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A66964 A discourse of the necessity of church-guides, for directing Christians in necessary faith with some annotations on Dr Stillingfleet's answer to N.O. / by R.H. R. H., 1609-1678. 1675 (1675) Wing W3446; ESTC R38733 248,311 278

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to_o render_v their_o act_n equivalent_a to_o that_o of_o a_o council_n general_n and_o so_o in_o all_o necessary_n infallible_a and_o therefore_o in_o the_o same_o place_n the_o cardinal_n instance_v in_o the_o anathemas_n pass_v in_o the_o african_a council_n against_o pelagianism_n observe_v out_o of_o prosper_v chronicon_fw-la a.d._n 420._o that_o pelagianism_n condemn_v by_o they_o yet_o non_fw-la priùs_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la totius_fw-la orbis_fw-la damnata_fw-la est_fw-la quàm_fw-la zosimus_n papa_n decreta_fw-la illius_fw-la concilii_fw-la firmasset_fw-la prosper_v word_n be_v concilio_n apud_fw-la carthaginem_fw-la habito_fw-la 217._o episcoporum_fw-la ad_fw-la pentificem_fw-la zosimum_fw-la synodalia_fw-la decreta_fw-la prolata_fw-la sunt_fw-la their_o anathemas_n quibus_fw-la probatis_fw-la per_fw-la totum_fw-la mundum_fw-la haeresis_fw-la pelagiana_n damnata_fw-la est_fw-la be_v these_o anathemas_n obtain_v their_o just_a force_n and_o that_o s._n austin_n in_o his_o 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because_o it_o rest_v on_o divine_a authority_n which_o can_v possible_o deceive_v and_o as_o some_o catholic_n also_o explain_v themselves_o when_o they_o say_v that_o no_o divine_a faith_n without_o a_o infallible_a assent_n i.e._n a_o assent_n to_o a_o object_n that_o be_v most_o infallible_a god_n word_n not_o without_o a_o proponent_n or_o expositor_n of_o the_o sense_n of_o this_o word_n where_o ambiguous_a that_o be_v also_o real_o infallible_a and_o thus_o they_o say_v the_o illiterate_a and_o vulgar_a sort_n among_o catholic_n be_v infallible_a in_o the_o assent_n they_o give_v to_o the_o article_n of_o their_o faith_n not_o formal_o by_o a_o infallible_a knowledge_n or_o certainty_n that_o the_o thing_n or_o person_n they_o believe_v be_v so_o true_a or_o infallible_a but_o material_o by_o their_o adherence_n to_o that_o which_o be_v a_o real_a truth_n who_o therefore_o from_o the_o object_n of_o their_o faith_n god_n word_n and_o the_o proponent_n of_o the_o sense_n of_o
of_o the_o christian_a faith_n and_o here_o in_o what_o have_v be_v urge_v out_o of_o he_o but_o now_o do_v not_o he_o grant_v the_o just_a require_v of_o a_o internal_a assent_n to_o infer_v infallibility_n or_o will_v he_o justify_v it_o lawful_a for_o a_o council_n that_o grant_v itself_o fallible_a in_o such_o its_o decree_n notwithstanding_o to_o do_v all_o these_o thing_n and_o then_o may_v not_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n right_o do_v so_o and_o last_o why_o do_v the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o themselves_o say_v forbear_v such_o thing_n i_o say_v i_o see_v not_o clear_o what_o here_o the_o dr_n will_v have_v n._n 4_o 2ly_n come_v to_o that_o which_o he_o press_v concern_v the_o practice_n of_o provincial_a council_n anathematise_v dissenter_n and_o yet_o these_o council_n grant_v by_o catholic_n not_o infallible_a which_o concession_n of_o catholic_n and_o particular_o of_o bellarmine_n the_o council_n l._n 2._o c._n 10._o be_v produce_v as_o ruine_v this_o weak_a argument_n of_o n.o._n that_o will_v prove_v from_o anathematise_v dissenter_n infallibility_n first_o here_o n.o._n consult_v bellarmin_n he_o be_v find_v de_n council_n l._n 2._o c._n 3._o where_o he_o maintain_v the_o infallibility_n of_o general_n council_n to_o urge_v together_o with_o n.o._n this_o very_a argument_n for_o it_o see_v his_o word_n recite_v in_o the_o former_a discourse_n §_o 65._o next_o for_o the_o objection_n concern_v provincial_a council_n n.o._n have_v consider_v and_o answer_v it_o thus_o 40._o thus_o consid_fw-la p._n 40._o we_o find_v indeed_o subordinate_a council_n also_o state_v sometime_o matter_n of_o faith_n censure_v heretic_n and_o require_v assent_n to_o their_o decree_n but_o still_o with_o relation_n to_o the_o same_o infallibility_n reside_v in_o the_o general_a body_n of_o church-governor_n and_o to_o their_o concurrence_n therein_o they_o not_o pass_v such_o act_n without_o consult_v the_o tradition_n and_o judgement_n of_o other_o church_n and_o especial_o of_o the_o apostolic_a see_n and_o a_o general_a acceptation_n render_v such_o their_o decision_n anthentick_a and_o valid_a so_o as_o those_o of_o general_a council_n be_v and_o bellarmin_n answer_n 16._o answer_n l._n 2._o c._n 16._o be_v show_v to_o be_v in_o substance_n muchwhat_a the_o same_o dr_n st._n reply_n to_o this_o 6._o this_o p._n 125._o l._n 6._o that_o the_o anathemas_n of_o provincial_a council_n do_v not_o relate_v to_o the_o acceptation_n of_o their_o decree_n either_o by_o the_o pope_n or_o the_o whole_a church_n as_o n.o._n suppose_v but_o do_v precede_v upon_o their_o own_o assurance_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o