wits nor have they any dependance upon the will or Authority of the Sons of men one or other of them either in respect of the matter or manner of their worship the whole whereof was purely of Divine institution and Divine appointment Exod. 25.9 40. Numb 8.5 Heb. 8.5 1 Chron. 28 11. Exod. 8.27 Levit. 10.1 Exod. 39.1 5 7 21 26 31 43 and 40.23 25 27 29. Levit. 8.9 13 17 21 29. Numb 8.3 Exod. 35.10 29. and 36.1 5. Isaiah 29.13 Answer The Levites were not invested into the office of the Priesthood by solemn ordination imposition of hands of the children of Israel but Aaron and his Sons and therefore as it was an usurpation in Uzziah to burn incense to the Lord sith it appertained to the Priests the sons of Aaron that were consecrated to burn incense 2 Chron. 26.18 So it was the sin of Korah that not content with that service he was to do he would usurp the office of the Priests to come nigh the Altar and to burn incense or as it is Numb 16.10 to seek the Priesthood which was in degree above the Levites who were to minister unto the Priests but not to come nigh the Altar as Ainsworth proves in his Annot. on Numb 16.10 out of Numb 18.2 3. 1 Chron. 6.48 49. 1 Chron. 23.13 It is granted that neither the Levites nor the Priests in their office or service were left to their own wills nor had they any dependance upon the will or authority of the sons of men one or other of them either in respect of the matter or manner of their worship which was of Divine institution and Divine appointment Every circumstance of time place order habit and what ever else was particularly determined was to be strictly observed under pain of death if presumptuously done otherwise as in the case of Nadab and Abihu Hophai and Phinehas or culpable negligence as in the case of Uzzah and if it were by ignorance yet an offering was to be made for an atonement and thus much it is granted the Texts alledged do prove But neither these texts nor any other do prove that no circumstances about place time order undetermined by God were left to the liberty of the people or Prince or Sanhedrin or Priests in and about the worship of God among the Jewes who yet had their service more fully particularized in all things pertaining to it than we have The Priests were invested into the office of Priesthood by Moses according to the rites distinctly set down Exod. 40.12 13 14 15 16. Levit. 8. throughout The text Isai. 29.13 alledged in the first chapter out of Mark 7.7 will there fitly be considered that we may discusse whether the whole of their worship was purely of Divine institution and appointment in respect of the matter and manner of it Sect. 9. The defection of the Jews to Idolatrous inventions of men is of a more hainous degree than use of humane ceremonies with us Fourthly saith he that this Church gathered by the Lord and wonderfully separated from the rest of the world though they had him nearer to them than any people had his Law made known amongst them did notwithstanding quickly depart from his pure institutions mingling therewith the inventions of men and customes of the Nations after which they went a whoring is frequently remarked in the Scripture of this the Lord sorely complains Deut. 32.18 Jer. 2.32 and 13.25 and 23.27 Hos. 4.6 and 8.14 and 13.6 2 Chron. 13.16 Isa. 1.4 Jer 1.16 and 2.17 19. and 9.13 and 15.6 Deut. 29.5 1 Kings 11.33 and 18.18 and 19.10 2 Kings 22.17 Ezra 9.10 for this he severely threatens and punisheth them Deut. 29.25 Judg. 10.10 1 Sam. 12.10 2 Chron. 12.5 and 24.20 and 34.25 Jer. 16.11 and 19.4 the very truth is the contests of God with that people from first to last are to be bottom'd upon this foot of account Answer It is true that Church of Israel was gathered by the Lord and wonderfully separated from the rest of the world by great signs miracles providences and judgments which he shewed against their enemies and towards them especially by the hand of Moses and that he did not till Christ came so gather and wonderfully separate any Church from the rest of the World as he did them But after the ascension of Christ by the Preaching of the Gospel and other wayes he hath gathered out of all Nations his Church and wonderfully separated it from the rest of the world It is true also that the Israelites quickly departed from Gods pure institutions mingling therewith the inventions of men and customs of the Nations But those inventions of men and customs of the Nations which the Texts alledged mention were such as were expressely forbidden drew them to serve other other Gods and to forsake the Lord not such as are usually by seperatives called inventions of men to wit humane ceremonies confessed out of the case of worship in themselves to be things indifferent such as out of pretended prudence at least or publique authority are imposed for discipline order or decency without giving any Divine worship to a Creature Let all the Texts alledged be viewed and there is none of them that mentions the mingling such inventions of men no not those which our Saviour reprehends in the Pharisees Mark 7.3 4 8. which are farr worse as the departing from Gods pure institutions nor doth God contest with the people of the Jewes in those places alledged for other inventions of men and customes of the Nations than such as were Idolatrous and therefore the threatnings and punishments in those places are grossely abused when they are applied to the imposing or use of such ceremonies or discipline as are whether rightly or wrongly retained in the Church of England Sect. 10. Such testimony as the Prophets gave against the Jewish defection is not now to be given against the Conformists Fifthly saith he that notwithstanding their dreadful Apostacy from God they were usually confident that they were the only People had not forsaken the Lord nor done any evil and could not bear the Prophecies and rebukes of the Prophets and Servants of the Lord against their abominations whom they persecuted and put to death as at last they did the Prince of Life and Glory for no other cause but for telling them the truth and bearing testimony against their Innovations and Apostacy from God the usual practice of persons degenerated from the way and Spirit of the Lord Mal. 1.6 Jer. 7.4 Luke 3.8 John 8.39 Mat. 5.12 Act. 7.52 Answer All this is granted and if this Author can prove any such innovations and Apostacy from God as the Prophets Christ and his Apostles and other Servants of God rebuked in the Jewes in the People or Teachers who adhere to the doctrin worship or discipline of the Church of England this Author with others of his minde do well to bear their testimony against them as the Prophets did and
which when they have proved that ever the Lord Jesus did intrust an Assembly of the greatest Murderers Adulterers and Idolaters in the world with any power for the sending forth Officers to act in the holy things of God to and for the Church his Spouse will be admitted but that they shall never be able to do so hugely importunate are some of them herein that they are not ashamed to ask us VVhy Ordination may not be received from the Church so called of Rome as well as the Scripture To which we shall only say That when it is proved that we received the Scripture from that Apostate Church by vertue of any Authority thereof as such somewhat of moment may be admitted in that enquiry but this will never be done T is true the Bible was kept among the people in those parts where the Pope prevaileth yet followeth it not from hence that we received it from their Authority as Ordination is received If we did why did we not keep it as delivered from them to us in the Vulgar Latine So that of these things there is not the same reason It will not then be denied but the present Ministers of England act in the holy things of God by vertue of an Office power received by succession from the Church of Rome and so from Idolaters that Church being eminently so as hath been proved Answ. This Objection though it be but a slight thing and of no real force to nullifie or invalidate the Calling of the present Ministers yet because the well-affected Protestants are zealous against Popery as having learned the Pope to be Antichrist and that terrible threanings are in the Revelation against any communion with any thing that is suggested to them by those to whom they adhere to come from Rome or the Pope as being Antichristian it is needful that this thing should be cleared for rectifying the mistakes of people that their unadvised zeal against some things as Popish which are not may not occasion unnecessary Schism and such other evils into which persons perhaps otherwise of honest hearts cast themselves to their ruine It is known to those that study Controversies between Protestants and Papists that this hath been one grand Objection of the Papists against the Reformed Churches that their Ministers are not rightly Ordained and therefore they have no succession which by Bellarmine in his Book de Notis Ecclesiae c. 8. is made a Note of the Church and therefore they are not a true Church but schismatical The Answers given to this Objection are 1. For the truth of the Reformed Churches the succession in them of true Doctrine is sufficient to demonstrate them true Churches as I have asserted in my Romanism discussed against the Manuel of H. T. Art 2. 2. That Ministers may be sent of God who teach the Doctrine of God though they have not Ordination according to Church-Canons as was the case at the first beginning of the Reformation in which there was something extraordinary by reason of the long tyranny of Popes and the great corruptions in the Latine Churches 3. That their Ministers were at first ordained by the Popish Bishops and though they did after renounce the offering Sacrifice for quick and dead yet even by the Papists own Canons and resolutions of their Casuists their power to administer the Word and Sacraments according to the Word of God continued still 4. That those who had been thus ordained had power to ordain others for which the French and other Protestants of the Presbyterial Government allege That Presbyters may Ordain even by the confession of the Romanists and that Bishops though they be hereticks in their account yet they lose not the power of Ordaining no not when degraded of which more may be seen in Rivet sum Controv. tract 2. q. 1. Alsted suppl ad Chamier panstrat de memb Eccl. milit c. 8. Ames Bellar. Enerv. tom 2. l. 3. de clericis c. 2 sect 10. and many more who have still pleaded That notwithstanding the impurity of the Church of Rome yet the Calling which Luther Zuinglius and others had from Popish Bishops was sufficient without any other Ordination for an ordinary calling to the Office of a Minister and that those who have succeeded them have been true Pastours in their Churches The English Protestants who have had Bishops above Presbyters have advantage above other Protestants to plead for the regularity of the Ordination of their Ministers because they have been ordained by Bishops and those Bishops consecrated by other Bishops according to the â—anons of the Ancients in a succession continued from Bishops acknowledged by the Papists themselves To evacuate this plea saith Dr. Prideaux Orat. 8. de Vocatione Ministrorum The Papists would fain find a defect in the succession of the English Bâ—shâ—ps from the preceding Bâ—shops and in the solemnity of their consecration And being beaten off from the denial of Cranmers consecration by the producing of the Popes acknowledging of him Arch-bishop and the register of his consecration as also of other Bishops in King Edwards dayes After Christophorus à sacrâ—bâ—sco or Father Halywood of Dublin in Ireland