Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
truth_n ancient_a church_n faith_n 1,854 5 5.2308 4 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A15691 A godly and learned answer, to a lewd and vnlearned pamphlet intituled, A few, plaine and forcible reasons for the Catholike faith, against the religion of the Protestants. By Richard Woodcoke Batchellor of Diuinitie. Woodcoke, Richard. 1608 (1608) STC 25965; ESTC S104839 92,243 124

There are 11 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

also_o agree_v that_o it_o must_v bear_v such_o a_o sense_n as_o may_v stand_v with_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o analogy_n of_o faith_n then_o although_o we_o differ_v about_o the_o proper_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n yet_o differ_v we_o not_o about_o any_o matter_n of_o faith_n as_o you_o do_v about_o original_a sin_n papist_n see_v therefore_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n continue_v visible_a for_o ●uer_v as_o we_o have_v do_v and_o not_o they_o we_o have_v the_o ancient_a father_n for_o patroness_n of_o our_o cause_n they_o be_v destitute_a of_o all_o antiquity_n we_o have_v the_o truth_n in_o many_o point_n according_a to_o their_o own_o confession_n and_o they_o consequent_o falsehood_n we_o have_v the_o scripture_n and_o their_o true_a interpretation_n they_o only_o the_o bare_a name_n and_o private_a erroneous_a exposition_n i_o conclude_v that_o whosoever_o will_v be_v save_v must_v not_o hear_v they_o but_o embrace_v our_o old_a catholic_a &_o apostolic_a faith_n protestant_n the_o person_n of_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n as_o man_n have_v be_v in_o their_o time_n visible_a be_v and_o shall_v be_v to_o the_o world_n end_n they_o have_v be_v also_o general_o to_o some_o of_o their_o fellow_n member_n visible_o in_o their_o time_n as_o member_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n howbeit_o the_o visibility_n of_o church_n establish_v and_o in_o their_o assembly_n worship_v god_n in_o the_o word_n sacrament_n and_o prayer_n they_o have_v often_o want_v as_o in_o the_o egyptian_a captivity_n the_o day_n of_o elias_n the_o captivity_n of_o babylon_n the_o dispersion_n cause_v by_o saul_n persecution_n and_o under_o the_o overspreading_a tyranny_n of_o the_o romish_a antichrist_n drive_v the_o woman_n that_o bring_v forth_o the_o man-child_n into_o 14_o revel_v 12._o 13._o 14_o the_o wilderness_n into_o a_o p●●e_n prepare_v for_o she_o of_o god_n during_o which_o captivity_n of_o the_o church_n in_o several_a time_n either_o heathenish_a idolatry_n as_o in_o egypt_n or_o church_n idolatry_n as_o the_o golden_a calf_n and_o the_o service_n of_o baal_n before_o and_o in_o the_o day_n of_o elias_n or_o carnal_a worship_n as_o among_o the_o jew_n in_o the_o dispersion_n aforesaid_a or_o mere_a atheism_n as_o under_o sanballat_n and_o tobijah_n or_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n under_o the_o show_n of_o pseudochristianitie_n as_o in_o the_o apostasy_n of_o antichrist_n have_v bear_v the_o sway_n in_o the_o world_n as_o the_o only_a religion_n such_o be_v the_o visibility_n of_o your_o romish_a apostafie_a like_o the_o visibility_n of_o jerob●ams_n calf_n of_o baal_n church_n of_o the_o scribe_n and_o pharisy_n and_o in_o pretence_n to_o build_v with_o the_o i●wes_n that_o be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n semblant_n to_o sanballat_n and_o tobijah_n or_o at_o the_o be●●_n to_o eliashab_n their_o friend_n in_o this_o visibility_n you_o have_v set_v forth_o many_o goodly_a pageant_n to_o dazzle_v the_o eye_n of_o all_o those_o in_o who_o ●he_v god_n of_o this_o world_n have_v blind_v their_o eye_n that_o the_o light_n of_o the_o 4._o 2_o cor._n 4._o 3._o 4._o glorious_a gospel_n of_o christ_n shall_v not_o shine_v unto_o they_o as_o the_o state_n of_o pope_n and_o cardinal_n the_o babylonish_n magnificence_n of_o your_o temple_n beset_v with_o sumptuous_a idol_n the_o stage_n play_v of_o your_o mass_n with_o your_o whole_a antichristian_a tyranny_n which_o you_o have_v vaunt_a to_o the_o world_n as_o the_o harlot_n her_o bedeck_a bed_n 17._o prou._n 7._o 15._o 17._o with_o ornament_n carpet_n and_o lay_v of_o egypt_n perfume_v with_o myrrh_n aloe_n and_o cinnamon_n and_o like_v unto_o the_o picture_n of_o 5._o apoc._n 17._o 3._o 4._o 5._o your_o church_n the_o mother_n of_o whoredom_n and_o abomination_n that_o sit_v upon_o a_o scarlet_a colour_a beast_n and_o be_v array_v in_o purple_a and_o scarlet_a and_o guide_v with_o gold_n and_o precious_a stone_n and_o pearl_n and_o have_v a_o cup_n of_o gold_n in_o her_o hand_n full_a of_o abomination_n and_o filthiness_n of_o her_o fornication_n of_o such_o visibility_n we_o give_v you_o leave_v to_o boast_v and_o rejoice_v that_o we_o have_v no_o part_n with_o you_o in_o your_o glory_n lest_o we_o shall_v also_o have_v part_n with_o you_o in_o your_o plague_n and_o albeit_o god_n have_v grant_v more_o visibility_n to_o our_o church_n than_o you_o can_v endure_v with_o patience_n to_o behold_v yet_o make_v we_o not_o out_o of_o such_o visibility_n any_o demonstration_n that_o our_o church_n be_v the_o true_a church_n that_o faith_n that_o worship_n which_o by_o open_a confession_n and_o practice_n be_v visible_a in_o our_o saviour_n christ_n and_o his_o bless_a apostle_n which_o in_o their_o holy_a writing_n inspire_v of_o god_n they_o have_v deliver_v to_o be_v see_v read_v and_o understand_v to_o be_v hold_v and_o observe_v of_o all_o the_o true_a church_n of_o god_n be_v a_o demonstrative_a and_o infallible_a visibility_n which_o wheresoever_o it_o be_v to_o be_v see_v and_o discern_v proove_v and_o convince_v that_o they_o be_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n this_o be_v the_o only_a visibility_n whereby_o the_o true_a church_n be_v to_o be_v discern_v and_o know_v which_o we_o have_v often_o prove_v and_o we_o hope_v be_v manifest_a to_o all_o man_n conscience_n to_o be_v find_v in_o our_o church_n and_o you_o shall_v never_o be_v able_a while_o the_o world_n stand_v to_o make_v any_o sound_a proof_n that_o your_o church_n have_v any_o such_o visibilitie_n but_o manifest_o the_o contrary_a what_o patronage_n the_o ancient_a father_n lend_v unto_o your_o cause_n have_v be_v before_o show_v where_o you_o allege_v any_o thing_n out_o of_o they_o and_o often_o have_v be_v further_o in_o all_o the_o fundamental_a