what_o they_o decree_v otherwise_o their_o anathemas_fw-la will_v have_v be_v only_o conditional_a and_o not_o absolute_a and_o peremptory_a as_o we_o see_v they_o be_v thus_o he._n to_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o though_o such_o anathemas_n of_o provincial_a council_n do_v relate_v to_o the_o general_a approbation_n of_o their_o decree_n 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anathemas_n be_v pen_v absolute_a though_o these_o council_n and_o their_o decree_n have_v not_o their_o full_a strength_n till_o the_o confirmation_n thereof_o by_o the_o see_v apostolic_a and_o also_o such_o a_o admittance_n and_o acceptation_n of_o they_o by_o the_o church-catholick_n diffusive_a as_o be_v think_v necessary_a neither_o be_v the_o transaction_n of_o these_o moral_a thing_n to_o be_v exact_v according_a to_o the_o rule_n in_o mathematics_n pag._n 129._o l._n 10._o but_o do_v proceed_v upon_o their_o own_o assurance_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o what_o they_o decree_v here_o do_v our_o author_n allow_v fallible_a council_n upon_o a_o persuasion_n they_o have_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o what_o they_o decree_v to_o anathe_v matize_v dissenter_n and_o pronounce_v they_o heretic_n then_o why_o may_v not_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n do_v so_o or_o if_o he_o mean_v by_o their_o assurance_n that_o provincial_a council_n be_v certain_a without_o relation_n to_o any_o consent_n of_o the_o whole_a that_o they_o do_v not_o err_v in_o such_o decree_n where_o they_o pronounce_v anathema_n so_o he_o seem_v to_o give_v to_o these_o provincial_a council_n also_o a_o infallibility_n more_o than_o which_o catholic_n do_v not_o desire_v to_o be_v allow_v to_o general_n viz._n the_o certainty_n that_o these_o father_n meet_v in_o a_o general_n council_n have_v whether_o by_o the_o evidence_n of_o scripture_n or_o of_o tradition_n or_o of_o a_o necessary_a consequence_n from_o something_o traditive_a or_o at_o least_o of_o our_o lord_n promise_v assistance_n that_o they_o do_v not_o err_v in_o those_o thing_n they_o decree_v though_o in_o many_o other_o thing_n they_o be_v sallible_a ib._n l._n 14._o he_o go_v on_o thus_o but_o i_o need_v give_v no_o other_o answer_n to_o this_o argument_n than_o in_o the_o word_n of_o dr_n field_n who_o n.o._n appeal_v to_o 4._o to_o fieid_v of_o the_o church_n l._n 4._o c._n 4._o but_o in_o another_o matter_n not_o this_o fore_o viz._n that_o council_n denounce_v anathema_n not_o because_o they_o think_v every_o one_o that_o disobey_v the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n to_o be_v accurse_v but_o because_o they_o be_v perswad●●_n in_o particular_a that_o this_o be_v the_o eternal_a truth_n of_o god_n which_o they_o pro●se_v therefore_o they_o accurse_v they_o that_o obstinate_o shall_v resist_v as_o s._n paul_n will_v every_o christian_a man_n to_o anathematise_v a_o angel_n come_v from_o heaven_n if_o he_o shall_v teach_v they_o any_o other_o doctrine_n than_o he_o have_v already_o learned_a yet_o be_v not_o every_o particular_a christian_a free_a from_o possibility_n of_o err_a if_o the_o argument_n than_o be_v good_a from_o anathematise_v dissenter_n and_o call_v they_o heretic_n every_o particular_a person_n must_v by_o it_o be_v prove_v infallible_a who_o be_v bind_v to_o anathematise_v even_o angel_n from_o heaven_n in_o case_n of_o deliver_v any_o other_o doctrine_n from_o the_o gospel_n n._n 1_o where_o it_o be_v say_v first_o that_o these_o general_a council_n do_v not_o denounce_v anathema_n too_o dissenter_n because_o they_o think_v every_o one_o that_o disobey_v the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n i.e._n by_o dissent_v to_o be_v or_o to_o incur_v their_o anathema_n i_o answer_v to_o this_o that_o then_o they_o must_v hold_v their_o anathema_n universal_o pronounce_v to_o be_v as_o to_o such_o person_n unjust_a which_o i_o suppose_v the_o general_a council_n do_v not_o it_o be_v say_v again_o that_o because_o these_o general_n council_n be_v persuade_v in_o particular_a that_o this_o be_v the_o eternal_a truth_n of_o god_n that_o they_o propose_v therefore_o they_o anathematise_v they_o that_o obstinate_o shall_v resist_v but_o one_a n.o._n press_v not_o these_o general_n council_n their_o anathematise_v they_o that_o shall_v obstinate_o resist_v that_o which_o they_o propose_v but_o they_o that_o shall_v dissent_v from_o it_o and_o he_o press_v their_o put_v it_o also_o into_o the_o creed_n and_o under_o anathema_n require_v from_o all_o the_o belief_n of_o it_o and_o that_o as_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n 2._o i_o contend_v that_o no_o council_n that_o only_o be_v persuade_v but_o not_o certain_a that_o that_o which_o it_o propose_v suppose_v the_o consubstantiality_n or_o divinity_n of_o our_o lord_n be_v the_o eternal_a truth_n of_o god_n can_v just_o insert_v such_o point_n in_o the_o creed_n or_o anathematise_v dissenter_n but_o it_o be_v agree_v that_o the_o four_o first_o council_n do_v just_o these_o thing_n and_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o only_o persuade_v but_o certain_a that_o those_o be_v truth_n and_o that_o in_o they_o they_o be_v infallible_a and_o then_o much_o more_o do_v hold_v themselves_o so_o since_o one_o may_v think_v himself_o to_o be_v and_o yet_o not_o be_v infallible_a n._n 2_o to_o that_o which_o follow_v out_o of_o s._n paul_n it_o be_v answer_v that_o s._n paul_n or_o a_o galatian_a must_v be_v certain_a of_o his_o not_o err_v in_o that_o for_o the_o mere_a
