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A41212 A compendious discourse upon the case, as it stands between the Church of England and of Rome on the one hand, and again between the same Church of England and those congregations which have divided from it on the other hand together with the treatise of the division of the English church and the Romish, upon the Reformation / enlarged with some explicatory additionalls by H.F. ... Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662. 1655 (1655) Wing F790; ESTC R5674 55,518 166

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for preserving that one body which is the Church Eph. 4. 4. 13. 16. II. As for Catholick or Vniversal Practice or Tradition which stands in the consent of all the Churches in all Nations and Ages since the Apostles as Sectaries wave it altogether as wholly contrary to their Novelty so Papists pretend it onely reducing it into the testimony of their present Church and cannot truly give Catholick Tradition for any point of their faith and worship wherein they differ from us But the Church of England in the midst between both denying onely the Romish Tradition which brings not down any part of their Faith or Worship through all Ages from the Apostles admits of the true Catholick Tradition or Practice and yields due Authority to it the force of it resting upon common sense and reason which is in every man and which he must forsake that denies the Witnes of such Tradition it being not possible that all the Christian Churches which began in and about the Apostolical Times and so succeeded through all Nations and Ages should be either deceived in what they unanimously witnessed or agree all of them to deceive those that followed them Whereas the testimony of the Romish Church being but part of the Catholick and possibly over-ruled with some prevailing Faction cannot convince upon any such common notion of humane reason but must first prove it selfe to be the onely Church and infallible And seeing it is forced to seek such proofe by witnesse of Scripture they plainly run in a Circle from the testimony of their Church to the receiving or proving of Scripture to be the Word of God and back again from the Witnesse of Scripture to prove their Church But Catholick or Vniversal Tradition brings down Scripture to the Conviction of Heathens or Jews that will but use their common sense and reason that discovery which Scripture makes of it selfe by light from the innate qualities and internal Arguments relucent in it comes after and appeares to them onely that having entertained it upon the former Witnes of Catholicke Tradition are versed in it So by this Witnes of Catholick Practice in observing the Lords day Easter day Episcopal Government throughout the Church from the Apostles time we are assured that such passages of Scripture as concern any of these doe shew the Beginnings of the said Practices and the Church of England as it received at first and ever since observed the fore-mentioned particulars so it commands in generall due respect and adhaesion to that sense of Scripture which comes down by such universall consent III. Whereas the condition of the Church according to severall respects admits the distinction of Visible and Invisible the Romanists beare themselves too much upon the one extreme and the Sectaries upon the Other the first will have such a visible flourishing condition of it as is inconsistent with that state which the Church of Christ has and may fall into and prejudiciall as by them pretended to all just Reformation and profession of Truth which more neerly concerns the life and soul of the Church and the more invisible perfection of the members thereof And therefore they please themselves with the outward garb and face of their Church and will have it tryed by the conspicuous Eminency of it as Tr. 1 c. 12. rather than by truth and purity of doctrine Sectaries on the other extreme bear themselves too much upon the Invisible condition of the Church which stands in those inward qualifications of true faith and sanctification requisite to make a true and lively member of Christs mystical Body so that in the pursuit thereof and in pretence of gathering Churches consisting of such members onely they dissipate the visible Church of Christ and dissolve the Government he has setled in it But every true English Protestant acknowledges the Church of Christ is a visible society of Believers or of Professors of the Christian Faith of whom some are effectually called true and lively members but that is invisible others not yet advanced beyond the externall calling or profession a society I say of such Professors under such a Regiment or Government left by Christ and his Apostles and left to this purpose to keep all in unity and to advance those that are admitted in the visible Church to the meanes of Salvation unto a reall and effectuall participation of Grace and Union with Christ as lively Members of his body Eph. c. 4. 11 12 13. 