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A64363	Mr. Pulton consider'd in his sincerity, reasonings, authorities, or, A just answer to what he hath hitherto published in his True account, his True and full account of a conference, &c. by the said Tho. Tenison.	Tenison, Thomas, 1636-1715.	1687 (1687)	Wing T703; ESTC R241	65,495	114

the 2d Commandment Scholar Explain I pray you by some Example How it may be possible for our Lords Body to be in so many Hosties as many as are found upon so very many Altars Master It is written in the Life of St. Anthony of Padua That when he was preaching in one of the Cities of Italy he was by means of the Divine Grace at the same time in Portugal and there did another good Work. Now therefore if God could bring it to pass that St. Anthony should be in his own form in two such distinct places at such distance how should it not agree to his Power to effect it that Christ should be in many Hosties under the shew of the same Hosties This is my Story from Bellarmin who forgat to prove it Now Mr. Pulton if he pleaseth may call it Impertinent But here is Catechism for Catechism and Allen for Rodriguez And here is the Cardinal in his Cloyster setling the Doctrine of Transubstantiation with St. Anthony here and St. Anthony there and St. Anthony at the same time in his own figure in both places And here is the Parish Priest settling the matter about Looseness and Relicks with the Tax of Pope Leo and the Probe of St. Germain And if his Doctorship ought not to have told the latter the former might have been let alone by the Cardinal Seeing there are such Tales and they themselves tell them why may not I when I can so pertinently do it be a Rehearser of them Is not their own Angelinus Gazoeus a Teller of Tales And does he not give his Book the Title of Pia Hilaria or Pious Merriments Have not Capgrave Alford Cressey told Tales in abundance Was not the Liber Festivalis read here in Churches in K. Hen. VII time a book of stories Ex. gr It speaks of Adam and Eve standing for Penance in the Water till they were as Green as Glass And whilst one has written the Golden Legend another has taken the freedom to write the Wooden one ACCUS 4. D. T. has like E. S. from whom he has borrowed quoted St. Cyril most DISINGENUOUSLY leaving out that Text which if cited would have left no place of doubting but that he makes for the Roman Catholick Tenet part of it is as follows That which seems Bread is not Bread although to the Taste it appears to be so but is the Body of Christ He that cavils about such a Text has doubtless great humility of soul and notable dispositions of Faith. Note That not one word was quoted out of St. Cyril in the Conference ANSWER Answer This NOTE has a little of the Aequivocator in it He did not cite in Terms at length therefore 't was not produced at the Conference EXCELLENTLY WELL as his word was to me as often as I had answered and he began to reply the plain truth is this he named St. Cyril's Catechism for the proof of his Corporal Presence I did prevent his repeating the words by saying that I knew them and that they needed no Answer from me being answered already at the end of a certain Printed Conference to which he replied that there was a Printed Answer to that Account of the Conference betwixt Mr. S. c. and that he would shew it me now that Famous Answer I could never yet hear of any more than I could hear of the Famous Paper Mr. Pulton promised to print last Monday Seven-night for the clearing the Certificate of Katherine in the Clouds Well but the Answer was borrow'd from E. S. just as a man borrows when he promises you a Citation out of St. Austin and truly cites his words But when I have occasion to borrow I should as soon borrow of the Reverend E. S. as of any man for he has a mighty Stock of good Learning and he is very Communicative I would not so soon go to Mr. P. notwithstanding he has read all Ecclesiastical History he says it himself and he is an Oracle and has Volumes of Notes relating to it But where is my Disingenuity in leaving out words which were not in the place I promised to repeat And what need was there of adding those words The sense of them was enough shew'd in the words produc'd to wit that the Consecrated Bread was no more mere Bread than the Consecrated Water is meer Water And for the disingenuity of the Reverend D. S. if Mr. P. can shew us it it is a new discovery I suppose that this which follows will satisfy the just Reader that the disingenuity is in the Accuser and not in him who is unworthily reflected on To D. T. c. SIR HAVING the Curiosity to turn over Mr. P's Remarks I found my self remark'd upon in his Postscript with wonderful Civility and Kindness of which I thought fit to give you this Account He charges me with most disingenuous leaving out some words of St. Cyril which if cited would have left no place of doubting that he makes for the Catholick Tenet Whereas the Design of that part of the Discourse was to answer this very Quotation of S. Cyril which was urged by M. W. in the Conference His Words are But to Theodoret he would oppose S. Cyril who in his Fourth Myst. Catech. says expressly Tho thou see it to be bread yet believe it is the Flesh and the Blood of the Lord Iesus doubt it not since he hath said This is my Body Our Business was to answer the Testimony produced by them and I do not remember the least omission as to the strength and force of it and those words Mr. P. produces signifie no more than the other unless he thinks the Sense of Tasting more Emphatical than that of Seeing But I suppose his meaning is that there is omitted that Clause That which seems Bread is not Bread altho to the Taste it appears to be so But this is the very same difficulty in Sense which was answered For if tho we see it to be Bread yet we are to believe it to be the Body of Christ then according to him the meaning is though we see it to be bread it is not bread but the body of Christ. To which it was truly answer'd That in this fourth Catech. he bids them not to consider it as meer bread As if a man should break in pieces the Kings Broad Seal and another to aggravate his fault should tell him That which you have broken is not Wax but the Kings Broad Seal would not any one understand this not to be denying it to be truly Wax but that it was something far beyond that by the Impression of the Royal Seal Or as if a Judg setting forth the Crime of a Clipper should tell him that what he clipt was not silver but the Kings Coin who would need an Infallible Interpreter to tell him that by silver he meant common silver If St. Cyril had deliver'd any such Doctrine in any other