this_o plea_n seem_v to_o imply_v more_o iuclude_v in_o the_o word_n prescription_n than_o the_o dr_n allow_v viz._n include_v not_o only_o a_o just_a exception_n against_o their_o plead_n but_o a_o just_a plea_n against_o their_o exeeption_n but_o this_o shall_v make_v no_o contention_n between_o we_o pag_n 215._o l._n ult_n and_o make_v that_o sufficient_a evidence_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o a_o body_n that_o it_o be_v the_o object_n of_o three_o sense_n of_o sight_n and_o touch_v and_o hear_v which_o be_v the_o same_o way_n of_o argue_v we_o make_v use_v of_o against_o transubstantiation_n and_o it_o be_v grant_v a_o sufficient_a evidence_n where_o no_o divine_a revelation_n intervene_v declare_v such_o argue_v mistake_v which_o in_o the_o matter_n of_o our_o lord_n resurrection_n there_o do_v not_o and_o in_o vain_a have_v martion_n make_v any_o such_o pretence_n herein_o against_o these_o sense_n where_o he_o can_v produce_v no_o divine_a revelation_n for_o it_o pag._n 216._o l._n 14._o and_o the_o universal_a reception_n i.e._n by_o the_o church_n of_o the_o true_a gospel_n universal_a reception_n which_o tertullian_n urge_v as_o a_o infallible_a proof_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o these_o gospel_n see_v his_o word_n contra_fw-la martion_n l._n 4._o before_o in_o note_n on_o p._n 210._o l_o 2._o as_o also_o ibid._n contrary_a to_o what_o the_o dr_n say_v below_o his_o call_n in_o a_o infallible_a guide_n the_o same_o church_n for_o give_v a_o certain_a sense_n of_o scripture_n pag_n 218._o l._n 6._o hitherto_o we_o find_v nothing_o etc._n etc._n concern_v this_o let_v the_o former_a place_n 201._o place_n note_v on_o p._n 201._o produce_v out_o of_o they_o bear_v witness_n though_o this_o have_v the_o infirmity_n of_o a_o negative_a argument_n pag._n 219._o l._n 1._o i_o now_o proceed_v to_o clemens_n of_o alexandria_n and_o therefore_o so_o must_v i_o though_o methinks_v he_o have_v lead_v his_o reader_n and_o i_o a_o great_a way_n from_o the_o consideration_n of_o his_o principle_n he_o that_o read_v the_o seven_o book_n of_o his_o stromata_n here_o cite_v as_o he_o will_v find_v much_o of_o study_v the_o scripture_n and_o learn_v demonstration_n from_o thence_o against_o heretic_n so_o will_v he_o of_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n contradistinct_a to_o heresy_n and_o of_o the_o verity_n of_o its_o tradition_n of_o which_o he_o say_v there_o num_fw-la ergo_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la pacta_fw-la conventa_fw-la non_fw-la obse●vaverit_fw-la i.e._n adhaerendo_fw-la regulae_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la &_o transgressus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la eam_fw-la quae_fw-la fit_a apud_fw-la nos_fw-la confessionem_fw-la propter_fw-la eum_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la stet●t_fw-la suae_fw-la professioni_fw-la abstinebimus_fw-la nos_fw-la quoque_fw-la a_o veritate_fw-la i.e._n huius_fw-la confessionis_fw-la and_o he_o call_v this_o afterward_o via_fw-la regius_fw-la &_o trita_fw-la non_fw-la dubit_fw-la averit_fw-la quispiam_fw-la viam_fw-la ingre●i_fw-la propter_fw-la dissensionem_fw-la of_o some_o other_o strayin_n say_v utetur_fw-la viâ_fw-la regiâ_fw-la &_o tritâ_fw-la &_o sejuncta_fw-la a_o periculo_fw-la ita_fw-la cùm_fw-la alii_fw-la alia_fw-la dicant_fw-la de_fw-la veritate_fw-la huius_fw-la confessionis_fw-la &_o regulae_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la non_fw-it est_fw-la discedendum_fw-la sed_fw-la est_fw-la exactiùs_fw-la &_o diligentiùs_fw-la inquirenda_fw-la ejus_fw-la exactissima_fw-la &_o accuratissima_fw-la cognitio_fw-la ibid._n he_o say_v in_o solâ_fw-la veritate_fw-la &_o antiquâ_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la i.e._n ecclesiâ_fw-la derive_v its_o doctrine_n from_o antiquity_n est_fw-la perfectissima_fw-la cognitio_fw-la &_o ea_fw-la quae_fw-la estreverâ_fw-la optima_fw-la haeresis_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la electio_fw-la and_o homo_fw-la dei_fw-la esse_fw-la &_o domino_fw-la fidelis_fw-la esse_fw-la perdidit_fw-la qui_fw-la adversus_fw-la ecclesiasticam_fw-la recalcitravit_fw-la traditionem_fw-la &_o in_o humanarum_fw-la haeresum_fw-la desiluit_fw-la ●piniones_fw-la there_o he_o say_v qui_fw-la in_o ignoratione_n quidem_fw-la versantur_fw-la sunt_fw-la gentes_fw-la qui_fw-la autem_fw-la in_o scientiâ_fw-la vera_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la qui_fw-la verò_fw-la in_o opinion_n ti_fw-mi qui_fw-la sectantur_fw-la haereses_fw-la and_o