point_n wherein_o you_o ●_o dissent_v from_o we_o and_o from_o the_o truth_n you_o imitate_v some_o rite_n twice_o dead_a and_o bury_v since_o they_o use_v they_o you_o be_v confident_a to_o affirm_v some_o thing_n whereof_o they_o doubt_v you_o take_v up_o their_o error_n for_o principle_n of_o your_o faith_n you_o abuse_v and_o pervert_v their_o word_n and_o phrase_n to_o a_o contrary_a meaning_n and_o in_o these_o only_a as_o touch_v your_o popish_a religion_n you_o follow_v the_o father_n but_o their_o indicious_a testimony_n touch_v the_o fundamental_a point_n of_o doctrine_n as_o original_a sin_n and_o the_o fruit_n thereof_o concupiscence_n free_a will_n instification_n the_o use_n of_o good_a work_n the_o sacrament_n and_o diverse_a other_o point_v you_o will_v not_o see_v or_o else_o you_o pervert_v as_o the_o instable_n do_v the_o scripture_n to_o their_o own_o destruction_n 16._o 2._o pet._n 3._o 16._o compare_v what_o they_o write_v in_o one_o place_n with_o that_o which_o they_o write_v in_o another_o note_v the_o occasion_n mark_v the_o end_n discern_v the_o adversary_n they_o have_v to_o deal_v with_o consider_v the_o strain_n of_o their_o move_v affection_n acknowledge_v their_o trope_n and_o figure_n of_o speech_n you_o shall_v find_v the_o father_n to_o yield_v you_o but_o small_a help_n and_o to_o be_v but_o slender_a patroness_n of_o your_o apostasy_n on_o the_o contrary_a you_o shall_v perceive_v that_o as_o we_o have_v the_o elder_a antiquity_n for_o proof_n whereof_o we_o cite_v the_o record_n of_o scripture_n so_o have_v we_o the_o body_n of_o all_o consequent_a antiquity_n in_o all_o matter_n of_o faith_n touch_v the_o deity_n the_o trinity_n providence_n touch_v christ_n his_o person_n nature_n office_n mediation_n and_o our_o redemption_n by_o he_o touch_v the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o his_o operation_n in_o the_o church_n ●ouching_v the_o catholic_a church_n the_o communion_n of_o saint_n and_o all_o necessary_a part_n thereof_o touch_v remission_n of_o sin_n touch_v the_o resurrection_n and_o eternal_a life_n in_o other_o matter_n if_o some_o where_o we_o vary_v from_o the_o father_n as_o they_o vary_a one_o from_o another_o and_o some_o of_o they_o from_o themselves_o we_o ha●e_v their_o leaf_n i_o have_v before_o show_v you_o what_o difference_n 1._o cont._n julian._n pelag._n lib_n 1._o augustine_n make_v between_o fundamenta_fw-la fides_fw-la &_o alia_fw-la de_fw-la quibus_fw-la doctrissimi_fw-la atque_fw-la optimi_fw-la catholicae_fw-la regulae_fw-la defensores_fw-la salua_fw-la fidei_fw-la compage_fw-la non_fw-la consonant_n between_o the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n and_o other_o point_n whereabout_o the_o learned_a stay_v best_a defender_n of_o the_o catholic_a rule_n do_v not_o agree_v yelw_o ●hout_v impeachment_n to_o the_o frame_n of_o faith_n to_o your_o vain_a pretence_n of_o our_o consent_n in_o any_o point_n of_o your_o popish_a faith_n enough_o have_v be_v say_v before_o as_o for_o the_o scripture_n you_o have_v they_o indeene_n and_o you_o keep_v they_o so_o close_o that_o neither_o yourselves_o will_v search_v they_o as_o you_o ought_v nor_o suffer_v those_o that_o will_v you_o banish_v the_o
elder_a than_o this_o renew_a face_n of_o our_o church_n will_v that_o prove_v any_o advantage_n for_o you_o be_v not_o the_o apostasy_n of_o israel_n elder_a than_o the_o protestation_n of_o elias_n against_o 18._o 1._o king_n 18._o they_o much_o more_o than_o the_o return_n of_o many_o out_o of_o israel_n in_o the_o day_n of_o hezekiah_n be_v not_o the_o pharisaical_a synagogue_n 30._o 2._o chron._n 30._o before_o the_o preach_n of_o christ_n &_o before_o the_o church_n which_o he_o gather_v by_o his_o preach_n boast_v not_o therefore_o of_o what_o stand_v your_o antichristian_a tyranny_n be_v but_o tell_v we_o if_o you_o can_v of_o what_o truth_n your_o religion_n be_v truth_n we_o grant_v you_o be_v most_o ancient_a but_o error_n also_o be_v often_o very_o ancient_a and_o be_v call_v by_o angustine_n vetustissima_fw-la falsit_fw-la as_o most_o ancient_a falsehood_n and_o 166._o epist_n 166._o when_o the_o truth_n after_o a_o long_a time_n of_o suppression_n come_v to_o the_o light_n again_o in_o the_o eye_n of_o they_o that_o judge_v by_o the_o outward_a appearance_n error_n seem_v elder_a than_o the_o truth_n wherefore_o let_v we_o climb_v above_o these_o middle_a antiquity_n which_o may_v be_v common_a both_o to_o truth_n and_o error_n and_o let_v we_o come_v to_o the_o elder_a and_o most_o ancient_a time_n of_o the_o church_n and_o there_o behold_v the_o true_a and_o undisguised_a face_n of_o the_o ancient_a and_o true_a church_n let_v we_o search_v the_o scripture_n which_o only_o contain_v the_o most_o infallible_a description_n of_o the_o true_a church_n if_o you_o shun_v this_o light_n say_v it_o be_v because_o there_o be_v no_o truth_n in_o 21._o joh._n 3._o 19_o 20._o 21._o you_o yea_o because_o your_o work_n be_v evil_a and_o you_o fear_v to_o come_v to_o the_o light_n lest_o it_o shall_v be_v manifest_a that_o you_o walk_v in_o the_o truth_n papist_n secondlie_o this_o be_v to_o make_v your_o curse_a synagogue_n of_o the_o jew_n that_o crucify_v the_o some_o of_o god_n and_o wicked_o cry_v out_o his_o blood_n be_v upon_o we_o and_o our_o child_n for_o more_o glorious_a than_o christ_n church_n for_o which_o he_o shed_v his_o blood_n and_o pray_v so_o inst_z antlie_o to_o his_o father_n for_o as_o they_o now_o be_v in_o many_o part_n of_o the_o world_n so_o can_v they_o show_v where_o they_o have_v remain_v &_o preach_v their_o religion_n for_o all_o these_o 1600_o year_n and_o to_o say_v that_o christ_n church_n be_v inferior_a to_o the_o jewish_a synagogue_n be_v so_o blasphemous_a as_o christian_a ear_n shall_v not_o endure_v to_o hear_v protesant_n do_v christ_n shed_v his_o blood_n to_o make_v his_o church_n glorious_a and_o eminent_a in_o worldly_a prosperity_n like_v to_o the_o strumpet_n of_o rome_n that_o sit_v upon_o many_o water_n and_o have_v rule_v over_o many_o 1._o revel_v 17._o 1._o people_n yea_o over_o king_n and_o prince_n no_o no_o his_o kingdom_n be_v not_o of_o this_o world_n by_o many_o tribulation_n must_v the_o 8._o joh._n 18._o 36._o act._n 14._o 22._o rom._n 8._o 17._o joh._n 16._o 33._o 2._o tim._n 2._o 12._o hebr._n 12._o 8._o church_n of_o christ_n enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n it_o must_v