16. And therefore all Christians are bound to yeeld obedience to the lawfull Pastors and Governors of that Visible Church whereof they are Members All this we professe in that Article of our Creed touching the Church for albeit that invisible condition of true Faith and Sanctity be the highest concernment and qualification of a Member of Christs Church and the attaining to that condition be the hope and aime of every good Christian in the Visible Church and therefore the chiefest thing in the profession of that Article viz. a Communion of such true Believers Saints and Members of Christ yet because the administrations of the visible Church tend necessarily unto that end and he that cuts himself off from the communion of the visible Church bereaves himself necessarily of the means to be advanced to that invisible condition therefore he that professeth this Article sayes he believes Christ alwayes has his visible Church which may be found in which such Meanes and Administrations may be had and that he yields obedience to the Pastors and Governors set in it to that end and purpose IV. As the Romanists pretend to an infallible assistance of Gods Spirit bound to St. Peters Chair so have Sectaries their confidence of the speciall guidance of the same Spirit And if we set the vanity of the one against the other we may find as much semblance of Reason from those places of Scripture which Sectaries alledge for every true Believer so inspired and directed as from those places the Romanists alledge for the Papal Infallibility of which Tr. 1. c. 27. Both these pretences are the very bane of the Unity of the Church Romish Infallibility rendring that Church incorrigible and setting it beyond all bounds of accord with other Christians that desiring Reformation will not be satisfied or put off with that pretended priviledge and the pretence of Sectaries rendring Pastors and Teachers in the Church uselesse or at least weakning the obedience due to them puts it into the power of every one that will fancy himselfe a true Believer and guided by such assistance to be a Reformer and to break the Church in pieces In the Church of England no such pretence either of Infallibility in the Governours or of Private Judgment in any against their Governours but such Authority of Governours and Pastors lawfully constituted as is beyond Appeal save to a Generall Council sitting and competent to determine and define in all Causes and to stop the mouth of the gainsayer and bind
onely in matters of Discipline but Doctrine also as that of Arles for rebaptizing them which came from Hereticks denying the Trinity can. 8. The Melivetan Council determined against the Pelagean Heresie The third Council of Toledo gathered for extinguishing the Reliques of that Heresie which had long infected the Gothick Nation and hindered the meeting and benefit of such Councils as King Riccared who called that nationall Synod complaines in his speech to the Bishops then assembled Againe these Councils were gathered and held and did conclude independently on Rome or without acknowledgement of any such Jurisdiction as was after challenged by the Bishop of Rome Faire respect indeed was had to that Bishop in a fraternall way of Communion and sometimes of communicating to him what they had done and concluded as that first Council of Arles Fratri Sylvestro and charitativè significamus In the third Council of Carthage Can. 47. for reading nothing in the Church but Canonicall Scripture it is added Hoc innotescat fratri con-sacerdoti Bonifacio I suppose they mean Boniface Bishop of Rome vel aliis earum partium Episcopis to the end this Canon might be received and practised in those parts But presently after in the fourth Council in which S. Augustine was when the Liberty of their Church seemed to be infringed through a kinde of Jurisdiction challenged by the same Boniface in the point of Appeals they utterly rejected his Plea which he made by the generall Council of Nice but could not prove it So he that looks into the severall Councils of Toledo will finde no signification of a dependance on Rome but great acknowledgement of the religious care of their severall Kings by whose permission they assembled The Church of England therefore being such a Nationall Church and having like power might lawfully reform it self without asking the Bishop of Rome any leave or without staying for a free generall Councill for albeit such a Councill was in agitation yet could not be expected either a generall one because of the Division of the East or Westerne Churches or a free one because of the Popes exorbitant power as Tr. 1. cap. 4. And as it might so it did justly reforme casting off in the first place that Papall usurpation which hindered all Reformation but desining nothing against the definitions of known and approved Generall Councils within the compasse of which time Cardinall Perroun thinks it reasonable the triall of a Church be restreined as Tr. 1. c. ult unlesse some will quarrel at something of Discipline not retained in our church according to the ancient constitutions which being a matter of prudentiall Provision admits variation according to the Exigence of the Times Also it is cleare that Nationall Synods have not held themselves alwayes bound to all things determined formerly in that kinde but have put the