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A54155 Judas and the Jews combined against Christ and his followers being a re-joynder to the late nameless reply, called, Tyranny and hypocrisie detected, made against a book, entituled The spirit of Alexander the Coppersmith rebuked, &c. which was an answer to a pamphlet, called, The spirit of the hat, in which truth is cleared from scandals, and the Church of Christ, in her faith, doctrine, and just power and authority in discipline is clearly and fully vindicated against the malicious endeavours of a confederacy of some envious professors and vagabond, apostate Quakers / by ... William Penn ; to which are added several testimonies of persons concern'd. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1673 (1673) Wing P1307; ESTC R23117 100,153 131

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Judas and the Jews Combined against Christ and his Followers BEING A Re-joynder to the late Nameless Reply called Tyranny and Hypocrisie Detected made against a Book entituled The Spirit of Alexander the Copper-Smith Rebuked c. which was an Answer to a Pamphlet called The Spirit of the Hat In which Truth is cleared from Scandals and the Church of Christ in her Faith Doctrine and just Power and Authority in Discipline is clearly and fully vindicated against the malicious Endeavours of a Confederacy of some Envious Professors and Vagabond Apostate Quakers By a Member and Servant of the Church of Christ William Penn. To which are added several Testimonies of Persons concern'd He that Dippeth his Hand with me in the Dish the same shall betray me Mat. 26.23 They went out from us but were not of us 1 Joh. 2.19 In Perils among false Brethren 2 Cor. 11.26 Nevertheless the Foundation of God stands sure 2 Tim. 2.19 Printed in the Year 1673. Judas and the Jews Combined against Christ and his Followers The Introduction THe Just Defence of our so much Reviled Principles and Persons is so ill resented by our Enemies that instead of publickly Recanting their Injustice They repute us more Criminal for so doing then themselves in first Traducing us It is become a sort of Petty Treason to Reprove them they are grown almost incorrigible and to Controle them though in a Lye is hateful so much more do they prefer our Destruction then the Truth it self or their own Reputation Strange That it should be reputed Innocency to Accuse the Guiltless and Guilt to Defend them Are we of God then shall we stand maugre your Assaults if not we shall fall without them What need this Clubbing for Mischief and Caballing to our Ruin The Jews I believe never studied the Crucifying of Christ more vehemently then you vigorously combine and plot the Massacring of our Names Credit and Principles out of the World yea and we have Cause to suspect our Persons too or else this Socinian-Defender of the Hat-Spirit would never have told the World in almost so many words that Blasphemers were to dye by the Law of God and the Quakers are Blasphemers every Man can make the Conclusion that understands what a Conclusion is see pag. 23. It s a Work becomes Darkness for such I call your Nameless Pamphlet in which you have abused Vertuous and Good People by Name not daring to stand the Test of putting your Names to your Abuses against which can be no Fence but Innocency and that remains Unshaken by all your Blustering Epithetes That rests with God who will quell your swelling Rage and speedily Rebuke that great Herricane your Envy has raised to over-set us in our Voyage to Eternal Rest But he that said to Moses in an Hour of Straight Stand still and thou shalt see my Salvation has once and again Comforted us under all these Discouragements Neither are your Combinations Terrible No though Evil Spyes have been your Informers Our greatest Trouble is your own Hardening and we are sorry to see you make so much haste to old Jerusalem's Portion For us we know in whom we have believed And as he that feedeth the Fowls of the Air and clotheth the Lillies of the Field preserves us so that your Buffettings may prove our Tryals but in the End your own Judgments For however you buoy your selves up by the Acceptance you find with some Airy or Prejudiced Spirits God will certainly enter into Judgment with you for your Envious Proceeding who not being able to carry on your own Controversies now list your selves Combatants for a few stragling Apostates not out of Love to true Quakers but Hatred to such as are so What Sense is there in believing you only intend a False Quaker who have writ and abetted those Writings that are against us as Quakers at all But what shall I say It is an Age grown to that Degree of Impiety that there is no Friendship so Strait no Relation so Near no Truth so Evident nor Life so Innocent that some Men are not hardy and wicked