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that_o they_o be_v member_n of_o the_o pope_n which_o be_v antichrist_n yet_o we_o must_v account_v of_o they_o as_o of_o member_n of_o christ._n or_o how_o this_o be_v to_o judge_v wise_o joh._n 7._o 14._o whereas_o mr._n junius_n make_v the_o papacy_n or_o papal_a hierarchy_n to_o be_v a_o accident_n grow_v to_o the_o church_n apoyson_v in_o the_o church_n a_o pestilence_n a_o dropsy_n a_o gangrene_n in_o the_o body_n i_o show_v these_o inconvenience_n upon_o their_o own_o grant_n if_o the_o hierarchy_n be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o body_n but_o a_o accident_n a_o poison_n a_o gangrene_n etc._n etc._n what_o shall_v we_o think_v of_o all_o the_o action_n of_o that_o hierarchy_n their_o ministration_n of_o sacrament_n make_v of_o minister_n &_o whole_a church_n administration_n they_o can_v possible_o be_v the_o action_n of_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n neither_o of_o christ_n etc._n etc._n and_o now_o what_o be_v become_v of_o their_o true_a baptism_n and_o ordination_n of_o minister_n and_o how_o do_v god_n call_v in_o that_o church_n as_o before_o they_o reason_v etc._n etc._n here_o my_o opposite_a charge_v i_o 191._o with_o trifle_a and_o cavil_v etc._n etc._n as_o if_o similitude_n shall_v hold_v in_o all_o thing_n answ._n a_o similitude_n must_v hold_v in_o some_o thing_n and_o in_o that_o for_o which_o it_o be_v allege_v else_o it_o be_v vain_a to_o prove_v the_o hierarchy_n none_o of_o the_o church_n this_o instance_n be_v bring_v the_o pestilence_n dropsy_n gangrene_n be_v none_o of_o the_o body_n but_o a_o accident_n to_o disprove_v this_o i_o show_v that_o such_o accident_n can_v do_v no_o natural_a function_n of_o the_o body_n but_o the_o hierarchy_n do_v the_o natural_a function_n of_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o teach_v minister_a the_o sacrament_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o they_o be_v not_o accident_n but_o true_a member_n yea_o the_o chief_a of_o that_o church_n object_n the_o apostate_n jew_n be_v compare_v to_o brass_n and_o iron_n jer._n 6._o 28._o ezek._n 22._o 18._o shall_v we_o now_o conclude_v against_o judah_n to_o make_v a_o nullity_n of_o all_o the_o action_n ministration_n and_o church_n estate_n answ._n it_o be_v a_o live_a body_n that_o do_v action_n and_o not_o mettle_n if_o a_o simile_n be_v give_v of_o a_o live_a body_n and_o of_o a_o gangrene_n or_o scab_n that_o consume_v the_o life_n of_o that_o body_n all_o in_o reason_n will_v see_v that_o the_o body_n do_v action_n the_o scab_n or_o gangrene_n do_v none_o but_o in_o a_o similitude_n from_o metal_n there_o be_v no_o reason_n to_o speak_v of_o action_n but_o thus_o the_o whole_a company_n be_v compare_v to_o a_o lump_n of_o metal_n the_o godly_a be_v as_o pure_a silver_n psal._n 66._o 10._o the_o wicked_a be_v as_o dross_n psalm_n 119._o 119._o the_o fire_n of_o god_n word_n and_o tribulation_n try_v they_o 1._o pet._n 1_o 6._o 7._o the_o fine_a reserve_v the_o pure_a metal_n but_o consume_v or_o cast_v away_o the_o dross_n thus_o god_n threaten_v to_o do_v with_o the_o jew_n ezek._n 22._o 18._o 22._o here_o to_o bring_v in_o action_n of_o a_o live_a body_n be_v quite_o from_o the_o purpose_n but_o in_o the_o other_o simile_n not_o here_o i_o will_v say_v of_o dross_n can_v be_v no_o vessel_n for_o the_o fine_a or_o of_o brass_n iron_n and_o reprobate_a silver_n the_o lord_n make_v no_o choice_n for_o vessel_n in_o his_o sanctuary_n of_o like_a sort_n be_v his_o other_o wrest_a similitude_n of_o tree_n corn_n seed_n etc._n etc._n all_o which_o must_v be_v fit_v to_o their_o proper_a nature_n but_o what_o answer_n give_v he_o to_o the_o point_n itself_o first_o he_o break_v out_o into_o his_o charitable_a term_n say_v can_v any_o anabaptist_n write_v more_o anabaptistical_o than_o thus_o etc._n etc._n and_o after_o sundry_a reproach_n he_o reply_v in_o mr._n junius_n name_n and_o to_o my_o question_n can_v a_o scab_n or_o gangrene_n perform_v any_o action_n of_o a_o natural_a body_n or_o member_n he_o give_v no_o answer_n but_o ask_v again_o can_v a_o body_n that_o have_v a_o scab_n or_o gangrene_n