Anthony Champney and James Wadsworth say That Arch bishop Parker Bishop Jewel and those others which were made Bishops in the beginning of Q. Elizabeth though theâ—e were an attempt of their consecration at a Tavern at the Nags-head in Cheapside yet could not they procure an old Catholick Bishop to joyn with them and therefoâ—e their consecration was disappointed To shew the falshood of this fable and to make evident the compleat solemnity of Paâ—kers and others consecration and the truth of the Ordination of the English Ministers even by the Canons of the Papists Bishop Bâ—del in his Answer to Wadsworth ch 11. and Mr. Francis Mason in his Vindication of the English Ministry have fully proved the solemnity of the consecration out of the Aâ—ch-bishops Begister to have been â—ight and the succession to have been legitimate even according to the Canon Law and the Ministers Ordination to have been good though not ordained sacrificing Priests for quick and dead against the exceptions of Bellarmine 〈◊〉 and such other of the Papists ' as have denied Protestant Ministers true Pastours and their Churches true Churches It is not unlikely that some of the Prelaâ—ical party have vented in writings and conference such expressions as carry a shew of their disclaiming the Churches which have not Bishops and extolling the Popish Churches Government and avouching their Ordination from Rome which hath caused a great aveâ—seness in many zealous persons from Bishops and the conforming Ministers and is taken hold of by this Author and other promoters of Separation as an engine sutable to that end But as those learned men Bedel Mason Prideaux and others have pleaded the succession of Bishops from the Popish Bishops and the Ordination of Ministers by them there is no cause given of that out-cry that is made of the Bishops
on If there be no such thing as a National Church of the institution of Christ as most certain it is there is not then 2. Whether National Ministers are the Ministers of Christ or whether there can be a true Ministry in a false Church as a National Church must be if not of Divine Institution upon what pretence soever it be so denominated Sect. 16. National Ministers may be Ministers of Christ and National Churches true Churches To this Querie I answer 1 That if by National Ministers be meant Ministers for the Nation or such as have inspection over the Nation whether for the maintenance or propagating of true Doctrine or Worship or holiness of life they may be Ministers of Christ though no such thing as a National Church were of the institution of Christ. As for instance I conceive Dr. James Usher when he was alive was a Minister of Christ when he was Primate of Ireland The assertion I prove thus If the Apostles were Ministers of Christ and National Ministers though a National Church were not instituted of Christ than National Ministers may be Ministers of Christ though a National Church be not instituted of Christ But the Apostles were such as for instance Peter had the Apostleship of the Circumcision Paul of the Gentiles Gal. 2.7 8. Rom. 11.13 1 Tim. 2.7 Therefore National Ministers may be Ministers of Christ. 2. Titus was a National Minister of the Cretians For this cause saith St. Paul Tit. 1.5 left I thee in Crete that thou shouldst set in order the things that are wanting and ordain Elders in every City as I had appointed thee and yet a Minister of Christ St. Pauls partner and fellow-helper concerning the Corinthians 2 Cor. 8.23 Ergo 3. They that may be Ministers of Christ though they be Ministers for the Body of Christ and all the Members thereof may be Ministers of Christ though National because the denial of a National Ministry is upon this supposition that a Minister of Christ is only for one particular Congregation but the Pastors and Teachers as well as Apostles Evangelists Prophets are given for the edifying of the Body of Christ till we all come in the unity of the faith unto a perfect man Eph. 4.11 12 13. Therefore for all or any and consequently for a Nation and not only for a particular Congregation 4. If any of the Saints as well as one particular Congregation have an interest in all the Ministers of Christ so as that they are truly theirs then Ministers of Christ may be National yea ought to be yea and Oecumenical if they could be serviceable to them in the things of Christ. But 1 Cor. 3.22 23. Paul and Cephas and Apollos were all the Corinthians and all others who were Christs therefore the same may be Ministers of Christ and National Ministers I know not whether this might be an argument ad hominem but this I take to be justifiable that a man may be a Commissioner for approbation of publick Preachers throughout a Nation and so a National Minister or an Itinerant Preacher to the Nation and yet be a Minister of Christ. 2. A National Church denominated so either from the agreement of all the Believers in that Nation in the same profession or from their subjection to some Common Rulers Ecclesiastical or Civil or Convening by Deputies in some National Synod though not of Divine Institution may be a true and not a false Church which I prove thus They may be a true Church who have all things essential to a Church and nothing destructive of its being such But Believers of a Nation or a National Church so denominated any of those wayes may have all things essential to a Church and nothing destructive of its being such Ergo. The Major is taken from the proper notion of the term True Church or its definition For the definition of a Church of Christ or a true Church is and can be no other than a Company or Number of persons believing in Christ or professing the Faith of the Gospel and obedience to God by Christ according unto it not destroying their own profession by any errours concerning the foundation or unholiness of conversation even according to the expression of the Congregational men in their Declaration Octob. 12.1658 ch 26. The Minor is also manifest by Reason and Experience A National Church so denominated may have the Truth of Doctrine of Faith the Truth of Worship the Truth of Holy conversation besides which there is nothing essential to a true Church For the defect of outward order were the order pretended indeed of Christs Institution yet could not nullifie the Church or destroy the Truth of it but only the regularity The Corinthians were a true Church 1 Cor. 1.2 even then when there were disorders in their Meeting 1 Cor. 14.26 in their Discipline 1 Cor. 5.1 2. in their Communion 1 Cor. 11.21 in their Faith 1 Cor. 15.12 in their Conversation 2 Cor. 1.1 and 12 2â— As for the outward form of their Combination by a Church Covenant or their number or their habitation or their descent these and such like things though for convenience they be requisite yet not essential to the Church or its Truth Yea the having of Baptism Organizing by Officers though more necessary and of Divine Institution yet are not essential to a Church or its Truth but that the Church without them may be a true Church though not so regular and well ordered as it should be Nor doth the having of National Rulers Ecclesiastical either single persons or in a Synod or Convocation make a false Church Those of the Congregational way have had Synods and submitted to Courts even in Ecclesiastical things of larger extent than a Congregation of one Town and Churches of a greater number and at greater distance of habitation than could meet in one place every Lords Day for all Ordinances and deny not a Catholick visible Church and therefore should not by reason of the number distance want of Officers of Divine Institution or because modelled by humane prudence call a National Church a false Church The proofs used by those that held that many particular Congregations may be under one Presbyterial Government Printed in the Year 1645. from the number of the Church at Jerusalem yet one Church Acts 8.1 under one Government besides what is found in the Scripture about the Churches of Corinth Ephesus are sufficient to evince that many Congregations may be one Church and that the unity and truth of Churches is to be taken from agreement and verity of Faith and that a National Church so denominated in respect of the agreement in profession or subjection to Government or convention by Deputies or Messengers in one Synod may be one National Church and a true Church of Christ. But it is objected That the first Church is of Christs Institution and that was of so many as might meet in one Congregation even the Church at Jerusalem that
heretical or false doctrin And sith the Church of Corinth was manifestly Schismatical 1 Cor. 1.11 12. Yet Apollos a true Minister to them or who else were their Pastors And sith the Church of Sardis is charged as having a name that it lived but was dead yet the Angel of it one of the seven Stars in Christs right hand then may there be a true Ministry in such false Churches Revel 3.1 that is schismatical or hypocritical not consisting of real Saints And if it be that what is charged on Laodicea Rev. 3.15 16 17. were by reason of defect in Church constitution and disciplin as Mr. Brightman conceived then also a false Church in respect of such irregularity may have a true Ministry But because this is only an argument ad homines to such as concurre with Mr. Brightman in his conceit I will prove that in a National Church or a Church irregular in its constitution or discipline miscalled false may be a true Ministry of Christ. 1. If the truth of the Ministry depend upon the truth of the Church or it's regularity then where is no true regular Church there is no true Ministry But that is false sith there may be a true Ministry where there is no Church at all and therefore no true Church Ergo the truth of the Ministry depends not on the truth of the Church but a true Ministry may be in a false Church 2. If there be a true Ministry though to or in a National visible Church or Catholique then that extent which is conceived to be inconsistent with a true Gospel Church makes not the Ministry false but Peters and Pauls Ministry to the Jews or Gentiles Churches were true Ministries though the Churches were National or Catholique even set by God in the Church 1 Cor. 12.18 Ergo. 3. If Ministry to Churches Hypocritical Schismatical and in some sort Heretical may be true Ministry much more to a Church National irregular in constitution and discipline those being greater degrees of falsehood than this But the antecedent is before proved from the Epistles to the Corinthians to the Churches of Pergamos Thyatira and Sardis Ergo the consequent is true 4. If the regular constitution disciplin of the Church the election of the Church or their sending be extrinsecal or accidental not necessary or essential to the truth of the Ministry then may there be a true Ministry in such a Church as this Author calls false But the antecedent is true sith the Apostles were true Ministers afore the regular constitution and discipline of Churches without their Election or mission therefore the consequent is also true 5. If the denomination of true Ministers be from the truth of their Doctrin and no other form denominating them and there may be a Ministration of true Doctrin in such a supposed false Church then there may be a true Ministry in such a false Church for where the form denominating is there the Subject is rightly denominated from it But the antecedent is true both from all the Texts before alledged which place the truth of Ministry in the Doctrin taught and no other thing and in that the Colossians learned the grace of God in truth from Epaphras he is termed St. Pauls Fellow-Servant and for them a faithfull Minister of Christ Col. 1.6 7. and reason and experience confirms the possibility of preaching true Doctrin in a National mis-called false Church therefore the consequent is also true 6. If false Prophets false Apostles false Brethren be only denominated from their false Doctrin then they are not false Ministers but true who teach the truth of the Gospel notwithstanding their defects or the Churches in which they are But the antecedent is true as may be evinced from 2 Pet. 2.1 2 Cor. 11.13 Gal. 2.4 5. 