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A77291 The divinity of the Trinity cleared, by wiping off the false glosses put upon several places of Scripture by Mr. John Biddle, in his book intituled The apostolical and true opinion touching the Holy Trinity, &c. Written by a very learned man, lately deceased. Brayne, John. 1654 (1654) Wing B4322; Thomason E809_25; ESTC R19017 31,675 32

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from God as from Christ but not by the Article ὁ because of the same nature of God and one with him I know no ground to any solid objection in Scripture to this truth but from Mark 12.29 Christ said from Deut. 4.6 The Lord your God is one Lord ver 34. Thou speakest to the truth for one is Theos God and there is not another the Lord Jesus said One Lord 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the man One God 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 so that it seems they are one for he is commended for his answer But 1. He is said to answer 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 understandingly that is he understood better then he spoke 2. He understood Christ what he said saying he spoke to the truth or as the truth was yet he spake not as Jesus spake who spake as the Spirit spake by Moses so did not this man 3. Jesus applies the one distinctly to 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or Jehovah he to 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or the Elohim which was not right in that place because Jehovah Elohim were both in that place expressed as distinct Conclusion In all this the same Jehovah and the same Elohims speak and are revealed in the New Testament as in the Old therefore they speak so and are to be understood so in the New as in the Old or he is known of none But to set forth this by example 1. When the Scripture speaks of one God by adding 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as 1 Tim. 2.5 Gal. 3.20 Phil. 2.13 c. in all such places you are onely warranted to applie it contractively to Jehovah from Deut. 4.6 It is heresie to say there is one God that is the Father onely in which the other Elohims are excluded 1 Cor. 8.6 2. And the reason why he says one God here and not one Lord is because Christ was now exalted and made Lord and that title bestowed on him though inferior to the dominion of Jehovah 3. Because 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 God is applied as the word to expound the Elohim by it proves that as the word Elohim under the Law-estate was common to the Elohims so Theos under the Gospel is that common term properly given to set forth the Father Sonne and holy Spirit by 4. Hence 2 Peter 1.17 he that is the Christ received from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 God the Father without the Conjunction 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 intervening here the particular hypostasis of the Father called God is mentioned 5. So 2 Tim. 1.2 Tit. 1.4 1 Thess 1.1 and not Jehovah when as in James 1.27 God hath 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and set between it and Father Pure Religion and undefiled before God and the Father then by God is meant Jehovah and the particular Elohims of the Father therefore exprest that whereas the Sonne came forth from God and the Spirit the Father abode in the blessedness and being of Jehovah without humiliation Rom. 15.6 and thence distinguisht 6. When the Father is mentioned alone without God the Father the Elohim is understood not Jehovah John 10.30 I and the Father are one which is as that Deut. 4.6 Jehovah thy Elohims are one John 14.16 I will aske the Father John 8.18 The Father sent him 7. When it says I am the God of thy Fathers Acts 7.32 from Exod. 3.6 ye are to understand the Elohims not Jehovah nor the Elohim the Father more then the Sonne or the holy Spirit Gen. 17.6 8. From Acts 10.34 and Rom. 2.11 God is said to be no accepter of persons which 2 Chron. 19.7 is ascribed to Jehovah Elohims as being essential to God to be just and proper to all the Elohims in that Essence 9. When God is simply spoken of Jehovah is understood as Mark 8.33 Thou savorest not the things of God John 13.3 That he came forth from God and returned to God John 3.2 Luke 3.2 The word of God came to John 1 Cor. 14.36 Thus Ezek. 21.1 The word of Jehovah came to Ezekiel and 18.1 and 17. 1. Isa 50.1 Thus saith Jehovah 10. When worship is given to God Acts 18.7.13 and 16.14 it is to be understood Jehovah Matth. 4.10 Luke 4.8 from Deut. 6.13 Thou shalt fear Jehovah thy Elohims and shalt serve him and swear in his Name Deut. 10.20 Thou shalt fear Jehovah thy Elohims c. 1. Cor. 14.25 11. When 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 God is set down without an Article as a diminutive then the Sonne or Spirit which came forth from God were sent and were less so then the Father are intended or the Father because he alone without the Sonne and holy Spirit is not Jehovah 12. The Attributes set to God in the New Testament direct us to whom to apply them whether to Jehovah or to the Elohims in general the Spirit or Adonai in particular as 1 Tim. 4.10 God is spoke of as the living God Matth. 16.16 1 Thess 1.9 Heb. 9.14 by looking into the Old to whom that Title is attributed Now the living God is attributed to the Elohims Deut. 5.26 Who of all flesh that hath heard the voyce of the living Elohims and hence as of those Elohims John 1.4 the Son or Word is said to have life in himself John 5.26 As the Father hath life in himself so he hath given to the Sonne to have life in himself c. In which he emptied himself as Mediator acknowledging all he had to be from Father or Holy Spirit he being in his Ministery Obj. Life is said of the Father to be given the Son therefore he is not equal 1. Resp In Jehovah the Elohims are one but among the Elohims by consent as parts and portions are as it were committed to each other that one thereby may glorifie another the Father by his part glorifying the Sonne the Sonne the Father John 17.1 4 5. and 8.54 John 16.4 the Spirit by his portion glorifies the Sonne 2. These portions are so committed one to other that one thereby is equal with the other Phil. 2.6 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 equal that is equal in portion to God hence John 5.22 all judgement by the Father is given or committed to the Sonne by which all men should glorifie the Sonne as they glorifie the Father his portion equalizeth him to the Father Hence also the knowledge of the times and seasons are kept in the Fathers hands as his part of portion Act. 1.7 which the Father hath set 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 3. The very out going of Jehovah in himself as a Father was as a portion in that being to the Elohim the Father in Jehovah so the Sonne in Jehovah is his portion to be the Sonne by which he is said to be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 John 5.18 but he said God was 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 his proper Farther making himself equal to God so the Jehovah going forth in the Spirit made the spirits portion equal with God Note that is that Divine Glory Honour