perform_v no_o action_n of_o a_o natural_a body_n i_o answer_v yes_o it_o can_v and_o what_o now_o will_v it_o help_v his_o cause_n for_o though_o the_o body_n can_v do_v the_o natural_a action_n of_o it_o yet_o it_o be_v not_o possible_a for_o the_o scab_n or_o gangrene_n to_o do_v they_o either_o therefore_o the_o pope_n and_o his_o hierarchy_n must_v be_v other_o than_o accident_n gangrene_n poison_n dropsy_n etc._n etc._n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o in_o deed_n they_o be_v the_o chief_a member_n of_o that_o whore_n or_o else_o they_o can_v perform_v no_o ecclesiastical_a action_n as_o for_o his_o usual_a refuge_n when_o all_o other_o fail_v the_o
be_v not_o true_a baptism_n i_o constant_o affirm_v so_o do_v mr._n johnson_n 110._o himself_o while_o he_o stand_v in_o and_o write_v for_o the_o truth_n that_o the_o papist_n have_v turn_v baptism_n into_o a_o idol_n i_o have_v also_o former_o 73._o prove_v and_o will_v maintain_v against_o his_o answer_n that_o therefore_o it_o be_v detestable_a and_o curse_a unto_o they_o through_o their_o abuse_n of_o it_o do_v necessary_o follow_v for_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o wicked_a be_v a_o abomination_n to_o the_o lord_n pro._n 15._o 8._o that_o it_o shall_v be_v no_o better_o than_o the_o daily_a wash_n of_o our_o face_n be_v wrongful_o impute_v to_o we_o and_o mr._n cl._n who_o he_o cit_v in_o his_o margin_n profess_v to_o hold_v no_o such_o thing_n for_o our_o daily_a wash_n be_v no_o religious_a action_n nor_o sacrament_n at_o all_o but_o baptism_n by_o heretic_n and_o apostate_n be_v a_o religious_a action_n after_o their_o manner_n and_o a_o false_a sacrament_n therefore_o neither_o true_a neither_o yet_o none_o at_o all_o as_o our_o opposite_a with_o we_o once_o profess_v apolog._n p._n 110._o instead_o of_o prove_v it_o true_a baptism_n he_o bring_v reason_n to_o show_v that_o if_o it_o be_v a_o idol_n and_o lie_a sign_n it_o ought_v to_o be_v renounce_v and_o a_o other_o receive_v this_o he_o know_v the_o anabaptist_n do_v practice_v so_o it_o be_v no_o conviction_n of_o they_o all_z but_o he_o bend_v his_o force_n now_o against_o we_o and_o leave_v they_o let_v we_o try_v what_o he_o say_v 1._o because_o say_v he_o idol_n and_o lie_a sign_n and_o fiction_n be_v not_o of_o god_n but_o of_o the_o devil_n who_o be_v a_o liar_n and_o father_n thereof_o joh._n 8._o 44._o rom._n 3._o 4._o answ._n i_o grant_v that_o which_o he_o say_v but_o he_o conclude_v not_o the_o question_n idol_n so_o far_o as_o they_o be_v idol_n and_o lie_n be_v whole_o of_o the_o devil_n and_o so_o far_o forth_o to_o be_v renounce_v but_o some_o idol_n and_o lie_n be_v make_v of_o god_n true_a ordinance_n and_o of_o his_o good_a creature_n as_o paul_n say_v of_o the_o gentile_n that_o they_o change_v the_o truth_n of_o god_n into_o a_o lie_n and_o worship_v and_o serve_v the_o creature_n rom._n 1._o 25._o here_o the_o gentile_n lie_v be_v to_o be_v do_z away_o and_o their_o idolatry_n renounce_v but_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n be_v to_o be_v retain_v and_o a_o holy_a use_n of_o the_o good_a creature_n may_v be_v have_v which_o they_o abuse_v so_o we_o have_v renounce_v the_o popish_a idolatry_n and_o lie_n which_o they_o have_v bring_v upon_o god_n sacrament_n but_o the_o truth_n we_o retain_v 2._o a_o idol_n or_o such_o a_o baptism_n as_o be_v no_o more_o than_o a_o daily_a wash_n of_o our_o face_n can_v be_v the_o sign_n and_o seal_n of_o god_n true_a and_o everlasting_a covenant_n etc._n etc._n answ._n i_o grant_v it_o and_o from_o his_o own_o word_n conclude_v against_o he_o baptism_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v former_o prove_v to_o be_v a_o idol_n because_o they_o give_v to_o the_o creature_n and_o work_n of_o man_n hand_n that_o honour_n which_o be_v due_a unto_o christ_n only_o therefore_o it_o can_v be_v a_o sign_n and_o seal_n of_o god_n everlasting_a covenant_n by_o his_o own_o grant_n as_o for_o we_o we_o retain_v no_o idol_n but_o god_n truth_n only_o as_o before_o i_o show_v 3._o the_o sign_n in_o a_o sacrament_n be_v that_o which_o be_v outward_a and_o visible_a which_o in_o baptism_n be_v wash_v