enough to Break Violate and Slander to Avenge some supposed Wrong or gratifie an Emulous Spirit Controversie End upon Socinian Principles c. is risen now in one about the Hat on in Prayer What Variety of Shapes do our Adversaries put on to compass their Ends It has been their Practice first to Abuse our Principles and then Rail at our Defences and for Vindicating our Religion to fall foul upon our Persons and those chiefly who are most active in that Service There needs no other Demonstration of this then the Scurrilous Libel now to be considered which with me carries so Mischievous an Aspect that the Parties concerned in these Undertakings do by it proclaim they only want as much Power as Will to send us and our Principles to New-England for a Venture God deliver us from those Magistrates that are as Angry in Government as these Men are in Religion But this is our Joy That these Enemies speak all manner of Evil against us falsly for our Lord and Saviour's sake We maintain our Principles that angers them Miscarriages joy them whatever they pretend And if they can bring some Writers and Preachers out of Request they think they do their Business But we cannot believe that Sober and Judicious Persons will think the worse of us or our Cause for these Malicious Endeavours against it We have only to do with some old Adversaries new Vampt with the Slanderous Stories of some modern Apostates Had not Judas helpt the Jews had been to seek A few Vagabond Quakers are their Intelligencers it s all but a piece of Treachery and Envy And truly 't is fit we should be tryed as well by False Friends as Professed Enemies that in all things we may approve our selves compleat Conquerors through the Invincibe Power and to the alone Honour of that Eternal Truth professed by us And so we enter upon the Libel it self VVE are told in the Title Page of the Libel That it was writ in Defence of a Letter entituled The Spirit of the Hat and against the Deceitful Defective and Railing Answer called The Spirit of Alexander c. Indeed it is wonderful strange that to Reprove an Apostate should be reputed Railing and that this Secretary to this New-founded Cabal should Practi●e it in censuring it He cannot forbear it in his Title Page He begins with ●YRANNY AND HYPOCRISIE DETEC●ED which Four Words he explains to us thus Or a furthe● Discovery of the Tyrannical Government Popish Principles and Vile Practices of the now Leading Quakers In all which if there be no Reviling there is no such thing in the World for these Words reach to the End of all Villany Meek Man that he would be thought who seems to engross Railing into a Company and seems not so Angry at it in us as that we use it Unlicenced of his Cabal for he exerciseth it at such a rate in
am called a Quaker and have writ against Swearing But the Man had a notable Way to come off in which he is singular 1. in case our Words go for Oaths 2ly in that our Appealing to God is an Oath pag. 49. But before his Charge will reach us he must first prove That we ever broke our Words so solemnly given as he pretends and secondly That an Appeal to any thing is a Swearing by that unto which the Appeal is made But the Man being of late Years turned Schollar may be forgiven his Ignorance in Definitions as I heartily do his Malice § 4 In page 44. he tells me that since I love not to be called bare William as the Quakers do but do almost beg my due Title of J. Morse he thinks it be equal that he calls me Mr. Penn. But I could wish he would let us know what to call him who scarcely studies our Destruction more then to conceal himself in compassing it I am contented to be called by my Name but this scornful Libeller besides his Nick-Names often robbs me of halfe of it and that after this very Passage which shews how little heed is to be given to his Words But because he quotes us a book to prove my Ambition I will give the Reader an Account of the matter Some Letters past betwixt J. M. and J on his part he used Thou and Thee conforming himself to that Language to me which I knew he practised not to other People I told him it ill became one as Angry with the Quakers as himself to imitate them in Vsing that Distinction in Language which he otherwise denyed saying I loved Foxes should appear in their own Skins This is the Substance of that Petition this present Adversary represents me to have made for Titles of Honour against which he knows I have writ and blamed me for so doing But what twigs will not such drowning Causes and Defenders catch at to endeavour to save an irrevocable Life § 5 I am now come to what our Adversary takes high Advantage at as if he had enough to blow us all away at one Breath That I should exclaim for Proof of that Passage in the Spirit of the Hat that our Ministry was Vitious and Wanton and that Strumpets