receptions of such Canons to the vote as we see in the beginning of the first of Toledo Statuta Concilii Niceni The Statutes of the Council of Nice about Ordinations before not used among them are voted there to be observed Also we finde they frequently make relaxation of former rigour as in the injunctions of penance Lastly it is evident there are many constitutions of this kinde not reteined or observed by the Church of Rome Such as concern the exercise of publique Penance such as forbid the translating of a Bishop from City to City and Ordinations without a Title things determined in generall Councils Of this as to the point of single life of Clergy men T. 2 c. 1. of the whole point of the warrantableness of our Reformation Tr. 2. c. 2. §. VI Answer to the Romish Plea Upon these Grounds it is easie to answer what they object or pretend against us which that it may have the better impression upon the unwary they represent the Church of England before Reformation wholly Romish professing their Doctrine ever since the receiving of the Faith in this Land under Gregory the first Bishop of Rome acknowledging that jurisdiction and accordingly yeilding Obedience to that See yea and owing it as Duty upon the conversion of this Land From these premises their Inference is and they think it will take with the unwary That the Church of England by her Reformation has cast off the Faith received and so fallen into Heresie and by denying subjection to that See has incurred the guilt of Schisme But as there is some truth apparent in the Premises so as much Falshood supposed and taken for granted which renders the Inferences inconsequent and invalid First it is a Truth that the Nationall Church of England before the Reformation was generally Romish both for Doctrine professed in it and for Obedience yielded to the Bishop of Rome but then the Inference they make therefore the Protestant Church of England is a New Church or Hereticall is invalid because it rests upon this untruth supposed and taken by them for granted viz. that the Romish Church was alwaies such teaching such Doctrine and that the profession of such Doctrine makes a Church to be Catholique and the denyall of it renders it Hereticall all which they must prove to make good that Inference where as it is evident that the Catholique Christian Faith once delivered Jude 5. Christ alwaies professed in all ages and into which they and we baptise makes a Christian Church and the holding that Faith undefiled and free from Errours and Corruptions in Belief and Worship makes a pure and Orthodox Church So did the ancient Church of Rome hold the Faith so does the reformed Church of England hold and professe it freed from the mixture of Errour which had crept into the later Romish Church to the infecting of the English so that this National Church is so farre from being Hereticall by ceasing to be Romish that it is therefore the more pure and Orthodox Upon the like supposals false and impertinent they give pretence plausible to the unwary for that demand Shew such a Protestant Church in England before the Reformation as if every Nationall Church did alwaies teach the same Doctrine without mixture of such Errour generally prevailing or as if it were reasonably required of us to shew the Church of England alwaies Protestant i.e. protesting against Errors whereas the Errours were not alwaies nor at first known or to shew a Reformed Church before the Reformation made For though Truth be alwaies before Errour yet Errour is before Reformation which protests against it and casts it out So the English Church as corrupted with Romish Errours must needs be so before it could be Protestant or Reformed but the Catholick Truths it alwaies held made it a Christian Church even under that mixture of Errours so when by Reformation it had cast them off it remained the same Christian Church but a more pure and sound one holding still the same Catholick Truths without that mixture of Errour like as the ancient Christian Church did before Popery
in Civil but Ecclesiastical things did justly vindicate their Crowns to the power and dignity due unto them and their Churches to the Liberty and Independency which as abovesaid belongs to every National Church having within it the whole Subordination of Ecclesiastical Government To conclude Seeing by Reformation we cast out as we had just cause Error and Corruptions crept in upon the Christian Faith and Worship and retained what ever was Catholick we cannot be accused of Heresie Seeing also by the same Reformation we cast off the yoak of an usurped Jurisdiction and vindicated this National Church to the just Liberty we cannot incur the guilt of Schisme for that breach of Communion which followed either upon our ceasing to hold and practice with them in the aforesaid corruptions or upon our denying farther obedience to that usurped Authority cannot be imputed to us who had just cause for doing it and used just Authority in the doing But if that breach of communion which followed be Schisme the guilt of it rests upon the Church of Rome in generall and on all English Romanists in speciall according to the severall consideration of