with_o water_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n if_o this_o be_v a_o fiction_n and_o lie_a sign_n in_o the_o church_n aforesaid_a then_o be_v it_o not_o the_o lord_n and_o they_o there_o baptize_v have_v not_o then_o the_o outward_a visible_a sign_n which_o the_o lord_n ordain_v to_o be_v have_v of_o his_o people_n and_o therefore_o be_v bind_v to_o get_v it_o unto_o they_o where_o it_o may_v be_v have_v rom._n 4._o 11._o &_o 6._o 3._o 4._o act._n 10._o 47._o 48._o etc._n etc._n answ._n 1._o the_o first_o part_n of_o his_o reason_n be_v unperfect_o set_v down_o for_o wash_v with_o water_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o the_o wash_n away_o of_o sin_n by_o and_o in_o god_n institution_n only_o by_o which_o institution_n it_o be_v to_o be_v minister_v to_o none_o but_o the_o faithful_a and_o their_o seed_n act._n 8._o 36._o 37._o &_o 2._o 38._o 39_o if_o it_o be_v not_o minister_v according_a to_o this_o ordinance_n of_o god_n it_o be_v not_o the_o sign_n of_o his_o grace_n in_o that_o abuse_n though_o it_o be_v the_o thing_n which_o god_n in_o the_o right_a use_n have_v appoint_v for_o a_o sign_n 2._o he_o will_v deceive_v his_o reader_n as_o if_o we_o hold_v wash_n shall_v be_v with_o any_o other_o creature_n than_o water_n or_o in_o any_o other_o name_n then_o the_o lord_n these_o thing_n we_o know_v be_v in_o themselves_o the_o true_a ordinance_n of_o christ_n but_o by_o antichrist_n turn_v to_o a_o lie_n while_o he_o false_o apply_v they_o to_o his_o adulterous_a synagogue_n which_o christ_n have_v give_v to_o his_o church_n only_o and_o while_o he_o idolatrous_o give_v that_o grace_n to_o the_o work_n of_o his_o sacrilegious_a priest_n which_o be_v peculiar_a to_o christ_n and_o his_o blood_n it_o be_v the_o true_a sign_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v by_o antichrist_n turn_v to_o a_o lie_n and_o if_o we_o shall_v devise_v to_o ourselves_o any_o other_o sign_n we_o shall_v be_v liar_n like_o he_o who_o have_v devise_v cream_n spittle_n and_o other_o like_a element_n synful_o join_v with_o his_o baptism_n 4._o that_o also_o be_v to_o be_v do_z without_o delay_n see_v the_o neglect_n of_o baptism_n be_v sin_n and_o no_o unbaptise_v may_v eat_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n etc._n etc._n answ._n it_o be_v true_a and_o so_o we_o if_o we_o have_v not_o be_v baptize_v with_o water_n etc._n etc._n will_v do_v it_o without_o delay_n but_o he_o trifle_v insist_v upon_o the_o outward_a element_n which_o he_o know_v we_o have_v and_o leave_v the_o main_a thing_n the_o relation_n to_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n which_o we_o have_v not_o in_o that_o antichristian_a synagogue_n 5._o if_o any_o retain_v a_o idol_n baptism_n etc._n etc._n and_o presume_v to_o come_v to_o the_o lord_n table_n they_o eat_v judgement_n to_o themselves_o answ._n we_o retain_v no_o idol_n baptism_n but_o have_v put_v away_o the_o idol_n and_o the_o lie_n and_o retain_v the_o truth_n only_o as_o before_o be_v show_v the_o same_o we_o answer_v to_o his_o six_o reason_n which_o be_v but_o a_o repetition_n and_o enlargement_n of_o his_o former_a as_o be_v his_o manner_n 7._o neither_o can_v it_o be_v think_v that_o repentance_n which_o still_o they_o speak_v of_o shall_v ever_o make_v a_o lie_n to_o be_v a_o truth_n and_o idol_n to_o be_v god_n ordinance_n etc._n etc._n for_o though_o repentance_n find_v mercy_n with_o god_n for_o a_o lie_n yet_o a_o lie_n be_v a_o lie_n still_o and_o a_o idol-vanity_n zach._n 10._o 2._o jer._n 10._o 8._o joh._n 8._o 44._o &_o 14._o 6._o &_o 17._o 17._o with_o 2._o cor._n 6._o 14._o 15._o 16._o answ._n it_o be_v true_a of_o such_o idol_n and_o lie_n as_o the_o scripture_n which_o he_o cit_v speak_v of_o but_o there_o be_v other_o idol_n and_o lie_n which_o by_o man_n be_v make_v of_o god_n himself_o and_o of_o his_o word_n and_o ordinance_n which_o by_o god_n grace_n upon_o man_n repentance_n and_o faith_n be_v restore_v to_o the_o first_o truth_n as_o the_o gentile_n change_v the_o truth_n of_o god_n into_o a_o lie_n rom._n 1._o 25._o and_o change_v the_o glory_n of_o the_o incorruptible_a god_n into_o a_o image_n rom._n 1._o 