be_v comfort_v to_o his_o suffering_n that_o it_o may_v be_v comfort_v to_o his_o glory_n if_o it_o suffer_v with_o he_o it_o shall_v reign_v with_o he_o in_o the_o world_n it_o shall_v have_v trouble_n but_o in_o he_o only_a peace_n all_o that_o be_v not_o partaker_n of_o chastismens_n be_v bastard_n and_o not_o son_n again_o do_v christ_n by_o his_o instant_a prayer_n to_o his_o father_n request_n that_o his_o church_n may_v tread_v on_o the_o neck_n of_o emrour_n ride_v on_o a_o stately_a s●eed_n and_o king_n to_o hold_v the_o stirrup_n and_o go_v by_o on_o foot_n to_o lead_v the_o pope_n horse_n by_o the_o bridle_n or_o that_o they_o may_v ●●●eample_v patrimony_n large_a seignory_n general_a command_n over_o king_n and_o key_n sar_n yea_o power_n of_o life_n and_o death_n over_o every_o creature_n and_o to_o translate_v kingdom_n and_o to_o turn_v the_o world_n upside-down_a at_o their_o pleasure_n where_o be_v this_o prayer_n contain_v why_o have_v not_o christ_n himself_o nor_o any_o of_o his_o apostle_n the_o benefit_n of_o it_o why_o be_v the_o primitive_a church_n so_o wash_v by_o horrible_a persecution_n christ_n never_o make_v any_o such_o prayer_n he_o pray_v that_o his_o church_n may_v be_v preserve_v not_o altogether_o from_o but_o in_o 15_o john_n 17._o 15_o temptation_n not_o that_o the_o worldly_a power_n may_v not_o annoy_v the_o body_n of_o his_o saint_n but_o that_o their_o soul_n may_v be_v keep_v from_o evil_a not_o that_o they_o may_v have_v their_o heaven_n in_o this_o world_n but_o that_o they_o may_v be_v with_o he_o where_o he_o be_v and_o see_v his_o 24_o verse_n 24_o glory_n again_o be_v christ_n inferior_a to_o the_o jew_n when_o they_o crucify_v he_o or_o stephen_n when_o they_o stone_v he_o to_o death_n or_o james_n when_o herod_n cut_v off_o his_o head_n or_o peter_n when_o he_o bind_v he_o in_o prison_n what_o say_v the_o scripture_n for_o thy_o sake_n 12_o acts._n 7._o 12_o we_o be_v kill_v all_o the_o day_n long_o and_o we_o be_v count_v as_o sheep_n for_o the_o slaughter_n nevertheless_o in_o all_o these_o thing_n we_o be_v more_o than_o 37_o psal_n 44._o 23._o rom._n 8._o 36._o 37_o conqueror_n through_o he_o that_o love_v us._n sure_o by_o romish_a logic_n and_o and_o romish_a divinity_n far_o more_o happy_a and_o glorious_a be_v the_o condition_n of_o pilate_n the_o priest_n and_o accurse_a jew_n that_o cry_v crucify_v he_o crucify_v he_o then_o of_o poor_a christ_n o_o you_o that_o be_v bewitch_v and_o enchant_v by_o these_o 21._o luk._n 23._o 21._o baby_n lonish_v charm_n will_v you_o be_v lead_v by_o such_o guide_n who_o know_v not_o the_o beginning_n of_o christian_a religion_n if_o any_o will_v be_v my_o disciple_n let_v he_o take_v up_o his_o cross_n and_o follow_v i_o will_v you_o 24_o math._n 16._o 24_o think_v that_o such_o can_v guide_v you_o to_o heaven_n who_o god_n be_v the_o world_n who_o glory_n be_v shame_n which_o mind_n earthly_a thing_n with_o they_o no_o outward_a prosperity_n no_o church_n no_o earthly_a kingdom_n no_o church_n no_o scarlet_a colour_a beast_n 19_o phil._n 3._o 19_o no_o triple_a crown_v pope_n no_o hat_v cardinal_n no_o mirred_a bishop_n no_o church_n but_o see_v the_o singular_a boldness_n of_o this_o popish_a proctor_n join_v with_o singular_a folly_n the_o curse_a jew_n can_v bring_v as_o far_o fetch_v antiquicy_a to_o prove_v their_o synagove_n to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n as_o the_o papist_n can_v for_o they_o if_o such_o antiquity_n can_v make_v you_o papist_n why_o may_v it_o not_o as_o well_o make_v you_o jew_n this_o forcible_a reasoner_n prescribe_v 1600_o year_n for_o the_o papacy_n not_o a_o year_n or_o a_o day_n less_o do_v he_o allow_v to_o the_o jewish_a synagogue_n from_o whence_o i_o thus_o reason_n that_o which_o by_o popish_a confession_n belong_v as_o well_o to_o the_o curse_a jew_n as_o to_o the_o papist_n that_o can_v never_o prove_v the_o popish_a synagogne_n to_o be_v the_o catholic_a and_o true_a church_n antiquity_n of_o 1600_o year_n belong_v as_o much_o to_o the_o curse_a jew_n as_o to_o the_o papist_n as_o this_o plain_a reasoner_n confess_v therefore_o antiquity_n of_o 1600_o year_n can_v never_o prove_v the_o popish_a synagogue_n to_o be_v the_o catholic_a and_o true_a church_n papist_n that_o our_o church_n have_v continue_v all_o this_o while_n be_v as_o certain_a for_o to_o omit_v other_o province_n and_o kingdom_n where_o it_o have_v be_v open_o know_v and_o not_o to_o speak_v how_o we_o can_v show_v the_o continual_a succession_n of_o bisop_n in_o diverse_a place_n of_o christendom_n as_o rheimes_n padua_n leigh_n and_o from_o the_o apostle_n time_n to_o these_o our_o day_n we_o can_v here_o in_o our_o country_n prove_v the_o continuance_n of_o our_o religion_n for_o these_o 1600_o year_n even_o from_o the_o time_n of_o saint_n gregory_n the_o great_a pope_n of_o rome_n who_o send_v hither_o saint_n austen_n that_o convert_v we_o englishmen_n from_o paganism_n and_o idolatry_n to_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n as_o our_o own_o history_n teach_v and_o from_o saint_n gregory_n we_o can_v ascend_v by_o the_o current_a stream_n of_o pope_n his_o predecessor_n to_o saint_n peter_n and_o christ_n himself_o for_o that_o it_o be_v our_o catholic_a religion_n which_o be_v then_o bring_v in_o by_o saint_n austen_n no_o doubt_n can_v be_v make_v for_o our_o chronicle_n say_v so_o much_o &_o the_o ruin_n of_o so_o many_o ancient_a abbey_n late_o suppress_v do_v abundant_o testify_v the_o same_o &_o none_o of_o reason_n or_o read_n will_v deny_v it_o