were amongst them And that John Pennyman was willing as he publickly declared in Gratious Street to answer my Challenge and that I should come with J. Osgood J. Claypole and William Brand to his House next day for a particular Charge which sayes this Adversary he soon drew up and sent to W. Penn to which he sayes according to my wonted Modesty I replyed That we wondred to see so empty an Account after so great a Charge publickly exhibited that before we met about it we would know if this were all he intended for we would not have our Charge by piece meal Thus saith this Libeller These great Champions evaded c. To all which Reader take this Faithfull Answer A Challenge I made to prove that Infamous Charge and it is as true that J. Pennyman made us believe some such thing as is said to say nothing of his insolent Carriage But this I boldly affirm for I have his Letter by me there was scarce one of these 24 particulars that so much as related to that Infamous Charge upon which my Challenge was grounded To accept my Challenge upon one thing and to offer to answer it with another shows their own Shortness and not our Cowardness What he said to the Purpose was no more then the Charge it self contained and that in a Way of Postscript too He gave us this general Answer he could say this and he could say that but he cared not to medle with such dirty Matters Is this to Answer our Challenge Unjust Men that in your Nameless Pamphlets would Rape us of our Reputation which you have never yet dared to our Faces to Question God can best rejoyn to such Replies and with him we leave both our Cause and Innocency Oh but sayes our Adversary We will come to a Tryal with you before 12. Judges six of each side equally disinterested and in case we fail of such a Number of Persons we are willing in case of Difference about them to refer the Vmprage to the Lord Major of London or any Aldermen or Common-Council Men But as great Knaves as ye would make us I hope ye do not think us such Fools as to accept a Challenge from no Body for such I call an hidden Author Let us see Who he is and What he would be at Can any wise Man think that if such Infirmities were this scurrilous and blindfold Way of using us ought to prevail with us No as we deny far the greatest part of his Stories especially as aggravated so shall we not debase our Christian Authority so far as to be accountable to every Fleering Scoffing Busy-Body Adversary We can Reprove and Exhort Exercise Church Discipline in the Power of Christ Jesus without running to twelve Judges Let these Nameless and Shameless Adversaries first go with the Ungodly Numerous Miscarriages of their own Parties and make them Judges in that Respect We need none to give us Discerning or Judgment Christ has furnisht us already and doth in all Occasions But had these things been all true as represented yet not being Injurious to any of our Adversaries it no wayes concerneth them to be satisfied in our Proceedings nor are we accountable to them by any Law of God or Man upon their Envious Requirings Runnegades Informations are no Proofs Hath any Wronged them they shall be Righted so far as we are able But have any slipt must we therefore divulge it Or are we therefore no Body of Christians Though the Principle be never so perfect Men are no longer so then in Comformity to it The Ancient Christian Churches had the Spirit of Truth yet some Failers attended some of her Members for Want of keeping that Watch they ought must the whole Church of Christ therefore be defiled or condemned and the Eminent and Laborious Servants of God therefore discredited Or should the Apostles have gratified the inquisitive Jews Heathens or Backsliders about any Miscarriages within themselves who were too apt to charge them with far more Vile Practice then any instanced in either of these two Malitious Pamphlets There is no Church or Religious Society whatever that thinks it self obliged to inform every Envious Busy-Body with the Infirmities of any accounted Members which is to publish it in Gath and tell it in Askalem Or the Time Manners and Matter of any of her Censures unless the Facts themselves have been notorious or are Injuriuos to those without Let any of them give me an Instance to the contrary if they can It is Prejudice to Religion it self to divulge Censures beyond the Reach of Offences since it is to divulge the Offence it self We shall therefore give no such Ill President by gratifying the Minds of