23._o and_o israel_n change_v god_n their_o glory_n into_o the_o similitude_n of_o a_o ox_n psal._n 106._o 20._o when_o they_o repent_v of_o their_o change_v the_o truth_n into_o a_o lie_n they_o retain_v the_o truth_n still_o and_o keep_v that_o god_n who_o before_o they_o ignorant_o worship_v and_o of_o who_o they_o have_v make_v a_o idol_n to_o themselves_o act._n 17._o 23._o so_o for_o god_n ordinance_n as_o if_o the_o israelite_n have_v make_v idol_n of_o jachin_n and_o boaz_n the_o two_o sacramental_a pillar_n in_o the_o temple_n 2._o chron._n 3._o 17._o and_o have_v burn_v incense_n to_o they_o as_o they_o do_v to_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n 2._o king_n 18._o 4._o they_o shall_v have_v repent_v of_o and_o put_v away_o their_o idolatry_n but_o have_v retain_v those_o pillar_n still_o for_o such_o sign_n as_o god_n have_v ordain_v they_o but_o such_o pillar_n and_o post_n as_o israel_n have_v invent_v of_o their_o own_o head_n and_o set_v they_o by_o the_o lord_n post_n ezek._n 43._o 8._o no_o repentance_n can_v make_v they_o
the_o lord_n post_n but_o they_o must_v have_v be_v utter_o take_v away_o so_o in_o popish_a baptism_n water_n be_v the_o lord_n ordinance_n by_o they_o abuse_v and_o turn_v to_o a_o idol_n salt_n oil_n etc._n etc._n be_v antichrists_n ordinance_n set_v up_o also_o for_o idol_n these_o latter_a we_o utter_o reject_v because_o they_o be_v never_o god_n ordinance_n in_o baptism_n the_o water_n we_o retain_v have_v put_v away_o only_o the_o abuse_n and_o lie_v of_o antichrist_n annex_v thereto_o if_o this_o be_v not_o so_o than_o the_o jew_n shall_v not_o only_o have_v repent_v of_o and_o put_v away_o their_o lie_n when_o they_o use_v those_o lie_a word_n the_o temple_n of_o the_o lord_n the_o temple_n of_o the_o lord_n etc._n etc._n jer._n 7._o 4._o but_o they_o must_v have_v destroy_v the_o temple_n itself_o also_o and_o whereas_o the_o papist_n and_o other_o heretic_n make_v lie_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o of_o christ_n holy_a word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n make_v their_o idol_n of_o transubstantiation_n and_o the_o like_a they_o thould_v not_o only_o repent_v of_o their_o lie_n and_o put_v away_o their_o idol_n but_o also_o renounce_v christ_n word_n and_o put_v away_o the_o holy_a scripture_n if_o this_o doctrine_n of_o our_o opposite_n be_v true_a 8._o nor_o do_v they_o in_o deed_n repent_v who_o still_o retain_v such_o baptism_n as_o themselves_o think_v to_o be_v a_o idol_n etc._n etc._n for_o true_a repentance_n bind_v we_o to_o cast_v away_o all_o idol_n etc._n etc._n answ._n this_o be_v already_o answer_v neither_o do_v we_o reteyn_v such_o a_o baptism_n as_o we_o think_v to_o be_v a_o idol_n but_o that_o ordinance_n of_o god_n which_o be_v a_o idol_n by_o antichrists_n abuse_n and_o be_v through_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n restore_v unto_o his_o former_a truth_n that_o only_o do_v we_o retain_v repent_v of_o our_o former_a abuse_n thereof_o among_o they_o god_n himself_o as_o i_o have_v show_v be_v make_v a_o idol_n by_o the_o gentile_n their_o repentance_n bind_v they_o to_o cast_v away_o their_o idolatry_n but_o to_o reteyn_fw-mi god_n still_o whereas_o they_o say_v 70._o we_o have_v get_v the_o lord_n baptism_n by_o come_v to_o the_o lord_n in_o true_a faith_n and_o repentance_n who_o 21._o baptise_v we_o with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o with_o fire_n as_o for_o the_o outward_a wash_n which_o we_o have_v it_o need_v not_o be_v repeat_v as_o before_o be_v show_v and_o we_o may_v as_o lawful_o eat_v the_o lord_n supper_n without_o a_o new_a wash_n as_o the_o idolatrous_a isralite_n turn_v to_o the_o lord_n may_v eat_v the_o passover_n without_o a_o new_a cut_n or_o circumcise_n 2._o chron._n 30._o 1._o 5._o 11._o 18._o 25._o ezr._n 6._o 21._o and_o afterward_o say_v 72._o we_o have_v renounce_v that_o romish_a baptism_n as_o a_o impure_a idol_n in_o their_o abuse_n stand_v up_o in_o the_o place_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o precious_a blood_n which_o it_o be_v not_o pretend_v to_o give_v grace_n and_o wash_v away_o sin_n which_o it_o do_v