Schisme above 3. as it falls between two National Churches or between any National Church and the Members thereof When between two National Churches that Church stands guilty which gives the cause and peremptorily prosecutes it So the Church of Rome did by imposing under pretence of Infallibility and therefore incorrigible her own doctrines pronouncing all those to be Heretiques that did not receive them and by usurping Universal Jurisdiction concluding them Schismatiques that did not obey But the guilt of Schisme lyes upon all English Romanists holding to that Church as upon Members dividing themselves from the body and communion of their National Church and this concerns not onely those who have revolted from this Church to the Romish but such as alwayes professed themselves to be of that Church it falls upon these not for desertion or separation but for Recusancie or their fefusing the communion of their National Church and adhering to a forreign Jurisdiction which is contrary to the way and order which the ancient Church took for preserving Unity and excluding Schisme by no means suffering such disobedience and division of the Members of any National Church where that Church did not divide it self from the Catholick or give cause as the Church of Rome has done §. VIII Second case as to those that have divided from this Chur Now to the consideration of the Case as it stands between the true Reformed Church of England and Those who of what perswasion soever have divided from the communion of it By that which has been said it is evident the Reformation made by this National Church was most just and regular taking for the Rule Gods Word with the consent and practice of the Ancient Church and thereupon rejecting no more than was necessary and retaining what wns usefull shewing therein a due zeal of Truth together with Christian Prudence and Charity to the taking away just cause of Complaint from all distempered Zelots and giving fair occasion of conviction and allurement to those of the Romish perswasion from whom we differ when they shall duly consider there was no more Difference made than needs must Whereas others who have endeavoured Reformation out of a misguided zeal taking for their Rule an opposition to the Church of Rome rather than a conformity to Gods Word and the Consent of Primitive Times have cast out for Popery many things Episcopal Government Set Forms of Liturgy Kneeling at the Communion and the like which were most undenyably before Popery was hatched in the world Now these being cast out upon that score by Heady Reformers who call themselves Protestants Protestors indeed against many Truths the Papist takes them up and thanks such Reformers for yeelding such Truth to be Popery and so he remains more confirmed in his way and hath more cause of offence at Reformed Protestants were they indeed to be measured by such irregular proceedings The Romanists know this well enough and are sensible of the difference between the Reformation or Establishment of the Church of England and all other pretensions and therefore have made it alwayes their main design to undermine this Protestant Church so wel established and in these dayes the Emissaries of Rome have been very active to help forward a confusion joyning themselves if there be truth in that which so many have reported on their knowledge to Sects of severall Perswasions for the pulling down what was and advancing their pretended Reformations Not that the Romanist approves them but because he knows that if the Church of England established on such sure grounds can by any means be subverted the other unbottom'd Reformations will fall of themselves or stand at no stay to the shame of the Religion they professe and so make fair way for the Romish Religion to come in through their breaches or over their ruines and find more generall entertainment It is the Tempters Policy and indeed his Master-piece when he must act an Angel of Light and must make his advantage of those that are come to some sense of Religion or at least to a conceit they are religiously disposed to lead them on by false Lights and make them over-act their parts by a mis-guided zeal to a quarrelling with their Governours and slighting all former Reformations under pretence of Purity and Reformation til in pursuit of that purity and seeking out a more Reformed Assembly or purer Church they run themselves clean out of the Church and yet carry it with them Whither they are run that have left us let them look to it It is our work now to shew and I wish they would sadly consider it what they have incurred by leaving us no lesse than the guilt of Schisme which lies heavily on as many as have of what perswasion or Sect soever wilfully divided themselves from the communion of the Church of England Whether they doe this as above premised by a bare Separation or by adding Violence and Sacriledge to it in pulling down and as much as lies in their power destroying what was established that they may set up their owne forme and way of Government and publick Worship I said divide themselves wilfully to lessen the guilt of those that follow the Schisme in the simplicity of their hearts deceived with the faire pretences of Religion and Purity which they could not at first see through but if they will not use their eyes and carefully look into their way if they will not use the best meanes they can for discovering the obliquity and danger of that way and so returne from it they lye under the same guilt with those they follow and will with them fall into the ditch Also we must note here the difference of the Case between us and them from that with the Church of Rome which will at first sight shew the impertinencie of the