for an Answer to the Spirit of Alexander the Copper-Smith After this rate it were far easier to Answer then Accuse I am of Opinion that D. Stillingfleet's Adversaries would look upon their Cause as little injured by any bare reference to ancient Protestant-Writers how excellently soever they acquitted themselves at that time of day Fresh Opposition requires fresh Vindication If I had been Popish the man should have shewn me in what and when he had done have soundly confuted it and not in the midst of his Exclamations against Shifters give such just occasion to say thou art the man I am willing to forgive him at this time But let him be better instructed of his Cabal against the next time and see if he can learn more Truth then to call his Libels Answers whilst they prove themselves Evasions For Truth will work through all odious Names And it is not pinning the Pope upon our Tail and crying Popery Popery that will confute our Principles However till we are better known it may disrepute our Persons But let his base Constructions be considered Our Reproving Men for going out of the decent Order and happy Unity of the Body he calls Requiring Man to set down by our Determination against their Conscience And our Disowning that Breach upon persistance Excommunication from Burying and Marrying They ejected themselves by their Novelties and we are not ashamed to repute such as Publicans and Heathens as will not head the Church of Chris t Mat. 18. Had they Faith they might have kept it to themselves and not have disturbed the Church's Peace with their new Practices indeed Institutions for what was it l●●e then to require our not practising of the Hat off in 〈◊〉 who called pulling it off a Popish Tradition unless men 〈◊〉 not to leave off Popish Traditions so that they and not we were to blame as the Sequel will further prove But I could not pass by this part of the Disingenuity of this Libeller As the Libel so our Discourse will consist of matter of Argument and matter of Fact I shall begin with matter of Argument which shall consist of a further Defence of what is asserted in my Book entituled The Spirit of Alexander the Copper-Smith revived and rebuked The grand Cause of that Dissension which was begun by Jo. Perrot long since happily ended among our selves though renewed divulged and aggravated for the Strengthening of the hands of our common Enemy by certain Perverse Apostates as delivered in the Spirit of the Hat and Defence of the same they must with me grant to be this The Quakers reach that every Man is enlightened with a sufficient Light to Salvation And that all Faith in and Worship to God ought to stand upon the Convictions and in the Leadings thereof yet we are oblieged by their Body unto that which we have no Motion for but rather against and upon our Refusal of such Compliance as they expect we are disowned as not of them So that the Sufficiency Convictions and Leadings of the Light must vail to the Body and not the Body to the Light wherefore not the Light but the Body is become the Quakers Rule Thus Tho. Hiks's Con. Dial. p. 63 64 65. Spir. Hat p. 11 12 13. Defence of it p. 5 6 7. Their Common Aggravations especially of the two latter are these That they are denyed Marrying Burying Trading that they are distracted and so deprived of all both Ecclesiastical and Civil Priviledges The Aggravations we shall consider in their place And first to their Objection or Argument as I have fairly fully and faithfully laid it down 'T is a Truth and as true that we urge both the Universality and Sufficiency of the Light to Salvation and that every Man ought to follow only the Teachings of it about Faith and Worship This is granted on all hands even by the Cabal to credit their present Work and obtain their envious Ends upon us and our Principles Therefore no part of the Question to be controverted The matter in difference strictly lies here that is by resolving these four following Questions the Objection will be fully and plainly answered 1. Whether Christ has given to his Church consisting of faithful Believers and obedient Walkers by the Light or Spirit within such a Sense Tast Relish and Savour of the Nature of Spirits as upon all Occasions the great Enemy of Christ and his People may take under never so seeming innocent Appearances and Transformations to condemn any thing by his Church practised or innovate any thing by the Church never practised but condemned Yea or Nay 2. Whether such a Society Body or Church after due Admonition given to any dissenting or innovating Person may not Lawfully and Christianly deny their Communion in Testimony against that wrong Spirit such Person or Persons may be acted by 3. Whether such Person or Persons may not hold this granted fundamental Principle of the Light c. before recited in the Vnderstanding and yet be acted by a wrong Spirit to Divisions and then plead against the Church under the Pretence of acting by the Light within and consequently whether he can or ought to be judged by any for so doing because every one ought to act according to the Light that is within them And lastly 4. Whether the Body of the Quakers or their present Opposers