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A64791 The vain insolency of Rome, challenging salvation to her own faction discovered in two letters : the first whereof was written by a priest of the Church of Rome to a gentlewoman of York, that had got out of the snares of the popish superstition : the second sent by the same gentlewoman (instructed by a divine of the Church of England) in answer thereunto. Priest of the Church of Rome.; Gentlewoman of York. 1673 (1673) Wing V18; ESTC R5313 8,557 40

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all affrighted at your denial of Salvation to all out of Saint Peter 's Fold I am sure that all penitent Believers are of the Fold of Christ in which except St. Peter himself had been a Sheep as well as a Pastour under the great Shepherd he had undoubtedly perished He preached as well and as good doctrine at other places as he did at Rome and the rest of the Holy Apostles wheresoever they preached delivered the same truths that he did to the Church of Christ If Rome in succeeding times by being the seat of the Emperours became a more eminent City than her Sisters and the Bishops of it obtained any extraordinary priviledges by their favours all these things are extrinsecal to the substance of the Christian Faith which when Rome ceased to deliver in that purity wherein St. Peter taught it she can with no better pretensions lay claim to Saint Peter than the Jews of old did to Moses Whom Christ tells notwithstanding all their boasting in him that they did not believe his writings And truly I think the same might now be said in several instances to those of Rome in reference to St. Peter of whom she glorieth Had they believed St. Peters writings they would never condemn those Churches as Heretical which in no point deny them I do not Sir profess my self able to contest with one of your profession neither have I to provoke you to disputation written so large an answer to your few lines But Saint Peter to whose Fold you invite me and in whose Fold not excluding the rest of his Fellow-Apostles for the names of all the Twelve were written in the twelve foundations of the Holy Jerusalem Apocal. 21. 14. because we adhere to his doctrine we believe that we of the Church of England now live giveth me warrant to speak what I here declare when he thus exhorteth us 1 Epist Chap. 3. Vers 15. Be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear In that meekness and fear thus commended unto us by ours as well as your Saint Peter nay more ours than yours nay give me leave to say it ours and not yours in our matters of difference I humbly give you this Answer and rest Sir Novemb. 27. 1672. Your assured Friend and humble Servant in Christ Postscript Sir BEcause you tell me in effect that I must be damned if I should die out of the Communion of your Church give me leave in regard that I am not so well able to argue rationally as to observe Historical passages which sometimes are Commentaries upon disputable truths to acquaint you with a short History which I minded when I heard it the more heedfully because it discharged me from that fear which your Severity is apt to beget in the minds of unsettled Protestants 'T is this and you will find it as my Friend who translated it out of Latin for me assureth me in the third part of Solomon Glassius his exposition of the Gospels page 277 and 278. Jacobus Latomus was in exceeding great reputation amongst the Divines of our time because he had written against the Lutherans somewhat more learnedly than either Clitopheus or Eckius or Roffensis and all thought him a person of candour and that he had written according to the conviction of his own conscience This Person when he drew near his death commanded our Masters to be called and as they stood by him with groans and deeep-fetcht sighs said I therefore commanded you to be called that I might testifie unto you that the doctrine of Luther which you furiously persecute is the true doctrine of Christ the Apostles and the Church and this which you defend is impious and diabolical and I my self for certain writings of mine which I have lately against the conviction of my conscience and knowledge set forth against the Lutherans to gratifie you am a damned man When in horrour and astonishment at this speech they looked one on another and those that were more ingenuous exhorted him not to dispair of the mercy of God although he were perswaded that he had done wickedly He commemorating many passages concerning the punishments and exile of godly men who by his instigation were either slain or banished at last with groanings added in vain you labour to comfort me for I certainly know that I am damned and with these words gave up the Ghost Glassius affirmeth that he received this History out of D. Alesius in his Exposition of the 41 Psalm And truly Sir though you may perhaps condemn it as a Fable yet for my part I am so far from distrusting the truth of it that I wonder that many of your best Scholars do not leave this World in the same convictions and indeed it is very probable that they do and some times declare as much But such confessions are like the Guard of Souldiers Narratives of our Saviours Resurrection they are strangled as the Male-children were commanded to be in Egypt as soon as they are born if not by bribery yet by interest which knows no ingenuity nor will admit of any discoveries against its own concerns though never so pernicious I wish you a better temper and in that hearty desire commend you to the God of truth assuring you that I will never be by Gods assistance moved from the profession