afterward_o exciso_fw-la ostio_fw-la &_o muro_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la jam_fw-la perfosso_fw-it veritatem_fw-la transgredientes_fw-la efficiuntur_fw-la principes_fw-la ac_fw-la deuce_n myst●riorum_fw-la animae_fw-la impiorum_fw-la and_o then_o show_v as_o also_o irenaeus_n and_o tertullian_n the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n ancient_a that_o of_o heretic_n late_a he_o go_v on_o exiis_fw-la quae_fw-la dicto_fw-la sunt_fw-la manifestum_fw-la esse_fw-la ex●stimo_fw-la unam_fw-la esse_fw-la veram_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la eam_fw-la quae_fw-la verè_fw-la est_fw-la antiqua_fw-la quam_fw-la conantur_fw-la haereses_fw-la in_o multas_fw-la discindere_fw-la et_fw-la substantiâ_fw-la ergo_fw-la &_o cogitation_n &_o principio_fw-la &_o excellentiâ_fw-la solam_fw-la esse_fw-la dicimus_fw-la quam_fw-la etiam_fw-la dicimus_fw-la antiquam_fw-la &_o catholicam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la in_fw-la unitatem_fw-la unius_fw-la fidei_fw-la quae_fw-la est_fw-la ex_fw-la proprus_a testamentis_fw-la i.e._n contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n in_o quibus_fw-la dei_fw-la voluntate_fw-la per_fw-la unum_fw-la hominem_fw-la congregat_fw-la eos_fw-la qui_fw-la jam_fw-la sunt_fw-la ordinati_fw-la 13.48_o ordinati_fw-la act._n 13.48_o quos_fw-la praedestinavit_fw-la deus_fw-la etc._n etc._n say_v he_o ecclesiae_fw-la quoque_fw-la eminentia_fw-la sicut_fw-la principium_fw-la constructionis_fw-la est_fw-la ex_fw-la unitate_fw-la omne_fw-la alia_fw-la superans_fw-la &_o nihil_fw-la habens_fw-la sibi_fw-la simile_n vel_fw-la aequale_fw-la and_o that_o fuit_fw-la una_fw-la omnium_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la sicut_fw-la doctrina_fw-la ita_fw-la etiam_fw-la traditio_fw-la exit_fw-la hear_v sibus_fw-la autem_fw-la aliae_fw-la quidem_fw-la appellantur_fw-la ex_fw-la nomine_fw-la aliae_fw-la ex_fw-la loco_fw-la aliae_fw-la ex_fw-la gente_fw-la aliae_fw-la ex_fw-la propriis_fw-la dogmatibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n a_o parallel_n to_o which_o both_o in_o his_o description_n of_o the_o church_n and_o heresy_n may_v be_v observe_v in_o our_o present_a time_n these_o thing_n than_o he_o have_v of_o the_o church_n there_o where_o he_o have_v those_o thing_n our_o author_n bring_v of_o the_o scripture_n and_o in_o all_o these_o thing_n he_o seem_v to_o own_o and_o remit_v we_o to_o this_o church_n antiqua_fw-la sola_fw-la una_fw-la eminens_fw-la &_o omne_fw-la alia_fw-la superans_fw-la as_o a_o guide_n that_o can_v sail_v we_o in_o necessary_a truth_n and_o as_o he_o press_v the_o study_v of_o the_o scripture_n to_o the_o contemplative_a so_o he_o leave_v the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o verity_n of_o its_o doctrine_n as_o a_o secure_a refuge_n for_o all_o the_o rest_n that_o can_v intend_v such_o study_n pag._n 222._o l._n 10_o stephen_n be_v against_o rebaptise_v any_o heretic_n and_o the_o other_o the_o eastern_a and_o african_a bisho_n be_v for_o rebaptise_v all_o any_o heretic_n i.e._n such_o who_o former_a baptism_n be_v not_o for_o want_v of_o a_o right_a form_n null_v the_o baptise_v of_o who_o when_o return_v to_o the_o church_n be_v indeed_o no_o rebaptisation_n and_o thus_o s._n stephen_n and_o latter_a council_n well_o accord_v of_o who_o sanctity_n and_o orthodoxness_n thus_o vincentius_n lerinensis_n 9_o lerinensis_n c._n 9_o after_o these_o council_n quo_fw-la cuique_fw-la floreret_fw-la religiosior_fw-la eo_fw-la promptiùs_fw-la novellis_fw-la adinventionibus_fw-la co●trairet_fw-la exemplis_fw-la talibus_fw-la plena_fw-la sunt_fw-la omne_fw-la sed_fw-la ne_fw-la longum_fw-la siat_a unum_fw-la aliquod_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolicâ_fw-la potissimùm_fw-la sede_n sumemus_fw-la ut_fw-la omnes_fw-la luce_fw-fr clariùs_fw-la videant_fw-la beatorum_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la beata_fw-la successi_fw-la cue_n n●â_fw-la vi_fw-la semper_fw-la quanto_fw-la study_v quantâ_fw-la contentione_n defenderit_fw-la susceptae_fw-la semel_fw-la rel●gionis_fw-la integritatem_fw-la speak_v of_o this_o stephen_n m●an_v w●●le_v the_o affection_n &_o reverence_n this_o author_n pretend_v to_o antiquity_n and_o the_o holy_a father_n be_v not_o unliable_a to_o suspicion_n when_o he_o upon_o every_o or_o rather_o no_o occasion_n give_v endeavour_n to_o uncover_v their_o nakedness_n and_o lay_v open_a their_o deficiency_n and_o division_n those_o that_o defend_v their_o departure_n from_o the_o novelty_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n by_o their_o retreat_n to_o antiquity_n and_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n methinks_v shall_v have_v a_o great_a tenderness_n of_o their_o reputation_n but_o here_o meanwhile_o the_o more_o he_o aggravate_v the_o dissenting_n about_o this_o point_n the_o more_o he_o confirm_v the_o necessity_n of_o the_o infallibility_n of_o general_n council_n for_o fetle_v such_o truth_n and_o allay_v such_o contest_v to_o which_o council_n we_o owe_v the_o present_a peace_n that_o the_o church_n in_o latter_a time_n enjoy_v in_o this_o matter_n once_o so_o much_o agitate_a pag._n 225_o l._n 13_o what_o course_n be_v take_v in_o this_o important_a controversy_n with_o samosatenus_fw-la concern_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n to_o find_v out_o the_o certain_a sense_n of_o scripture_n do_v they_o appeal_v to_o any_o infallible_a guide_n nothing_o like_o it_o but_o in_o the_o council_n of_o antioch_n etc._n etc._n the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n may_v be_v clear_v either_o by_o compare_v scripture_n etc._n etc._n or_o by_o examine_v church-tradition_n for_o confute_v