be that Church Yea or Nay The first is so evident in the Affirmative That to reject it is nothing less then to deny Scripture it self It was the express Promise of Christ to send the Comforter the Spirit of Truth to lead into all Truth which the Apostle John assures us was made good not only to the Disciples but the then Churches of Christ to whom he writ these unanswerable Passages Ye have an Vunction from the Holy One and YE SHALL KNOW ALL THINGS Again But the Anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you and you need not that any Man teach you but as the same Anointing teacheth you of ALL THINGS and is Truth and is no Lye And even as it hath taught you ye shall abide in him By which it is evident that the Church of Christ had an Infallible Spirit by which to discern the Spirit of a Sheep from the Spirit of a Wolf though he came in Sheeps Cloathing This Doctrine Christ himself taught us when he said Beware of False Prophets which come to you in Sheeps Cloathing Again Take heed that no man deceive you For many shall come in my Name saying I am Christ and shall deceive many Whence it follows that there should be False Prophets yet in Sheeps Cloathing which is a deceitful Spirit acting under refined Appearances and to compass its Deceit the better shall palliate it with the Pretence of being led by the Spirit or Light of Christ within So that as Deceitful Spirits were foretold the Way to know them was both promised and enjoyed My Sheep hear my Voice said the great
Shepherd and a Stranger will they not hear Who is this Stranger Not alwayes False Doctrine but a False Spirit covered with True Doctrine They shall come in my Name that is pretending Authority from me and speaking my Words not having my Spirit Christ's Spirit within is his Voice within and 't is that alone gives to discern the Strange Voice let it come with never such True Words Had Christ left his Churches destitute of this Touch-Stone they had been imposed upon by every False Spirit and his Flock devoured by every Wolf in Sheeps Cloathing Sheep know Sheep not only by Sight but Instinct and Wolves too For if Shepherds be of Authority they tell us that if a Wolf be near though out of Sight the Sheep will bleat their Antipathy So do the Sheep of Christ know each other by the Instinct of that Divine Nature they are mutually Partakers of and by it do they discern the Wolf within notwithstanding the Sheep's Cloathing without It was for this end they were to have Salt in themselves the Anointing and Spirit in themselves that they might see relish and discern thereby who were so Salted Anointed and Spirited which in the ground could never be visibly discerned 2ly The second Question I also take in the Affirmative and for which there is both express Scripture and Unanswerable Reason This is seen in the very case of Alexander the Copper-Smith who was denyed and rejected notwithstanding that he made Profession of Christianity And there is cause to believe that the Difference began from his emulous Spirit 's taking Occasion against the Apostles Authority and the Power of the Elders in the Church It was doubtless for something not unlike to this that Paul complained of him to Timothy Alexander the Copper-Smith did me much wrong of whom be thou ware also for he hath greatly withstood our Words Which is the very State and Character of the present Apostates Who pretend with Alexander not to withstand Truth or Christianity but a Lordly Paul Timothy or such like eminent Labourers They pretend to own the Churches but deny some of their Leading Ministers That this was Alexander's Disease the next Verse proves At my first Answer no Man stood with me but all Men forsooke me I pray God it may not be laid to their Charge Who was this People but the Church for of the Heathen it could not be said And what was Alexander's aim besides Ambition I mean to discredit the Apostle that he might gain the Repute and being him down from that Authority God had given him in the Church that he might usurp it to himself What did the Apostle do in the like case shrink No Hear him For though I should boast somewhat more of our Authority which the Lord hath given us for Edification and not for your Destruction I should not be ashamed 2 Cor. 10 8. But no more of this at present That Christ as well gave his Church Power to reject as to try Spirits is not hard to prove That notable Passage Go tell the Church does it to our hand For if in case of private Offence betwixt Brethren the Church is made absolute Judge from whom there is no Appeal in this World how much more in any the least Case that concerns the Nature Being Faith and Worship of the Church her self The Judgment Christ passeth in the matter is sufficient to the Resolution of our Question But if he neglect to hear the Church let him be unto