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A86649 The fiery darts of the divel quenched; or, Something in answer to a book called, a second beacon fired, presented to the Lord Protector, and the Parliament, and subscribed by Luke Fawne, John Rothwel, Samuel Gellibrand, Thomas Underhill, Joshua Kirton, Nathaniel Web. Wherin, their lies and slanders are made manifest against the innocent, and those books which have been published by them they call Quakers, owned and vindicated, and all the rest which is in that book disowned, and their deceite laid open; how they have perverted the truth and our words in those books which they cry out of as blasphemy, that the truth may not suffer under the reproach of the heathen. / By one who is a witnesse for the truth against Gog and Magog, called after the flesh, Francis Howgil. Also something in answer to a booke called a voice from the Word of the Lord, by one John Griffith, against us, whom the world calls Quakers, wherein his false accusations is denied, and he proved to be a slanderer, and the truth cleared from his scandals. By one who is a witnesse against the deceits of the world, called Edward Burrough. Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669.; Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. 1654 (1654) Wing H3159; Thomason E817_16; ESTC R207383 23,227 35

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of the bookes in the Beacon fired wee disowne them but I believe you have belied them as you have done ours A Certaine Book being come forth into the world ful of lies and slanders against the innocent called A voice from the word of the Lord to those grand impostors called Quakers to the Author of which book who calls himselfe J●hn Griffith a servant of Christ and to all to whomsoever it may come I am moved to write something in Answer that his lies and slanders and false r●proaches may be made manifest and that he may proceed no further for as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses so doth he resist the truth being a man of a corrupt mind and reprobate concerning faith and is not a Servant of Christ nor a witnesse for his name but a child of disobedience in whom the Prince of the aire rules And first to the title of thy book I Answer the word of the Lord is powerful and wil cut thee down thou sensual minded man yet thou knowest not but takes the words of others declared from the word vvhich vvas in them and thou useth thy tongue and saith the Lord saith it but I say unto thee the Lord hath not spoken unto thee neither commanded thee to speak of his name and I charge it upon thee in the presence of the Lord God of life that thou art of that generation which Jeremiah was sent to cry against Jer. 23. 31. for thou speakes thy imaginations upon their words which dwelt in the life of God but the life thou knowest not and thy whole book is no more but an empty sound and voice is as the untimely fruit of the womb which wil wither and perish away and one of them I am whom thou calls Quakers to whom thou saist thou directs thy speech but that wee are grand impostors I do denie for we are gathered up into the life which the holy men of God lived and are fallen from the world and from its wayes and nature and I charge thee here to be a slanderer and from the mouth of the Lord I do declare unto thee that thou must have a slanderers reward And vvheras thou saist thou hast discovered their fleshly and filthy mindednesse together vvith the judgments of God attending them I Answer Fleshly and filthy mindednesse we have denied by the Power of the Sonne of God made manifest in us thou hast laid it to our charge but thou hast not proved it nor discovered it and here againe thou art a false accuser fleshly and filthy mindedness shal stand for thy ovvne condition for there thou art in the flesh and filth living to thy vvil in the lust of uncleanesse for you may remember thou came out of the bowling Allie to our meeting though Pharisee like thy out side is painted and made clean but thy heart is ful of enmity and lies and slanders and false reproaches to that in thy conscience I do speake which shal for ever vvitnesse me and as for the judgments of the Lord upon thy own head wil they fal and with what measure thou metes it shal be measured to thee again we are passed from judgment and from the condemnation and who art thou thon enemy of righteousnesse that shal lay any thing to the charge of Gods elect And whereas thou saiest thou art one that bears witnesse against those wandring starres I answer this shal stand for thy owne condition a wandring star thou art and hath no habitation in the heaven but speaks swelling words of vanity thou thy self being a servant of corruption we have an abinding place and an habitation in the Lord and are not wandring and here againe I charge thee to be a false accuser and a false witnesse who bears witnesse of thy selfe for the Father bears no witnesse of thee but against thee Whereas thou saist the most high God that made the heavens and the earth hath moved thee and stirred thee up to bear witnesse to the truth and to witnesse against the abmoinable fleshly mindednesse and yet spiritual pride of those grand impostors called Quakers by whose sorceries many are bewitched and drawn from the simplicity of the gospell to another gospel which is not another Gospel but the vanity of their owne minds and their owne fleshly and corrupt thoughts which they cry up as Oracles of God