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be_v the_o body_n which_o we_o worship_n saint_n austin_n will_v tell_v we_o present_o no_o for_o he_o bring_v in_o christ_n speak_v to_o his_o disciple_n thus_o you_o eat_v not_o the_o body_n which_o you_o see_v i_o have_v commend_v to_o you_o a_o sacrament_n which_o be_v spiritual_o understand_v shall_v quicken_v you_o that_o which_o be_v bring_v out_o of_o the_o 120_o epistle_n need_v no_o further_a answer_n but_o only_o to_o note_v that_o our_o adversary_n have_v add_v it_o to_o worship_n determine_v the_o object_n which_o saint_n austin_n do_v not_o and_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n say_v the_o lord_n du_fw-mi plessis_n may_v be_v add_v to_o body_n transubstantiate_v or_o what_o you_o please_v sect._n 24_o now_o that_o the_o primitive_a church_n do_v not_o terminate_v such_o adoration_n upon_o the_o element_n be_v make_v out_o evident_o by_o the_o learned_a d._n taylor_n in_o these_o word_n end_n lib._n de_fw-fr trans_fw-la towards_o the_o end_n if_o the_o primitive_a church_n have_v ever_o teach_v that_o divine_a worship_n be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o the_o sacrament_n it_o have_v be_v certain_a that_o the_o heathen_a will_v have_v retort_v most_o of_o the_o argument_n upon_o their_o head_n by_o which_o the_o christian_n reprove_v their_o worship_v of_o image_n the_o christian_n upbraid_v they_o with_o worship_v the_o work_n of_o their_o hand_n to_o which_o themselves_o give_v what_o figure_n they_o please_v and_o then_o by_o certain_a form_n consecrate_v they_o and_o make_v by_o invocation_n as_o they_o suppose_v a_o divinity_n to_o dwell_v there_o they_o object_v to_o they_o that_o they_o worship_v that_o which_o can_v neither_o see_v nor_o hear_v nor_o smell_v nor_o taste_v nor_o move_v nor_o understand_v that_o which_o can_v grow_v old_a and_o perish_v that_o can_v be_v break_v and_o burn_v that_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o injury_n of_o rat_n and_o mouse_n of_o worm_n and_o creep_a thing_n that_o can_v be_v take_v by_o enemy_n and_o carry_v away_o that_o 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these_o argument_n enforce_v upon_o they_o by_o the_o champion_n of_o the_o christian_a cause_n do_v not_o saint_n paul_n tell_v we_o that_o even_o in_o his_o time_n all_o that_o be_v in_o asia_n fall_v away_o from_o the_o truth_n 2_o tim._n 1.15_o and_o can_v it_o be_v that_o none_o of_o these_o shall_v be_v able_a to_o retort_v this_o objection_n be_v it_o not_o strange_a that_o none_o of_o the_o convert_v of_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v scandalize_v at_o this_o when_o as_o avicenna_n present_o cry_v out_o quandoquidem_fw-la christiani_n adorant_a quod_fw-la comedunt_fw-la sit_fw-la anima_fw-la mea_fw-la cum_fw-la philosophis_fw-la chap._n xii_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n sect._n 1_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o communicate_v in_o one_o kind_n not_o prove_v from_o the_o christian_n practice_n in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n sect._n 2._o nor_o from_o their_o communicate_v of_o infant_n sect._n 3_o nor_o from_o their_o communicate_v of_o the_o sick_a and_o penitent_n at_o the_o point_n of_o death_n sect._n 4._o nor_o from_o communion_n at_o sea_n sect._n 5._o nor_o last_o from_o communion_n send_v to_o other_o province_n sect._n 6._o christ_n institution_n respect_v laic_n as_o well_o as_o priest_n sect._n 7_o 8._o a_o evasion_n obviate_v sect._n 9_o further_a evidence_n of_o the_o laic_n interest_n in_o the_o cup_n and_o a_o far_a evasion_n obviate_v sect._n 10._o christ_n institution_n a_o command_n sect._n 11._o the_o verdict_n of_o