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A28865	Observations upon the ordinance of the Lords and Commons at Westminster after advice had with their Assembly of Divines for the ordination of ministers pro tempore, according to their directory for ordination and rule for examination therein expressed.	Boughen, Edward, 1587?-1660?	1645 (1645)	Wing B3815; ESTC R20014	28,236	38

ſ Act. 14.23 by S. Paul and S. Barnabas t 1. Tim. 5.22 by Timothy and u Tit. 1.5 Titus The * Hieron Catal c. 16. two former are known to be Apostles the two latter are acknowledged by all antiquity to be Bishops strictly so called which are the very same with Apostles Though you will not believe me I presume ye will not mistrust Walo Messalinus his fidelity to your cause His very words are these x Walo Messal p. 44. Titus Timotheus Apostoli tunc nominabantur REVERA ERANT EPISCOPI JVRE EODEM ET ORDINE quo hodiè habertur qui Ecclesiam regunt Presbyteris praesunt Titus and Tymothy were named APOSTLES and IN VERY TRVTH WERE BISHOPS BY THE SAME RIGHT AND OF THE SAME ORDER that these are at this day who govern the Church and have command over Presbyters So your own dearest friend 37. But there can be no surer Commentary of our Saviours words then the Apostles daily practice And meet it is for us in these things to doe as they did And ought not Bishops to preserve as much as in them lyes that power which God in his word hath committed to them y 1. Tim. 6.20 Depositum custodi is a full command and of a large extent that charge which S. Paul hath committed to Timothie's and every z Vincent Lyrin c. 27. Bishop's trust is not to be waved on any hand carefully preserved it must be For doth not S. Paul charge Timothy to a 2. Tim. 3.14 continue in those things which he hath both learned and been assured of and to b Ib. c. 4. v. 5. fulfill his Ministry 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 his owne Ministry c Ib. c. 1. v. 6. which was given unto him by the imposition of S. Pauls hands Surely we ought to doe so and I hope God will so enable our Bishops that they shall discharge their duties though it be with hazard of their lives And a main part of their duty it is to Ordaine Presbyters and Deacons For to them and to them only this power belongs as shall be proved § 51.52 The third Proposition That Ordination performed by him by the Bishop being a Presbyter joyned with other Presbyters is in your judgement for substance valid and not to be disclaimed by any that have received it 38. THe Bishops are so much beholding to you as to ackowledge them to be Presbyters and their Ordinations valid notwithstanding their assumings and encroachings Yee take order therefore that d Ord. p. 13. a Presbyter so ordained shall be admitted to a charge WITHOUT ANY NEW ORDINATION 39. Notwithstanding this your Magisteriall definition I must tell you that this your Proposition is partly true partly false True in that an Ordination performed by a Bishop is valid But false that it is performed by him as a Presbyter He ordaines not as a presbyter but as a Bishop or if you will is an Apostle Bishop Not by vertue of the Order of Presbyter but by vertue of his Episcopall or Apostolicall Order e Epiphan haer 75. Presbyterorum enim Ordo non est potens generare patres for this Order the Order of Presbyters is not able to beget Fathers or Presbyters but Children for the Church And so no validitie in their Ordaining as shall be more fully manifested in the Confutation of your next Proposition 40. False like wise it is That the Ordination is only so farre forth valid as it is performed by a Bishop soyned with Presbyters Bishops you pull downe as low as yee can no Ordination good by a Bishop without assisting Presbyters but a Minister is highly in your favour he may if you Authorize Ordaine alone for doe not you say The Minister that ordaineth p. 13. But as you are out in affirming that one or many Presbyters may Ordaine so are you as wide from truth in resolving that a Bishop cannot Ordaine without presbyters joyned with him For this is certaine that the assisting Presbyters are not of the essence of Ordination for then were there no Ordination in the Greek Church since therein Presbyters lay on no hands at all in Ordination As f Pet. Arcud de Concord l. 6. c. 4. §. Igitur in Petrus Aroudius manifests Neither is there so much as mention made of Presbyters assisting or laying on their hands by or with or neare the Bishops hands at Ordination in all the Greeke Canons or the Euchologue but only of the