not_o etc._n etc._n they_o do_v but_o shift_v and_o contradict_v themselves_o and_o deceive_v other_o and_o still_o run_v into_o error_n more_o and_o more_o answ._n great_a word_n as_o if_o he_o will_v bear_v down_o all_o before_o he_o but_o let_v we_o hear_v his_o proof_n for_o first_o say_v he_o speak_v of_o the_o lord_n baptism_n they_o speak_v of_o that_o which_o be_v inward_a whereas_o our_o question_n be_v of_o that_o which_o be_v outward_a answ._n a_o good_a beginning_n the_o apostle_n say_v there_o be_v one_o lord_n one_o faith_n one_o baptism_n eph._n 4._o 5._o himself_o also_o a_o little_a before_o 27._o say_v against_o the_o anabaptist_n there_o be_v one_o baptism_n as_o there_o be_v one_o circumcision_n now_o against_o we_o he_o will_v have_v two_o baptism_n one_o outward_a a_o other_o inward_a whereas_o though_o there_o be_v two_o action_n one_o outward_a do_z by_o man_n the_o other_o inward_a do_z by_o god_n spirit_n yet_o both_o be_v but_o one_o 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christening_n and_o mass_n we_o deny_v to_o be_v christ_n baptism_n and_o supper_n he_o still_o beg_v the_o question_n which_o he_o shall_v prove_v and_o let_v he_o take_v away_o antichrist_n and_o his_o adherent_n and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n whereof_o we_o reason_n will_v be_v vanish_v as_o smoke_v and_o come_v to_o nothing_o as_o take_v away_o christ_n and_o his_o adherent_n so_o there_o will_v be_v no_o christian_a church_n nor_o sacrament_n to_o be_v find_v 12._o from_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n which_o be_v but_o a_o temporary_a and_o extraordinary_a sign_n the_o use_n whereof_o be_v cease_v when_o it_o be_v thus_o pervert_v etc._n etc._n they_o reason_n to_o baptism_n which_o be_v a_o ordinary_a sign_n who_o use_n still_o continue_v and_o may_v never_o be_v take_v away_o or_o destroy_v to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n ans._n we_o reason_v not_o from_o the_o one_o to_o the_o other_o but_o by_o the_o abuse_n of_o the_o one_o we_o show_v the_o abuse_n of_o the_o other_o and_o what_o be_v this_o in_o he_o but_o a_o shift_n to_o plead_v the_o temporarinesse_n of_o that_o sign_n for_o if_o they_o have_v burn_v incense_n to_o it_o in_o the_o wilderness_n or_o if_o they_o have_v burn_v incense_n to_o the_o 4._o cherubim_n or_o brazen_a bull_n or_o pillar_n which_o be_v continue_v sign_n they_o have_v make_v idol_n of_o they_o nevertheless_o otherweise_v the_o wheaten_a god_n in_o the_o popish_a supper_n be_v no_o idol_n see_v the_o use_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n continue_v to_o the_o world_n end_n as_o well_o as_o baptism_n and_o hitherto_o of_o the_o shift_n as_o he_o call_v they_o wherein_o how_o he_o have_v shift_v in_o stead_n of_o answer_v by_o the_o word_n of_o truth_n the_o wise_a reader_n may_v see_v like_o these_o be_v his_o 44._o catalogue_n of_o error_n 1._o that_o the_o baptism_n have_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v a_o idol_n etc._n etc._n ans._n 1._o this_o be_v prove_v by_o the_o 2._o commandment_n exod._n 20._o while_n they_o ascribe_v divine_a honour_n to_o the_o creature_n 2._o it_o be_v prove_v also_o by_o his_o own_o assertion_n that_o book_n of_o prayer_n read_v for_o prayer_n be_v idol_n as_o before_o i_o show_v from_o his_o word_n in_o his_o last_o book_n 3._o he_o show_v not_o one_o word_n to_o prove_v it_o a_o error_n in_o i_o but_o say_v of_o which_o more_o hereafter_o thus_o vain_a tantology_n be_v his_o argument_n to_o oppose_v the_o truth_n which_o he_o call_v error_n 2._o that_o whereas_o idol_n be_v of_o two_o sort_n both_o the_o kind_n be_v in_o popish_a baptism_n if_o it_o be_v as_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n that_o from_o a_o holy_a sign_n be_v pervert_v to_o a_o idol_n it_o shall_v present_o be_v destroy_v as_o 2._o king_n 18._o 4._o answ._n i_o deny_v his_o inference_n if_o they_o have_v burn_v incense_n to_o the_o temple_n shall_v it_o have_v be_v destroy_v the_o brazen_a serpent_n be_v name_v but_o for_o a_o instance_n to_o show_v that_o holy_a sign_n may_v be_v make_v idol_n by_o wicked_a man_n this_o doctrine_n he_o be_v not_o able_a to_o