1 John 2 1â— 21 22 26. 2. John 7. and many more places which denominate them false Prophets false Teachers false Apostles false Brethren Antichrists not Ministers of Christ from their erroneous Doctrin therefore from it and not from defects of Churches or other things are they false Ministers and if they preach true Doctrin true Ministers though in an irregular Church There being nothing offered against this to be answered I pass on to this Authors next Quaerie Sect. 20. Gods love to us is not less in not determining the whole of his Worship to us as to the Jews 3. Saith he Whether God doth not bear as much love to and exercise as much faithfulness over his New Testament Churches as over the National Church of the Jews Answ. No doubt of it yet doth not God shew his love nor exercise his faithfulness over his New Testament Churches in the same way or course of Providence as he did and perhaps will do over the National Church of the Jews He doth not gather the New Testament Churches by a mighty hand and a stretched-out arm as he did when he brought Israel out of Egypt by the hand of Moses but by the calling of his Word and operation of his Spirit Nor doth he make them Conquerours by Arms but they overcome the old Serpent by the blood of the Lamb and by the Word of their Testimony and they love not their lives unto the death Rev. 12.11 Nor doth God now settle his Church in one fruitful Land under one earthly King as he did the Jews under David and Solomon but in all Countries where they are called protects and feeds them by the Great Shepherd of the Sheep the Lord Jesus Christ and his Spirit in that estate and station wherein they are called Nor is it improbable that in the future calling of the Jews God will shew more remarkable Providences for their re-ingraffing into their own Olive than ever he hath yet shewed towards the Churches of the Gentiles It is added If so then 4. Whether he hath not as of old he did with reference unto the then Church determined the whole of the Worship appertaining unto them to whose Institutions without any Humane additions it is the duty of souls solely to conform Answ. The whole of the Worship appertaining to the New Testament Churches is either inward or outward To the New Testament Churches God hath determined the whole of his inward Worship as of old he did with reference unto the then Chuâ—ch or rather he hath more fully determined the Worship of himself by exercise of Faith and hope in Prayer and Thanksgiving having now more 〈◊〉 opened the mystery of his Will in the way of access to him and accepting of our service than he did to the Jews before Christs coming But for the outward Worship though he have set down sufficiently what we are to place his Worship in and wherein he hath determined by Precept or Example that hath the force of a Precept what is to be done by us that alone we are to account his Worship and to conform solely to it as his Institution without any Humane Additions or Alterations yet in respect of
Christ in the Scripture Sect. 7. The Office of Lord Bishops not from the Papacy Sect. 8. The Ordination of Bishops is also of Presbyters Chap. 4. Arg. 4. Sect. 1. They that deny not Christs Offices doctrinally may be heard Sect. 2. Every not hearkening to Christs Order is not a denial of his Office Sect. 3. It is not proved that Christs Sovereign Authority is rejected by the present Ministers Sect. 4. Ministers oppose not the will of Christ by not joyning in the separation pleaded for Sect. 5. Election and Excommunication by the Church are not Christs Institution Sect. 6. No contempt of the Authority of Christ is in the Church of England by setting up Officers and Offices Sect. 7. Election of Ministers by the common Suffrage of the Church is not proved to be Christs appointment Sects 8. Prophecying is not opposed by the Ministers Sect. 9. Ministers service may be Divine and Spiritual in the use of the Liturgy Sect. 10. Things objected against the Ministers are not such as justifie separation Chap. 5. Sect. 1. All owning of orders different from or contrary to Christs proves not a denial of his Offices Sect. 2. Ministers submitting to Canons is unjustly censured Sect. 3. Making Canons in things undetermined and subjection to them agrees with Scripture Sect. 4. It s no derogation from Scripture or Christ that such Canons are made and obeyed Sect. 5. All particularities of Decency and Order in things sacred are not determined in Scripture Sect. 6. It s not proved that the Ministers of England own constitutions contrary to the Revelation of Christ. Sect. 7. A prescript Form of words in Prayer devised by man is not contrary to Rom. 8.26 1 Cor. 14.15 Sect. 8. The admission of vitious persons to Communion justifies not separation Sect. 9. Receiving of the Lords Supper kneeling is not directly opposite to Christs practice or precept of abstaining from appearance of evil 1 Thess. 5.22 Sect. 10. Forbidding to Marry or eat Flesh at certain times are not Characters of Apostates as 1 Tim. 4.3 is meant Sect. 11. No such headship is owned by the present Ministers as is a denial of Christs Offices Sect. 12. Conformity to Laws opposite to Christs proves not owning another King co-ordinate to him Sect. 13. Headship of the Church under Christ not monstrous Sect. 14. The Kings Supremacy is such as was allowed the Kings of Israel Chap. 6. Arg. 5. Sect 1. False Doctrine only makes a false Prophet not to be heard Sect. 2. The Ministers not false Prophets because not sent as Jer. 23.21 Rom. 10.15 is meant Sect. 3. The Ministers not proved to commit Adultery and walk in lyes as Jer. 23.14 is meant Sect. 4. The Ministers are not proved to strengthen the hands of evil doers as Jer. 23.14 is meant Sect. 5. The Ministers are not proved such daubers as those Ezek. 22.28 Sect. 6. Ministers changing of places sadning some mens hearts not characters of a false Prophet Sect. 7. Pressing rigid Conformity no proof of the Ministers being false Prophets Sect. 8. The charge Ezek. 22.26 reacheth not the Ministers of England Sect. 9. The Ministers are not the false Shepheards meant Ezek. 34.4 Sect. 10. The Ministers of England are not the second Beast foretold Rev. 13.11 Chap. 7. Arg 6. Sect 1. All Idolatry is exhibiting Divine Worship to a creature Sect. 2. All will-worship of God is not Idolatry Sect. 3. This Authors Argument as well proves himself an Idolater as the Conformist Sect. 4. Prayer in a stinted form may be worship of God of his appointment Sect. 5. Common-Prayer Book worship shuts not out of doors the exercise of the gift of Prayer Sect. 6. Common-Prayer Book worship is not of pure humane invention Sect. 7. Common-Prayer Book worship is the same with the worship of the Reformed Churches Sect. 8. No particularity instituted is a meer circumstance yet particularities undetermined are Sect. 9. Praying in a form may be praying in the Spirit Sect. 10. The Forms of Prayer imposed are not made necessary essential parts of Worship Sect. 11. Acting in the holy things of God by the Office Power and Modes of Idolaters may be without Idolatry Sect. 12. The English Ministers oppose Popish Idolatry as other Protestants Sect. 13. The Ministers of England act not by vertue of an Office Power from Idolaters Sect. 14. The Common-Prayer Book worship was not abused to Idolatry Sect. 15. Kneeling in the receiving the Sacramental Elements is not Idolatry Sect. 16. The crimination of the Ministers as Idolaters is not excusable Sect. 17. The Martyrs are unjustly made Idolaters by this Author Chap. 8. Arg. 7. and 8 Sect. 1. Every offence of others makes not sinful that which is otherwise lawful Sect. 2. Hearing the present Ministers may be the Saints duty Sect. 3. Sinful scandalizing is not by hearing the present Ministers Sect. 4. It is not scandal given but when the offensive action is done blameably Sect. 5. Offending some sincere Christians by hearing the present Ministers is not the scandalizing threatned Matth. 18.16 Sect. 6. The Separatists give more just cause of offence to godly sober Christians than the Conformists do to them Sect. 7. Hearing the present Ministers may be without participation with them in sin Chap. 9. Arg 9 10 11 12. Sect. 1. Separation of some from other Christians is no institution of Christ. Sect. 2. Meeting of Christians as a distinct body is not Christs Institution Sect. 3. Separated Congregational Churches in opposition to National are not of Christs Institution Sect. 4. To attend only on the Ministry of Ministers of Congregational Churches is not Christs appointment Sect. 5. Hearing the present Ministers casts no contempt on Christs Institutions Sect. 6. Hearing the present Ministers hardens none in sin Sect. 7. Gods people are not called out of the Temples in England as places of false Worship Sect. 8. There is ground to expect a blessing in hearing the present Ministers Sect. 9. Hearing the present Ministers is no step to Apostasie Sect. 10. Pollution in one part makes not the whole worship polluted Chap. 10. Fifty Arguments for hearing the present Ministers Sect. 1. Christs direction Matth. 23.2 3. warrants hearing the present Ministers Sect. 2. The Scribes and Pharisees sate in Moses his Chair as Teachers not as Magistrates Sect. 3. The Pharisees were not Church Officers of Gods appointment Sect. 4. Christ allows hearing the Pharisees while they taught the Law of Moses Sect. 5. Hearing Pharisees teaching Moses Law not attendance on their Ministry as Pastors is allowed by Christ. Sect. 6. Christ and his Apostles going to the Jewish Meetings is opposite to the Separatists opinion and practise Sect. 7. Pauls rejoycing at the preaching Christ of contention warrants hearing the present Ministers Sect. 8. The truth Ministers teach warrants the hearing of them Sect. 9. Evil persons may be heard as true Ministers Sect. 10. It is a sin not to encourage good men in their Ministry Sect. 11. The example of the learned