and pretences and in such general words to have still a new Reformation undertaken and to level or pul down not onely what the former had built but what they had left standing of that which was before The first pretenders to Reformation would cast off Bishops their lawfull Pastors and Superiours invade their power of Ordination and Government have their Revenues with those of Deans and Chapters alienated Now are there risen up men that would make it a part of their Reformation to cast off the Ministry of Presbyters too laying open the Office of Teaching to all gifted men also to take away their Tithes and maintenance putting them to live upon benevolence if any will have them for their Teachers And as the first had no consideration of the Cathedral Churches no more have these of the Parochial but as if all other Christians were Infidels or Heathens they will gather Churches anew the ready way to dissipate the Church of Christ and bring in Confusion But furthermore as the first Reformers of these dayes would have no respect to the Ancient practice of the Catholike Church so have these as little regard and with farre greater reason to the pattern of the other Reformation the Scottish Kirk Lastly As They first cast out Set-forms and the Publick prayers of this Church so Those that came after have cast out their Directory will not be bound up by their Rules and Order but as one Error begets another and is boundless in its progress so here from despising the Set-forms of the Church they proceed to an undervaluing the Lords Prayer as below them and some to advance themselves above Prayer it selfe as needlesse to them in that height of perfection they conceive themselves to have attained and this is the chiefe aime of Satans device to bring men by a misguided pursuit of purity and holinesse to such a pitch of spiritual pride and self-conceit as if they had already apprehended which S. Paul would not take to himself Phil. 3. 13. Nor is it sufficient to say We are not so If you are not gone so far yet like Principles and Pretences which you went on against the Government and Lyturgie of this Church would carry you so far for what certain bounds are left to stay any when once ye have pull'd up those that the above mentioned Rules fixed This being done in that Covenanting pretended Reformation the way is laid open to others more bold and heady to run on farther But let me argue it a little with you you that pretend to more regularity and order in the Classical or Congregational way and make shew of a more quiet spirit and temper and challenge you a little as our Saviour did the Scribes and Pharisees roundly Mat. 23. for building and garnishing the Sepulchres of the Prophets and yet persecuting Him and those that followed Him notwithstanding his Office and doctrine agreed with that of the Old Prophet Let me therefore ask you have ye not the book of Martyrs in your houses and set some price on it Doe ye not there read of the ancient Bishops of the Primitive Church suffering Martyrdom for the truth of Christ And doe not ye applaud them abhorring the Cruelty of their Persecutors and saying If we had been in their dayes we would not have been partakers in that blood Doe ye not also there read of Cranmer Ridly Latimer with other Bishops and many of the Clergy of this Land suffering the flames for that truth which they by a just Reformation had reestablished in this Church Doe you not applaud and praise them when you read their Acts and sufferings abhorring the cruelty of their Persecutors and saying If we had been in their dayes we would not c. Thus you build their sepulchres garnish and adorne their Monuments or Memories and now examine whether you have not done the like to those that followed them in the same Office which they bore in the same Doctrine which they taught in the same reformed Worship which they restored held and Sealed with their blood see if ye have not done more then they which slew those Martyrs for ye have not only spoiled their Persons of all their means and livelihood but also taken away the maintenance from the Office and as much as in you the Office from the Church a double Sacriledge which the Romanists that killed those Martyrs would abhor to be guilty of I speake this not to the reproach of any but to the conviction of all whom it may concern that they may fear the Woe our Sav●our there denounces in the like case That all should be required of that Generation It is just with God when After-generations will not take warning by the former but doe the like to bring upon them the greater punishment and make them bear what the former had deserved And examine I beseech you how far ye have consented to or approved of the shedding their blood the spoiling their persons the sequestring their estates who have suffered in these dayes and yet held and taught the same Religion and Doctrine with those former Martyrs how farre ye have had an hand in or consented to that horrid Sacriledge and devastation of Church-meanes committed in these dayes conclude your selves so far chargeable with the guilt of that former Cruelty and wrong done to the Martyred Bishops and Clergy in Queen Maryes dayes and of that first Sacriledge committed in her Fathers dayes and that ye must answer for it by our Saviours reckoning Mat. 23. 