I answer The most high God judge between thee and us whose wrath is kindled against thee thou enemie of righteousnesse and child of wrath thou hast belied the Lord of heaven and earth for to this he moved thee not for he moves none to utter lies and slanders as thou hast done but the spirit of enmity and of the Divil hath moved thee and to the truth thou beares no witnesse but against the truth and against the innocent and charges us with fleshly mindednesse and spirituall pride O thou lier and false accuser the Lord who takes our part against thee will plead with thee and render upon thy head according to thy deedes prove what thou speaks that we are fleshly minded and spiritually proud or else let thy mouth be stopped and shame cover thee for ever sorceries and witchcraft and drawing from the simplicity of the Gospel wee doe deny but the plaine single truth wee doe declare by which the eye of the blind is opened in many to see your deceits who call your selves Churches and Preachers of the Gospel which is not the Gospel that the Apostles preached but an adding your own Imaginations upon their words who witnessed the Gospel and it shal stand for thy own condition thou art in the sorcery and witchraft who draws people to observe an outward visible thing from the light of Christ within them which leades to the simplicity of the Gospel which is inward and not outward and thou art in thy fleshly and corrupt thoughts crying up the Ordinances and Oracles of God which are but carnal and beggerly rudiments of the world which passeth away and here thou art seen and made manifest in the light of Christ to be a hypocrite who false accuses others of that which thou art guilty of thy selfe the same Gospel as ever was doe we declare and not another which wee received not from man neither was taught it by man and as the Oracles of God it shall stand for ever for a witnesse against thee and all the world who doth not believe for even the Father beares witnesse of us and therefore our witnesse is true and the righteous God will plead with thee thou lyar and false accuser and here be a witnesse against thy selfe that the Lord moved thee not but the Divil acting in thy owne imaginations and in the vanity of thy one minde and in thy one fleshly and corrupt thoughts and whereas thou sayest to us thou directs thy speech from the Lord thus saith the Lord to thee O Quaker thou art fleshly minded I answer It is not the voyce of the Lord to us that
living God I speak in clearing the innocent from thy false slanders and it shall stand for thy owne condition fleshly corrupt and sensuall minded and the working of the mysterie of iniquity And herein I prove thee to be so by thy fruits thy lies and false reproaches and envious false acusation which is the fruites of the flesh and of corrupt sensuall mindednesse which fruits doth appeare in this thy writing and as for the mysterie of godlinesse it is hidden from thee and in that mind and nature you shall never know it for thou lives in the sight of thy owne pollutions and of thy carnal ordinances and not in the injoyment of the mysterie of Christ which is godlinesse and whereas thou saiest yee may rejoyce and in nothing be terrified because the Scriptures did foretel of such and is fulfilled in these men and thou brings many Scriptures where Christ and the Apostles prophesied of the coming in of false prophets and teachers I answer Though yee do now rejoyce yet your joy shall be turned into howling and sorrow and the Lord hath said it and the day of terrour will overtake you wherein your hearts shal faile you for feare and your foundation shall be removed and it is true that the Scripture doth foretell of us and is witnessed in us that all the Lords children should be taught of the Lord and that the Lord would gather his flock out of the mouths of all dum be shepherds c. and according to our growth up in the life of the Scriptures they are fulfilled in us but false prophets wee do deny though all those Scriptures which thou hast set downe we owne to be prophesies of false prophets those false prophets which Christ prophesied of came in the Apostles dayes they saw them coming in then 1. Joh. 2. 18. and as all these Scriptures testifies which thou hast cited and since the Apostles daies hath beene a great Apostacie and not a true Church of Christ could be found and ever since hath the same generation of false prophets stood under several forms and appearances deceiving the nations but now the pure light of Christ shines discovering to them who walke in the light who they are and daily more and more clearly shall they be seene and thou wilt be found in their number who art a cursed child in whom the son of perdition is exalted which utters forth thy lies and slanders sensually and make it manifest to all that thou hast not the spirit of God but art separated from it in self separation which is abomination unto God and must be scattered by him and whereas thou saiest seeing it is so let you be filled with boldnesse and let you contend against those ungodly ones which are now risen I answer ungodlinesse wee deny and your boldnesse shall the Lord turne in weaknesse and faintnesse and your contendings against us shall not prosper for this is our heritage every tongue that riseth up in judgement shal be condemned you shall all be scattered and driven away as chaffe before the wind who sets your selves to contend against the truth for that which is now risen shall confound