they that persecuted them for so doing may expect the like judgments of God to fall on them as fell on the Jewes But if it be otherwise and the things inveighed against be not such as they make them and their bearing testimony be such as tends to infringe the publique peace but not to rectify any thing they are guilty of calumny and their practice not to be judged to proceed from holy zeale but evil passion Sect. 11. The conformist not chargeable as the false Prophets of the Jewes Sixthly saith he that they had all along their corruption in worship and degeneracy from the worship of God false Prophets who ran before they were sent prophesying smooth things to them in the name of the Lord seeing Lying vanities for them according to the desires of the hearts of them and their Rulers who were therefore in great esteem amongst them Isa. 9.15 and 28.7 Jer. 6.13 and 23.11 28. and 28.10 Hos. 9 8 Jer. 2.8 26. and 5.31 and 14.14 and 23.13 21. Ezek. 13.2 and 22.25 28. Mic. 3.5 6 7. Zeph. 3.4 2 Pet. 2.1 Answer All this is granted and if any of the Preachers in England prophesie lies in Gods name or bring in damnable heresies denying the Lord that bought them or are such as those whom the Texts alledged describe let them be branded as false Prophets But if they teach the fundamentals of Christian Religion truly and in respect of the substance of worship use no other than God hath appointed though they may in some points remote from the foundation erre and use some things in and about the worship of God which should not be yet do not overthrow the worship of God in substantials then are they false accusers who accuse them as if they were such as those Texts of Scripture alledged do describe Sâ—ct 12. Invectives against teachers and worship now may be from another spirit than that of the Prophets Seventhly saith he that in the height of their Apostacy God left not himself without a witness having one or other extraordinarily raised up and spirited by him to testify for his name and glory against all their abominations and self-invented worship reserving also a remnant unto himself that were not carried away with the Spirit of whoredoms and delusions 1 Kings 19.14 18. 2 Kings 17.13 Romans 11.3 4. Jer. 18.11 and 25.5 and 35.15 Answer That self invented worship was bowing the Knee to Baal 1 Kings 19.18 Rom. 11.3 4. serving Idols 2 Kings 17.12 burning Incense to vanity Jer. 18.15 going after other Gods to serve them and worship them Jer. 25.6 and 35.15 If there be found any such self-invented worship in the Church of England it will do well to testifie against it But if there be not such abominations and self-invented worship these texts will not justify Persons who have no other than ordinary calling to testify against them much less to censure them as whoredoms and delusions and they that practice them as carried away with the spirit of whoredoms and delusions And though persons may imagine they imitate Elijah are extraordinarily raised up and spirited by God and that they testify for Gods name and Glory when they call the Common-prayer Book an Idol the Ministers that conform Baals Priests the Communion the Mass with such like Billingsgate Rhetorick yet it is not unlikely but that it may be truly verified of such which our Lord Christ said to James and John when they would have fire commanded to come down from Heaven and consume the Samaritans even as Elias did ye know not what manner of Spirit ye are of and that it may be bitter and not holy zeal which moves them and their language judged by God not just reproof but unjust reviling Sect. 13. The forsaking of false Prophets and worship among the Jewes is no justification of separation from the present teachers and worship Eighthly saith he that it was the sin of that People to hearken unto the teachings of such as were not sent by the Lord though they pretended never so much to be sent by him and the unquestionable duty of the Lords preserving Remnant to separate from them as also from all the false devised worship of that day though commended by their Kings and Rulers 2 Kings 17.21 22. Hos. 5.11 The former is evident such Prophets were to be cut off from the middest of them Deut. 18.20 and they are expressely forbidden to hear them Deut. 13.3 Jer. 27.6 16. so is the latter their devised worship being a breach upon the soveraign Authority of God must needs be a grievous sin as the names of Adultery Whoredom Idolatry Fornication by which the Spirit of the Lord doth frequently set it forth abundantly demonstrates Psal. 73.27 Isai. 57.3.8 Jer. 9.2 EZek. 23.45 Hos. 3.7 and 7.3 Lev. 20.5 Jer. 13.27 Ezek. 16 17.20.30 Hos. 1.2 Rev. 14.8 and 18.9.19 20. which without controversie the people of God were to separate from and have no communion with any in upon what pretence soever which is solemnly charged upon them as their duty in the Scripture Hos. 4.15 Amos 5.5 Prov. 4.14 and 5.8 Cant. 4.8 Answer None are said in those Texts or any other I meet with not to be sent by the Lord who delivered the truth of God but they only in those places are denied to be sent by God who delivered falsehoods and such falsehoods as were inciting to Idolatry or contradictions to the messages of the true Prophets and such were not to be heard though they should be commâ—nded by Kings and Rulers who ought to cut them off when they spake in Gods name a word which he had not commanded them to speak or did speak in the name of other Gods Deut. 18.20 And if they sought to turn them from the Lord to serve other Gods they were not only not to hearken to them but also if they were never so near to them they should not spare them but kill them Deut. 13.9 which I presume he will not say of the present ministers of England and therefore me thinks he should have left out these allegations if he had well bethought himself how unfit they were to his present designe That devised worship which is termed Adultery Whoredom Idolatry Fornication is Levit. 20.5 Committing whoredom with Molech Psal. 73.27 being farre from God going a whoring from him Isaia 57.5 inflaming themselves with Idols under every green Tree slaying the Children in the Valleys under the Clefts of the Rocks Jerem. 9.2 treachery Jer. 13.27 abominations on the hill in the fields Ezek. 16.17 making to her self images of men to commit Whoredom with them v. 20. Sacrificing their Sons and Daughters to them to be devoured Ezek. 23.37 Committing Adultery with Idols Hos. 1.2 departing from the Lord Revel 14.8 and 18.9 such fornication as Babylon made all Nations even Kings of the earth to commit and from such it is without controversie the people of God were to separate and have no communion with any in upon any
insufficient for what they are produced yet is not the Minor proved till the sin be shewed which is committed by hearing the present Ministers for where there is no Law forbidding there is no transgression Rom. 4.15 and not People affrighted by filling them with unnecessary scruples nor divided one from another upon such suggestions as this Writing yields nor drawn to separations and oppositions which tend to the undoing of men in their Estates hinder the publick Peace and the furtherance of the Gospel To prevent which it little avails that this Author acquaints us with his motive in his writing this piece For though all he sayes of himself were true as Charity binds me to believe it to be yet it serves only to create prejudice in the minds of well-meaning People who are led more by the opinion they have of the Writer than by the strength of his Arguments and for the most part hinders the impartial search for truth and makes men adhere faster to a party We know the opinion that was had of the holiness of the Pharisees was the greatest stumbling-block to the Jews against Christs Doctrine and the opinion of the holiness of Monks was the great furtherance of Popish Superstition and Idolatry and the opinion of many Teachers hath bred many Errours of which I gave warning many years since in a little Treatise Entituled Anthropolatria on 1 Cor 3.21 foreseeing as it hath come to pass that glorying in Teachers would be the mischief of the Churches from which it is time to take off People and to make them more diligent and serious in examining what is said on both sides as the Apostle admonisheth us 1 Thess. 5 21. Nevertheless I doubt not but in the progress of this dispute I shall shew Scripture warrant for hearing the Ministers of England that preach the Gospel notwithstanding the objections against them and accordingly proceed in answering this Writing that I may promote Truth and Peace which is my aim however I be censured hoping that in time God will direct honest-hearted persons to unlearn that mischievous course of esteeming res ex personis things by persons and give over that evil custom of too many who speak for or against opinions or practices according to the affection they bear to men and have no other argument why they refuse a thing but this that good people as they judge them are against it nor why they adhere to it but because they are for it Which is in effect to make them their Masters contrary to Christs Prerogative Mat. 23.10 and in some sort idolizing of them Nor do I think it unfit to mind this Author that it were adviseable that he did better examine his Tenet and Arguments sith as Gisbertus Voetius Professour of Utrecht saith Polit. Eccl. part 1 lib. 2. Tract 1. c. 7. Sect. 3. that it is the common opinion of all the Reformed Divines who notwithstanding the defect of Reformation of Rites and Government in the Church of England under Edward Elizabeth James have held fraternity with it constantly that consent in Ceremonies or the manner or form of Government is not necessarily required to retain or restore fraternity between Churches of the greatest greater or lesser diverse union and correspondence CHAP. 2. ARG. 2. Sect. 1. Preachers may be heard as teaching Truth IF it be lawful to hear the present Ministers of England it is lawful to hear them either as Ministers of the Gospel or Gifted Brethren But it is not lawful to hear them either as Ministers of the Gospel or as Gifted Brethren Therefore The major or first Proposition will not be denied That Christ hath appointed some as Ministers by vertue of an Office-power to dispense the Ordinances of the Gospel until his second coming is granted by all that it is permitted to others as their liberty enjoyned them as their duty having Gifts and Enablements from the Lord thereunto to improve those Gifts in Preaching Praying c. for the edification of the body of Christ though not solemnly invested into Office is assented unto at least by some of those with whom we have to do whence a lawfulness to hear them as Ministers or as Gifted Brethren doth necessarily arise Answ. I deny the Major or the consequence of the first proposition 1. Because the disjunction is of terms not opposite but coincident the same persons may be and are both Ministers of the Gospel and Gifted Brethren and may be heard under both considerations 2. The disjunction is not full sith a third member may be assigned that they may be heard as preaching or declaring the Word of God or speaking the truth of the Gospel which is the only consideration requisite to the Hearer to be respected in Hearing 1. Because God hath forbidden hearing of none but such as teach falshoods and therefore Hearers are not bound to decline Hearing any but such as they have reason to conceive teach contrary to Gods Word 2. Because Hearers are not all of them at any time nor any of them at all times enabled or fit to examine the Office Power or Gifts or Brotherhood of those they may hear 3. It is lawful to hear such as are neither in Office Power nor Gifted Brethren as it was lawful for Apollos to hear Priscilla Acts 18.26 Timothy to hear Lois his Grandmother and Eunice his Mother 1 Tim. 1.5 2 Tim. 3.15 the Iberian Prince the Captive Maid the Indians Frumentius 4. The Beraeans are commended for their examining St. Pauls Doctrine without examining his Office Power or his Gifts or Brotherhood Acts 17.11 5. If the Scriptures be the rule of the Doctrine we are to hear then are we bound to look to no more for the lawfulness of our hearing than the congruity or agreement of what we hear with it yea we sin if we do not hear it whoever he be that brings it as on the other side if any bring it not though he be a Minister in Office Power or a Gifted Brother yea or an Apostle or an Angel from Heaven he is not to be heard Gal. 1.8 9. 6. To forbid a man to hear him that preacheth or declares the Truth of God because he knows him not to be or conceives him not to be a Minister in Office Power or a Gifted Brother perhaps out of partial prejudice against him or upon false reports and surmises or because he is not of his Party may be a means to hinder a mans edification and salvation and to harden him to his perdition Which is not unusual but too too often many declining to hear them that preach sound Doctrine because they say they rail when they reprove their errours or vices and choosing to hear those that are of their way and preach according to that which they like or else turn Seekers denying any to be Ministers but such as speak by immediate and unerring motion of the Spirit or hearing none at all because of dissenting judgment from themselves Wherefore though