seek_v a_o vision_n of_o the_o prophet_n than_o they_o shall_v find_v that_o by_o the_o just_a judgement_n of_o 6_o ezek._n 7._o ver_fw-la 6_o god_n the_o law_n shall_v perish_v from_o the_o priest_n and_o council_n from_o the_o ancient_n which_o at_o this_o day_n they_o all_o find_v who_o feed_v upon_o the_o lie_a vanity_n of_o popish_a vision_n be_v delude_v by_o the_o paint_a vizard_n of_o the_o church_n which_o you_o have_v put_v upon_o your_o face_n wherefore_o if_o you_o can_v prove_v your_o church_n the_o true_a church_n which_o you_o can_v never_o do_v yet_o shall_v you_o still_o come_v to_o short_a of_o prove_v that_o you_o stand_v so_o much_o in_o need_n of_o that_o your_o church_n can_v err_v and_o therefore_o pray_v to_o saint_n purgatory_n pardon_n etc._n etc._n must_v be_v believe_v because_o your_o church_n teach_v they_o god_n grant_v that_o your_o seduce_a client_n 13._o jere._n 2._o 13._o may_v leave_v these_o break_a pit_n that_o will_v hold_v no_o water_n and_o have_v recourse_n to_o the_o fountain_n of_o live_a water_n the_o holy_a scripture_n thereby_o to_o try_v every_o spirit_n whether_o it_o be_v of_o god_n or_o no_o and_o not_o blind_o believe_v every_o spirit_n that_o say_v 1._o john_n 4._o 1._o it_o be_v of_o god_n yea_o but_o say_v you_o if_o the_o church_n may_v err_v in_o faith_n then_o may_v we_o aswell_o be_v damn_v be_v member_n of_o the_o true_a church_n as_o of_o the_o false_a &_o that_o not_o for_o a_o wicked_a life_n but_o for_o a_o wrong_a faith_n which_o can_v be_v first_o you_o show_v of_o what_o force_n all_o your_o proof_n be_v that_o you_o be_v fain_o so_o shameless_o to_o beg_v that_o without_o any_o proof_n which_o all_o man_n know_v to_o be_v most_o false_a for_o be_v it_o so_o strange_a to_o you_o that_o a_o member_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n may_v be_v damn_v even_o for_o matter_n of_o wrong_a belief_n be_v all_o the_o member_n of_o every_o true_a visible_a churhc_n true_a and_o proper_a member_n of_o the_o mystical_a body_n of_o christ_n know_v you_o not_o that_o saint_n paul_n say_v to_o galathian_o behold_v i_o paul_n say_v unto_o every_o man_n that_o be_v circumcise_v christ_n shall_v profit_v you_o nothing_o you_o be_v abolish_v from_o christ_n whosoever_o be_v justify_v by_o the_o law_n you_o be_v fall_v from_o grace_n and_o yet_o they_o to_o who_o he_o speak_v be_v member_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n therefore_o the_o member_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n may_v be_v damn_v for_o a_o wrong_a belief_n second_o albiet_v the_o true_a visible_a church_n may_v err_v damnable_o as_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n in_o condemn_v christ_n the_o arrian_n in_o deny_v his_o eternal_a godhead_n yet_o the_o true_a catholic_a church_n which_o be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n can_v err_v damnable_o nor_o any_o true_a member_n thereof_o and_o yet_o every_o member_n of_o the_o militant_a church_n may_v err_v but_o not_o damnable_o for_o every_o error_n be_v not_o damnable_a no_o not_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n some_o build_v upon_o the_o foundation_n timber_n hay_n and_o stubble_n etc._n 1_o cor._n 3._o 12._o etc._n etc._n so_o long_o as_o they_o build_v upon_o the_o foundation_n they_o themselves_o shall_v be_v save_v but_o shall_v suffer_v loss_n of_o their_o work_n by_o the_o fiery_a trial_n of_o god_n word_n confess_v therefore_o the_o infirmity_n and_o ignorance_n even_o of_o the_o true_a member_n of_o the_o true_a catholic_a church_n in_o this_o flesh_n which_o be_v such_o no_o one_o of_o they_o can_v have_v immunity_n from_o error_n yet_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v that_o any_o true_a member_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n can_v be_v damn_v and_o yet_o he_o may_v believe_v amiss_o in_o some_o point_n of_o faith_n god_n open_a the_o eye_n of_o the_o blind_a that_o they_o may_v discern_v your_o dangerous_a and_o damnable_a sleight_n you_o will_v have_v all_o your_o disciple_n hold_v themselves_o content_v only_o with_o the_o coliars_n faith_n &_o to_o believe_v as_o the_o church_n believe_v although_o they_o know_v not_o what_o the_o church_n believe_v to_o the_o intent_n you_o may_v bewitch_v they_o this_o be_v your_o sorcery_n you_o tell_v they_o the_o church_n can_v err_v mean_v your_o romish_a church_n &_o therefore_o they_o may_v secur_o believe_v whatsoever_o you_o bid_v they_o &_o so_o do_v shall_v undoubted_o be_v save_v a_o compendious_a religion_n promise_v unto_o man_n salvation_n without_o take_v any_o pain_n to_o know_v the_o truth_n of_o god_n to_o search_v the_o scripture_n to_o try_v the_o spirit_n and_o to_o discern_v of_o the_o true_a faith_n but_o what_o say_v the_o scripture_n he_o that_o believe_v and_o be_v baptize_v shall_v be_v save_v he_o that_o believe_v not_o shall_v be_v damn_v and_o what_o must_v 16._o mark_n 16._o 16._o they_o believe_v that_o shall_v be_v save_v that_o which_o the_o apostle_n teach_v &_o what_o must_v the_o apostle_n teach_v all_o that_o christ_n command_v then_o must_v every_o believer_n discern_v the_o truth_n of_o his_o 20._o matth._n 28._o 20._o faith_n by_o the_o undoubted_a commandment_n of_o christ_n that_o he_o may_v have_v undoubted_a comfort_n of_o his_o own_o salvation_n man_n will_v not_o take_v money_n for_o currant_n before_o they_o have_v try_v it_o by_o touch_n and_o weight_n and_o will_v any_o be_v so_o desperate_o foolish_a as_o to_o believe_v every_o spirit_n and_o receive_v every_o doctrine_n not_o try_v by_o the_o touch_n of_o scripture_n and_o the_o weight_n of_o god_n sanctuary_n whether_o it_o be_v of_o god_n or_o no_o yea_o but_o s._n paul_n affirm_v that_o the_o church_n be_v the_o pillar_n &_o ground_n of_o truth_n and_o this_o aught_o to_o be_v a_o great_a comfort_n to_o all_o unlearned_a catholic_n it_o ought_v so_o indeed_o and_o to_o the_o learned_a too_o that_o the_o oracle_n of_o god_n be_v commit_v to_o his_o church_n and_o there_o only_o the_o sheep_n of_o god_n may_v hear_v the_o voice_n of_o their_o shepherd_n howbeit_o the_o unlearned_a catholic_n shall_v be_v much_o abuse_v if_o they_o suppose_v this_o church_n to_o be_v the_o suppose_a church_n of_o rome_n or_o think_v that_o truth_n be_v pin_v upon_o any_o 27._o john_n 10._o 27._o one_o church_n sleeve_n or_o be_v indefinite_o commit_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n without_o submission_n to_o the_o trial_n of_o scripture_n what_o be_v truth_n the_o scripture_n only_o show_v where_o that_o truth_n be_v preserve_v and_o teach_v there_o be_v the_o true_a church_n for_o the_o church_n be_v the_o pillar_n &_o ground_n of_o truth_n by_o the_o scripture_n therefore_o all_o true_a catholic_n must_v learn_v to_o know_v the_o true_a church_n and_o receive_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o scripture_n from_o the_o mouth_n and_o by_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o church_n but_o not_o upon_o the_o bare_a and_o only_o cred_a it_o of_o the_o church_n for_o to_o omit_v theophilact_n who_o interprete_v truth_n in_o this_o place_n as_o opposite_a to_o jewish_a shadow_n which_o sense_n may_v very_o well_o be_v follow_v and_o so_o you_o have_v no_o show_n of_o help_n