to_o s._n austin_n he_o be_v far_o from_o call_v his_o sense_n vox_fw-la aperta_fw-la against_o they_o or_o from_o not_o believe_v they_o and_o not_o he_o to_o be_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o this_o voice_n of_o the_o pastor_n concern_v who_o unite_v in_o such_o a_o body_n he_o say_v haeres_fw-la say_v lib._n de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la sufficit_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la contra_fw-la aliquid_fw-la sentire_fw-la ut_fw-la illud_fw-la non_fw-la recipiamus_fw-la in_o fidem_fw-la but_o the_o father_n evident_o speak_v of_o some_o catholic_n bishop_n hold_v something_o contrary_a to_o scripture_n but_o also_o to_o the_o other_o bishop_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o word_n follow_v sed_fw-la qui_fw-la custodito_fw-la vnitatis_fw-la &_o charitatis_fw-la vinculo_fw-la i.e._n with_o the_o rest_n from_o who_o they_o differ_v in_o opinion_n in_o hoc_fw-la incidunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n nor_o have_v we_o any_o so_o sure_a judge_n when_o some_o catholic_n bishop_n do_v so_o as_o this_o whole_a body_n of_o they_o dissent_v he_o proceed_v ib._n l._n 14._o by_o which_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o he_o suppose_v no_o infallibility_n in_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n i.e._n single_a or_o a_o few_o contradict_v by_o the_o more_o and_o superior_a ib._n l._n 16._o and_o in_o term_n he_o assert_n 19_o assert_n de_fw-fr vnita_fw-la eccles_n c._n 19_o that_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v prove_v by_o nothing_o but_o plain_a scripture_n neither_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o optatus_n or_o s._n ambrose_n or_o innumcrable_a bishop_n nor_o council_n nor_o miracle_n interme_v he_o assert_n no._n these_o be_v not_o s._n augustine_n word_n true_o translate_v or_o quote_v after_o s._n austin_n ib._n c._n 18._o have_v thus_o speak_v to_o the_o donatist_n remotis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la talibus_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la svam_fw-la demonstrent_fw-la si_fw-la possunt_fw-la non_fw-la in_o sermonibus_fw-la &_o rum●ribus_fw-la afrorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o conciliis_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la suorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o literis_fw-la quorumlibet_fw-la disputatorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o signis_fw-la &_o prodigiis_fw-la fallacibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n sed_fw-la in_o praescripto_fw-la legis_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o again_o ‖_o ecclesiam_fw-la in_o scripture_n canonicis_fw-la debemus_fw-la agnoscere_fw-la non_fw-la in_o vanis_fw-la hominum_fw-la rumoribus_fw-la &_o opinionibus_fw-la &_o factis_fw-la &_o dictis_fw-la &_o visis_fw-la inquirere_fw-la thing_n the_o donatist_n plead_v against_o he_o i_o say_v after_o this_o he_o proceed_v in_o these_o word_n which_o be_v translate_v by_o the_o dr_n sed_fw-la utrum_fw-la ipsi_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la teneant_fw-la non_fw-la nisi_fw-la de_fw-fr divinarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la canonicis_fw-la libris_fw-la ostendant_fw-la quia_fw-la nec_fw-la nos_fw-la propterea_fw-la dicimus_fw-la nobis_fw-la credi_fw-la oportere_fw-la quòd_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la christi_fw-la sumus_fw-la quia_fw-la ipsam_fw-la quam_fw-la tenemus_fw-la commendavit_fw-la milevitanus_fw-la optatus_n vel_fw-la mediolanensis_fw-la ambrose_n vel_fw-la alii_fw-la innumerabiles_fw-la nostrae_fw-la communionis_fw-la episcopi_fw-la aut_fw-la quia_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la collegarum_fw-la conciliis_fw-la ipsa_fw-la praedicata_fw-la est_fw-la aut_fw-la quia_fw-la per_fw-la totum_fw-la in_o locis_fw-la sanctis_fw-la quae_fw-la frequentat_fw-la nostra_fw-la communio_fw-la tanta_fw-la mirabilia_fw-la vel_fw-la exauditionum_fw-la vel_fw-la sanitatum_fw-la fiunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n where_o s._n austin_n say_v not_o that_o the_o church_n can_v be_v prove_v by_o nothing_o but_o plain_a scripture_n or_o deny_v that_o general_a council_n or_o true_a miracle_n or_o universal_a tradition_n be_v no_o sufficient_a proof_n thereof_o of_o which_o general_a council_n he_o speak_v nothing_o here_o but_o of_o those_o of_o