of that holy Religion wherein now I stand though I shall ever be ready to testifie my thanks to you for your charitable affections and remain Yours in all Christian affection and service Sir AFter my Letter was written but before it was sealed I considered a little what your Saint Francis Xaverius his merits might be unto whose Patronage you are pleased to commend me I am informed that he is a Saint of a late Canonization first a Proselyte of and then a Confederate with Ignatius de Loyola and truly I think not far from some of his Enthusiastical raptures He with Ignatius indeed got Pope Paul the thirds approbation to be allowed with some others as a Religious Society in the year 1540. But there is an expression in that Popes Letters of Grant which may beget a jealousie that the Pope had an eye to the service he might have from them as well as to the devotion of the men if at least he thought them devout His words I hear run thus We have lately heard that Ignatius de Loyola and Peter Faber and Francis Xaverius c. inspired as 't is piously believed with the Holy Ghost coming from several quarters of the World met together and being confederate into a Society have renounced the snares of this World and for ever devoted their lives to the service of our Lord Jesus Christ and of us and of our successours the Bishops of Rome c. I suppose the Pope might have so much of humane frailty in him as to take all in good part that such sworn Servants of his should enterprise Upon these grounds I believe the following Popes Gregory the fifteenth and his successor Vrbanus the eighth had such high estimation of this Francis insomuch that the one declared him a Saint and the other Canonized him I am told that he had so behaved himself in preaching to the Indians that he is called their Apostle But truly to speak my mind freely to you his atchievements there seem to me very difficult to be believed I doubt whether all the miracles of Christ and his Apostles recorded in the Scripture may be equal to those mentioned in Vrban's Letters for the Canonization of your Xaverius 'T is said in them that he defixed his eyes in his exstatick raptures on the Heavens that his whole body by divine force would be elevated from the earth and his face so inflamed that it would represent Angelical clarity and he would cry out it is enough Lord it is enough And when he said Mass the abomination as 't is now celebrated of your Romish Service as the Learned Doctor Brevint excellently shews us he would be so alienated from his senses which indeed I believe that the Ministers present in the service could not in some competent time by pulling his Garments excite him to his attendance on the Work he had in hand And otherwise the people could observe him advanced wondring at the miracle a Cubit above the earth He wore such tattered Rags and is this a piece of merit that the Boys sometimes would mock and deride him Of the like nature is his frequent walkings on the hot Sands and on Thorns themselves drinking the polluted waters with which he had washed the soars of diseased people And then his ability to speak the Languages which he never learnt and to be understood some times by men of several tongues when he spake one that was strange to the Auditours till he began to preach is as much if not more than what was granted to the blessed Apostles at the Feast of Penticost 'T is strange to me that he should cast a Crucifix into the Sea to still the Waves and stranger yet that having lost it by violence of the storm it should be brought to him as he walked on the Shore in the mouth of a Sea-Crab I marvel though you read this and much more as Romantick in the Popes Letters that you can credit all this done by a person about an hundred years since especially seeing the Learned Fathers about four hundred years after Christ judged the age of miracles to be past and our belief of those only that are recorded in the Holy Scriptures to be sufficient now for our present Satisfaction Besides were the miracles reported to have been done by him true and the man as good as you think him to have been I conceive his intercession for any particular person to be a point uncertain and truly as long as we have the intercession of Christ altogether superfluous I am resolved therefore to leave your Xaverius to the quiet enjoyment of the felicity which he hath obtained if at least he be in a state of bliss and to give him no interruption in any concerns of my Soul FINIS Errata IN the second Page to the Reader l. 20. for third r. fourth vid Concil Lateran sub Innocentio 3 o cap. 3. de Haeretic * Sealed with Crosses * 1 Cor. 1. 3. 2 Cor. 13. 14. * Vid. Regul Jesuitic
THE VAIN INSOLENCY OF ROME Challenging SALVATION to her own FACTION Discovered in Two LETTERS The first whereof was written by a Priest of the Church of Rome to a Gentlewoman of York that had got out of the Snares of the Popish Superstition The second sent by the same Gentlewoman instructed by a Divine of the Church of England in answer thereunto The truth endureth and is always strong it liveth and conquereth for evermore 1 Esdras 4. 38. LONDON Printed for Richard Royston Bookseller to the Kings most Excellent Majesty 1673. TO THE READER REader by the Letter of the Romish Priest which immediately here followeth thou wilt easily perceive with what craft and artifice the Romish Hucksters endeavour to seduce the people of our Church of England and generally all of the Reformation to the Communion of Rome They tell them that they are out of St. Peters Fold and therefore of necessity in a state of damnation The first greatness of Rome was founded in the eminency of the City and the concessions and indulgence of some of the Emperors But the subtile Popes perceiving that what former Emperors granted others in succeeding times might revoke perverted that Text Mat. 16. 