thee as a Heathen and a Publican This I say on the Account of those Apostates who pretend to be the Men they ever were For this Man that works with their Tooles is upon his own Principle as much an Heathen and a Publican as any thing else and tells us to boot that it is dangerous to be of any one Party Therefore not of the true Churche's Party I omit any particular recital of the Apostle Paul's frequent earnest Dehortations from so much as keeping company with perverse Disputers about needless Questions or any that infested the Church and disturbed her Peace and that Practice in which she was at first setled with unprofitable Novelties under what Pretence soever They that can read may find in his Epistles enough to this purpose 'T is true They used no corporal Violence or any civil Power to punish such obstinate Dissenters nor is that Unchristian Practice so much as any part of the Question But first to reprove and admonish and in case of Persistance then to disown and reject which is a part of the Question and a part of the Scripture too And indeed it is most reasonable that as a Civil so a Christian Society should have this Power to preserve it self from the Taints Infections of hurtful Spirits for such tend not to further Knowledge Increase in Holiness or Peace but Strifes and Divisions Animosities and Rents Backbitings and Revenge to the laying waste of God's holy Heritage 3ly The third Question we also accept in the affirmative That men may believe confess and subscribe to the Truth of the Doctrine of the Vniversality Sufficiency and immediate Teachings of the Light as to Faith and Worship and yet be declined from the living Sense Power and Ordering of it so as to be acted by a wrong Spirit to Divisions and notwithstanding plead his Following of the Light within against the Judgment of the Church who reproves him for so doing In short that a man may follow a Wrong Spirit when he thinks he follows the Right and though he ought to follow the Light and Spirit yet is to be judged when he does not act thereby though he may think he doth by such as walk thereby In this the Scriptures of Truth are very positive The Jews owned the Law at what time they rebelled against it and thought they acted according to Scripture when by their Traditions they made it of none Effect There was a certain Generation that were pure in their own Eyes That is believed themselves to be of a Right Spirit whom the holy Ghost reproved for being guided by a Wrong one It was no other State then this that Christ spoke of when he said If therefore the Light that is in thee be Darkness how great is that Darkness Some doubtless acted by Virtue of this Darkness not as Darkness but as Light Was it therefore Light because they thought so When it is manifest that they were against Christ the true Light as you are now Or would the Plea of such an one be so valid against the Body of a Church walking in the true Light as to disengage any from her judgment Or must we therefore conclude that the Light is not a Rule for Men to walk by because some mistake or swarve from it Or that he who calls his dark Imagination a Motion of Light is therefore not to be condemned because it is every Man's Duty to follow the True Light Shall this Position I say
also deny the Practice and Principle and directed People to keep in the Power and Spirit that the Apostle was in who said Men should Pray Vncovered as they did in the Apostles dayes And whereas you liken us to the Church of Rome pag. 25. scoffingly It is no matter to us if the Pope profess God and Christ and put off his Hat when he prayes we shall not deny God nor Christ nor keep on our Hats when we pray because of that And in pag. 29. you make a great Out-Cry because we said in our Declaration We alwayes paid our Taxes and then you say An Honest-hearted Woman paid none We know she was a Whimsical Woman and whither her Whimsies carried her viz. Mary Boreman now called Mary Pennyman And whereas you say they are not afraid to speak evil of Dignities G. F. and his Adherents and such as exalt themselves This is Spight and Malice and much such Stuff is in the 30 th page not worth taking notice of for Dignity is the Power of God which G. F. and we own and they are the Body of Christ that are in it You cannot exalt your selves above it nor the Doctrine of Truth that is in Ancient Friends which the Devil is out of who are made God's Free Men and Women by it and God has given us Power and Spirit to judge such Envious Spirits as this Book comes from and so we have no Unity with such that be out of the Truth neither can we have any hand in publishing their Books and we have a care of them that are printed on the Truth 's Account And whereas you say that none may be permitted to publick Business but these that seek the Good of all that is