you all And whereas thou brings many Scriptures which were exhortations of the Apostle to the saints with exhorting thy brethren I answer The Scriptures I do owne and that spirit which spake them forth I witnesse but thou art an enemie to the power of them though thou have the forme of truth thy lying and false accusing hath made thee appear to be an enemie to the life which the holy men of God lived in and so hath cleared thy selfe from those Scriptures which were written to the Saints and must owne those which was written to the world the lier must be cast into the lake the wicked must bee turned in hell and such as these must thou owne to belong unto thee and these are thy Scriptures which thou hast right unto And whereas thou saiest wee talke of high enjoyments and great revelations without above and beyond the Scripture and that wee talke of a light which is besides the Scripture but it is deepe and thick darknesse and what hath such lights led men unto even contempt of God and of all righteousnesse I answer Here again thou art found a lier and an accuser of the brethren for what wee do declare the Scripture witnesses to the same and wee speake of nothing but what is declared of in the Scripture by the holy men of God and neither without it nor above or beyond it do wee speake I challenge thee to prove what thou hast asserted and all the City of London that we speak or declares any thing but what the Scriptures bears witnesse to the same and the light which wee declare of is the light of Christ which the scripture saith lightneth every one that comes into the world and it is not besides the scripture so as contrary to it but the scripture bears witnesse of the light and ●ere I charge thee with blasphemie who calles the pure light of Christ thick darknesse and that the light of Christ which is the light which wee declare of hath led men or leads any to contemne God or his ordinances or righteousnesse let shame strike thee in the face thou impudent one who blasphemously say that the light of Christ is thick darkness and leads into contempt of God let the light in thy owne conscience condemne thee thou enemie of God for thy lies and slanders and blasphemie which in this thy booke thou hast uttered and wheras thou exhortest to labour to see an excellency in Christ in the word of Christ and in the Church and Ordinances of Christ I answer For the simple ones sake that they may not be deceived none ever shall see any excellencie in those things but who ownes and walkes in the light of Christ which lets every one see themselves first and your talking of the same and report of Christ and of his Word and Ordinances is not to know the excellencie of those things for death in you talkes of the same but the thing in subst●nce you are ignorant of and you who stumbles at the light wherewith Christ lightneth every one are above the doore which is the entrance unto the life of these things and so I exhort all to mind the light of Christ and to walk in it and it will lead unto Christ from whence the light comes and it wil lead to the fulfilling of Christs words and to the one bread and to the one baptisme and the light is the door and entrance unto the life of those things but you who hate the light and denies it to be in every one hath but the huske and outward declaration of those things and are without the life and wheras thou saist they that are of God wil hear John Peter and Paul and the rest that were the servants of Christ not the fleshly conceits of those or any other men Christs sheep
speaks in thee but the voyce of the Divil and the Serpent which speaks from thee fleshly minded we are not but are redeemed out of it and our mindes are changed and are Spiritual and 't is the Spirit of the living God seales unto us and witnesses in us and here thou art of thy Father the old Dragon an accuser of the Bretheren but it is God that justifies and who art thou that condemns and this thy speech is seene and comprehended which thou hast directed to us and it is judged by the spirit of true judgment to be a false accusation and a lie and not the word of the Lord and into the lake amongst the false Prophets thou art to be turned who useth thy tongue when the Lord never spake to thee and thou saiest we looke upon the Institution of Christs Supper with a fleshly and carnal eye because wee say that the bread and wine which Christ commanded his Disciples to eate and to drinke is carnall I Answer The bread and wine is visible and carnal and fleshly and not Spiritual nor Eternal and in the eternall light by the Spiritual eye of God opened in us we see them and do owne that it was a command of Christ to stand for its time and no more but a carnal figure of a spiritual thing and the spiritual thing being the substance bearing witnesse the figure is denyed and declared against and thou and thy generation who art acting in those things by tradition tying and limiting God to a visible thing that without it no salvation art in the sorcerie and witchraft and an enemie to the substance for Christ never since he was sacrifised brake of the bread or dranke of the cup with his Disciples but new in his Fathers kingdome and thou who art in the carnal figure acting those things without the injoyment of Christ art sensual and by the light of Christ is to be condemned and juged with the world who art without God and without the injoyment of Christ in the beggerly rudiments of the world thou saist O fleshly minded men