here_o chrysostome_n upon_o the_o place_n give_v this_o sense_n hoc_fw-la est_fw-la enim_fw-la quod_fw-la fidem_fw-la continet_fw-la ac_fw-la praedicationem●_n quip_n verit_fw-la as_o ecclesiae_fw-la &_o columna_fw-la &_o firma●entum_fw-la est_fw-la this_o be_v that_o which_o keep_v faith_n and_o preach_v for_o truth_n be_v the_o pillar_n and_o firmament_n of_o the_o church_n where_o you_o see_v the_o church_n ministerial_o keep_v faith_n and_o preach_v the_o word_n as_o the_o pyramid_n in_o paris_n do_v keep_v the_o memory_n of_o your_o jesuitical_a parricide_n but_o in_o a_o neither_o sense_n the_o truth_n by_o chrysostoms_n judgement_n be_v the_o pillar_n and_o firmament_n of_o the_o church_n and_o dyonisius_n carthusianus_n estque_fw-la columna_fw-la &_o firmamentum_fw-la verit_fw-la atis_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la verit_fw-la atem_fw-la euangelicam_fw-la fortiter_fw-la portat_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n say_v he_o that_o be_v it_o do_v strong_o bear_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n note_n the_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n which_o the_o church_n have_v receive_v not_o any_o truth_n invent_v or_o teach_v by_o the_o church_n without_o or_o beside_o the_o gospel_n therefore_o out_o of_o this_o place_n we_o thus_o conclude_v against_o you_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n that_o be_v bear_v the_o truth_n by_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n before_o man_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n for_o it_o bear_v not_o the_o ●ruth_n before_o man_n by_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n but_o her_o ●●ue_a superstition_n invention_n beside_o the_o gospel_n and_o contrary_a to_o the_o gospel_n at_o prayer_n to_o saint_n purgatory_n
pardon_n real_a presence_n eareshrift_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o the_o church_n of_o god_n the_o second_o reason_n papist_n that_o be_v the_o true_a faith_n and_o religion_n of_o christ_n which_o the_o ancient_a and_o learned_a father_n tanght_n &_o maintain_v in_o the_o flourssh_a time_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n that_o be_v within_o the_o first_o 600_o year_n next_o after_o christ_n and_o this_o be_v so_o true_a that_o our_o adversary_n themselves_o confess_v it_o for_o m._n jewel_n sometime_o of_o sarisbury_n cry_v out_o in_o this_o manner_n o_o gregory_n o_o leo_n o_o augustine_n o_o ambrose_n &c_n &c_n if_o we_o be_v deceive_v you_o have_v deceive_v us._n the_o church_n of_o england_n cross_n in_o his_o challenge_n sermon_n at_o paul_n cross_n also_o continue_v their_o memory_n in_o every_o calendar_n as_o it_o do_v of_o the_o bless_a apostle_n which_o favour_v no_o question_n it_o will_v not_o afford_v they_o if_o it_o judge_v they_o heretic_n or_o false_a teacher_n and_o as_o no_o protestant_n i_o think_v dare_v say_v that_o they_o be_v damn_v in_o hell_n for_o heretical_a or_o false_a doctrine_n so_o most_o sure_o i_o be_o that_o any_o of_o reason_n ought_v rather_o to_o rely_v his_o salvation_n upon_o they_o that_o live_v so_o near_o christ_n then_o upon_o such_o as_o live_v now_o and_o be_v partial_a in_o their_o own_o cause_n protestant_n the_o flower_n of_o your_o reason_n be_v now_o go_v and_o indeed_o a_o flower_n for_o the_o bright_a beam_n of_o truth_n shine_v from_o the_o sun_n of_o righteousness_n in_o the_o firmament_n of_o his_o word_n have_v dim_v the_o grace_n and_o deface_v the_o beauty_n of_o this_o your_o vain_a &_o best_a reason_n the_o second_o reason_n come_v to_o rescue_v the_o former_a at_o unaware_o think_v to_o smite_v his_o enemy_n wound_v his_o fellow_n to_o the_o heart_n for_o if_o the_o long_o continue_a pomp_n of_o your_o suppose_a church_n be_v proof_n enough_o that_o you_o for_o sooth_n be_v the_o true_a church_n and_o if_o the_o privilege_n of_o the_o true_a church_n which_o you_o challenge_v to_o you_o be_v that_o it_o can_v err_v and_o consequent_o we_o be_v to_o believe_v what_o your_o church_n teach_v what_o need_v you_o then_o to_o have_v abate_v this_o last_o 1000_o year_n and_o to_o appeal_v to_o the_o flourish_a time_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n within_o the_o first_o 600_o year_n sure_o this_o be_v a_o plain_a confession_n against_o yourselves_o that_o your_o long_a continue_a church_n come_v much_o short_a in_o dignity_n credit_n and_o authority_n of_o those_o 600_o year_n else_o why_o do_v you_o not_o rest_v content_v with_o your_o own_o testimony_n as_o be_v the_o present_a oracle_n of_o the_o church_n but_o be_v fain_o to_o borrow_v proof_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n consider_v that_o if_o long_a continuance_n be_v the_o matter_n though_o your_o person_n be_v young_a and_o your_o age_n but_o of_o yesterday_o yet_o by_o the_o addition_n of_o so_o many_o year_n your_o church_n have_v a_o grave_a head_n and_o sure_o more_o wrinkle_n in_o her_o face_n then_o in_o those_o former_a time_n she_o have_v if_o therefore_o the_o ancient_a testimony_n do_v more_o strong_o prove_v the_o truth_n then_o be_v theremore_n certain_a trial_n of_o truth_n to_o be_v fetch_v from_o the_o early_a beginning_n of_o the_o church_n then_o from_o the_o long_o continue_a &_o dote_a age_n as_o plain_o appear_v of_o your_o church_n and_o sure_o so_o do_v the_o father_n within_o those_o 600_o year_n they_o prove_v their_o doctrine_n and_o maintain_v every_o truth_n not_o by_o the_o face_n of_o long_a time_n but_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o first_o time_n wherein_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n undoubted_o teach_v the_o truth_n and_o by_o undoubted_a record_n of_o divine_a inspiration_n that_o be_v the_o holy_a scripture_n commend_v the_o same_o to_o all_o posterity_n augustine_n epist_n 19_o ad_fw-la hieron_n ego_fw-la solis_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la libris_fw-la qui_fw-la iam_fw-la canonici_fw-la appellantur_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o have_v learned_a to_o yield_v only_o to_o those_o book_n of_o scripture_n which_o be_v now_o call_v canonical_a that_o fear_n &_o hever_n that_o i_o firm_o believe_v no_o author_n of_o they_o in_o writing_n to_o have_v commit_v any_o error_n other_o i_o so_o read_v that_o how_o holy_a or_o learned_a soever_o they_o be_v i_o do_v not_o therefore_o think_v a_o matter_n to_o be_v true_a