true Judg or Rule do not argue against the Truth of Judges and Rules but against the confident and restless Contentiousness of the Appellants Further if Hereticks from the beginning appeal'd to the Scriptures as their Rule so did single FATHERS and Councils of them too Therefore Mr. P. concludes equally against the written Word of God as an insufficient Rule from Fathers and Councils as from Hereticks And thus with great discretion he has shut out the Witnesses whom he accepts of that he may exclude those to whom he is unwilling to give admission In sum the Church may be one the Society may be one and the Rule one and very sufficient tho ill Men will either pretend to it or reject it Many false Christs have risen up yet one only is true and he did many real Signs and those who saw them would not yet believe in him All this Objection is a transferring the fault from the Men and fixing it upon the faultless Rule Object 2. Ay! but when Hereticks appeal to the Scripture a living Judg will condemn them and secure the Government of the Church as a living Judg do's the Quiet of the State. Answer All Churches rightly constituted have living Iudges and such as are as infallible as the Judg or Judges in the Roman Church That is having a true and plain Rule in Necessaries it is their own wilful failure if they pronounce in necessary Doctrine or Rule of Life a false Sentence But still Mr. P's difficulty remains for Hereticks will no more regard the Judg than the Rule and they will no otherwise have a regard in their Judgment to the living Judg than as they believe he goes by the dead Rule And that which keeps the Peace in Churches and States is such Authority to which their Fears submit when their Reason or Interest do not Therefore where Infallibility is pretended where Men are at the feet of the seven Hills whence the Fountain of it is said to spring it is by thousands no further regarded than as it has Power to enforce it And the Keys of the Inquisition keep such more quiet in that Inclosure than those of St. Peter For the rest some know better and fear by their Separation in necessary things to open a gate to Atheism and utter Disorder and so groan secretly under a Burden which they openly profess to have no weight And others born in that Communion being set by their Teachers against Examination as private Presumption and damnable doubting and a way to endless Uncertainty remain with the multitude in that way of which they have not yet asked the Question whether it be the old and the good one or not Object 3. If a Man uses all Ministerial Helps and cannot be satisfied in himself that he either has sufficient helps or that he has us'd them and be left after this to his own Conscience may not this Man's Conscience be erroneous and actually err in things necessary to Salvation If so then his Religion may be Fancy and not Divine Faith. Answer Here again our Iesuit has taken up a two-edged Weapon For his living Judg is but still a ministerial help not saith St. Paul that we are masters of your Faith but helpers of your Ioy For such a Man before he accepts him for a Judg must be convinc'd that he ought to accept him And what if he be a Man of Pisa or Basel and will bring him to the Canons of the ancient Church And what if he be a Man of weak Capacity and cannot understand the Arguments for such a Judg What if he be a learned Man and understands the Arguments better than the Imposer and what if he has a scrupulous Mind which cannot be satisfied not for want of outward Means but through inward Distraction and Anxiety Why then such a one must be left to his Conscience whatsoever it be in the Roman Communion as well as the Reform'd If that Church can instruct him so can ours If it has cause to excommunicate him we have that Spiritual Power also but would not exercise it where there is demonstration that Men are sincere in their Perswasion and have taken due Pains and are in their dissentings modest and peaceable If they are violent by blind Zeal or by Faction cover'd under the venerable Name of Conscience then when the Common-Wealth is Christian the Civil Powers in their way preserve the Peace of the Church In fine when we speak of very scrupulous and unperswadable Men what effect can Infallibility have upon them For if they cannot be convinc'd that they have taken sufficient pains and that the Ministry under which they are is sufficient how will they be convinc'd merely by hearing it said to them they must not dispute they must submit to an Infallible living Judg For that is the great Thing which so many Thousands scruple even among themselves That was an Expedient among the Pythagoreans who were to be in Quietude and Silence and submit in all things to THE MASTER SAID IT Yet they divided into many Sects as is evident in the History of the Italic Philosophy To say there is a certain Guide and on him you must depend wholly for your way is to spend Breath and Confidence in vain till the Wanderer knows who this Guide is and whether he may absolutely depend upon him If he still questions him he must take his own way and if he takes him 't is still in effect his own way for he takes him upon this last Act of his own Judgment that he is an Infallible Guide But what if his Conscience prove Erroneous and his Faith be Fancy I Answer First as above he has as good security in this Church as in any other for he has as sufficient means and better than in some Secondly A Man of good Capacity using these Means in Christian manner if nothing distracts his Judgment and disables his Capacity shall not be brought to such Scruples as shall end in Fancy instead of Faith. Thirdly If he has natural Incapacity God will not judg him for a Talent he had not Such a Man even under the Gospel may be as much without that Law as the Heathens were without the Law of the Jews For an Ideot or a Man under a distraction is without that as a Rule which he is not capable of using or apprehending Fourthly If a Man has Capacity without Probity of Mind and pretends Scruples he ought not to abuse the Good Word Conscience He should say it is his Lust or his Appetite or his Fear or his Profit or his Vanity And to such a one all Church-Governnours who give best Revenues and most Ease to Flesh and Blood are sufficiently infallible They give him security of Pleasure and Profit and that is as much Assurance as he asks Fifthly If a Man has had a good Capacity and an honest Mind but is shatter'd into variety of doubtful Thoughts by bodily Distemper by suddain wordly Losses by