whom the God of this world hath blinded because you believe not and thou sayst thus saith the Lord and speaks the Prophet Mal. words to which I answer this again I do deny the God of the world is cast out and the eye is opened through judgment and our fleshly minds are judged and in the Name of Jesus we do believe and our belief in him hath purified our hearts to the praise of the living God who hath wrought all our works in us and for us do I speake without boasting and here againe I charge it upon thee that thou art a slanderer and a false accuser and let shame cover thee who professes thy selfe to be a teacher of others who thy selfe is not taught of the Lord but steals Malachies words and speaks them to us in thine own imaginations and calls it the word of the Lord the Lord is against thee thou false prophet who prophesies lies in his name and that which thou speaks to us is thy owne condition and that which shall come upon thine own head for a child of disobedience thou art and thy eye is blinded by the God of this world and whereas thou saiest wee are spiritually proud that give forth our selves to bee some great ones and wee say wee are Apostles and are not but are found liers proud Pharisees hypocrites that say wee are just holy humble and the poor sinful publicans are more justified then wee I answer proud wee are not our God shall judge between thee and us in this thing for wee have nothing but what wee have freely received from him and that we give forth our selves to be great ones here thou art a lier and a false accuser again this we have said and do yet again declare that we were moved of the Lord of heaven and earth to come to declare his mind and his truth in this City but this is no boasting and by that same spirit which was in the Apostles were wee moved and are guided and by no other but who hath found us liers since wee came I challenge you and all thy sect to prove one lie that wee have uttered or else let shame cover thee and let thy mouth be stopped and let thy owne heart condemne thee to be found the lier thy selfe and this we testifie against thee and all the world that by Jesus and in him are wee made holy just and humble he is made these things in us and for us and the publican state is witnessed by us who have passed through the figure and parable into the life and substance and whereas thou saist wee that boast of our light within and faith thus saith the Lord and brings Christs words I answer this is another lie wee doe not boast of our light within but vvee vvitnesse it to bee within us and to have enlightned every one that comes into the vvorld vvhich thou and thy generation denies and so vvould make Christ a lier and the Scripture a lie but against you all with all the vvorld vve beare testimony and the Father beares vvitnesse with us that every man that comes into the world is lightned by the light of Christ which teaches all that love it into righteousnesse but condemns them that hate it wherof thou art one who utters forth thy lies and slanders and false accusations against the innocent and that Scripture John 9. we owne and do witnesse to be fulfilled in us by the coming of Christ hee which did see is blind and hee which was blind now sees and while wee did see our sin remained but being blind wee have no sinne but this to thee and to thy spirit is a mystery sealed and never to be known in that nature and wisdome and here againe thou hast used thy tongue false Prophet like and must receive a false prophets reward And whereas thou saist if Christ had not spoke to us in his word we had had no sin but now wee have no cloak for our sinne I answer Christs words we owne but here thou art made manifest to all to be an adder to the Scripture in his word this thou hast added false Prophet-like and therefore the Lord will adde his plagues unto thee as the Scripture saith bee ashamed and blush thy folly and wickednesse is made manifest who is not ashamed to carry on thy designe to adde to Christs words And whereas thou saiest wee do not only neglect the weightier matters of the law but the law it selfe teaching men so to doe for wee said that the Scripture is not the rule of faith and conversation as one of us taught Sept. 27. in thy hearing and many others that will witnesse it I answer here I challenge thee to prove that thou hast spoken and all thy witnesses which thou speakes of oh thou lier be ashamed to forge such lies and declare them in writing for truth we neglect not the
weightier matters of the law nor the law nor teach any so to do all that ever heard us wil bear witnesse against thee and they though our enemies shal witnesse for us and against thee in this thing for we declare the everlasting Gospel which is the fulfilling of the law and this we declare that the law must have its operation through before the Gospel be witnessed and one of thy owne society said to us wee had preached the law and brought men to understand it from grace now let all take notice of the confusion you live in and let your owne hearts condemne you and the light in your owne consciences convince you that you are in Babylon and in confusion and are no true Church of Christ where all are of one heart and one mind and this againe I affi●me as before I did in thy hearing that the Scripture is not the Saints rule but the Spirit which gave forth the Scripture as the Scripture it self witnesses Rom. 8. Faith was before the Scripture was and therfore the Scripture is not the ground