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A51740 A letter to a friend, shewing the vanity of this opinion that every mans sense and reason is to guide him in matters of faith. Manby, Peter, d. 1697. 1688 (1688) Wing M386; ESTC R31875 8,647 7

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but that there was no such absolute necessity of Reformation as that Christs Church could not subsist without it He proceeds A Garden is the same before it be weeded and after To be purged doth not give a new Being to the Body The Glory of Christs Church was not extinguished by Superstitious Errors but only eclipsed page 1013. of his Works For the extent of our Separation we have not left the Catholique Church but only the Roman Church saith he Now I pray setting aside the Roman Church name me that Church under the Sun whose Sacraments and Liturgy the Church of England embraces Does she communicate with the Greek Church No that Church is for Mass the Corporal Presence Invocation of Saints Prayers for the Dead c. Does she Communicate with Lutherans Calvinists Anabaptists c. No no Lutherans are for the Corporal Presence the Crucifix over the Altar c. The Calvinists and Anabaptists have no Orders of Priests and Bishops therefore 't is a question whether they have any true Sacraments at all For we as for our parts believe saith Bishop Bramhall Episcopacy to be at least an Apostolical Institution approved by Christ himself in the Revelation Ordained in the infancy of Christianity as a remedy against Schism and we bless God that we have a clear Succession of it page 133. of his works printed at Dublin So that I cannot but wonder at those words of his page 1018. We have not left the Catholique Church but only the Roman Church Good Sir Name that Church in Europe Asia Africa or America whom your Reformers have not left tell us in what City or Province we shall find it Then observe these words ibid. p. 1018. We would admit the Church of Rome to be a Sister if that would content them yea an elder Sister and rather than fail to be a Mother Church to the Saxons or ancient English but we may not allow them the place of a Lady and Mistress And further We believe the Holy Ghost doth lead the Catholique or Universal Church into all Truths which are simply necessary to Salvation and preserves it from all such damnable Errors as are destructive to saving Faith. pag. 1018. The difficulty Sir is to find out this Catholique Church the Provinces or Cities where it dwelt before the Reformation or since if it be not in O Brazeel the Isle of Pines or the New Atlantis And when we have found it out what is the reason the Church of England does not communicate with its Sacraments and Liturgy since the Holy Ghost doth lead it into all Truths which are simply necessary to Salvation and preserves it from all such damnable Errors as are destructive to saving Faith as the Bishop asserts positively ubi supra These are the Questions that you may please to answer at your leisure If there be any such Church out of England what needs any Separation from her Sacraments or Altars where is the danger of communicating with her did the first Reformers under Edward 6. believe themselves when they repeated this Article of their Creed One holy Catholique and Apostolique Church if so why did they attaint all the Christian world of abominable and damnable Idolatry for the space of 800 years and more Farewell SIR Give me leave to add by way of Postscript that if you do not like this Paper I shall desire to know your Reasons and when I know them perhaps I shall not like ' em You allow every man his Judgment of Discretion that is a liberty to think or not think as you do in matters of Religion Stick to that Principle and I see not how you can find fault much less persecute any mans Opinion without contradicting your self But I have worse news than that to tell you the Good People of these Nations never dreamt of a thing call'd a Republick or Free State before the blessed days of Reformation that is until Scripture came to be understood according to every mans Judgment of Discretion FINIS