antiquity_n for_o we_o sect._n 12._o no_o evidence_n of_o concomitance_n sect._n 13_o 14._o three_o argument_n against_o it_o sect._n 16_o 17_o 18._o the_o vain_a pretence_n allege_v for_o this_o half_a communion_n sect._n 19_o upon_o what_o condition_n a_o dispensation_n may_v be_v grant_v sect._n 20._o the_o state_n of_o this_o question_n be_v not_o sect._n 1_o as_o our_o author_n will_v persuade_v we_o ibid._n mr._n c._n p._n 138._o ibid._n whether_o the_o receive_n in_o both_o kind_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o communion_n albeit_o that_o be_v very_o true_a but_o whether_o the_o administer_a the_o sacrament_n in_o both_o kind_n to_o the_o people_n or_o priest_n non-conficients_a capable_a of_o it_o in_o both_o kind_n be_v not_o necessary_a necessitate_v praecepti_fw-la or_o from_o the_o injunction_n of_o our_o bless_a saviour_n or_o in_o a_o word_n whether_o the_o withhold_a of_o the_o cup_n from_o such_o be_v not_o a_o violation_n of_o the_o will_n of_o christ_n if_o so_o then_o farewell_n trent_n council_n now_o this_o we_o assert_v to_o be_v so_o our_o author_n on_o the_o contrary_n will_v make_v it_o good_a that_o the_o father_n think_v the_o contrary_a and_o appeal_v to_o doctor_n pierce_v conscience_n ibid._n ibid._n whether_o if_o he_o shall_v side_n with_o we_o in_o it_o he_o shall_v not_o be_v overwhelm_v with_o the_o deposition_n of_o the_o most_o ancient_a father_n against_o he_o and_o then_o he_o produce_v his_o old_a argument_n in_o defence_n of_o this_o 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will_v endanger_v our_o fall_n into_o the_o ditch_n mat._n 15.24_o seducer_n v._o 15._o of_o this_o chapter_n which_o be_v evidence_n sufficient_a that_o he_o never_o intend_v they_o shall_v be_v follow_v absolute_o but_o only_o when_o they_o follow_v the_o law_n of_o moses_n 2._o this_o infallibility_n can_v be_v prove_v from_o reason_n which_o to_o evince_v i_o will_v careful_o ponder_v what_o mr._n c._n have_v produce_v from_o this_o topic_a 1._o then_o to_o help_v he_o out_o a_o little_a i_o will_v premise_v that_o nature_n teach_v we_o that_o what_o be_v necessary_a to_o the_o christian_a faith_n for_o its_o preservation_n and_o to_o hinder_v the_o undermine_a of_o it_o aught_o to_o be_v practise_v 239._o mr._n c._n p._n 239._o but_o it_o be_v absolute_o necessary_a say_v he_o for_o the_o church_n oft_o time_n to_o make_v her_o decision_n of_o point_n in_o controversy_n for_o otherwise_o the_o devil_n will_v have_v power_n to_o undermine_v a_o great_a part_n of_o our_o faith_n 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a_o general_a council_n which_o albeit_o it_o be_v not_o of_o itself_o infallible_a and_o therefore_o can_v from_o its_o own_o authority_n oblige_v to_o give_v credit_n to_o its_o determination_n yet_o do_v it_o avail_v to_o that_o end_n to_o which_o it_o be_v institute_v i._n e._n for_o the_o avoid_v the_o confusion_n and_o rent_v of_o the_o church_n see_v such_o a_o council_n can_v excommunicate_v and_o subject_a to_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n those_o who_o open_o contradict_v she_o 2._o the_o authority_n of_o general_a council_n have_v a_o great_a weight_n and_o moment_n in_o the_o beget_n a_o persuasion_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o doctrine_n define_v by_o it_o for_o such_o decree_n can_v rash_o be_v reject_v as_o be_v make_v by_o those_o observatione_fw-la timere_fw-la &_o non_fw-la adhibitâ_fw-la accuratâ_fw-la &_o gravi_fw-la observatione_fw-la who_o 1._o have_v great_a assistance_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n 2._o great_a mean_n of_o find_v out_o the_o truth_n viz._n 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