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thessalonica_n irenaeus_n pag._n 140_o 142._o disci_fw-la te_fw-la ab_fw-la apostoli_fw-la cis_fw-la ecclesijs_fw-la habetis_fw-la romae_fw-la linum_fw-la &_o polycarpum_fw-la smyrnae_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n edoctum_fw-la tertull._n praeser_n p._n c._n 37._o proximè_fw-la est_fw-la tibi_fw-la achaâ—_n habes_fw-la corinthum_n si_fw-mi non_fw-la longè_fw-la es_fw-la â—_o macedonia_n habes_fw-la philippos_n habes_fw-la thessalonicenses_n si_fw-mi potes_fw-la in_o asiam_fw-la tendere_fw-la habes_fw-la ephesum_fw-la si_fw-la autem_fw-la italiae_fw-la adjaces_fw-la haqes_fw-la romam_fw-la unde_fw-la nobis_fw-la quoque_fw-la authoritas_fw-la praest_n o_o est_fw-la rhenanus_fw-la argum_fw-la in_o tert._n de_fw-fr prescript_n &_o alibi_fw-la impress_n basil_n 1521._o tertullianus_n ecclesiam_fw-la unam_fw-la apostolicam_fw-la nulla_fw-la loco_fw-la affigit_fw-la romanum_fw-la aec_fw-la lesiam_fw-la ornat_fw-la magnificae_fw-la laudis_fw-la elogio_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la tantam_fw-la 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falso_fw-la 415._o ecclesia_fw-la propheâ—â—_n est_fw-la more_o than_o a_o prophet_n propheta_fw-la prophet_n idem_fw-la falso_fw-la 224._o plâ—â—quaâ—_n propheta_fw-la yea_o great_a than_o all_o the_o prophet_n prophetis_fw-la prophet_n idem_fw-la circ_n false_o 286._o major_a omnibus_fw-la prophetis_fw-la have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n for_o 〈◊〉_d â—iâ—ar_n dicit_fw-la â—iâ—ar_n idem_fw-la falso_fw-la 416._o spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la vicarium_fw-la dicit_fw-la thus_o we_o see_v what_o judge_n the_o jesuite_n do_v contest_v for_o and_o how_o far_o they_o labour_v to_o extend_v his_o power_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o pope_n who_o be_v not_o only_o a_o prophet_n but_o more_o than_o a_o prophet_n yeaâ—_n great_a than_o all_o the_o prophet_n who_o have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n for_o his_o vicâ—â—_n either_o with_o or_o without_o a_o council_n have_v only_o power_n to_o determine_v matter_n of_o faith_n whereby_o we_o may_v know_v what_o to_o believe_v and_o what_o not_o with_o authority_n not_o only_o equal_a but_o superior_a to_o the_o scripture_n now_o what_o strength_n do_v the_o jesuite_n bring_v to_o confirm_v this_o rule_n his_o first_o place_n be_v esay_n liiii_o and_o the_o 17._o thou_o shall_v judge_v every_o tongue_n that_o shall_v resist_v theâ—_n in_o thy_o judgement_n 99_o judgement_n reply_v pag._n 99_o sure_o the_o jesuite_n be_v like_a to_o their_o divine_n in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n who_o be_v restrain_v to_o the_o scripture_n and_o forbid_a schoole-disputes_a bring_v all_o the_o place_n out_o of_o the_o prophet_n and_o psalm_n where_o they_o stand_v the_o word_n confiteor_n and_o its_o verbal_a confissiâ—_n to_o prove_v auricular_a confession_n and_o they_o be_v account_v best_o learn_v who_o bring_v most_o of_o they_o 345._o they_o hist_o council_n tridâ—â—_n l._n 4._o p._n 345._o for_o here_o be_v nothing_o whereby_o to_o make_v the_o pope_n the_o infallible_a judge_n of_o controversy_n unless_o he_o will_v conclude_v that_o wheresoever_o judge_n or_o judgement_n be_v express_v it_o be_v mean_v of_o he_o the_o second_o be_v out_o of_o mat._n xi_o and_o the_o 18._o hâ—ll_o gate_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o she_o ibid._n she_o reply_v ibid._n we_o confess_v that_o all_o the_o power_n of_o hell_n shall_v never_o prevail_v against_o the_o church_n but_o we_o say_v this_o church_n be_v neither_o the_o pope_n naked_a nor_o roman_a as_o have_v in_o many_o place_n be_v show_v yet_o i_o will_v glad_o know_v to_o what_o purpose_n this_o text_n be_v here_o produce_v the_o three_o place_n be_v mat._n xviii_o and_o the_o â—7_n hâ—e_n that_o will_v not_o hear_v