how vain is it to argue That the Spirit goeth from one place to another and is not infinite and cannot be God I hope Mr. Biddle will not say that the holy Spirit of God was confined to that dove-like shape if not what is all that he hath asserted therein When Jehovah Elohims are said to descend Gen. 11.7 do they therefore go from one place to another in their essence Again the Spirit of God is not said to come into the world as the Son is said he being not joyned to any nature created as angels or men much less may he be said to be a creature or a part of the world as all creatures are whatever The very expression of God Joel 3.1 Acts 2.17 It shall come to pass says Jehovah in the last days I will pour out of my Spirit on all flesh proves that what is said of it is not said of any Angel or other created Spirit it being not in their nature or being to be so poured out who in us is still the Spirit of God distinct from our spirits As for Mr. Biddle's saying he was sent by a man he must first prove Jesus Christ the Son of God is meer man which is petitio principii and then that he is less then the man Christ And to be sent to see them in which as the Son he humbled himself and was less then the Father less then the Son who sent him Joh. 14.26 And then he heard from him as man when the Word indeed says He shall take of mine but not He shall hear of me Joh. 16.14 and in vers 13. What he shall hear that he shall speak it is not said What he shall hear of me in which there is theft from the Spirit This hearing of the Spirit is not a hearing of creatures in the way of man though our hearing helps to demonstrate it symbolically My purpose is to be brief herein consider well I pray 2 Cor. 2.3 the Corinthians are an epistle of Christ written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God of which Spirit they were Ministers and by which they were quickned vers 6. Vers 8. their Ministery is called the ministery of the Spirit that reveals truth teacheth leadeth sanctifieth comforteth assisteth and helpeth infirmities in a word helps to profit by preaching and assists in prayer to Jehovah Now lest this spirit should be thought to be the humane spirit of Christ as in many places of Scripture or a created spirit vers 17. The Lord is the Spirit By 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in the New Testament is meant either Jehovah or Christ but it appears that by the Lord here is meant Jehovah who is that Spirit called The Spirit of the living God vers 3. and that ministreth vers 8. and therefore concludes Where the Spirit of Jehovah is there is liberty Vers 8. he clears this saying We all with open face beholding the glory of the Lord are changed from or changed into the same image from glory to glory even as of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Lord the Spirit 1. See vers 3. the Epistle is Christs written with the Spirit of the living God on which is the rise of the Apostles speech and the Lord Christ and the Lord the Spirit distinguished 2. So here is the Lord Christ in the 18 verse into whose image men are changed as distinct and admits not place for his Spirit of holiness and everlasting Spirit 3. The Lord the Spirit that is Jehovah the holy Spirit of whom this change is thus made in men as the efficient cause thereof 4. Vers 8. The means how it 's effected and that is by the ministery of the Spirit In which we may see that the holy Spirit of God is the Lord Jehovah though in his ministery and though not called the holy Spirit yet the Spirit of God which Mr. Biddle distinguisheth from God Who yet humbled himself not onely in beholding things above but in beholding things on earth so as to come forth from the Father to see them Joh. 14.26 And Joh. 16.13 he speaks not of his own but what he hears He glorifies Jesus Christ the Son of God to man Joh. 16.14 In a word he is sent to carry on the work of God in saving man The Father had begun the Son had furthered and now he comes to finish it ministring life and power to the means appointed by the Lord Jesus to be used in the revealing the Lord therein in power which is called 2 Cor. 3.8 the ministry of the Spirit All which undertakings of the Spirit do not destroy his Deity nor being no more then that of the Sons undertaking for man nor is there apparent in what he doth to destroy it as in what the Son did who came out from God and from the Father into the world when it is not said so of the Spirit who though he ministreth is Jehovah the Spirit Object But says Mr. Biddle There is but one Lord therefore the Lord the Spirit is the Lord Jesus Resp There is indeed by way of eminencie but one man made Lord of God that is Jesus Christ 2. This denies not Jehovah to be Lord and so not the Lord the Spirit who made Jesus Lord and Christ I remember Mr. Biddle makes use of Joh. 17.3 This is eternal life that they may know thee the onely true God and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent Now says he here is no mention of the Spirit to be God nor of the knowledge of him to be eternal life Resp 1. By God is meant here Jehovah Father Son and Spirit 2. It is but onely Jesus Christ intended as distinct from the Son spoke distinctly of vers 1. 2. 3. But if any plead the Son was sent and intended here yet the Spirit is not excluded from Jehovah who came not forth from God though from the Father and the Son because as yet not distinctly sent forth the Spirit not coming forth until Christ was ascended Joh. 16.7 and 7.39 4. But say they this was spoken to the Father onely as the onely true God True not excluding the Spirit and Son onely this he abode in the excellent glory the Son came forth and the Spirit was to come forth 5. By Father is not simply meant that hypostasis in Jehovah called the Father but Jehovah that Elohim begetting the Son nor the Son that hypostasis of the Son the Elohim but the Son Jehovah is begotten in Jehovah the Father yet all one Jehovah in which the Father and Son are one and the Father in the Son and the Son in the Father Joh. 14.11 Joh. 10.30 6. To know the Father to be an Elohim in Jehovah is to know him to be the onely true God as Jehovah and to know the Son and Spirit to be Elohims in Jehovah is to know them to be the onely true Jehovah And this is no Barbarism for Gen. 19.23 And Jehovah made fire and brimstone rain on Sodom and