because_o they_o so_o think_v but_o because_o they_o be_v able_a to_o persuade_v i_o either_o by_o those_o canonical_a author_n or_o by_o probable_a reason_n that_o it_o swarn_v not_o from_o truth_n and_o therefore_o ad_fw-la vincentium_fw-la donatist_n epist_n 48._o n●l●_n contra_fw-la divina_fw-la testimonia_fw-la etc._n etc._n have_v no_o will_n or_o desire_v out_o of_o the_o writing_n of_o bishop_n together_o cavil_v against_o the_o divine_a testimony_n first_o because_o this_o kind_n of_o writing_n be_v distinguish_v from_o the_o cannon_n etc._n etc._n but_o let_v we_o see_v your_o reason_n that_o be_v the_o true_a faith_n which_o the_o ancient_a and_o learned_a father_n teach_v in_o the_o first_o 600_o year_n but_o they_o be_v of_o our_o religion_n and_o not_o of_o the_o protestant_n therefore_o we_o be_v the_o true_a faith_n and_o not_o the_o protestant_n first_o be_v your_o proposition_n universal_a or_o indefinite_a if_o you_o say_v the_o ancient_a and_o learned_a father_n teach_v the_o true_a faith_n in_o all_o point_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n we_o will_v not_o stick_v with_o you_o but_o if_o you_o say_v that_o withal_o they_o teach_v nothing_o swerve_v from_o the_o true_a faith_n neither_o can_v we_o yield_v it_o unto_o you_o neither_o do_v the_o father_n themselves_o yield_v it_o one_o to_o another_o neither_o do_v any_o one_o of_o they_o presume_v to_o challenge_v so_o much_o to_o himself_o neither_o will_v yourselves_o i_o be_o sure_a general_o also_o affirm_v you_o know_v the_o contrary_a of_o tertullian_n cyprian_n and_o origene_n augustine_n do_v not_o in_o all_o thing_n accord_v with_o jerome_n nor_o allow_v whatsoever_o himself_o have_v write_v and_o these_o thing_n be_v not_o unknown_a to_o you_o nor_o unconfess_v by_o you_o wherefore_o if_o you_o will_v have_v your_o proposition_n universal_o take_v it_o be_v false_a that_o whatsoever_o the_o father_n teach_v be_v the_o true_a faith_n if_o indefinite_o then_o will_v it_o fall_v out_o to_o be_v only_o particular_a of_o some_o thing_n suppose_v the_o most_o thing_n that_o the_o ancient_a learned_a father_n teach_v that_o they_o agree_v with_o the_o true_a faith_n so_o that_o if_o you_o can_v prove_v that_o your_o popish_a faith_n consist_v in_o the_o point_n of_o your_o novelty_n unknown_a to_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n and_o of_o your_o apostafie_n from_o the_o true_a faith_n do_v in_o some_o point_n agree_v with_o some_o opinion_n of_o the_o learned_a father_n yet_o will_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o you_o be_v the_o true_a faith_n unless_o you_o can_v manifest_o prove_v that_o the_o father_n therein_o hold_v the_o true_a faith_n for_o your_o popish_a faith_n partly_o have_v a_o apish_a imitation_n of_o some_o outwear_v rite_n of_o ancient_a time_n as_o unction_n exorcism_n etc._n etc._n partly_o carch_v hold_v of_o some_o of_o their_o error_n as_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a partly_o proceed_v on_o bold_o to_o affirm_v of_o those_o thing_n whereof_o they_o speak_v doubtful_o as_o purgatory_n partly_o pervert_v and_o abuse_v their_o word_n against_o their_o meaning_n sometime_o take_v that_o literal_o which_o they_o mean_v tropical_o as_o sacrifice_n oblation_n priest_n altar_n etc._n etc._n sometime_o wrest_v their_o word_n from_o that_o good_a sense_n which_o they_o bear_v by_o proportion_n of_o their_o writing_n to_o that_o bad_a and_o absurd_a sense_n which_o since_o you_o have_v violent_o draw_v they_o to_o as_o merit_n poenitentiam_fw-la agere_fw-la confession_n satisfaction_n etc._n etc._n contrariwise_o the_o protestant_n religion_n be_v in_o substance_n the_o same_o which_o the_o ancient_a learned_a father_n teach_v wherein_o the_o protestant_n therefore_o follow_v they_o because_o they_o have_v follow_v the_o scripture_n as_o have_v be_v often_o maintain_v prove_v and_o demonstrate_v to_o your_o stop_a ear_n and_o harden_a heart_n brief_o the_o proposition_n universal_o understand_v be_v false_a the_o assumption_n universal_o understand_v of_o all_o their_o faith_n and_o religion_n be_v false_a of_o your_o popish_a faith_n therefore_o the_o conclusion_n follow_v not_o but_o let_v we_o see_v how_o strong_o or_o rather_o strange_o you_o prove_v your_o proposition_n first_o you_o say_v it_o be_v so_o true_a that_o your_o adversary_n confess_v it_o for_o m._n jewel_n sometime_o of_o sarisburie_n etc._n etc._n that_o godly_a and_o learned_a bishop_n be_v confident_a that_o you_o can_v not_o bring_v any_o one_o sufficient_a sentence_n out_o of_o
time_n and_o be_v far_o from_o the_o largeness_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n your_o three_o reason_n be_v then_o be_v it_o not_o also_o the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n as_o s._n paul_n affirm_v let_v we_o also_o bring_v this_o reason_n into_o form_n the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n can_v err_v the_o church_n be_v the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n therefore_o the_o church_n can_v err_v first_o what_o be_v this_o to_o general_a counsel_n which_o be_v not_o that_o church_n which_o s._n paul_n call_v the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n but_o at_o the_o best_a only_a some_o part_n of_o it_o that_o church_n be_v the_o house_n of_o the_o live_a god_n which_o extend_v itself_o more_o large_o both_o in_o regard_n of_o person_n and_o time_n then_o to_o the_o number_n assemble_v in_o some_o general_a counsel_n in_o some_o time_n of_o the_o church_n whereby_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o as_o before_o have_v be_v note_v out_o of_o augustine_n general_a counsel_n have_v correct_v provincial_a and_o the_o late_a general_a counsel_n have_v correct_v the_o former_a wherefore_o some_o general_a council_n or_o counsel_n may_v err_v and_o yet_o the_o church_n remain_v still_o the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n second_o the_o church_n be_v call_v the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n as_o have_v be_v show_v because_o the_o oracle_n of_o god_n be_v commit_v unto_o it_o which_o the_o church_n keep_v faithful_o to_o the_o world_n end_n by_o which_o as_o by_o a_o undoubted_a mark_n the_o true_a church_n be_v know_v from_o the_o false_a for_o the_o false_a church_n cast_v away_o and_o corrupt_v the_o scripture_n neither_o do_v uphold_v and_o bear_v up_o the_o truth_n