35. so much the deeper because ye have not taken warning by the former but done the like and added to the guilt of Blood and Sacriledge which lay before upon this Land not onely by your persecuting of Them against whom ye had no other accusation than what the Papists had against those Martyrs their faithfull and constant holding to the established reformation of the Church of England but also by your seizing of Church-meanes and abolishing the Office of the chief Governours of the Church a double Sacriledge as I said which neither Romanists nor Antient Schismaticks would dare to commit It is worthy our nothing how it pleased God to shew his judgement upon Schism and Sacriledge in the beginnings of his Church both Jewish and Christian to the end that his people might ever after feare to doe the like We see Numb. 16 who they were that rose up against Moses and Aaron saying Ye take too much upon you ye Sons of Levi seeing all the Congregation are holy every one of them the very saying of these Times and it is plain what they committed in so saying and doing Schism in departing from their lawfull Governours and sacriledge in breaking in upon or invading the priests Office and the judgement shewn upon them is notorious a Fire broke out upon many of them and a Schism or rent made in the Earth swallowed up the rest So in the beginning of the Christian Church we find
prevailed as Tr. 1. c. 1. Secondly It is a Truth that the Saxons or English whatever preparation they had to it by the Vicinity and Acquaintance of the British Christians did indeed receive the Christian Faith from Rome through the godly care of Gregory the first then Bishop and the Ministry of Austin and others whom he sent to preach it here But then the untruth which they suppose and usually impose upon the unwary is palpable viz. That the Doctrine of the Church of Rome as to Faith and Worship is the same it was in Gregorie's time and that we by Reformation have cast off the Faith we received For first as to the maine and fundamentall Faith that makes a man or Church Christian no question but Austin and those that were sent preached that they baptized into which is the very same that we do still Then as for the matters of Faith and Worship which they and we differ in the Novelty is clear neither can they demonstrate that any point we cast off was a doctrine of Faith in S. Gregory's time Some things I confesse of misbelief and practise were then crept in and gathering strength but it is observable that in all their allegations of Fathers for the points we differ in their owne Gregory comes rarely in indeed that Purgatory was his opinion they have expresse proof not that it was an article of Faith in that Church On the contrary it is plaine that Communion in both kindes was the doctrine and practise of the Church in his time as it had been alwaies before that Image-worship is declared against in his answer to the Bishop of Marsellis the Title also and Jurisdiction of Vniversall Bishop which immediately concernes the Cause in hand is declared against in his contestation with John of Constantinople who affected it In a word had the Church of Rome continued the same for Faith and Worship as it was in Gregory's time and the Bishop of Rome taken no more to himself than the said Gregory did certainly it would not have come to a division neither would there have been cause for it §. VII Deniall of Obedience to Papall jurisdiction makes not Schismaticall Thirdly it is a Truth that the English Church still generally taken before Reformation acknowledged the Jurisdiction of that See but the Inference they make therefore it is Schismaticall in casting off or denying to yeild obedience thereunto is invalid for it supposes this untruth that we owed it of duty upon special relation viz. our conversion or receiving the Faith by the Ministers of that See To answer I. It seemes the Bishop of Rome makes his claim to England upon a double Title One of Vniversall Pastorship which extends to all Churches of what Plantation soever the Other of Conversion or Plantation which reaches to England and some other Nations and it seemes when these Titles are divided the first prevailes and swallowes up the other and so brings under his Jurisdiction all the Churches which other Apostles besides Peter and their Successors planted Whereupon it followes that the other Apostles shall not leave the like Title of Jurisdiction to those which succeeded them in the Churches they planted unlesse