Bishop ordaining a Presbyter They had an eye upon Scripture wherein they finde S. Paul alone and Titus alone and Timothy alone ordaining without assistants Yee are carefull to preserve the credit of some late reformed Churches beyond the Seas give us leave to be tender of those many and famous Churches in the East the first the learned churches of the world from whom we received the Scriptures and if the Learned be not mistaken the best expositions thereof even our Faith and Orders though not immediatly 41. I must confesse that in the Latine Churches g Concil Carthag IIII. Can. 3. Presbyters at the Ordination of a Priest and of a Priest only layed on their hands by the Bishops hand But these were for attestation not for Ordination The African Fathers therefore that enjoyne this very Act of the Presbyters ascribe Ordination wholy and only to the Bishop as is to be seen Co● Afric Can. 31.55 80 c. A Bishop therefore may Ordaine without the assistance of Presbyters and the Ordination shall be good though not Legall with us because the Bishop may be justly questioned and censured for transgressing the Canons of our Church The fourth Proposition Presbyters so ordained being lawfully thereunto appointed and authorized may ordaine other Presbyters 42. IT seems hereby that Ordination is one thing and lawfull authorizing another That is if I mistake not your meaning when a Presbyter is ordained he receives no such power till he be afterwards lawfully authorized by you or such as you are And yet immediatly after ye make h Ord. p. 2. lawfull calling and Ordaining to be one and the same A Lawfulnesse then there is in Ordination without your concurrence or approbation Yea your own words are that i Ph. p. 15. Presbyters ORDAINED according to this Directory shall be for ever reputed and taken to ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES for LAWFULL and SUFFICIENTLY AUTHORIZED Ministers of the Church of England and capable of any Ministeriall imployment If that be not home enough observe I beseech you how you resolve that every Minister by imposition of hands i● k Ib. p. 22. set a part to fulfill the worke of his Ministery IN ALL THINGS Having then so full a Commission given them in Ordination how comes it to passe that before they may Lawfully Ordaine they must first be appointed and authorized by you 43. Is it a Ministeriall Imployment to Ordaine If it be so then is every Minister by his Orders sufficiently authorized

you that the state of the question is mistaken by too many For it is not whether the word Bishop and the word Presbyter doe in Scriptures signifie one and the same Function not yet whether a Bishop and a Presbyter be of one and the same Order in Scripture But the question rightly stated is this Whether there be an Order in Scripture distinct from the Order of Presbyter and Superiour to that Order 20. To quarrell about names and words had not wont to be the custome of the Church of Christ for plaine it is that we speak not alwaies as the Scripture speakes The Scripture calls i Sacramentum hoc magnum e●● So S. Hierom reads Eph. 5.32 Matrimony a Sacrament if we beleive S Hierom the Latine Fathers from whom we borrow the word Sacrament and yet we call it not so The Scripture never calls Baptisme or the Lords Supper a Sacrament and yet we call them both so and custome hath appropriated that name to them and yet no corrupt custome I hope The reason is because we define a Sacrament to be an outward and visible signe of an inward and spirituall grace given unto us ordained by Christ himselfe 〈◊〉 … ron in 〈…〉 7. as a meanes whereby we receive the same and a pledge to assure us thereof Now Baptisme and the Lords Supper make good this definition which Matrimouy doth not 21. Neither doth the same word in Scripture signifie alwares the same Office and Order no not in the same place and verse If question be made whether there were but one High-Priest at one time in the Iewish Church we answer positively but one That is but one strictly and properly so called And yet we find many High-Priests at the same time S. Mar. 14.1 S. Luc. 22.2 S. Ioh. 11.47 But we say not that all these were High-Priests strictly and properly so called not Pontifices simpliciter but secundum quid in respect of their brethren who were under their charge And these are called the chiefe or principall Fathers of the Priests 1. Chron. 24.6 31. 