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B22558 The Popish labyrinth wherein is made manifest, that the Papists are entangled in the fundamental article of their faith, that the church cannot erre / written in Dutch by ... Dr. Simon Episcopius, unto which is added, The life and death of the author ; as also, The life and death of James Arminius, both of them famous defenders of God Episcopius, Simon, 1583-1643.; Bertius, Petrus, 1565-1629. Oratio in obitum reverendi & clarissimi viri D. Jacobi Arminii. English.; Chardon de Courcelles, Etienne, 1705-1775? Short and compendious history of Simon Episcopius. 1673 (1673) Wing E3163 56,195 122

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papist_n or_o by_o which_o title_n they_o love_v to_o be_v call_v the_o catholic_n when_o any_o dispute_n be_v have_v with_o they_o we_o ordinary_o meet_v with_o these_o two_o sort_n of_o men._n the_o first_o sort_n be_v twofold_a some_o fear_v not_o roundly_o and_o with_o full_a mouth_n to_o affirm_v that_o they_o will_v not_o be_v teach_v better_a but_o that_o they_o will_v tooth_n and_o nail_n and_o obstinate_o stick_v to_o their_o own_o opinion_n insomuch_o that_o though_o they_o shall_v see_v with_o their_o eye_n that_o the_o wall_n be_v white_a yet_o nevertheless_o they_o will_v believe_v their_o church_n so_o believe_v and_o judge_v that_o it_o be_v black_a because_o be_v force_v by_o necessity_n they_o find_v that_o they_o must_v so_o speak_v whereupon_o although_o they_o find_v by_o all_o their_o sense_n that_o be_v see_v smell_v taste_n feel_v hear_v that_o the_o bread_n in_o the_o eucharist_n be_v nothing_o but_o bread_n yet_o notwithstanding_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v willing_a to_o believe_v that_o it_o be_v not_o bread_n but_o only_o the_o accident_n of_o bread_n which_o can_v be_v taste_v touch_v or_o smell_v not_o consider_v that_o themselves_o do_v by_o this_o mean_n give_v very_o many_o cause_n to_o doubt_v of_o every_o thing_n and_o so_o to_o call_v in_o question_n the_o chief_a foundation_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a religion_n that_o be_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o resurrection_n of_o jesus_n christ_n from_o the_o dead_a which_o be_v build_v on_o this_o foundation_n that_o the_o apostle_n and_o disciple_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o among_o these_o thomas_n otherwise_o not_o over-credulous_a perceive_v jesus_n christ_n with_o all_o their_o sense_n see_v handle_v hear_v and_o veiw_v he_o near_o to_o they_o judge_v that_o that_o very_a thing_n ought_v to_o be_v a_o irrefragable_a argument_n to_o themselves_o and_o to_o the_o whole_a world_n for_o to_o believe_v that_o christ_n rise_v from_o the_o dead_a not_o in_o show_n and_o appearance_n 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