the characters of false Prophets and Priests upon them Therefore The major or first Proposition stands upon too firm a basis to be quickly removed nor will any attempt so to do Christ having charged his to beware of such Mat. 7.15 to take heed that none deceive them Mat. 24 4 5 23 24 25. not to believe every spirit but to try the spirits because many false Prophets are gone out in the world 1 Joh. 4.1 not to receive such into their houses 2 Joh. 10.11 to watch against them Acts 20.29 30 31. with much more that might be said if needful for its confirmation is a sufficient evidence of the truth thereof But herein the parties litigant are at a perfect agreement Answ. It is true the major is yielded if the hearing be meant of hearing them of choice or with reception and separation from them in respect of that wherein they are false Prophets and Priests But if it should fall out that one that should as Balaam at one time prophesie as he did Numb 23. and 24. at another time through his counsel cause the committing of a trespass against the Lord as in the matter of Peor Numb 31.16 hold the doctrine of Balaam who taught Balack to cast a stumbling block before the children of Israel to eat things sacrificed unto Idols and to commit fornication Rev. 2.14 or as Caiaphas being high Priest that year at one time prophesie that Jesus should die for that Nation and not for that Nation only but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad Joh. 11.51 52. At another time say that Christ had spoken blasphemy Mat. 26 65. Such a one may be heard joyned with in the former though not in the latter Whence it follows that it is not the Character or property of the man who is a false Prophet or a false Priest that is the reason why he is not to be heard or is to be separated from but his false doctrine and his evil counsel whereby he seeks to thrust us away from the Lord our God Deut. 13.2 6 10. or the damnable heresies denying the Lord that bought them as it is 2 Pet. 2.1 turning the grace of God into lasciviousness and denying the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ Jude 4. that do denominate them false Prophets or false Priests and bind us to a refusal of hearing them or joyning with them in that Communion in which we cannot partake without fellowship in their errour false Worship or other sin And this is it which is to be collected from the Texts alledged not that we are to refuse to hear persons or separate from them because of their personal vices or irregular obtruding themselves into their places but in respect of their pernicious Doctrine and impious Worship by which we are in danger to be ensnared and defiled We are bidden Beware of false Prophets Mat. 7.15 but no where is any called a false Prophet but from his false Doctrine And therefore though his counterfeit shews of Piety be mentioned as the bait to catch men yet the false doctrine is the hook they are to beware of as in like manner St. Paul warns Rom. 16.17 18. and St. Peter 2 Pet. 2.1 2 3. And thus in the places cited where Christ bids take heed that no man deceive them he alledgeth the reason For many shall come in my name saying I am Christ and shall deceive many Mat. 24.4 5. and v. 23. If any man shall say unto you Lo here is Christ or there believe it not for there shall arise false Christs and false Prophets and shall shew great signs and wonders insomuch that if it were possible they shall deceive the very Elect v. 24. the false Prophets that were gone out into the world 1 Joh. 4.1 were they that confessed not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh v. 3. the person not to be received into house 2 Joh. 10.11 is he that brought not the doctrine of Christ v. 9. that confessed not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh who is the Deceiver and Antichrist v. 7. those that the Ephesian Elders were to watch against Acts 20 31. were grievous wolves that should enter in among them not sparing the flock and men arising of their own selves speaking perverse things to draw away Disciples after them v. 29 30. And thus farr I agree to the major let us see how he proves the Ministers to be such Sect. 2. The Ministers not false Prophets because not sent as Jer. 23.21 Rom. 10.15 is meant 'T is the minor Proposition saith he that is judged by some to come short of a sufficient substraction viz. That the present Ministers of England have the properties and characters of false Prophets and Priests upon them This we doubt not by a serious observation of the characters are given of such in the Scriptures by the Holy Ghost will to any ordinary understanding be made exceeding perspicuous and evident The signal characters of whom are 1. That they run before they are sent Jer. 23.21 That a mission from the Lord is of the essence of a lawful Ministry that whoever wants such a mission is no officer of Christ but a false Prophet and Minister of Antichrist may hence rationally at least by way of Analogy be deduced is evident which also exactly accords with what is asserted by the Apostle Rom. 10.15 That the present Ministers of England want such a mission hath already been demonstrated and we shall not actum agere In a word when it shall be proved that they have received their authority from Christ either immediately or mediately from any rightly constituted Church of Christ or by succession from the Church in the Wilderness we shall acknowledge them to be Ministers of Christ and look upon our selves as obliged to pay them all honour and duty that as such we are charged in Scripture to do But if they have nothing else to plead for themselves but what is usually instanced in by them a succession from the Church of Rome That Apostate Church having lost her Churchship and therewith all lawful power for the sending forth Officers into the Churches of Christ we shall not fear to say That they are such as are characterized here by the Prophet persons that run before they are sent Answ. A man that meant honestly and had any spark of charity justice or ingenuity would not charge so deeply the whole order of men throughout a Nation containing many thousands of men of years breeding parts and by reason of their Calling to be reverenced and some of them by his own Confession good men as being false Prophets who by the Law of Moses Deut. 13.5 were to die and as false Priests without some irrefragable proof unless he had learned that accursed art of him in Terence Calumniare audacter aliquid haerebit or having once past the bounds of modesty were resolved to be gnaviter impudens But
pernicious wickedness in whomsoever though reputed Saints And though there is too much cause to bewail that there is so little effect upon the preaching of the present Ministers yet sure to argue thence that they are not sent of God but are false Prophets is altogether inconsequent Mr. Robinson in his justification of separation p. 306 307. speaks better than so when he saith It is most evident that whosoever converteth a man unto God that person doth in truth and in deed Minister the word of God and the spirit by the word and so may be said to be sent of God In that general and large sense wherein Mr. Bernard p. 313. expounds the word Sent or Apostle I do acknowledge many Ministers in England sent of God that is that it comes not to pass without the special providence and ordination of God that such and such men should rise up and preach such and such truths for the furtherance of the salvation of Gods elect in the places where they come But this Accuser adds Sect. 5. The Ministers are not proved such daubers as those Ezek. 22.28 4. That they prophesie placentia smooth things according to the desires tempers and lusts of men to the pleasing of whom they addict themselvs Jer. 6.14 and 27.9 Ezek. 13.10 11. and 22 28. What visible lineaments of such a frame of spirit are drawn upon the faces of that generation of men concerning whom we are now discoursing Have they not been of all others I am now speaking of such as are looked upon by Professors as men of the greatest parts and holiness the most ready to strike in with preach up and plead for what was suitable unto the spirits of such upon whom they have had a dependance 'T were indeed well for them could they in their present standing and practise acquit themselves from that sore crime of seeking to please men which if they do they cannot be the servants of Christ Gal. 1.10 Answ. They do by their glossings and flatteries lull people asleep in security bearing them in hand that there is no such dangerous matter towards them as Gods Prophets tell them but that all shall be well whatsoever they say see the same chap. 8.11 see also Lam. 2.14 Ezek. 13.22 is Mr. Gatakers Paraphrase in his Annotations on Jer. 6.14 That which was prophesied Jer. 27.9 is expressed to be that they should not serve the King of Babylon The daubing Ezek. 13.10 11. was by seeing vanity and divining lies ver 9. Ezek. 22.28 saying Thus saith the Lord when the Lord hath not spoken If the present Ministers of England do so they are to be accounted false Prophets But do not this Authors own words in the next crimination before when he saith perhaps they do in their Sermons reprove sin thunder out the Judgments of God against transgressors of his Law as much as any clear the Ministers and prove himself guilty of false accusation what those visible lineaments of such a frame of spirit are should have been named if he would have dealt plainly If men of greatest parts and holiness on one side have been the most ready to strike in with preach up and plead for what was suitable unto the spirits of such upon whom they have had dependance may it not be said so of men of the greatest parts and holiness of the Congregational party that they have been liable to the like It were well if both parties would search themselves and not be so forward to accuse each other As I conceived long ago in my printed Treatise of glorying in men on 1 Cor. 3.21 so I am still by much experience confirmed that the so termed Professors of England out of their injudiciousness and partial affection have done much hurt to themselves and the Church of God by looking upon glorying in adhering to some as of greatest parts and holiness with disparagement of others whence evil surmizes censurings divisions from them that are disaffected swallowing down without chewing what those utter whom they follow which hath been a temptation to Teachers to vent such things as were not right for the retaining of their followers and a trap whereby their hearers have been ensnared to their own and others no small disquietness And I agree with this Author that it were well indeed with the Ministers and with their dissenters or opposites if they could all acquit themselves from this sore crime of seeking to please men and that we could all 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 seek and speak the truth in love Ephes. 4.15 Yet further saith he Sect. 6. Ministers changing of places sadning some mens hearts not characters of a false Prophet 5. That they are greedy Dogs that can never have enough and look every man for his gain from his quarter Isa. 56.11 seeking and serving themselves in their ministration Ezek. 13.19 Micah 3. 