the_o two_o party_n concilia_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la suorum_fw-la on_o one_o side_n and_o concilia_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la cellegarum_fw-la on_o the_o other_o and_o we_o may_v see_v in_o the_o quotation_n before_o note_n on_o p._n 251._o l._n 12._o s._n austin_n know_v the_o scripture_n from_o the_o church_n and_o the_o church_n from_o other_o mark_n among_o which_o true_a miracle_n sure_o be_v the_o high_a proof_n of_o any_o truth_n and_o so_o be_v of_o the_o apostle_n their_o be_v god_n true_a church_n and_o minister_n but_o the_o father_n to_o the_o donatist_n allow_v with_o he_o the_o scripture_n urge_v the_o church_n as_o demonstrable_a by_o their_o clear_a testimony_n not_o as_o the_o only_a testimony_n but_o the_o chief_a and_o such_o as_o more_o than_o this_o need_v not_o and_o exact_v of_o they_o that_o he_o wave_v these_o other_o proof_n on_o his_o side_n wherein_o he_o have_v much_o the_o advantage_n of_o they_o by_o his_o innumerabiles_fw-la episcopi_fw-la which_o sure_o ought_v to_o carry_v it_o against_o they_o and_o vera_fw-la miracula_fw-la so_o they_o will_v the_o urge_n of_o their_o council_n far_o inferior_a and_o their_o miracle_n fallacious_a on_o their_o side_n and_o bring_v in_o their_o defence_n anti-scripture_n to_o his_o scripture_n in_o these_o thing_n i_o refer_v myself_o to_o the_o candid_a examiner_n of_o the_o place_n ib._n l._n 6._o he_o endeavour_v to_o bring_v they_o to_o a_o resolution_n in_o the_o other_o point_n the_o church_n for_o the_o clear_n of_o this_o non-rebaptization_a but_o how_o do_v prove_v such_o a_o society_n as_o define_v non-rebaptization_a to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n clear_v non-rebaptization_a to_o be_v the_o right_a practice_n which_o s._n austin_n infer_v from_o it_o if_o this_o church_n prove_v yet_o may_v err_v in_o define_v it_o so_o pag._n 255._o l._n 10_o 3._o 10_o s._n austin_n de_fw-fr baptisn●_n l._n 2._o c._n 3._o and_o of_o these_o general_a council_n the_o former_a be_v often_o an●●nded_v by_o the_o latter_a as_o this_o place_n be_v often_o urge_v by_o protestant_n so_o it_o be_v answer_v to_o by_o catholic_n that_o take_v the_o father_n word_n plenaria_fw-la concilia_fw-la or_o general_a council_n as_o relate_v to_o the_o word_n immediate_o precede_v quae_fw-la fiunt_fw-la ex_fw-la universo_fw-it orbe_fw-la christiano_n which_o be_v not_o necessary_a n._n 1_o such_o general_a council_n may_v correct_v and_o amend_v one_o another_o the_o latter_a the_o former_a as_o to_o several_a thing_n though_o never_o as_o to_o dogmata_fw-la fidei_fw-la for_o as_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n 12._o bellarmine_n de_fw-fr council_n l._n 2._o c._n 12._o in_o conciliis_fw-la maxima_fw-la pars_fw-la actorum_fw-la ad_fw-la fidem_fw-la non_fw-la pertinet_fw-la sed_fw-la tantùm_fw-la ipsa_fw-la nuda_fw-la decreta_fw-la &_o ea_fw-la non_fw-la omne_fw-la sed_fw-la tantùm_fw-la quae_fw-la proponuntur_fw-la tanquam_fw-la de_fw-la fide_fw-la interdum_fw-la enim_fw-la concilia_fw-la aliquid_fw-la definiunt_fw-la non_fw-la ut_fw-la certum_fw-la sed_fw-la ut_fw-la probabile_fw-la he_o grant_v ibid._n that_o concilia_fw-la in_o judiciis_fw-la particularibus_fw-la i.e._n ubi_fw-la non_fw-la affirmatur_fw-la aliquid_fw-la generale_fw-mi &_o toti_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la common_a errare_fw-la possunt_fw-la so_o he_o grant_v 2._o l._n 7._o c._n quad_n aliqua_fw-la praecepta_fw-la morum_fw-la concilia_fw-la plenaria_fw-la priora_fw-la emendari_fw-la per_fw-la posteriora_fw-la upon_o s._n augustine_n reason_n quando_fw-la experimento_fw-la aliquo_fw-la aperitur_fw-la quod_fw-la clausum_fw-la erat_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o s._n augustine_n word_n mean_v this_o so_o catholic_n grant_v it_o n._n 2_o but_o 2_o if_o s._n augustine_n word_n must_v be_v understand_v of_o such_o plenary_a and_o absolute_o general_a council_n without_o any_o remit_v of_o the_o high_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n whenas_o indeed_o these_o word_n vniversale_fw-la generale_fw-mi plenarium_fw-la be_v apply_v to_o council_n of_o a_o small_a collection_n of_o bishop_n when_o this_o from_o several_a partss_n and_o a_o little_a after_o this_o quotation_n the_o father_n say_v concern_v rebapization_n that_o diutiùs_fw-la per_fw-la orbis_fw-la terrarum_fw-la regiones_fw-la multis_fw-la hinc_fw-la atque_fw-la hinc_fw-la disputationibuus_fw-la &_o collationibus_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la pertractata_fw-la est_fw-la and_o several_a synod_n be_v for_o it_o hold_v in_o the_o east_n as_o well_o as_o in_o africa_n 4._o africa_n see_v euseb_n l._n 7._o c._n 4._o thus_o what_o the_o father_n say_v here_o will_v make_v nothing_o for_o he_o as_o to_o his_o present_a controversy_n with_o the_o donatist_n about_o rebaptisation_n nay_o more_o against_o he_o for_o there_o be_v no_o two_o such_o council_n that_o be_v both_o general_n whereof_o the_o latter_a have_v amend_v the_o former_a concern_v rebaptisation_n at_o all_o