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A90792 The plots of Jesuites: (viz. of Robert Parsons an English-man, Adam Contzen a Moguntine, Tho. Campanella a Spaniard, &c.) how to bring England to the Romane religion without tumult. Translated out of the original copies.; Politicorum libri decem. Book 2: 18-19. English. Selections Contzen, Adam, 1571-1635.; Allen, William, 1532-1594.; Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610,; Campanella, Tommaso, 1568-1639.; Sparke, Michael, d. 1653. 1653 (1653) Wing P2603; Thomason E715_19; ESTC R203166 8,916 15

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When all things now seemed ripe the Lutherans were commanded to depart from their Parochial charge and all the Churches bestowed upon the Calvinists Nor durst they complain for if they did they were banished But now betaking themselves to domestick cares they onely sued for a pension immunity from taxes and the like The Calvinists in the mean while laughing to see a matter of such height and consequence brought so low as to make such humble and abject petitions 10. Whereas the young Scholars of the Universitie were Lutherans upon them also they practised with divers arts Stipendiaries such as were maintained at the Elector's charge were put to their choyce whether they would be Calvinists or be expelled And thus an exceeding great alteration came on a sudden without any tumult for the Countrey Preachers followed the motion of the superiour wheels 11. When the Lutherans Professours in the Universitie and Country Preachers refused to yeeld up their dignities the Prince told them He wondred at them seeing he had never taken them into his protection nor given them any new possession of their places For in that Countrey all places and offices become void upon the death of the Prince and the power of bestowing them is in the Successor 12. In Hassia they went on very slowly and by little and little Nor was Calvinisme offered them at once but onely a small part of it And the people come on much more willingly if at the same time they be whistled another way as to Arminianisme or some other Sect which may seem more odious Lastly both sides fell to writing but that party which was most favoured at Court quickly prevailed And the wickednesse of the Lutherans which upon all occasions was made known did much advance the cause of their Adversaries The fourth means which I have seen put in execution heretofore and still kept on foot is this viz. That such as are adverse to the Romane-Catholick Religion be put by their honours dignities and publick offices Nor is this unjust That he who hindreth the welfare of the Common-wealth should be kept from the honors and commodities of it Men guilty of great crimes are thrust from their dignities why then should blasphemers and contemners of Truth be admitted thereto A fifth means Let those particular Tenents which hear ill among the vulgar and at first sight seem absurd be culled out and load laid upon them A sixth Make profit of the quarrels of erring men A seventh Let all secret Conventicles and publick meetings be strictly forbidden Eightly By the severity of Laws and punishments compell the obstinate to duty but let the rigour of laws be slowly drawn out unless where there is danger of a contagion Let those which be most dangerous be taken away the rest by the Authority of the Prince will soon be brought into order Within these few late years a hundred thousands have been converted to the Romane Religion in France in Germany more Not one of the Germane Princes that hath assayed to draw his Subjects on to the Catholick Religion hath ever met with any power resisting his Decrees in that behalf made and executed Onely the Netherlanders broke out into Rebellion but the cause thereof was not Religion alone nor was that pretended but their priviledges and liberty The Dominion of a forain Nation over them a thing abhorred by ingenuous men and the exaction of Tenths stirred up that people to sedition 'T is I confesse the opinion of some Politicians That men are not to be compelled But those which so advise are in an errour and give counsell not against the safety of Religion onely but even of the Common-wealth For by a wholesome Law men may be over-ruled that they shall not doe evill And a good Law will soon reduce those who being of tender years are either not at all or very little tainted with heresie And so if a compulsory Reformation should not doe good upon old men it may make the younger Catholick And I know many Children have been a means of converting their Parents There are many examples of this in Bavaria Stiria Carinthia and the Low-countries Ninethly Care is to be taken for integrity of manners and purity of life For the filthy lives of Romane Clergy-men have made augmented and still do uphold heresies And oftentimes in my disputes with Hereticks I have observed that after very weak arguments they fall to accusing the ill lives of our Clergy-men and speak of things which can neither be denyed nor defended If the Bishops be not able to amend this God will send an avenger who wil take away the wicked men and their wickednesse both together Thus have the Turks got possession of Asia Aegypt Greece c. And Religion will be rooted out of Europe unlesse the manners of men be answerable to the sanctity of their Doctrine CHAP. XIX Other helps there be which wisdome may suggest according to the variety of time and place The Sinenses are taken with the Mathematicks the Japonians with Ethicks the Americans with Ceremonies and Musick All wayes are to be tryed And first Musick Paulus Samos●●enus turned certain Ecclesiasticall hymnes into obscene and enticing rimes Thus the Arians and Pelagians destroyed the faith and discipline of the Church Why then should not an Orthodox Prince make use of that for curing which Impostours have found out to be a means of destroying Secondly Before the banes of Matrimony be publickly asked Let both the man and woman be ordered and compelled to yeeld an account of their faith Upon this occasion they may be instructed in the true Romane Religion and so while they promise to continue in the Church and ever to hold fast the Ancient faith they are by degrees fastened to the truth and cannot but love it Thirdly To this of Marriage other things are to be adjoyned Let no Ceremonies but those of the Catholick Church approach the Font. Let none have the honour to be God-fathers unlesse they have given good testimony of their sincerity in the faith Let no man have the honour of Christian buriall unlesse he hath been a partaker of the Sacraments of the Church Fourthly If it fall out that wandring souls must be leisurely reclaimed and by art and that the Propators of perverse opinions cannot be put from the places they once enjoyed then let an Orthodox Magistrate so bring it about that the instituting presenting confirming and examining of such men be committed to him For so he may chase away every one that is apt to doe mischief Some wrangling Fellows that regard not controversies between Romane-Catholicks and Protestants and study onely to enrich themselves or to comply with the Prince he may safely now and then set over those Churches So shall he be able to abate the rage of heresie and yet not be troubled to remove the unlearned For by that means errour will grow into contempt And because unskilfull men are wont to erre often all constancy in errours will be