22. Not in the same place and verse For S. Mat. 26.3 we find many High-Priests and one High-Priest Many High-Priests assemble together unto the Palace of Caiphas the High Priest k S. Mat. 26.3 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And yet but one of these was 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 properly the High-Priest l Heb. 9.7 no other but he but that one might go into the Sancta Sanctorum the holyest of all m Num. 8. ● Lyra in Num. 8.5 None of them but he onely could Ordaine or Consecrate a Priest and n 1. Chron. 24.18 none of them but he had jurisdiction over all the Sonnes of Levi. 23. Thus we finde one Bishop and many Bishops in Asia and Creet Titus is the Bishop of Creet and yet in that Citty there were many Bishops For he that is called a Presbyter v. 5. is called a Bishop v. 7. Thus was it in Asia But the title of Bishop even in those times was appropriated to Timothy and Titus as is evident in the Postscripts to those Epistles wherein the former is called Bishop of the Asians and Titus Bishop of the Cretians These are they that were truly and properly named Bishops of those Churches In Scripture we find them termed so it cannot be denyed Beza is my witnesse who met with no Manuscript without these Postscripts And I hope Beza is no abettor of corruptions in Scripture 24. Timothy and Titus were ordained by St Paul and by him for ought any man can say they were called Bishops I am certaine they are called so by the Spirit of God or Beza hath abused us And these that are thus called so in those places were for their time the only Bishops of those Churches These had Iurisdiction spirituall over all Persons in those severall Churches not only over Lay-men and Deacons but over the Presbyter-Bishops also even to convent censure silence and to cast them out of the Church These Bishops also had the right and power of Ordination which the Presbyter Bishops never had 25. What were they in those times distinguished only by right and power and not by titles No such matter Those whom we now call Bishops were at the first named Apostles But those whom we now call Presbyters or Priests were then indifferently stiled Bishops or Presbyters If I prove not this I deserve blame but if I shall make this Assertion good I shall doe the truth and you service and I hope yee will doe the truth and your selves that honour as to lay the censure where the fault is even upon those that have misled you 26. My first witnesse shall be Theodoret who certifies us that o Theodorer in Philip. 1.1 while St Pauls Epistles were writing the same Persons were called both Presbyters and Bishops but those who are now named BISHOPS were then called APOSTLES But in processe of time the Title of APOSTLE was left to those who were 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 APOSTLES properly and truly so called And the name of BISHOP was appropriated to those who heretofore were called APOSTLES With Theodoret accords St Hierome who testifies that p Hieron in Gal. 1.19 The Apostles ordained Apostles Calvin saith as much upon 1. Cor. 4.9 So here are more Apostles then twelve or thirteene 27. Would you know who are the Apostles that these speake of The Scriptures tell us of q Gal. 1.19 St James of r Philip. 2.25 Epaphroditus an ſ 1. Cor. 49. Apollo who in their severall places are expresly galled Apostles Witnesse the Greeke Text the originall Lancuage of those Epistles And St Hierome justifies that t Hieron C●tal c. 4. this St James was Bishop of Hierusalem but none of the Twelve as too many ignorantly conceive but u Hieron in Es 17. decimus tertius Apostolorum the thirteenth Apostle None of those that were immediatly ordained by Christ himselfe he was * Hieron in Catal. c. 4. ab ipsis Apostolis ordainatus ordained by the Apostles suddenly after our Saviours Passion x Theodoret. in Phil 2 25. Epaphroditus likewise was Bishop of Philippi and y Hieron in Tit. 3. ●3 Apollo Bishop of Corinth Apostles in Scripture Language but Bishops in the Church Language None of these were ordained by our Saviour but by his Apostles yet z Walo Messal p. 43.44.244 these were of the same Order and Power with their Ordainers and clearly of a different Order from Presbyters You shall heare what your deare friend Wale Messalinus speakes a Apostolorum tempore Apostolos ipsos veros juisse Ecclesiarum Episcopos Episcopos autem qui tunc fic nominabātur in Presbyterorum ordine stetisse quales nunc Episcopis subditi sunt Walo Messal p. 355. In the time of the Apostles the APOSTLES themselves were the TRUE BISHOPS of those Churches But they who in those times were called BISHOPS were of the same Order with