dependantly on Rome also that the other Apostles laboured dependently on Peter and as his Ministers and Commissioners plaated Churches for him to rule over as supreme general Pastor when as it is evident they were sent immediately by Christ with equall commission to plant Churches in all the world God teach all Nations Mat. 28. and As my Father sent me so I send you John 20. Therefore Peter and Paul when they made that agreement Gal. 2. departed to the work upon equal termes To establish this first and transcendent Title of Universal Jurisdiction they are bound to make good these several untruths That it was so with Peter in respect of the other Apostles That it is so with the Successors of Peter in respect of Those which succeeded the other Apostles in the Churches by them planted That the Power and Priviledge pretended to be in Peter was derived upon his Successors Lastly that it is derived onely upon the Bishops of Rome not of Antioch or elsewhere All these they are bound to make good yea and seeing all their Romish faith resting upon the pretended Priviledges of that Church is founded upon these false Supposals they are bound to make all good by apparent Scripture for they grant that the prime points of Faith necessary for all to believe as this is according to their doctrine are clearly conteined in Scripture But to shew this point of the Priviledges of that Church Infallibility and Vniversall Jurisdiction so conteined is impossible for them to do for when in this vast Controversie they leave nothing untoucht in Scripture or Fathers which may be drawn to make any seeming appearance for such priviledges they doe but give us words nothing of force to prove the thing indeed Some passages to this purpose in Tr. 1. c. 27. and in cap. 28. 30. II. As to his second Title from Plantation of the Church here We doe not find that the Converting of any Nation to the Faith gave a Title of Jurisdiction to that Church from whence that Nation received the Faith for we doe not see it was held for any Rule in the distribution of Provinces and the limiting or extending the bounds of Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction We doe not find that the ancient Councils which provided therein had any respect to such Title but to the constitution of the Empire rather and the Provinces thereof and that the alteration which has been anywhere since made in the bounds of National Jurisdiction followed the division of Kingdomes into which the Empire was broken which appears in the severall Councils of Toledo above mentioned under their severall Kings without dependance on Rome And if we look into the Saxon Church and Councils gathered and published by the industry of Sir Hen Spelman it will appear that all the Application made unto or intercourse had with Rome did not speak a due subjection but at most a voluntary adhaesion not acknowledgment of that Jurisdiction but of their fair respect such as any Church ought to have to that Church from which it received the faith so long as that Church continues safely in the faith it propagated and so in a condition of giving advise and direction to and of receiving due respect and complyance from those among whom it planted the faith But as Errors prevailed in that Church of Rome so in this and among the rest that usurped Jurisdiction Pope Hildebrand or Gregory the 7. about 400. years after Gregory the first did lay on that yoak and began to bring the necks of Kings and Princes under it too and still by their power does the Bishop of Rome hold his jurisdiction over the Churches within their Dominions as Spain France c. But such Princes as came to understand their owne right not onely
but derived from the Ancient Church and used by it to good purpose before Popery crept in Nor is it a good Rule of Reformation to cast out whatever has been abused by Popery we need not do it to the very same individual things which have been so abused excepting Images as the Brazen Serpent that had been objectively used to Superstition for the same individuall Churches stand which I suppose they hold were abused in time of Popery much lesse are we bound to abolish all Rites and Ceremonies which have been abused onely in specie in their kind the individuall act or performance of them under that abuse being transient and not remaining But the Rule of our Reformation was still according to Christian prudence charity not making moe differences than must needs therefore retaining the use of that which Antiquity with good reason practised but without the after-abuse looking not onely at ancient Practise but the Apostles Precept according to which the forementioned practises tend to order decency and as far as Ceremonies are capable of it to edification Thus much the Church has sufficiently declared by her Doctrine by hundreds of books written upon that argument that she enjoyns these Rites and Ceremonies cleared from all superstitious abuse either of yeilding worship to any undue ob●ect or of affixing any sacramentall Efficacy to any of them or of giving them any spirituall Vertue either to better the duty to wch they are joyned professing the duty is good without thē though not so orderly and reverently performed or to satisfie by such performances or that she has any other superstitious respect in the enjoyning of them but regard onely to the aforesaid precept for order and decency which easily appeares in the more solemn and reverent performance of the duty with these Rites than without them and for edification according to the nature of a Ceremony by its signification minding us of some duty To this purpose Treat. 