convince_v leave_v it_o and_o will_v evade_v by_o the_o destroy_n of_o it_o as_o if_o all_o idol_n must_v be_v destroy_v the_o heathen_n make_v idol_n of_o the_o sun_n moon_n starrs_n beast_n fish_n mountain_n lake_n etc._n etc._n must_v all_o these_o therefore_o be_v destroy_v if_o man_n make_v a_o idol_n of_o their_o king_n as_o do_v the_o babylonian_n dan._n 6._o 7._o must_v the_o king_n present_o be_v destroy_v whoever_o hear_v of_o such_o divinity_n that_o which_o he_o add_v of_o the_o pope_n cross_n exorcism_n etc._n etc._n be_v before_o answer_v for_o he_o say_v our_o question_n be_v of_o the_o baptism_n itself_o as_o if_o those_o be_v not_o a_o part_n of_o popish_a baptism_n he_o will_v have_v wicked_a man_n action_n separate_v from_o all_o their_o sin_n error_n and_o wickedness_n in_o do_v they_o so_o in_o deed_n i_o can_v justify_v all_o idolatry_n in_o the_o world_n for_o take_v away_o the_o error_n and_o sin_v of_o a_o action_n and_o that_o which_o remain_v must_v needs_o be_v good_a 3._o they_o say_v not_o they_o have_v renounce_v the_o abuse_n and_o keep_v the_o baptism_n it_o self_n etc._n etc._n but_o say_v they_o have_v renounce_v that_o romish_a baptism_n as_o a_o impure_a idol_n in_o their_o abuse_n if_o they_o have_v in_o deed_n so_o do_z than_o here_o again_o be_v notable_a error_n and_o anabaptistry_n and_o now_o than_o what_o outward_a baptism_n have_v they_o remain_v to_o themselves_o ans._n neither_o do_v solomon_n say_v the_o abuse_n of_o the_o wicked_n sacrifice_n be_v a_o abomination_n and_o except_v the_o sacrifice_n as_o holy_a but_o he_o say_v express_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o wicked_a be_v a_o abomination_n to_o the_o lord_n prov._n 15._o 8._o he_o be_v answer_v before_o to_o his_o two_o baptism_n outward_a and_o inward_a that_o the_o apostle_n and_o elsewhere_o himself_o make_v but_o one_o baptism_n eph._n 4._o 5._o and_o the_o outward_a part_n thereof_o we_o retain_v as_o now_o sanctify_v to_o we_o of_o god_n as_o the_o outward_a cut_n of_o the_o idolatrous_a israelite_n be_v to_o they_o that_o repent_v 2._o chron._n 30._o ezr._n 6._o 21._o which_o again_o he_o put_v off_o till_o afterward_o 4._o note_v also_o that_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n be_v not_o in_o deed_n a_o idol_n but_o a_o holy_a ordinance_n of_o god_n which_o in_o time_n come_v to_o be_v idolatrous_o abuse_v etc._n etc._n ans._n he_o say_v all_o thing_n but_o prove_v nothing_o it_o be_v in_o deed_n a_o idol_n and_o a_o holy_a ordinance_n idolatrous_o abuse_v also_o these_o thing_n stand_v well_o together_o the_o sun_n be_v in_o deed_n a_o idol_n to_o they_o that_o worship_v it_o and_o yet_o it_o be_v
the_o papist_n that_o worship_v they_o as_o god_n have_v not_o make_v they_o idol_n to_o themselves_o and_o under_o this_o shelter_n of_o falsehood_n he_o shrowd_v himself_o when_o he_o have_v nought_o else_o to_o answer_v repete_v it_o i_o know_v not_o how_o often_o 7._o that_o the_o romish_a baptism_n be_v a_o lie_n in_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o all_o that_o so_o 20._o receive_v it_o where_o the_o prophet_n speak_v of_o idol_n that_o by_o nature_n be_v no_o god_n etc._n etc._n if_o the_o romish_a baptism_n be_v in_o the_o nature_n of_o it_o no_o baptism_n &c_n &c_n then_o shall_v it_o without_o question_n be_v renounce_v as_o a_o very_a idol_n in_o deed_n etc._n etc._n answ._n belike_o then_o he_o will_v have_v we_o take_v it_o for_o no_o lie_n but_o for_o a_o truth_n that_o popish_a baptism_n give_v grace_n and_o wash_v away_o sin_v by_o the_o work_n doen._n neither_o be_v it_o a_o lie_n but_o truth_n that_o bread_n in_o their_o mass_n be_v very_a christ_n real_o &_o proper_o as_o he_o die_v on_o the_o cross_n to_o apply_v esa._n 44._o 20._o against_o these_o thing_n be_v to_o hold_v a_o error_n well_o let_v my_o error_n continue_v with_o i_o for_o i_o trust_v i_o shall_v always_o hold_v that_o they_o be_v lie_v in_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o all_o that_o so_o receive_v they_o and_o as_o the_o prophet_n speak_v of_o they_o that_o by_o nature_n be_v no_o god_n so_o do_v i._o for_o neither_o be_v water_n in_o baptism_n not_o wine_n