by_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o be_v manifest_o see_v in_o the_o apostatical_a church_n of_o rome_n contrariwise_o the_o true_a church_n conserve_v the_o record_n of_o god_n truth_n and_o preach_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n for_o the_o gather_n of_o the_o saint_n and_o the_o edify_n 7._o ephes_n 4._o 12._o mal._n 2._o 7._o of_o itself_o howbeit_o as_o the_o priest_n who_o lip_n shall_v preserve_v knowledge_n and_o at_o who_o mouth_n they_o shall_v inquire_v the_o law_n may_v sometime_o fail_v in_o the_o knowledge_n and_o show_v of_o the_o law_n so_o the_o visible_a church_n may_v in_o some_o point_n of_o truth_n hold_v erroneous_a opinion_n and_o yet_o continue_v still_o the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n to_o wit_n of_o that_o truth_n which_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n in_o the_o true_a knowledge_n and_o custody_n whereof_o the_o true_a church_n shall_v never_o deceive_v nor_o be_v deceive_v the_o apostle_n and_o disciple_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n at_o the_o time_n of_o his_o ascension_n be_v the_o only_a true_a visible_a church_n of_o christ_n who_o undoubted_o be_v the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o 3._o 1._o tim._n 6._o 3._o truth_n hold_v fast_o the_o foundation_n which_o be_v jesus_n christ_n and_o keep_v the_o wholesome_a word_n which_o be_v according_a to_o godliness_n 6_o act._n 1._o 6_o yet_o do_v they_o err_v in_o the_o matter_n of_o restore_v the_o kingdom_n to_o israel_n three_o as_o before_o have_v be_v show_v out_o of_o chrysostome_n the_o truth_n be_v the_o pillar_n and_o firmament_n of_o the_o church_n for_o as_o augustine_n 166._o august_n 〈◊〉_d 166._o faith_n to_o the_o donatist_n in_o the_o scripture_n we_o have_v learned_a christ_n in_o the_o scripture_n we_o have_v learn_v the_o church_n understanding_n therefore_o pillar_n ground_n or_o firmament_n for_o the_o strength_n stay_v or_o foundation_n the_o truth_n be_v the_o strength_n stay_v and_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v build_v upon_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o 20._o eph._n 2._o 20._o apostle_n and_o prophet_n jesus_n christ_n himself_o be_v the_o head_n corner_n stone_n but_o the_o church_n be_v the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n as_o 29._o galath_n 29._o cephas_n lamet_n and_o john_n be_v count_v to_o be_v pillar_n because_o by_o their_o preach_v the_o gospel_n be_v great_o uphold_v fundatores_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la erant_fw-la &_o sustentatores_fw-la they_o be_v founder_n of_o the_o church_n and_o upholder_n as_o haym●_n note_v out_o of_o augustine_n so_o the_o church_n lay_v the_o foundation_n of_o truth_n and_o bear_v up_o the_o truth_n by_o confess_v and_o preach_v inqua_fw-la solu_fw-la as_o primasius_n note_v nunc_fw-la veritas_fw-la stat_fw-la firmata_fw-la &_o que_fw-la solatotum_fw-la edificium_fw-la sustinet_fw-la veritatis_fw-la that_o be_v in_o which_o alone_o the_o truth_n now_o stand_v ground_v and_o which_o alone_o bear_v up_o the_o whole_a build_n of_o truth_n not_o that_o the_o church_n be_v as_o lady_n over_o the_o truth_n but_o as_o a_o handmaid_n to_o the_o truth_n therefore_o as_o peter_n be_v a_o pillar_n be_v yet_o subject_a to_o error_n so_o the_o church_n be_v not_o free_a from_o all_o error_n although_o it_o be_v the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n the_o protestant_n therefore_o that_o embrace_n that_o truth_n which_o the_o true_a church_n teach_v according_a to_o the_o scripture_n have_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o not_o the_o papist_n that_o build_v upon_o variable_a and_o uncertain_a definition_n of_o man_n not_o examine_v they_o by_o the_o infallible_a and_o clear_a doctrine_n of_o the_o scripture_n papist_n five_o s._n peter_n say_v that_o no_o prophecy_n of_o scripture_n be_v make_v by_o 20._o 2._o pet._n 1._o 20._o private_a interpretation_n private_a interpretation_n 〈◊〉_d have_v none_o see_v we_o interpret_v they_o according_a to_o that_o sense_n which_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n and_o the_o authority_n of_o god_n church_n deliver_v and_o the_o protestant_n have_v none_o but_o private_a see_v their_o doctrine_n be_v that_o every_o one_o must_v examine_v by_o the_o touchstone_n of_o the_o scripture_n what_o other_o do_v teach_v and_o so_o to_o admit_v or_o reject_v it_o as_o they_o find_v it_o agreeable_a or_o not_o to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o if_o it_o be_v not_o private_a interpretation_n there_o can_v be_v none_o sound_v in_o the_o world_n for_o what_o can_v be_v more_o private_a then_o for_o every_o private_a unlearned_a artificer_n to_o make_v himself_o judge_v over_o all_o and_o to_o sentence_v this_o man_n doctrine_n as_o agreeable_a to_o god_n word_n and_o to_o reject_v the_o common_a opinion_n of_o many_o more_o yea_o though_o of_o ancient_a father_n and_o general_a counsel_n as_o contrary_a to_o sacred_a scripture_n and_o yet_o this_o be_v common_a among_o our_o adversary_n as_o daily_a experience_n inform_v us._n protestant_n private_a interpretation_n in_o this_o place_n of_o peter_n be_v oppose_v to_o the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o spirit_n as_o in_o the_o word_n plain_o appear_v and_o not_o one_o man_n interpretation_n to_o many_o man_n as_o you_o pretend_v for_o all_o man_n interpretation_n if_o it_o be_v humane_a come_v of_o their_o own_o sense_n and_o not_o teach_v by_o the_o spirit_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d their_o own_o which_o you_o call_v private_a the_o gift_n of_o interpretation_n as_o other_o spiritual_a gist_n be_v of_o the_o spirit_n 45._o 1._o cor_fw-la 13._o 10._o luke_n 24._o 45._o of_o god_n who_o open_v the_o heart_n of_o man_n to_o understand_v the_o scripture_n as_o he_o open_v the_o heart_n of_o lydia_n for_o otherwise_o as_o the_o 14._o act._n 1●_n 14._o veil_n remain_v upon_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o jew_n they_o can_v not_o see_v into_o the_o end_n of_o the_o law_n but_o when_o the_o u●●le_n which_o be_v take_v away_o 16._o 2._o cor._n 3._o 16._o from_o their_o heart_n then_o by_o a_o right_a understanding_n of_o the_o scripture_n they_o be_v conver_v unto_o christ_n so_o while_o the_o veil_n of_o carnal_a wisdom_n which_o be_v foolishness_n with_o god_n be_v 