the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o aâ—_n a_o heathen_a and_o a_o publican_n ibid._n publican_n reply_v ibid._n if_o a_o infallible_a judge_n be_v here_o point_v out_o than_o all_o these_o absurdity_n will_v follow_v first_o that_o every_o particular_a church_n shall_v be_v infallible_a and_o the_o judge_n of_o controversy_n for_o dâ—c_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la have_v relation_n to_o particular_a church_n not_o to_o the_o catholic_a second_o a_o particular_a church_n shall_v not_o be_v subject_a to_o error_n in_o criminal_a cause_n if_o this_o place_n point_v out_o a_o infallible_a judgement_n when_o as_o this_o infallibility_n be_v deny_v not_o only_o your_o own_o counsel_n but_o your_o pope_n also_o 3_o if_o the_o church_n judgement_n must_v be_v infallible_a because_o christ_n require_v we_o to_o hear_v the_o church_n how_o can_v the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n be_v exclude_v from_o this_o privilege_n when_o the_o people_n be_v enjoin_v by_o the_o apostle_n to_o obey_v and_o follow_v they_o heb._n xiii_o 17._o his_o four_o place_n be_v ephes_n four_o ii_o and_o 14._o god_n have_v place_v in_o the_o church_n apostles_n prophet_n pastor_n and_o doctor_n etc._n etc._n to_o the_o end_n that_o we_o be_v â—â—_o more_o little_a child_n â—aâ—oring_v with_o every_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n ibâ—â—_n doctrine_n reply_v ibâ—â—_n i_o shall_v show_v hereafter_o that_o this_o text_n make_v against_o his_o judge_n his_o monarch_n for_o the_o present_a he_o may_v take_v this_o with_o he_o first_o that_o we_o acknowledge_v as_o long_o as_o the_o church_n have_v apostles_n &_o prophet_n their_o testimony_n be_v divine_a and_o can_v infallible_o direct_v second_o although_o the_o â—aâ—tors_n now_o be_v mean_n ordain_v by_o god_n to_o the_o end_n that_o we_o be_v no_o more_o little_a child_n waver_v with_o every_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v infallible_a judge_n see_v the_o argument_n may_v as_o well_o hold_v of_o each_o as_o of_o all_o who_o be_v ordain_v to_o the_o same_o end_n which_o i_o think_v the_o jesuite_n will_v not_o acknowledge_v his_o last_o be_v 1._o tim._n 2._o the_o church_n be_v the_o pillar_n and_o foundation_n of_o truth_n ibid._n truth_n reply_v ibid._n what_o therefore_o the_o pope_n the_o infallible_a judge_n this_o follow_v not_o for_o he_o be_v the_o rock_n if_o we_o believe_v popish_a interpreter_n upon_o which_o the_o church_n be_v build_v how_o then_o can_v he_o be_v the_o church_n infallible_o to_o direct_v the_o foundation_n sure_o differ_v from_o the_o roof_n the_o church_n that_o be_v build_v from_o the_o rock_n that_o she_o be_v build_v upon_o second_o the_o jesuite_n may_v know_v that_o we_o envy_v not_o the_o privilege_n which_o god_n have_v give_v his_o church_n nay_o he_o be_v no_o member_n of_o she_o that_o shall_v not_o reverence_v she_o with_o obedience_n and_o therefore_o we_o acknowledge_v she_o the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n if_o contain_v the_o apostle_n absolute_o perfect_o if_o without_o the_o apostle_n we_o deny_v not_o her_o counsel_n but_o with_o all_o obedience_n embrace_v they_o if_o she_o command_v as_o she_o be_v limit_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n by_o the_o scripture_n but_o we_o see_v this_o place_n be_v more_o for_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n concern_v which_o the_o apostle_n speak_v literal_o than_o rome_n and_o yet_o experience_n have_v persuade_v we_o that_o there_o be_v no_o infallibility_n there_o further_o than_o this_o some_o of_o your_o own_o dare_v not_o go_v but_o make_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o judgement_n of_o god_n and_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n the_o one_o they_o say_v be_v infallible_a but_o the_o other_o may_v sometime_o deceive_v collegum_fw-la deceive_v panorm_a in_o decret_a