5.11 in the Margin In a translation of the New Testament dedicated to Edward the Sixth the Author of the Notes on Chap. 10. sayes We must preach the truth without any respect of reward or gains They therefore that preach for their bellies sake or preach after the prescript of man are not the Disciples of Christ. That herein is a perfect harmony betwixt these false Prophets and the present Ministers of England cannot be denied what means else their frequent calls from places of less to places of greater value their gaping and greedy desires after preferment the vexations they put poor men to that cannot in conscience put into their mouths preparing War against them Answ. Isa. 56.11 may be understood as well of the civil Magistrate as the Minister and of neither is it a Character of a Minister not to be heard as being a false Prophet nor of an usurper or unlawful Magistrate that is not to be obeyed Ezek. 13.19 notes a Character of a false Prophet but the proper character of him as such is not that he prophecied for handfuls of Barley or pieces of Bread but that they polluted God among his people by lying to them Micah 3.5 is a character of a false Prophet in that they made Gods people to erre their preparing war against him that put not into their mouth is a common accident to corrupt men not a property of a false Prophet and in like manner the Prophets divining for money ver 11. or the Priests teaching for money no more proves a false Prophet or false Priest then the heads judging for reward proves them false heads these are their personal vices which may be in a true Prophet as in Judas and in a true Priest as Hophni or in a true head as in Jehoiakim Jer. 22.17 and so are impertinent to prove a Minister a false Prophet Nor is it any more to the purpose what is in the Margin sith he that preacheth truth with respect of reward or gains may be a true Prophet though not a good man and so they that preach for their bellies sake though if they preach not
the Children of God that the first Beast hath exercised upon the Saints for this 1260. years to be charged upon this Generation of men yea who do more eagerly press a rigid Conformity not only contrary to the Kings Declaration from Breda and others since published by him but also as is thought to his natural temper and the inclination and bent of his spirit though to the infringing of the liberty the banishment the taking away the lives of the Saints who love Truth and Peace and humbly beg that they may be suffered for the tribute they pay as in the Dominion of the Grand Seignior they are in quietness to serve God according to their perswasins Answ. It is true false Prophets are noted by Christ Matth. 7.15 to be in outward shew as sheep meek and holy inwardly cruel But this is not the form denominating them false Prophets nor a signal character of them by which they are known but a reason of the caution of being deceived by their fair shews That by which they are false Prophets and are known to be such is their fruits v. 16. which though variously expounded by the Ancients and Maldonat understands it of their works Grotius of the works of iniquity yet of the Ancients some understand it of their faith Protestants some by fruits understand their false doctrine and evil life as Beza their doctrine manner of teaching spiritual efficacy in their hearts their life customes and intentions so Diodati Annot. their doctrin self-seeking and wickedness so the large Annot. Pareus The fruit of a false Prophet is his false and damnable doctrine Dr. Hammond Ye shall certainly know and discern them if you take notice of and weigh the doctrines which when they have gotten some authority with you they will presently endeavour to infuse into you Piscator in his Scholies From the effects of their doctrin For as for what pertains to life it may be that he may teach well who lives ill Molin Vates l. 3. c. 5. The fruits which their doctrine produceth in the minds of Auditors That the doctrin is meant by the fruits Matth. 7.16 was long since in my Antidote Sect. 9. asserted and in my Praecursor vindicated Sect. 14. to which I still adhere and therefore count this which is here made a signal character of a false Prophet unfit to that end as being congruous to them who are no Prophets in pretence and to them who may be true Prophets or Teachers The second Beast Revel 13.11 is saith Molin Vates l. 5. c. 17. The Roman Clergy with the Pope himself the Bishop of Rome with his Clergy saith Mr. Mede Comment on Revel 13.11 most of the Protestant Divines make it either the Pope when he usurped the power over the Emperour or the Pope and his Clergy who were indeed terrible in their Edicts and Laws stirring up and making use of the powers of the world to persecute kill and destroy the Saints But this did not shew them false Prophets but their false doctrine But that as face answers face in a glass so do the present Ministers of England the false Prophets there spoken of is said with much heat and without proof That all the Persecutions Imprisonments slaughters and butcheries of the Children of God that the first Beast whether he mean it of the Roman Emperours or ten Horns that is ten Kings into which it was parted or the Bishop of Rome hath exercised upon the Saints for this 1260. years are to be charged upon this generation of men that is the present Hierarchy and Ministry of England which he means if he speak pertinently is I confess a very dreadful and heavy sentence but pronounced à non judice who I hope will be found a false Prophet in the event as it shews him inwardly cruel to them and by his own rule is a signal character of himself being a false Prophet I hope by their appeal to heaven they will get this Indictment quasht I presume the rigid conformity pressed hath not yet tended to the banishment the taking away of the lives of the Saints who love Truth and Peace and I wish such writings and practices as this Author and some others are deemed to use do not exasperate the King and Parliament to effect it I assent to what he saith of his Majesty as having by experience found it true which in all humble thankfulness I acknowledge nor do I doubt but he is as the Poet describes a good Prince Est piger ad paenas Princeps ad praemia velox Quique dolet quoties cogitur esse ferox Concerning the Declaration from Breda and other Declarations since published by his Majesty how far the pressing of rigid Conformity opposeth and who are the causes thereof is above our cognizance who are at so great a distance That the present Ministers who are the ordinary Teachers to be heard are the men that do it hath no likelihood sith they are the men upon whom the rigid conformity is pressed and therefore this allegation is very inaptly made a signal character of their being false Prophets Sect. 8 The charge Ezek. 22.26 reacheth not the Ministers of England It follows 9. That they put no difference betwixt the Holy and Prophane Ezek. 22.26 Do not even the Ministers of England the same Are not all their dear Brethren and Sisters living and dead though Drunkards Swearers Adulterers and Adulteresses c. Are not as was said the children of them all admitted to the Font and they themselves to the Lords Table Is not the childrens meat frequently given unto Dogs and the holy Ordinances prostituted to be polluted by the worst of men Answ. The charge Ezek. 22.26 is against the Priests of the Law accusing them of neglecting to discern between clean and unclean Offerings as Piscator in his Analysis Grotius They made not them to understand to wit the difference from that which was common They are the very words from Lev. 10.10 where they are commanded to do what here they are said to have neglected That is holy which is dedicated unto God Profane which is in common use Polluted which is forbidden to be eaten clean which it is lawful to eat Aynsworth on Lev. 10.10 That ye may separate or to make difference and this is meant not only for themselves but others as in Ezek. 44.23 They shall teach my people the difference between holy and profane and cause them to discern between unclean and clean And for not doing this the Priests are blamed Ezek. 22.16 see also Lev. 20.25 holy Heb. holiness meaning of persons and things In Greek Between the holy ones and the profane which Texts and others as Levit. 22.1 2 3. shew that this thing was an evil indeed of a Levitical Priest when either they admitted unclean and profane Offerings of Beasts or Fowls or legally unclean persons or taught not the people to put difference between them yet was no Character distinguishing a false Priest from a true
other may be said to be Idolaters the hearts of the best men 〈◊〉 too often going forth too farr in desires after and secret dependence upon things beneath the Lord which yet they are watching and warring against waiting and longing for the day in which they shall be câ—mpleatly swallowed up in the will of God T is in respect of the sâ—cond particular before instanc'd in that we assert the present Ministers of England to be Idolaters To the proof whereof we now addâ—ess ourselves Answ. The Conclusion is not the same with that which at first Ch. 1. was undertaken to be defended That it is not lawful for the Saints to hear the present Ministers of England nor doth it necessarily follow that if we may not have communion with persons nor own them as our teachers but separate from them That we may not hear them preach the Gospel An excommunicate person I am not to have communion with nor to own the Teachers of forreign Churches as suppose the Lutheran as my teachers yea I may be bound to separate from such as suppose a Popish Priest as Jansenist preaching the doctrine of original sin of efficacious grace or the Gospel concerning redemption by the blood of Christ whom yet I may lawfully hear handling those truths according to the received doctrine of St. Augustin Nor is the maâ—or true if the Idolatry be in that way which he here calls Idolatry the worshipping of God in any other way than what he hath prescribed nor if the Idolatry be secret and not open nor though it be open if by infirmity he fall into it and repents or be not censured as such or teacheth nor such Idolatry nor requires any communion with him in his Idolatry Nor do the Texts prove his maâ—or 1 Cor. 5 11. forbids no oâ—her communion than eating and that eating which might be with Idolaters of this wâ—â—ld v. 10 and therefore not eating the Lords Supper Nor doth it any moâ—e forbid eating with a Bâ—other called an 〈◊〉 than with a Brother called a fornicatour or covetous 〈…〉 or an extortioner and therefore if this Text prove a necessity of separation from such in holy exercises as Prayer or the Lords Supper it forbids doing these things with a covetous person or railer and then a Christian Brother must have cognizance of such sins and be a Judge of every one he communicates with which were absurd and therefore it can be meant of no other than arbitrary familiar converse as in eating where I am at liberty to eat or not to eat and of private judgement of discretion which each one is to exercise in the choice of his company But nothing to the owning of a Teacher or shunning to hear him For here the person is considered only as a Brother not a Teacher in Office 1 Cor. 10 14. is less to the purpose for it requires only to flee from Idolatry not from Teachers that are any way Idolatrous so as not to hear them 2 Cor. 6.14 15 16 17 18. requires not to be yoaked with Infidels not to have part with them not to agree with Idols to come out from among Infidels to be separate not to touch the unclean thing that is the Idol which may be done and yet a person some way guilty of Idolatry may be heard yea owned as our Teacher and we may have some communion with him in holy things as