submit to the Body of G. F. and his Party Here is Envy and Lyes again Where were there ever such Words spoken to submit to the Body of George Fox and his Party may not the least feel the Devilish Spirit in these Words for we would have all to submit to the Body which Christ is the head of and such in Christ's Power and Spirit are fit to do Business in the Church that seek the Good of all and we limit not the Lord but would have all obey him in his true Light in which there is Fellowship And whereas you say some of our Hearers have been weary of our long Preaching Answ It is like they were such as John Pennyman and othe Apostatet who come crying against us in a publick Meeting like the World And as for John Perrot who is gone we do very well know what he was and what Imaginations he went into though he and you lay it falsly upon the Lord and we contradicting him and his Practice in Wearing his Hat and Covering his Head in Prayer was not only from G. F. but the Apostles and if J. Perrot and his Party did speak against G. F. and us because we could not own your keeping on your Hats when you prayed upon his or your pretended Motion but then and now make these Out-cryes against us who have kept our Habitation and you are found in another Spirit then the Apostles were in who said Men should be Vncovered c. And you scoffingly say if J. Perrot he condemned Fox cannot stand Why because Perrot pretended a Revelation to do that which the Apostle forbids but poor People you have manifested your selves and thus you are angry because G. F. and others cannot change like you to your Hat-Spirit And whereas thou speaks to a Declaration and Scurrilous Paper pag. 37. thou shouldst have printed the whole Declaration that People might have seen what it was which Declaration was against Wickedness Uncleanness and Scandalous Books and Papers against us And for John Pennyman I never heard any one say otherwise of him but that it was a mad and wicked Action to which the Devil lead him when he followed his Motions to the Exchange to burn his Books and what did he carry the Bible and the Book of Martyrs there for think you And whereas you make a great Business of Tho. Ibbit of Huntingtonshire Friends were tender to him and though he had a true Prophecy and a Sight of the Fire yet he afterwards confest the exceeded and saw himself And why do you mention G. F. who was above 100. Miles off at that time this doth shew the Venom of your Tongues And you say you have seen the Forgery of G. F. in the Name of the Lord contradicted the Elders but this is like the rest And though J. Pennyman and his Company have been scraping up this many Years these things which they have published in Print where did they ever go to admonish any one or to speak by one or two or three to them according to Christ's Doctine but this are the Doings of False Brethren and as for John Swinton he saw his Errors when he leaned towards you which his condemned Stuff is Meat for such Envious Spirits as you are And in their 43. pag. they jeer and scoff and call a Meeting at Bull and Mouth G. F's Court or Murderously call it King Fox's Court when G. F. never had been at Bull and Mouth Meeting since it was burned down and many Scoffing Words are in the said 43. page scarce worth mentioning And in page 44. you say that J. Pennyman complains and tells the World in his refusing to sign a Certificate of Wm. Sparrorow's he received a Check from G. F. and for advising that others should not subscribe to that which they were ignorant of We never put any to subscribe that which they were not willing to for that was but a civil thing concerning Wm. Sparrow's Certificate and this is many Years since that J. Pennyman has kept this in store in his malicious Heart And in Pag 46. the Paper which R. D. sent up of R. W●i●'s to advise Friends upon his Death-Bed was not contrary to G. F's Doctrine and Practice he was not advised to any thing beyond his Freedom and therefore G. F. is clear of that Aspersion For the Man was advised by me and nothing was imposed upon him but the matter was declared unto him and left to his Freedom to do as he would and he was well satisfied till Mary Boreman and such as she put Doubts and Fears into his Mind and made him question that he had done and Judge himself to have done wrong which indeed it was not so And whereas you say in your Tyranny and Hypocrisie He will not count himself Obliged to keep off his Hat by Vertue of G.F. his Law Answ Here is more of your Wickedness for we do it from an Inward Principle of Truth and from the Power Spirit of God as the Apostle laid down in Reverence to God and thou mayest call it the Apostles Law yet some of the Hat-Men have pretended Motion and some in Opposition in their Wills and there are many Lyes in that page which are not worth mentioning And