse frome â— black dogge iudge yâ— of that viaticum Theâ—log C. luâ—nist lâ—b 2. sol 135. Bâ— Za in epistol thâ—olog de notis Eccâ—â—siae Iust lib. 4 â—ap 1. â— 9. De notis Ecclâ—siae Ye ar thâ— first that euâ—r did proposâ— negatioÌ„â— for a faith 3. book the kinges cap. 13. Sempâ—â— discenteâ— nunquam ad scieÌ„tiam veritatis peruenienteâ— 2. ad Timoth â— 7.