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A06635 Via tuta the safe vvay. Leading all Christians, by the testimonies, and confessions of our best learned aduersaries, to the true, ancient, and catholique faith, now professed in the Church of England. By Humfrey Lynde Knight. Lynde, Humphrey, Sir. 1628 (1628) STC 17097; ESTC S109009 96,512 358

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