and_o have_v there_o the_o same_o uncertainty_n of_o truth_n will_v have_v be_v in_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o latter_a as_o of_o the_o former_a and_o in_o this_o case_n the_o donatist_n will_v not_o have_v fail_v to_o have_v take_v the_o advantage_n of_o the_o former_a general_n council_n n._n 3_o but_o 3_o apply_v s._n augustine_n word_n ipsa_fw-la plenaria_fw-la sapè_fw-la priora_fw-la posterioribus_fw-la emendari_fw-la as_o in_o reason_n we_o ought_v to_o the_o time_n precede_v his_o as_o also_o consider_v those_o other_o word_n he_o add_v sine_fw-la ullo_fw-la typho_n sacrilegae_fw-la superbiae_fw-la etc._n etc._n he_o seem_v to_o speak_v 14._o speak_v see_v contra_fw-la maximinum_n l._n 3._o c._n 14._o of_o the_o plenary_a but_o illegal_a arian_n council_n that_o be_v not_o plenary_a in_o the_o large_a
doubtful_a and_o obscure_a a_o nature_n as_o rebaptization_n be_v our_o author_n allow_v this_o presumption_n on_o the_o church_n side_n ought_v he_o not_o much_o more_o in_o a_o clear_a pag._n 258._o l._n ult_n s._n augustine_n word_n the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n have_v be_v confirm_v by_o a_o general_n council_n etc._n etc._n it_o may_v now_o 〈…〉_o now_o say_v that_o we_o follow_v what_o truth_n have_v declare_v do_v not_o s._n austin_n here_o from_o non-rebaptization_a be_v confirm_v by_o a_o general_n council_n which_o examine_v custom_n and_o scripture_n declare_v himself_o secure_a of_o this_o truth_n not_o to_o be_v amend_v by_o latter_a council_n pag._n 259._o l._n 13._o that_o in_o a_o matter_n of_o so_o doubtful_a and_o obscure_a a_o nature_n etc._n etc._n we_o be_v to_o believe_v that_o to_o be_v the_o truth_n which_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n agree_v in_o etc._n etc._n and_o afterward_o he_o faith_n in_o such_o a_o case_n as_o this_o and_o so_o he_o say_v before_o 257._o before_o p._n 257._o in_o a_o question_n so_o doubtful_a he_o agree_v to_o what_o s._n austin_n say_v and_o think_v a_o man_n very_o much_o relieve_v by_o follow_v so_o evident_a a_o consent_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n but_o the_o not_o so_o relieve_v s._n austin_n declare_v heretic_n not_o by_o virtue_n of_o any_o infallibility_n but_o the_o unreasonableness_n of_o believe_v that_o so_o many_o so_o wise_a so_o disinterest_v person_n shall_v be_v deceive_v that_o in_o a_o matter_n of_o so_o doubtful_a and_o obscure_a a_o nature_n what_o mean_v this_o limitation_n be_v we_o to_o believe_v that_o to_o be_v truth_n which_o council_n determine_v in_o matter_n obscure_a i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v general_o obscure_a but_o not_o so_o in_o matter_n more_o clear_a one_o will_v think_v the_o contrary_a rather_o but_o who_o be_v to_o judge_v when_o the_o question_n or_o matter_n be_v obscure_a since_o on_o this_o depend_v our_o assent_n to_o the_o council_n the_o donatist_n for_o 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this_o will_v be_v as_o much_o as_o we_o desire_v ib._n l._n 3_o let_v the_o same_o evidence_n be_v produce_v for_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n from_o the_o apostolical_a time_n in_o the_o matter_n in_o dispute_n between_o our_o church_n and_o that_o of_o rome_n and_o the_o controversy_n of_o infallibility_n may_v be_v lay_v aside_o what_o be_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n from_o the_o apostolical_a time_n be_v the_o question_n between_o s._n austin_n and_o the_o donatist_n for_o the_o donatist_n also_o plead_v a_o contrary_a tradition_n against_o the_o catholic_n see_v firmilian_a ep._n 75._o ●pud_fw-la cyprian_n caeterùm_fw-la nos_fw-la veritati_fw-la &_o consuetudinem_fw-la jungimus_fw-la etc._n etc._n as_o also_o the_o same_o consent_n be_v controvert_v now_o concern_v now_o for_o a_o sufficient_a and_o certain_a decision_n of_o the_o truth_n in_o this_o question_n viz._n what_o the_o former_a tradition_n be_v or_o what_o be_v our_o lord_n will_v in_o this_o matter_n s._n austin_n urge_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o present_a church_n meet_v in_o a_o general_n council_n and_o there_o discuss_v the_o matter_n where_o s._n austin_n do_v not_o require_v the_o donatists_n submission_n to_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n from_o the_o apostolical_a time_n first_o prove_v to_o they_o i.e._n they_o confess_v it_o so_o for_o this_o if_o prove_v to_o they_o donatist_n do_v not_o nor_o can_v not_o decline_v as_o now_o neither_o do_v the_o dr._n let_v the_o pope_n supremacy_n &c_n &c_n be_v prove_v by_o a_o universal_a consent_n of_o antiquity_n etc._n etc._n p._n 244._o and_o here_o let_v the_o same_o evidence_n be_v produce_v for_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n from_o the_o apostolical_a time_n etc._n etc._n that_o be_v as_o i_o understand_v he_o let_v such_o a_o consent_n be_v evidence_v to_o we_o but_o s._n austin_n require_v their_o submission_n and_o belief_n to_o the_o latter_a general_n council_n of_o nice_a or_o arles_n or_o both_o it_o matter_n not_o declare_v what_o be_v