of it but a declaration of it and no other faith we owne but the faith which Abel had and which Moses had which was when no Scripture was written and that we own to be the rule of our conversation which they walked by the immediate spirit of God which was before the Scripture was written and all you who professe the Scripture to be your rule your own rule shal testifie against you when the eternal God judges you and they vvho vvitness that to bee their rule which gave forth the Scripture walkes up in the life of the Scripture more then you all and you are proved to be but the Jew outward who bosts of the Ordinances from the letter but persecutes them by slanders and false reproaches who witnesse the substance and your praise is only of men and not of God and the same woe which thou pronounces upon us wil fall upon thy owne head for this thy grievous slander that we neglect the law and teach men so to do and whereas thou brings many Scriptures and saith thus saith the Lord I answer the Scriptures we owne and by that spirit which speaks them forth wee witnesse them to be true and they are ours and though you say they are the savour of death to us that perish yet thou art found a lier for wee are saved out of the perishing state and death is destroyed through death and thou hast diminished through faith from that Scripture 2 Tim. 3. 15. false prophet like againe and so art both an adder and a diminisher and thou maist read thy portion in Rev. 22. 18 19. and whereas thou saiest know this thou perverter of the right way of God thou shalt bee judged by the word of Christ spoke I answer here thou sets the Scripture in the roome of Christ and art the perverter of the right way of God thy selfe for the Scripture saith all judgement is commited to the Sonn and the Scripture is not the Sonne and thou didst say and now againe writes that the Scripture shall judge the vvorld and so I charge it upon thee that thou art a blasphemer vvho exalts the Scripture above the Sonne of God and shalt be judged by the Sonne into utter drrknesse and into the pit from vvhence thou art come yet this I testifie he that receives the Sonne rejecteth not those vvords vvhich vvas spoken by him though thou and thy generation Pharisee like may make a profession of the vvords vvhich Christ spoke and yet reject the Sonne and all to vvhom Christ speaks vvhich receives him not shall be judged by the vvord vvhich he speaks for he speaks eternally which shal stand eternally but when did he speake to thee for this I doe declare thou maist have those words which he spoke and yet never have heard his word nor voice as the Pharisees had those words which God spake by the Prophets but never had heard his word nor seen his shape John 5. and thou saist quake and tremble at this that word which you reject and dispise shall judge you at the last day and saith thus saith the Lord and brings Christs words and the Apostles words I Answer the Lord rebuke thee thou scorner here thou hast made the filthynesse of thy heart knowne for out of the abundance thereof thy mouth speaks here thou art seen to be a scorner quaking and trembling we own it is that which the holy men of God witnessed but here be a witnesse against thy self that thou art a scorner of their conditions what hast thou to doe to talk of the Scrip●ure who art scorning that which it declares of here thou art made manifest to be one that hath the form but denies the power and scornes at it God scornes thee thou scornful one and let all that feare the Lord depart from thee and see thy filthinesse and search the Scripture whether it testifies not of that which thou scornes at and makes a mock upon And that we reject and despise the Scripture and the words which Christ spake which thou accusest us of this is another lie and a false slander for the scriptures vve ovvne in their place and by the Spirit of God sets to seale that they are true but that they shall judge the vvorld vvee doe deny and herein thy ignorance doth appear and that thou art blinded by the God of this vorld which thou vvould cast upon us and Christs vvords and the vvords of the Apostles shall fall upon thy own head for vengeance in flames of fire will the Lord render upon thee thou lier and slanderer and false accuser who art in disobedience to the Gospel of God And whereas thou saist the Lord hath spoken it and it shall surely come to passe and bringst many Scriptures I Ansvver The Scriptures vve ovvn and vvhat is spoken in them shall be fulfiled but thou lier when did God speake this to thee the judgements pronounced in them shall fall upon thy ovvn head because thou art guilty of the same iniquities as they vvere of against vvhom these Scriptures vvas declared and wheras thou saist we are those that the Lord before hath spoken of in his vvord and therefore no marvel vve vvould not have men to reade it and cites the 2. of Peter 2. Chap. I Ansvver I doe in the presence of the living God deny thee thy false assertion but it shal stand for thy owne condition thou art one in the generation which Christ spake of and that vvas in the Apostles dayes which hath the forme but denies the power as they had and I charge thee againe with a lie in thy mouth who saith we would not have men to read the Scriptures they who have heard us shall witnesse against thee that wee do direct to search the Scripture whether our doctrine be not true and by the Scripture shal our doctrine be tried how long wilt thou utter thy lies in the