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A39304 The foundation of tythes shaken and the four principal posts (of divine institution, primitive practice, voluntary donations, & positive laws) on which the nameless author of the book, called, The right of tythes asserted and proved, hath set his pretended right to tythes, removed, in a reply to the said book / by Thomas Ellwood. Ellwood, Thomas, 1639-1713. 1678 (1678) Wing E622; ESTC R20505 321,752 532

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to_o the_o true_a ancient_a catholic_n and_o apostolic_a church_n which_o the_o priest_n call_v popery_n conference_n pag._n 149._o and_o as_o this_o doctrine_n spring_v up_o in_o corrupt_a time_n so_o it_o grow_v up_o together_o with_o the_o corruption_n of_o those_o time_n and_o the_o more_o corrupt_a the_o church_n grow_v and_o far_a off_o from_o the_o purity_n and_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n the_o more_o credit_n and_o belief_n this_o doctri●e_n obtain_v and_o be_v the_o more_o general_o receive_v and_o when_o through_o the_o prevalency_n of_o popery_n the_o church_n be_v most_o of_o all_o defile_a and_o pollute_v with_o idolatry_n and_o superstition_n and_o in_o its_o worst_a estate_n than_o be_v this_o doctrine_n in_o great_a repute_n and_o in_o full_a force_n and_o strength_n by_o all_o which_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_n whether_o this_o be_v a_o primitive_a doctrine_n and_o as_o this_o be_v not_o a_o primitive_a doctrine_n so_o neither_o be_v it_o a_o protestant_n 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