in_o the_o mass_n christ_n blood_n natural_o neither_o can_v they_o do_v that_o which_o only_a christ_n blood_n effect_v and_o how_o ever_o there_o be_v difference_n between_o the_o idol_n of_o false_a god_n and_o the_o idol_n of_o the_o true_a god_n yet_o the_o scripture_n call_v they_o all_o have_v deut._n 32._o 17._o 2_o chron._n 11._o 15._o 1_o cor._n 10._o 20._o so_o i_o call_v they_o all_o lie_v and_o where_o he_o say_v if_o it_o be_v in_o the_o nature_n of_o it_o no_o baptism_n he_o may_v have_v know_v that_o god_n true_a ordinance_n of_o baptism_n turn_v into_o a_o lie_n make_v it_o a_o lie_a baptism_n and_o yet_o some_o baptism_n it_o be_v though_o not_o the_o true_a whereof_o the_o lie_n be_v put_v away_o and_o the_o truth_n restore_v of_o god_n unto_o we_o there_o need_v no_o other_o renunciation_n as_o before_o i_o have_v prove_v his_o other_o repetition_n and_o question_n of_o the_o same_o thing_n need_v no_o further_o answer_v obj._n how_o will_v he_o show_v that_o baptism_n be_v so_o receive_v as_o stand_v in_o the_o place_n of_o christ_n etc._n etc._n see_v they_o be_v infant_n usual_o that_o receive_v it_o there_o etc._n etc._n answ._n even_o as_o he_o will_v show_v against_o the_o anabaptist_n that_o baptism_n be_v true_o and_o right_o receive_v in_o christian_a church_n where_o they_o be_v infant_n usual_o that_o receive_v it_o for_o as_o the_o covenant_n of_o christ_n be_v to_o parent_n and_o their_o seed_n so_o the_o covenant_n of_o antichrist_n be_v to_o parent_n and_o their_o seed_n even_o the_o covenant_n of_o destruction_n that_o their_o babe_n be_v dash_v against_o the_o rock_n psal._n 137._o 9_o esa._n 13._o 16._o the_o infant_n of_o jew_n be_v jew_n the_o infant_n of_o turk_n be_v turk_n the_o infant_n of_o christian_n be_v christian_n so_o the_o infant_n of_o antichristian_o be_v antichristian_o obj._n consider_v also_o their_o profession_n of_o christ_n and_o baptise_v with_o water_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n and_o that_o this_o alone_a be_v in_o deed_n the_o baptism_n of_o that_o church_n the_o other_o thing_n be_v but_o erroneous_a opinion_n and_o sinful_a addition_n etc._n etc._n answ._n we_o have_v before_o consider_v that_o the_o profession_n of_o that_o church_n be_v all_o one_o with_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o pope_n who_o either_o be_v not_o antichrist_n or_o else_o he_o deny_v both_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n as_o the_o apostle_n say_v 1_o joh._n 3._o 22._o how_o ever_o in_o word_n he_o confess_v both_o 2._o as_o they_o baptise_v with_o water_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n &c_n &c_n so_o they_o consecrate_v their_o supper_n or_o mass_n with_o bread_n and_o wine_n and_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n institution_n mat._n 26._o why_o do_v he_o not_o also_o affirm_v that_o their_o mass_n be_v no_o idol_n no_o lie_n in_o the_o hand_n and_o mouth_n of_o they_o that_o receive_v it_o as_o their_o maker_n and_o eat_v their_o god_n more_o profane_o than_o the_o heathen_n 3._o it_o be_v untrue_a that_o that_o alone_a which_o he_o mention_v be_v in_o deed_n the_o baptism_n of_o that_o church_n in_o deed_n it_o ought_v to_o be_v but_o so_o it_o be_v not_o he_o may_v as_o well_o say_v their_o prayer_n to_o god_n be_v the_o only_a prayer_n of_o that_o church_n for_o by_o divine_a institution_n so_o it_o shall_v be_v but_o it_o be_v know_v they_o pray_v also_o to_o innumerable_a creature_n 4._o i_o grant_v the_o other_o thing_n be_v but_o erroneous_a opinion_n and_o sinful_a addition_n and_o he_o also_o must_v grant_v that_o all_o the_o idolatry_n of_o the_o heathen_n condemn_v in_o rom._n 1._o be_v but_o erroneous_a opinion_n and_o sinful_a addition_n contrary_a to_o the_o covenant_n which_o god_n have_v make_v with_o they_o in_o noes_n day_n gen._n 9_o 9_o 10._o 11._o etc._n etc._n be_v it_o not_o for_o erroneous_a opinion_n and_o sinful_a addition_n all_o man_n now_o shall_v be_v in_o that_o perfect_a estate_n wherein_o at_o first_o we_o be_v create_v eccles._n 7._o 29._o 8._o that_o the_o romish_a baptism_n be_v such_o as_o the_o say_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v