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peccatum_fw-la non_fw-la imputeâ—ur_fw-la quamuis_fw-la reatu_fw-la svo_fw-la iam_fw-la soluto_fw-la manet_fw-la tamen_fw-la etc._n etc._n to_o this_o be_v answer_v that_o the_o concupiscence_n of_o the_o flesh_n be_v forgeven_v in_o baptism_n not_o that_o it_o be_v not_o or_o remain_v not_o but_o that_o it_o be_v not_o impute_v into_o sin_n it_o remane_v still_o though_o the_o guilt_n be_v take_v away_o here_o now_o we_o see_v that_o s._n augustin_n affirm_v only_o that_o concupiscence_n be_v not_o quite_o take_v away_o by_o baptism_n but_o yet_o the_o guilt_n thereof_o be_v so_o that_o it_o be_v no_o more_o impute_v into_o the_o nature_n of_o a_o sin_n the_o cause_n why_o it_o be_v leave_v he_o utter_v in_o diverse_a place_n as_o when_o he_o say_v 4._o ad_fw-la agonem_fw-la manet_fw-la non_fw-la sibi_fw-la ad_fw-la illicita_fw-la consentientibus_fw-la nihil_fw-la omnino_fw-la nocitura_fw-la concupiscence_n remane_v to_o fight_v withal_o but_o yet_o in_o such_o sort_n as_o it_o can_v hurt_v we_o nothing_o at_o all_o if_o we_o consent_v not_o to_o her_o unlaufull_a suggestion_n secondlie_o we_o see_v that_o s._n augustin_n in_o this_o very_a place_n prove_v direct_o our_o very_a position_n that_o concupiscence_n in_o the_o baptize_v be_v not_o sin_n also_o that_o it_o have_v no_o guilt_n and_o that_o it_o do_v hurt_v nothing_o without_o consent_n whereby_o m._n charke_n lack_v of_o judgement_n and_o shame_n may_v be_v note_v in_o bring_v this_o place_n of_o all_o other_o against_o we_o &_o add_v that_o how_o soever_o the_o jesuit_n distinguish_v yet_o these_o sin_n the_o first_o motion_n of_o concupiscence_n which_o by_o the_o jesuit_n doctrine_n be_v so_o call_v figurativelie_o except_o we_o find_v mercy_n will_v find_v no_o figurative_a condemnation_n thyrdlie_o we_o may_v behold_v and_o lament_v the_o pitiful_a desperate_a resolution_n of_o our_o adversary_n who_o see_v and_o knowe_a their_o own_o weakness_n impudency_n yet_o to_o cover_v their_o misery_n dare_v abuse_v forge_n and_o falsify_v plain_a authority_n as_o in_o this_o place_n this_o shameless_a creature_n have_v do_v in_o so_o many_o point_n for_o first_o where_o as_o s._n augustin_n say_v concupiscence_n be_v forgyven_v in_o baptism_n he_o translate_v concupiscence_n be_v not_o so_o forgyven_v in_o baptism_n secondlie_o where_o as_o s._n augustine_n say_v it_o be_v forgyven_v not_o that_o it_o be_v not_o or_o remain_v not_o he_o translate_v not_o that_o it_o be_v not_o sin_n thirdlie_o for_o impute_v into_o sin_n he_o translate_v impute_v as_o sin_n fowerthlie_a he_o cut_v of_o the_o word_n immediate_o go_v before_o where_o s._n augustin_n say_v concupiscence_n in_o the_o parent_n baptize_v be_v no_o sin_n as_o also_o the_o voorde_n immediate_o folowe_a and_o affirm_v that_o concupiscence_n remain_v but_o without_o guilt_n and_o consequent_o can_v not_o be_v sin_n have_v this_o man_n any_o conscience_n any_o truth_n any_o good_a meaning_n any_o spark_n of_o grace_n seek_v he_o to_o instruct_v or_o to_o deceyve_v to_o prove_v and_o defend_v or_o to_o cover_v &_o dissemble_v be_v this_o he_o which_o protest_v such_o sincerity_n in_o his_o deal_n as_o before_o god_n and_o angel_n be_v this_o the_o credit_n of_o a_o puritan_n protestant_n o_o how_o miserable_a be_v those_o people_n which_o hang_v their_o soul_n upon_o the_o trust_n of_o such_o dissemble_n and_o deceyve_a man_n and_o this_o for_o the_o first_o place_n cite_v by_o m._n charke_n for_o his_o sentence_n of_o s._n augustin_n for_o he_o cit_v two_o chapiter_n in_o one_o book_n the_o first_o thereof_o have_v as_o you_o have_v see_v the_o other_o have_v no_o one_o word_n tendinge_v that_o way_n but_o clean_o to_o the_o contrary_n for_o s._n augustin_n lay_v down_o &_o prove_v our_o position_n of_o purpose_n in_o much_o more_o ample_a and_o vehement_a manner_n than_o i_o can_v against_o m_o charke_n and_o show_v it_o also_o by_o example_n how_o the_o apostle_n call_v concupiscence_n sin_n improper_o concup_n voco_fw-la peccatum_fw-la quia_fw-la peccato_fw-la facta_fw-la est_fw-la cum_fw-la iam_fw-la in_o regeneratis_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la ipsa_fw-la peccatum_fw-la si_fw-la autem_fw-la voco_fw-la lingua_fw-la locutio_fw-la quam_fw-la facit_fw-la lingua_fw-la &_o manus_fw-la voco_fw-la scriptura_fw-la quam_fw-la facit_fw-la manus_fw-la concupiscence_n be_v call_v sin_n because_o it_o be_v make_v in_o we_o by_o original_a sin_n whereas_o itself_o be_v not_o sin_n now_o in_o the_o regenerate_a improperlye_o even_o as_o the_o speech_n which_o the_o tongue_n make_v be_v call_v the_o tongue_n and_o the_o write_n which_o the_o hand_n make_v be_v call_v the_o hand_n the_o very_a same_o have_v s._n augustin_n against_o julian_n the_o pelagian_n towch_v s._n paul_n calling_n of_o concupiscence_n sin_n 11._o which_o in_o deed_n proper_o be_v no_o sin_n except_o consent_v be_v yield_v thereunto_o as_o there_o s._n augustin_n prove_v by_o the_o word_n of_o paul_n himself_o wherefore_o m._n charke_n do_v fraudulent_o allege_v his_o word_n against_o the_o same_o julian_n to_o prove_v that_o all_o concupiscence_n be_v sin_n for_o s._n augustin_n say_v only_o of_o concupiscence_n in_o general_a 3._o that_o it_o be_v sin_n and_o the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n and_o the_o cause_n of_o sin_n which_o be_v true_a of_o concupiscence_n in_o general_a as_o it_o comprehend_v all_o her_o branch_n and_o all_o estate_n of_o man_n for_o concupiscence_n be_v the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n in_o all_o man_n in_o they_o that_o gyve_v consent_v it_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o sin_n in_o they_o that_o be_v not_o baptize_v it_o be_v sin_n itself_o whether_o they_o gyve_v consent_n or_o no._n but_o yet_o be_v it_o not_o needful_a that_o all_o these_o point_n shall_v be_v verify_v in_o everye_o particular_a branch_n of_o concupiscence_n example_n as_o for_o example_n manslaughter_n in_o general_n comprehend_v murder_n chance_v medley_n execution_n by_o justice_n and_o the_o like_a and_o in_o respect_n of_o these_o branch_n a_o man_n may_v say_v