in Prayer and the Lords Supper and praising God which are not Idolatrous That which is premised by this Author before his confirmation of the minor requires some Animadversions upon it The definition of Idolatry which hitherto hath been received by all Protestants that I know of is that which Dr. John Rainold hath delivered in his 2 d. Book de Idololatria Ecclesiae Romanae c. 1. that it is the exhibiting of Divine Worship to a Creature and hath proved it from Rom. 1.25 where 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 whether it be read instead of the Creatour as explained by the Authors of the writing of the Constitutions of Clemens by 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as it is cited by Grotius in his Annot. or Praeterito Creatore the Creatour being forsaken or neglected as Beza after Hilarius or besides the Creatour as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 besides that which is laid 1 Cor. 3 11. or as the Vulgar Potius quam Creatori rather than to the Creatour or as ours more than the Creatour shews that there is a worship and service proper to the Creatour and herein was the Idolatry of the Gentiles and all other that they worshipped and served the creature with that which was due only to the Creatour And therefore I conceive it not to be Idolatry where Divine Worship is not exhibited to a creature that is directed to some person or thing substance or accident real or imagined which is not the Creatour of all things It is true that Heathen-Idolaters did many of them make the Creatour of all the utmost bound or terminus of their Image-worship as the Apostle saith Acts 17.23 that the Athenians did ignorantly worship the unknown God and yet were Idolaters because their worship was first of the Image as the next terminus or object to which it was exhibited And the same is true of the Israelites worshipping of the calf though they worshipped God in it Exod. 32.5 because though they did not worship the Calf terminatively that is so as to intend to direct their worship to it as the utmost bound of it or last or chief object yet it was the molten Image which they worshipped Psal. 106.19 Exod. 32.8 It is indeed most gross and absurd Idolatry when the creature is worshipped terminatively and therefore the worship of Baal is accounted worse than the worship of the golden calves at Dan and Bethel 1 Kings 16.31 because it was terminated lastly to the Sun or to the Devil who was worshipped by Molech to whom they sacrificed their Sons and Daughters Psal. 106.37 38. And this Idolatry was the Idolatry of the Canaanites and a great part of the world and of the Jewes at last as St. Stephen chargeth them with Acts 7.41 42 43. Nor do I think it true which this Author here and p. 63. saith that there are few or none that worship the creature Terminative sith not only of old the host of Heaven was worshipped by most of the Idolaters as may be gathered out of the Scriptures and is largely demonstrated by Mâ— Selden in his Syntagma de Diis Syris but also at this day the Devil himself is worshipped in the East and West-Indies in some Northern Countries and Southern if the relation of Travellers Historians and Chorographers be true It is granted that it is somewhat more refined Idolatry when we offer up any worship or homage proper and due to God only before any creature as the medium or representative of God For then the worship is directed to it as Gods Deputy to receive it for him and so the
confirms himself in his superstitious errour and hinders his spiritual good and progress in Christianity and ensnares himself in an unjustifiable separation 2. He doth also truly scandalize others by his example confirming those that refuse to hear in their errour and schism whom he ought to oppose as St. Paul did St. Peter Gal. 2.11 when their shunning to hold communion with some as unclean tends to the establishing of an errour and schism as his did 3. By this refusing to hear the present Ministers through such suggestions as this Author instills into the minds of men against them people are driven from the publique Congregations and thereby the sheep of Christ are scattered some betake themselves to the meetings of Quakers where they are mis-led by the delusions of Satan under pretence of following the light within them other joyn with the Fifth monarchy men who pervert them with peruicious tenents and designes against Magistrates and in the best of the Separatists there is so much bitterness and enmity against dissenters from them instilled into their minds as quite breaks the bond of charity that should unite all Christs Disciplâ—s which surely is real Scandal 4. The Refuser to hear the pâ—esent Ministers doth really scandalize thoâ—e that aâ—e confoâ—mists in hearing who are therefore unrighteously judged censured and shunned as lapsed Brethren or meer Formalists and thereby are grieved and moved to mourn for this evil spirit that is between them and their Brethren The present Ministers are alâ—o much scandalized for the same cause and are much hindâ—ed in the performance of their ministry by reason of the opposition of the Separatists which experience hath too much shewed in former and later times to have hindred the fruits of many holy Preachers even Non-conformists labours and to have shortned their dayes so that upon the doors of the Separatists may be written with greater reason than upon the doors of the diligent conforming Preachers of the Gospel The Blood of Souls Therefore scandalizing by hearing the present Ministers is not forbidden in the Texts alleged 8. That Scandalizing is not forbidden in those Texts by avoiding of which the Magistrate is scandalized his government disturbed his power excited against others as disobedient to his Laws and for that reason many persons with their families undone in their liberties and outward estate For the offence of our Brother is not to be regarded by observing of that which will include in it disobedience to the command of the Magistrate which may be lawfully obeyed whereby his authority is nâ—glected his government disturbed division and ruine of families occasioned But so it is when the present Ministers are not heard as the state of things now is Therefore the Scandalizing by hearing the present Ministers is not forbidden in the Texts Rom. 14. 1 Cor. 8. and 10. It follows Sect. 4. It is not Scandal given but when the offensive action is done blameably If it be said Object That there is a twofold scandal 1. Scandalum acceptum a scandal or offence taken 2. Scandatum datum a scandal or offence given In respect of the former possibly many may be offended at their practice in the matter treated of and so would some or other whatever is done by them 'T is impossible but offences should come that there is any just offence given by them herein is denied To this we answer Answ. 1. That as we admit of the distinction so no doubt there is a truth in what is suggested thereupon that what ever I do some one or other will be offended at it there are a generation of men whom the doing of my duty will offend and cause to blaspheme thâ—se are not to be minded but to be pittied Christ himself was to some a rock of offence and stone of stumbling 2. But t is not yet proved nor like to be that the Scandal treated of is a Scandal taken and not given the very nature of â—candal given as is confest by all and evident beyond exception from the Apostles discourse 1 Cor. 8.10 lying in the doing of what is judged by me to be my liberty which other Saints are not fully perswaded of in their own minds to be so but are ready to conclude it to be my sin and evil and from thence have occasion of grief or stumbling administred to them This was the very case of the Church of Corinth upon the occasion whereof Paul writes to them 1 Cor. 8. some of them judged it their liberty to sit at meat in the Idols Temple others not being fully perswaded hereof were scandalized many wayes at this their practice which the Apostle therefore condemns as unlawful Answ. 1. That there is any generation of men whose offence is not to be minded is not the Doctrine of the Apostle but contrary to it 1 Cor. 10.32 33. Give none offence neither to the Jews nor to the Gentiles nor to the Church of God Even as I please all men in all things not seeking mine own profit but the profit of many that they may be saved Which practice of his he had expressed 1 Cor. 9.19 20 21 22 23· For though I be free from all men yet have I made my self servant unto all that I might gain the more And unto the Jews I became as a Jew that I might gain the Jews to them that are under the Law that I might gain them that are under the Law to them that are without Law as without Law being not without Law to Gâ—d but under the Law to Christ that I might gain them that are without Law To the weak I became as weak that I might gain the weak to all became I all things that I might by all means save some And this I do for the Gospels sake that I may be a joynt partaker thereof Where his avoiding of offence and pleasing all is not restrained to the Saints or the Church of God but is extended even to adversaries that opposed the Gospel to whom he would both forbear his liberty and do that which was otherwise not to be done as in the case of circumcising Timothy Acts 16.3 and taking on him a vow Acts 18.18 and purifying himself with others Acts 21.26 and 24.17 and other wayes Acts 26.25 26 27. while there was any likelyhood either of winning them to the liking of the Gospel or abating their opposition and procuring his own peace and safety But when it was dis-advantage to the truth of the Gospel he would not have Titus to be circumcised nor any compliance with the Jews in declining eating with the Gentiles Gal. 2.3 11 14 which yields us a rule whose offence we are to avoid with whom and when we are to comply in things lawful to wit with all either when we may win them to the embracing of the truth or the abating the opposition of adversaries or procuring our own peace Which is a good plea for them that by hearing the present Ministers do accommodate themselves in doing