de_fw-fr senten_a excom_n cap._n 28._o judicium_fw-la dei_fw-la veritati_fw-la quae_fw-la nec_fw-la fallit_fw-la nec_fw-la fallitur_fw-la semper_fw-la innititur_fw-la judicium_fw-la autem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la aliquando_fw-la sequitur_fw-la opinionem_fw-la quae_fw-la sâ—pè_fw-la fallit_fw-la &_o fallitur_fw-la dry_a de_fw-fr dog_n ecclesl_n 2._o p._n 58._o generale_fw-mi concilium_fw-la papae_fw-la cardinalium_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la doctorum_fw-la â—â—_o scripture_n propheticis_fw-la intelligendis_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la tantae_fw-la authoritatis_fw-la quantae_fw-la fuerit_fw-la olim_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la collegum_fw-la for_o ruffinus_n his_o testimony_n that_o s._n basil_n and_o s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n do_v take_v the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o scripture_n not_o according_a to_o their_o own_o proper_a understanding_n but_o according_a to_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o father_n 99_o father_n reply_v p._n 99_o the_o jesuite_n point_v not_o out_o the_o place_n if_o he_o do_v i_o think_v little_a will_v appear_v for_o his_o purpose_n in_o regard_n he_o be_v to_o prove_v the_o authority_n of_o a_o judge_n not_o the_o discretion_n of_o a_o doctor_n and_o who_o doubt_n but_o any_o wise_a interpreter_n will_v use_v all_o mean_n that_o may_v inform_v he_o to_o perform_v his_o work_n but_o let_v ruffian_n pass_v augustine_n make_v a_o outcry_n and_o do_v not_o s._n augustine_n cry_v out_o say_v the_o jesuite_n that_o truth_n repose_v in_o the_o belly_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n ibid._n etc._n reply_v ibid._n and_o who_o say_v otherwise_o he_o that_o shall_v think_v that_o truth_n be_v remove_v out_o of_o the_o church_n think_v amiss_o but_o to_o conclude_v from_o hence_o the_o church_n the_o roman_a church_n the_o roman_a pope_n to_o be_v the_o judge_n or_o rule_n of_o faith_n be_v inconsequent_a neither_o do_v that_o place_n of_o augustine_n cite_v by_o the_o jesuite_n in_o the_o xth_o section_n evangeliâ—_n non_fw-fr credereâ—â—_n nisi_fw-la i_o catholica_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la commoveret_fw-la authoritus_fw-la contain_v any_o thing_n to_o enforce_v this_o for_o many_o thing_n may_v move_v we_o to_o believe_v that_o be_v not_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n miracle_n do_v this_o work_n in_o many_o but_o this_o i_o hope_v be_v far_o from_o your_o rule_n what_o be_v urge_v from_o vincentius_n lirinensis_n have_v be_v full_o answer_v his_o note_n from_o the_o geneva_n bible_n prove_v nothing_o if_o he_o find_v this_o judge_n at_o geneva_n he_o speed_v well_o in_o these_o word_n i_o fear_v he_o can_v be_v espy_v 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sentence_n or_o else_o by_o humane_a and_o weak_a suspicion_n we_o do_v guess_v otherwise_o then_o the_o truth_n be_v and_o consequent_o be_v deceive_v 100_o reply_v p._n 100_o we_o know_v that_o augustine_n in_o this_o place_n speak_v not_o of_o any_o matter_n of_o faith_n that_o be_v or_o can_v be_v by_o declaration_n of_o the_o church_n but_o tell_v we_o that_o our_o belief_n whereby_o we_o be_v christian_n remain_v sure_a and_o settle_a our_o ignorance_n &_o error_n in_o other_o thing_n which_o be_v far_o from_o be_v of_o faith_n will_v not_o be_v so_o dangerous_a and_o other_o sort_n of_o point_n there_o be_v say_v the_o jesuite_n wherein_o when_o controversy_n do_v arise_v one_o part_n be_v already_o find_v declare_v for_o true_a and_o command_v of_o necessity_n to_o be_v so_o believe_v by_o all_o and_o in_o these_o if_o a_o man_n be_v advertise_v of_o the_o church_n declaration_n and_o notwithstanding_o will_v obstinate_o maintain_v the_o contrary_a then_o be_v he_o say_v to_o 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