the_o former_a apostolical_a tradition_n which_o if_o the_o infallibility_n of_o this_o council_n need_v not_o be_v stand_v on_o as_o to_o the_o donatist_n obedience_n yet_o it_o be_v in_o the_o council_n determination_n of_o any_o necessary_n as_o to_o christian_n believe_v in_o such_o necessary_n a_o truth_n of_o which_o necessary_n also_o this_o council_n not_o their_o subject_n be_v to_o judge_v and_o the_o father_n word_n will_v have_v weigh_v little_a with_o these_o african_n persuade_v they_o to_o obey_v the_o council_n sentence_n though_o a_o error_n therefore_o he_o fortify_v the_o council_n decree_v with_o the_o former_a expression_n christus_fw-la perhibet_fw-la testimonium_fw-la and_o in_o hâc_fw-la re_fw-la tenetur_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la veritas_fw-la pag._n 260._o l._n 9_o let_v they_o never_o think_v to_o fob_v we_o off_o with_o the_o consent_n of_o some_o latter_a age_n for_o a_o 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the_o roman_a church_n no_o but_o because_o you_o be_v not_o for_o any_o effectual_a way_n at_o all_o ib._n l._n 10_o but_o i_o pray_v sir_n be_v authority_n and_o infallibility_n all_o one_o in_o your_o account_n no._n n.o._n his_o affirm_v some_o of_o this_o author_n principle_n to_o take_v away_o the_o church_n authority_n as_o to_o some_o part_n of_o it_o as_o well_o as_o its_o infallibility_n make_v not_o these_o two_o one_o and_o therefore_o the_o pain_n here_o to_o prove_v these_o different_a and_o that_o one_o take_v not_o away_o the_o other_o be_v lose_v ib._n l._n 8_o we_o suppose_v that_o magistrate_n and_o parent_n and_o master_n have_v all_o of_o they_o a_o unquestionable_a authority_n but_o i_o never_o hear_v yet_o of_o any_o man_n that_o say_v they_o be_v infallible_a some_o part_n of_o the_o church_n authority_n be_v great_a than_o that_o of_o civil_a magistrase_n master_n or_o parent_n viz._n the_o decide_n of_o truth_n and_o error_n lawful_a and_o unlawful_a in_o 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a_o church_n fallible_a in_o necessary_n can_v in_o nothing_o at_o all_o which_o she_o propose_v just_o oblige_v her_o subject_n to_o any_o absolute_a and_o certain_a belief_n pag._n 264._o l._n 7._o these_o be_v strange_a way_n of_o argue_v etc._n etc._n strange_a indeed_o but_o not_o these_o or_o any_o like_a way_n of_o argue_v to_o be_v show_v in_o n.o._n ib._n l._n 6_o but_o it_o may_v be_v say_v etc._n etc._n but_o no_o such_o thing_n be_v say_v by_o n.o._n pag._n 266._o l._n 6._o the_o meaning_n of_o all_o this_o be_v etc._n etc._n i_o willing_o grant_v to_o our_o author_n without_o the_o demonstration_n of_o his_o many_o instance_n that_o if_o one_o use_v a_o guide_n afterward_o by_o experience_n find_v he_o have_v guide_v he_o wrong_n as_o he_o may_v find_v this_o when_o he_o miss_v of_o his_o end_n he_o have_v reason_n for_o the_o future_a to_o desert_v he_o and_o thus_o upon_o this_o supposition_n may_v any_o reject_v n._n oh_o guide_n a_o lawful_a general_n council_n but_o i_o hope_v this_o author_n be_v a_o man_n of_o more_o modesty_n than_o to_o say_v *_o that_o such_o council_n or_o universal_a consent_n of_o the_o church_n any_o other_o way_n know_v do_v misguide_v man_n in_o the_o principle_n of_o religion_n or_o common_a precept_n which_o be_v so_o plain_a that_o every_o christian_a may_v know_v their_o misguide_n and_o meanwhile_o the_o council_n themselves_o either_o not_o know_v it_o or_o know_v yet_o impose_v such_o falsity_n and_o that_o in_o the_o profession_n of_o their_o own_o faith_n as_o well_o as_o other_o or_o say_v *_o that_n they_o command_v they_o to_o believe_v against_o their_o eyesight_n in_o any_o thing_n but_o what_o themselves_o also_o do_v believe_v upon_o the_o divine_a revelation_n more_o infallible_a than_o sense_n or_o to_o break_v the_o plain_a command_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n or_o if_o he_o will_v say_v they_o do_v so_o i_o know_v n.o._n will_v say_v the_o contrary_n ib._n l._n 2_o and_o this_o be_v not_o to_o destroy_v all_o authority_n etc._n etc._n that_o a_o church-authority_n fallible_a may_v be_v of_o great_a use_n for_o its_o direction_n as_o it_o be_v say_v here_o by_o dr_n st_n so_o it_o be_v grant_v by_o n.o._n who_o also_o require_v submission_n of_o judgement_n to_o it_o though_o fallible_a especial_o from_o the_o illiterate_a for_o many_o good_a reason_n &c_n reason_n see_v the_o former_a dif●●●_n course_n §._o 37_o &c_n &c_n but_o will_v he_o allow_v as_o much_o pag._n 267._o l._n 1._o for_o they_o may_v be_v of_o great_a use_n for_o the_o direction_n of_o unskilful_a person_n in_o matter_n that_o be_v doubtful_a but_o he_o will_v not_o say_v here_o in_o any_o necessary_n doubtful_a since_o he_o contend_v that_o these_o be_v plain_a also_o to_o the_o unskilful_a ib●l_n 12._o i_o shall_v now_o show_v what_o real_a authority_n be_v still_o leave_v in_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n though_o infallibility_n be_v take_v away_o that_o a_o real_a authority_n be_v still_o 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