rejoyced in no way was the acting of Pilate or Herod or the Jewes to be abetted but to be abhorred though the Counsel of God was to be justified and extolled as was done Acts 4.24 c. Should the Pope send Jesuites to preach the Gospel and they should continue to preach it and no doctrine antievangelical I know no reason why the Saints might not attend on their Ministry To the 2 d. 3 d. and 4 th Answers I reply That the preaching of Christ in opposition to Paul makes it probable that they were not real Saints nor true Ministers in his sence such motives being contrary to that brotherly love which is in every real Saint 1 John 3.14 and that order of the Church by which is a lawfull mission which me thinks he should not conceive to have been in them that acted in a way of contention against St. Paul the Apostle of the Gentiles And for the Ministers of England I like better the words of Mr. Iohn Robinson in his Justification of the Separation p. 307. then these Authors words In the general I confess there is a proportion and so in that general and large sence wherein Mr. Bernard pag. 313. expounds the word sent or Apostle I do acknowledge many Ministers in England sent of God that is that it comes not to pass without the special providence and Ordination of God that such and such men should rise up and preach such and such truths for the furtherance of the Salvation of Gods elect in the places where they come They which preached Christ of envy and strife to add more afflictions to the Apostles bonds were in this respect sent of God and therefore it was that the Apostle joyed at their preaching How much more they that preach of a sincere mind though through ignorance or infirmity both their place and enterance into it be most unwarrantable And sure if they may in this sense be said to be sent of God it follows Saints may hear them which was to be proved It is added Sect. 8. The truth Ministers teach warrants the hearing of them Object 4. The Ministers of England preach truth and is it not lawfull to hear truth preached We answer 1. That 't is lawfull to hear truth preached is readily granted but this must be done lawfully and in the way of Christs appointment 2. All that preach truth are not to be heard nor will our discenting brethren say they are For 1. There was never yet any Heretical preacher in the world but he preached some truth is it lawfull to hear such This will not be said 2. The Devil himself preached truth yet Christ forbids him and commands that he hold his peace 3. The Popish Priests preach truth yet who will say 't is lawfull to attend upon their Ministry But 3. As the present Ministers of England preach truth so 1. They preach it but by halves and dare not for fear of the L. Bishops inhibition preach any doctrine though never so clearly revealed in the Scriptures and owned by them as the truth of Christ he commands them not to meddle with 2. The main truths they preach at least many of them are contradicted in their practice They 'l tell you that the Lord Jesus is the great Prophet and King of his Church but how palpably this is contradicted by them in their practice conforming to institutions and laws that are not of his prescription who sees not This we have abundantly demonstrated 3. With the truth they preach they mingle errours directly contrary to the Scripture and the revelation of his will therein Instances of this kind have been already exhibited to which may be added many more we shall mention but a few 1. That the Ministry Worship and Government which Christ hath appointed to his Church is not to be received or joyned unto unless the Magistrates where they are reputed Christian do allow it 2. That the Apocryphal books which have in them errors 2 Mac. 12.44 45. 14.41 42. Eccles. 46.20 Wisd. 19.11 untruths 2 Esd. 14.21 22 23. 2 Mac. 2.4.8 Tob. 5.11 12 13. with 12.15 Judith 8.33 10.9 with v. 12. 11.6.12 13 14 15. 1 Mac. 9.3.18 with 2 Mac. 1.13 to 17. and 9.1.5.7.9.28.29 blasphemy Tobit 12.12.15 with Rom. 8.34 1 Tim. 2.5 Rev. 8.3.4 magick Tob. 6.6 7 8. 9.2.3 with 3.7 8. 11.10 11 13. with 2.9 10. and contradiction to the Canonical Scriptures Judith 9.2 3 4. compared with Gen. 49.5 6 7. Esther in the Apocrypha chap. 12.5 15.9 10. with Ester Canonical chap. 6.3 5.2 Eccles. 46.20 with Isa. 57. 2. may be used in the publick worship of God 3. That the most wicked and their seed may be compelled and received to be members of the Church 4. That Marriage may be forbidden at certain seasons as in Lent Advent Rogation-week c. 5. That Baptism is to be administred with a cross in the forehead and that as a symbolical sign 6. That though the most notorious obstinate offenders be partakers of the Lords Supper yet the people that joyn with them are not defiled thereby 7. That there may be Holy days appointed to the Virgin Mary John Baptist to the Apostles all Saints and Angels together also with Fasts on their Eves on Ember-days Fridays Saturdays so called heathenishly enough and Lent 8. That the Cope Surplice Tippit Rocket c. are meet and decent ornaments for the worship of God and Ministry of the Gospel 6. That the Book of Common-prayer is the true worship of God 10. That Christ descended into hell as if Christ descended into the place of the damned as the Papists hold 11. That Lord Bishops can give the holy Ghost and power to forgive and retain sins 12. That Altars Candles Organs c. are necessary and useful in the Church of God 13. That all children when baptized are regenerate and received by the Lord for his own children by adoption Common-prayer-book of publick Baptism Yea 14. That children being baptized have all things necessary for their salvation and shall undoubtedly be saved So they profess in the Order of Conformation in the Common-prayer-book with much more that might be offered in this matter I reply 1. The grant That it is lawfull to hear truth preached is sufficient to prove it lawful to hear the present Ministers preach truth which he denies not they do unless he could prove it were contrary to the way of Christ's appointment to hear the truth from them 2. All that preach some truth are not to be heard yet all that preach the great truths of the Gospel notwithstanding some errours non-fundamental may be heard especially if the errours be seldom or never pressed on the hearers but left to them to examine and to be approved or disproved Heretical Preachers are not to be heard because they preach not the great truths of the Gospel but errours which overthrow the foundation so do the Popish Priests yet it were no sin to hear
either of these speak truth The Devils we are to have no communion with God having put an utter enmity between the serpent and the seed of the woman 3. If the present Ministers of England preach truth but by halves it is lawful to hear them preach those halfs The Bishops allow them to preach all truths needful to salvation all that is contained in the Creed Lords Prayer and Ten Commandments in the 39 Articles the two Tomes of Homilies nor are men inhibited in Schools or Convocations or at some times in books published in Latine to discover any truths of God so it be done without disturbance or other evil consequence That some truths needful to be known are not permitted to be published to the vulgar auditories may have the same reason as Christ had for not acquainting his disciples with many things he had to say to them because they could not then bear them John 16.12 Some things may seem very clearly revealed in the Scriptures to some and be owned by them which are pernicious as that the Saints have all right to government that they are to smite the civil powers as part of the fourth Monarchy that justified persons are not under the command of the moral Law some disputable as about the thousand years reign That God cannot forgive sins without satisfaction to his justice Church-constitution Covenant Government and many more which it is agreeable to the Apostles rule Rom. 14.1 their practice Acts 15.28 not to vent in all sorts of auditories and if the Bishops do restrain Preachers especially those that are young raw injudicious but violent and apt to cause division they do agreeably to the Apostles rule to the example of all Churches where Government is not popular which breeds confusion yea I think the Separatists have found by experience some restraint necessary and that the universal liberty of Conscience or of prophesying as it is termed is intolerable and if Bishops who are men and may be more rigid then they should hold the reins in too hard yet there is no reason why the people should refuse to hear that truth which is necessary and sufficient to salvation because they cannot hear every truth which perhaps out of faction or a childish inconstancy or having itching ears they desire to know As for what is said about the Ministers contradicting their preaching by their practice it is answered before in the Answer to the 5 th Chapter And yet were it granted their personal evils are not sufficient to make the hearing of the truth unlawful to the hearers As for the errours they are said to mingle with the truths they teach they are not such as overthrow the foundation if they were errours and taught by them and therefore this is no sufficient reason why they may not be heard preaching necessary truths Yet to shew the futility of this allegation I shall consider each of the supposed errours The first I doubt not they will deny and require this Authour to prove it For the second it is not for ought I know preached by any of the Ministers That the Apocryphal books which have in them errours may be used in the publick worship of God nor do I think if they should so do could it well consist with their subscription to the sixth Article of the Confession of the Church of England which excludes them out of the Canon of holy Scriptures which contain all things necessary to salvation and saith The Church as Hierome saith doth read them for example of life and instructions of manners but yet doth it not apply them to stablish any doctrine And what Dr. Rainold the Bishop of Durham that now is with many of the English Protestant and conforming Divines have written about the Apocryphal Books is sufficient to clear the present Ministers from suspicion of complying with the Papists who according to the Decree of the Trent Council ses quarta put most of them though they leave out some of them into the Catalogue of sacred Books containing that truth and discipline of the Gospel which is saving and to be preached to every creature and receive and venerate them with equal affection of piety and reverence as other books of holy scripture And although the passages alleaged by this Authour are liable to exception nor do I think it fit for me to justifie or excuse them yet this I say to shew there is not a sufficient reason to withdraw from hearing the present Ministers preaching or praying 1. Some of the books are not appointed to be read at all 2. Some of those that are appointed to be read are capable of an easier censure and better construction then is put upon them by this Authour 3. That those which are not so capable of excuse yet are appointed to be read on such days and in such places as those that alleadge this for a reason of not hearing the present Ministers need not be present 4. That it was once resolved as lawful by Dr. George Abbot after Archbishop of Canterbury in his answer to Dr. Hill the Papist p. 317. from the Preface to the second Tome of the Homilies for the Minister instead of the Apocryphal books to read some other part of the Canonical Scripture of the old Testament Which things being considered there seems not for this to be a sufficient reason of not hearing the present Ministers or charging them as this Authour doth The third errour I conceive they will deny to be their tenent But concerning this and the 4th 5th 6â—â— 8th 9th 11th errours so much hath been said before chiefly in the answer to the 5 th 6 th 7 th chapters of this book that I need not here make a particular answer concerning each of these severally yet I say the things are not matters of the Ministers Doctrine however they be of their practice and therefore cannot be a reason of not hearing their Sermons And they who make this a sufficient reason not to hear or to pray or receive the Lords Supper with a person by reason of some errour he holds or teacheth or some undue practice on Gods worship or conversation with other men go against all rules and examples in holy Scripture and approved Christians and such a one must suppose Preachers infallible every Communicant unblameable or each Christian to have power to excommunicate if the person faulty be not amended upon his reproof that he must know what Tenents his Teacher holds and what is the conversation of each Communicant ere he can warrantably hear the one or communicate with the other Which with sundry other superstitious conceits or unnecessary scruples put an intolerable burden upon mens consciences and will as well prove withdrawing from the Ministers and Churches Congregational necessary as from the Conformists As for the 7th errour it will be denied by them to be their Tenent that there may be Holy days appointed to the Virgin Mary John Baptist c. For though they