18. Tu es Petrus c. Thou art Peter and upon this Rock c. to the founding of a spiritual Monarchy and the claim of both Swords Temporal as well as Spiritual or at least the Temporal in order to the Spiritual And all Jesuited Papists neither see I how any of them that submit to the third Lateran Council can be otherwise minded hold that Princes excommunicated may be rejected by their own Subjects What good effects this New-Gospel doctrine wrought in the World may appear in the instances of the murther of those two noble Kings Henry the Third and Henry the Fourth of France and in that design of the Fifth of November amongst our selves here in England 'T is strange that all Princes in the World are not alarm'd as learned and perspicacious King James of blessed memory was with these doctrines For whatsoever Allegiance the Romanists pretend to yet it is evident that an instance may fall out wherein they will be forced to renownce their obedience either to their Pope or King Take heed therefore if thou art disengaged from this seduction of coming near to such snares and if thou art as alas too many of late amongst us have been caught in them break them with all speed That fearful instance of the Learned Latomus of which thou wilt read in the Gentlewomans answer to the Priest's Letter here annexed will declare that the greatest sticklers for Rome's interest when they shall most need it will find little peace For that may be said of this spiritual which Solomon spake of the carnal Harlot Prov. 7. 26 27 She hath cast down many wounded yea many strong men have been slain by her Her house is the way to Hell going down to the chambers of Death IMPRIMATUR Tho. Tomkyns Ex Aed Lamb. Martii 6. 1672. The Priests Letter Madam SInce my departure from you I have not forgot your engaging Charity what regret may I well have that contrary to your promise in the long Gallery you have forgot your Soul so pretious to God! Madam return home I labour to get your dear Son Pic. to return home You may come home again no loss Madam like the loss of a Soul I should be glad to suffer death that you would accept of life Some years past I was in hopes the charitable Boxes of Lozanges you did send me would bring you in again to St. Peter's Fold out of which no Salvation Sweet Jesus and his unspotted Mother grant you grace to do well by St. Francis Xaverius his intercession Cordially wished by Madam Your engaged well wishing Friend and Servant The Gentlewomans Answer Sir I Received your Letter and though I cannot despise the zeal of your Charity yet I thank God that through his goodness I can now discern the errour of it I wish and truly I account my self bound thereunto in requital of the care which you profess for my Soul that you were your self in as good a way for Salvation in respect of your communion with the Church of Rome as I am upon the account of my return to my dear Mother the Church of England Since I saw you I have a little better considered the Articles of our Church and in them I perceive nothing commended to my Faith but what is either expresly conteined in the Holy Scriptures or deducible by very good consequence from them But I am very well assured by those that know it that in some Councils lately held by your Church and particularly that of Trent there are divers Canons to which you will expect my consent neither agreeable to the Holy Scriptures nor consonant to the purer ages of the Church and yet your Pope Pius the Fourth curseth all that are not of that Faith and excludeth all from Salvation that believe not according to the Tenour of them Bishop Morton was a Learned man and he took pains to examine the grounds of the peremptory decree of that Pope the Book wherein he did it is called the Grand Imposture of the now Church of Rome I pray peruse it heedfully and candidly and submit to the truths conteined therein As for my promise in the Long Gallery whereof you re-mind me I confess my errour in making it and I am told that it being unlawful in the matter I mean to adhere to your corrupt Church my sin of rash engagement would be heightned by performance whereas it is so far from being any to break it that 't is my obligation so to do David rashly swore to destroy all the Males in Nabals Family but by the good counsel of Abigail rather broke his oath than proceeded to add murder to his passion And truly Sir though you may think it presumption in me to give advice to a person of your calling and gravity yet when I consider that David a great Prophet and a King then anointed despised not the good counsel of a woman but said with all meekness Blessed be thy advise and blessed be thou 1 Sam. 25. 33. I shall not repent that I prompt these intimations unto you but rather earnestly yet humbly request you ay and adjure you in the fear of God to break your engagement to that pestilent Society to which perhaps you are as solemnly under the bond of an Oath for that was I hear Pope Pius his injunction to the Clergy to embrace the Trent Faith engaged as David was to avenge himself St. Augustine I have heard was entangled in the heresies of the Manichees and we are taught in the sacred History that St. Paul once persecuted the faith of Christ Both these came by Gods mercy to the sight of their foul errours and at last defended the Faith which they had opposed Some of your present perswasion and in the same degree of Office have seen