2. c. 7. num 7. of Ceremonies significant Peter Martyr said well in his Comment on that 14. chap. to the Corinths Ceremonies are more commendable if they do admonish us Instar concionum de aliquo officio like Sermons of some duty As for example that women should be covered in the Congregation was not onely for decency but signified and minded them of Duty viz. Subjection as the Apostle shewes 1 Cor. 11. The Ceremony of the Holy Kisse used in their meetings and enjoyned by the Apostle several times minded them of that Charity which should be among Christians and testified they had it then for each other So the putting off the Old man so oft mentioned in the Apostle was the duty and it was represented in Baptism by their putting of Old clothes and putting on New Such signification has the White Vesture minding both the People of the holy duties they come to him that wears it of the holinesse required of them that minister in holy Duties Standing up at the Creed is for a more significant profession of the Christian Faith that they acknowledge and receive it and will by the help of God stand to it and defend it The like signification is in standing up at the reading of the Gospel The Ring in Marriage added onely as a visible Symbol of that Union and Conjunction and for remembrance thereof is it so carefully kept and worn ever after What the Crosse in Baptism signifies and wherefore it is used is there and then expressed when it is used in token that the party baptized shall not be ashamed of the Crosse of Christ c. The Ancient Christians used to make the sign of the Cross upon occasion in the sight of the Heathen to witness or speak the profession they were of and I doe not doubt the truth of those Ancient Records that tell us how God was pleased sometimes for the conviction of the Heathen and the approving of the Christian profession to work a miracle at the making that Sign and what marvel when for the same purpose he wrought miraculously at the falling of Peters shaddow upon the sick and at the touch of handkerchiefes brought from Pauls body Act. 5. 15. 19. 12. He that purposely uses the sign of the Crosse to work supernaturall effects does it without warrant Superstitiously So he that affixes any Sacramentall vertue or spirituall efficacy to it in baptism The Church of England has no such respect but only uses it as a bare Ceremony for remembrance and testification of that which indeed is every Christian mans duty viz Not to be ashamed of the Crosse of Christ but to sight manfu●…y under his banner c. And truly considering what a pass Christianity is at among us how the very principles thereof are so openly overthrown by Sacriledge Injustice Atheism that they are likely if men go on to be forgotten in the next age that there may now seem to be some Cause to have the Crosse of Christ imprinted with fire as they say the Ethi●pick Christians doe upon the fore-heads of the Children that they may remember so oft at least as they look in the Glasse that they are Christians and what they promised in baptism Kneeling at the Communion can be no compliance with Popery in the acknowledging of Transubstantiation or Adoration of the Host for our Church has sufficiently declared against the doctrine of Transubstantiation which being taken away that Adoration falls Nor yet is their Kneeling in the Romish Church the Test and acknowledgment of Transubstantiation or of that Adoration which they think due to the Host but their falling down when it is elevated or lifted up They do Popery too much honour that make the devout and lowly behaviour of kneeling at the Sacrament proper to that Religion and do seem not to understand themselves nor what they are about in that application of the soule to God and the receiving from him the greatest pledges of mercy that think not the most humble and reverent gesture most fit for such a Duty Their sitting mentioned Mark 14. 18. As they sate and did eat c. does not speak directly the gesture they used at receiving the Lords Supper but their falling to or applying themselves to eat the Passeover and whether in the receiving the Sacrament they used the same posture which they cōmonly did at their Feasts a kind of lying or leaning more neer to a prostration of the Body than our sitting is not certain but no question they used such expressions of devotion then as were suitable to the present duty Nor must our application to Christ now be after such a common and familiar way as theirs was when he conversed with them on Earth They did not then so pray to him or asked in his name as they did afterwards Jo 16. 24. They know Christ then after the flesh familiarly conversing with him but now we know him so no more 2 Cor. 5. 16. He