verify_v in_o it_o a_o idol_n be_v nothing_o in_o the_o world_n 1_o cor._n 8._o 4._o etc._n etc._n if_o so_o than_o the_o baptism_n of_o that_o church_n have_v no_o relation_n to_o god_n nor_o any_o divine_a institution_n representation_n or_o signification_n in_o it_o etc._n etc._n then_o it_o ought_v of_o necessity_n to_o be_v reject_v etc._n etc._n answ._n if_o th'apostle_n doctrine_n be_v true_a of_o idol_n that_o they_o be_v nothing_o 1_o cor._n 8._o 4._o he_o ought_v not_o to_o kick_v against_o it_o or_o i_o for_o allege_v it_o to_o his_o inference_n i_o answer_v it_o have_v no_o true_a relation_n unto_o god_n covenant_n which_o be_v not_o with_o that_o antichristian_a church_n but_o a_o false_a pretend_a relation_n it_o have_v as_o their_o other_o sacrament_n of_o the_o mass_n or_o supper_n where_o also_o there_o be_v a_o lie_a relation_n to_o christ_n sacrifice_n which_o they_o blasphemous_o renew_v crucify_a daily_o the_o lord_n of_o glory_n to_o his_o conclusion_n he_o have_v oft_o be_v answer_v we_o reject_v the_o idol_n whole_o and_o reteyn_v only_o the_o truth_n so_o far_o as_o god_n by_o his_o word_n have_v sanctify_v it_o unto_o we_o without_o either_o gross_a anabaptistry_n or_o notorious_a blasphemy_n which_o with_o open_a mouth_n he_o charge_v we_o &_o will_v fray_v the_o simple_a with_o 9_o that_o water_n the_o material_a thing_n in_o popish_a baptism_n be_v as_o the_o gold_n and_o silver_n that_o be_v the_o matter_n of_o the_o idol_n speak_v of_o psal._n 115._o 4._o where_o as_o the_o use_n of_o water_n in_o baptism_n be_v appoint_v by_o the_o lord_n and_o still_o to_o be_v retain_v joh._n 1._o 33._o etc._n etc._n but_o the_o use_n of_o gold_n for_o idol_n be_v forbid_v and_o utter_o to_o be_v abandon_v exod._n 20._o 23._o deut._n 7._o 25._o 26._o etc._n etc._n answ._n he_o corrupt_v my_o word_n i_o 72._o say_v a_o idol_n for_o the_o matter_n and_o workmanship_n be_v something_o psal._n 115._o 4._o but_o for_o the_o relation_n unto_o god_n it_o be_v nothing_o so_o popish_a baptism_n as_o touch_v the_o material_a thing_n be_v somewhat_o the_o salt_n water_n oil_n be_v god_n creature_n the_o outward_a action_n be_v the_o work_n of_o the_o hand_n of_o a_o idolatrous_a priest_n and_o this_o work_n remain_v as_o do_v the_o work_n of_o the_o idolater_n circumcise_n in_o jsrael_n etc._n etc._n this_o he_o make_v a_o error_n in_o i_o which_o all_o that_o have_v knowledge_n will_v easy_o see_v to_o be_v truth_n but_o the_o use_n of_o water_n in_o baptism_n say_v he_o be_v appoint_v by_o the_o lord_n true_a unto_o the_o christian_a church_n it_o be_v so_o but_o the_o use_n of_o water_n in_o popish_a idol_n baptism_n or_o of_o bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o popish_a mass_n be_v never_o appoint_v by_o the_o lord_n this_o be_v the_o point_n he_o shall_v have_v prove_v as_o god_n say_v to_o the_o jew_n bring_v no_o more_o vain_a oblation_n incense_n be_v a_o abomination_n unto_o i_o esa._n 1._o 13._o so_o say_v he_o to_o the_o antichristian_o make_v no_o more_o vain_a baptising_n the_o mass_n be_v a_o abomination_n to_o i_o my_o opposite_a
god_n testify_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o their_o mediator_n to_o accept_v their_o prayer_n see_v it_o be_v certain_a that_o no_o man_n come_v to_o the_o father_n but_o by_o he_o joh._n 14._o 6._o thus_o man_n may_v be_v oversee_v sometime_o to_o cite_v author_n on_o their_o side_n which_o either_o say_v nothing_o or_o look_v quite_o a_o other_o way_n touch_v hos._n 13._o 1._o the_o last_o placé_fw-la which_o here_o i_o cite_v be_v hos._n 13._o 1._o where_o ephraim_n offend_v or_o sin_v in_o baal_n and_o die_v whence_o i_o judge_v their_o estate_n to_o be_v dead_a in_o sin_v to_o this_o my_o opposite_a 88_o say_v the_o same_o term_n and_o phrase_n be_v use_v by_o christ_n of_o the_o church_n of_o sardis_n thou_o have_v a_o name_n that_o thou_o live_v and_o be_v dead_a rev._n 3._o 1._o shall_v we_o now_o infer_v hereupon_o that_o therefore_o baptism_n and_o the_o other_o ordinance_n of_o god_n in_o the_o church_n of_o sardis_n be_v but_o in_o show_v retain_v therein_o and_o can_v not_o 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