24._o 1._o cor._n 1_o 10._o rom._n 8._o 7._o 1._o cor._n 2._o 24._o upon_o the_o heart_n of_o man_n they_o can_v discern_v the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n reveal_v in_o the_o scripture_n for_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o true_a sense_n thereof_o be_v spiritual_o discern_v and_o only_o the_o 45._o joh._n 6._o 45._o spiritual_a man_n discern_v all_o thing_n by_o this_o spirit_n be_v all_o that_o believe_v teach_v of_o god_n and_o every_o man_n that_o have_v hear_v and_o learn_v of_o the_o father_n come_v unto_o christ_n this_o spirit_n by_o the_o 8._o act._n 8._o ministry_n of_o philip_n lead_v the_o eunuch_n to_o the_o true_a sense_n of_o the_o prophet_n esay_n neither_o philip_n nor_o any_o of_o the_o disciple_n can_v give_v he_o the_o spirit_n of_o discern_v neque_fw-la enim_fw-la say_v augustine_n 26._o de_fw-fr trinit_fw-la lib._n 15._o cap._n 26._o aliquis_fw-la discipuloruns_fw-la e●as_fw-la dedit_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la for_o none_o of_o his_o disciple_n give_v the_o holy_a ghost_n neither_o
original_n and_o bind_v to_o a_o corrupt_a translation_n as_o authon●●cal_n you_o suffer_v not_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v vulgar_o translate_v and_o read_v thus_o you_o have_v the_o scripture_n as_o in_o a_o prison_n but_o as_o you_o shall_v have_v they_o to_o make_v they_o common_a to_o all_o man_n by_o read_v preach_v and_o teach_v you_o have_v they_o not_o the_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n you_o have_v such_o as_o may_v stand_v with_o your_o popish_a practice_n which_o be_v the_o privy_a rule_n of_o your_o interpretation_n and_o such_o as_o it_o please_v the_o pope_n to_o prescribe_v you_o but_o true_a interpretation_n of_o scripture_n according_a to_o the_o plain_a principle_n thereof_o and_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n which_o augustine_n so_o much_o commend_v you_o neither_o have_v nor_o will_n have_v nor_o suffer_v other_o to_o have_v if_o you_o may_v let_v it_o and_o so_o your_o interpretation_n be_v private_a as_o either_o be_v the_o pope_n or_o proceed_v from_o your_o own_o faction_n addict_v to_o your_o receive_a practice_n but_o we_o be_v the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n testify_v by_o himself_o in_o the_o scripture_n inspire_v by_o he_o as_o by_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n we_o prove_v and_o therefore_o blasphemous_o by_o you_o call_v private_a see_v therefore_o the_o visibility_n of_o your_o church_n be_v in_o those_o thing_n which_o may_v be_v see_v partly_o among_o the_o heathen_a partly_o in_o a_o false_a church_n which_o the_o long_o it_o continue_v the_o worse_a you_o have_v but_o some_o show_n of_o the_o father_n on_o your_o side_n when_o indeed_o they_o be_v against_o you_o and_o so_o have_v not_o the_o antiquity_n of_o truth_n but_o of_o error_n you_o neither_o have_v the_o scripture_n as_o you_o shall_v have_v they_o for_o yourselves_o and_o other_o nor_o their_o true_a sense_n and_o interpretation_n but_o only_o of_o your_o own_o make_n your_o popish_a faith_n though_o it_o be_v old_a in_o itself_o yet_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o day_n of_o our_o father_n our_o saviour_n christ_n the_o apostle_n and_o prophet_n the_o day_n thereof_o have_v be_v but_o few_o and_o evil_a and_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o the_o old_a catholic_a &_o apostolic_a faith_n whatsoever_o this_o false_a and_o forceless_a reasoner_n have_v say_v papist_n a_o short_a addition_n believe_v assure_o and_o hold_v for_o certain_a that_o no_o heretic_n and_o schismatic_n that_o unit_v not_o himself_o to_o the_o catholic_a church_n again_o how_o great_a alm_n soev_a he_o give_v yea_o or_o shed_v his_o blood_n for_o christ_n name_n can_v possible_o be_v save_v for_o many_o heretic_n by_o the_o cloak_n of_o christ_n cause_n deceive_v the_o simple_a suffer_v much_o but_o where_o no_o true_a faith_n be_v there_o be_v no_o justice_n because_o the_o just_a live_v by_o faith_n so_o it_o be_v also_o of_o schismatic_n because_o where_o charity_n be_v not_o no_o justice_n can_v be_v there_o which_o of_o they_o have_v they_o will_v never_o pluck_v in_o piece_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v the_o church_n a_o sentence_n of_o s._n austin_n worthy_a to_o be_v note_v of_o such_o as_o think_v that_o man_n which_o live_v virtuous_o may_v go_v to_o heaven_n though_o they_o believe_v not_o the_o catholic_a faith_n nor_o be_v member_n of_o his_o true_a church_n for_o as_o most_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o none_o which_o believe_v not_o all_o the_o article_n of_o the_o catholic_a faith_n can_v be_v save_v though_o to_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o world_n be_v live_v or_o die_v never_o so_o well_o for_o without_o faith_n it_o be_v as_o paul_n say_v unpossible_a to_o please_v god_n and_o s._n athanasius_n tell_v we_o that_o whosoever_o will_v be_v save_v before_o all_o thing_n it_o be_v necessary_a that_o he_o hold_v the_o catholic_a faith_n which_o faith_n without_o every_o one_o shall_v keep_v whole_a and_o inviolate_a without_o doubt_n he_o shall_v perish_v for_o ever_o so_o no_o less_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o although_o we_o believe_v never_o so_o well_o yet_o if_o we_o live_v not_o according_a to_o that_o faith_n and_o so_o abstain_v from_o communicate_v with_o heretic_n in_o their_o service_n and_o sacrament_n we_o can_v be_v save_v for_o he_o that_o shall_v deny_v christ_n before_o man_n christ_n also_o will_v deny_v he_o before_o his_o father_n in_o heaven_n as_o himself_o say_v and_o if_o we_o may_v without_o sin_n temporize_v and_o frame_v our_o conscience_n according_a to_o the_o law_n when_o shall_v we_o take_v up_o our_o cross_n and_o follow_v crist_n as_o himself_o will_v we_o and_o what_o mean_v the_o bless_a apostle_n and_o so_o many_o 1000_o of_o martyr_n to_o shed_v their_o blood_n for_o christ_n of_o a_o inward_a and_o secret_a faith_n may_v have_v bring_v they_o to_o heaven_n and_o they_o may_v outward_o have_v yield_v to_o prince_n law_n and_o keep_v their_o conscience_n to_o themselves_o this_o doctrine_n christ_n servant_n know_v not_o it_o be_v devise_v only_o for_o the_o cold_a comfort_n of_o such_o as_o love_v this_o world_n too_o much_o and_o fear_v persecution_n but_o let_v such_o think_v of_o this_o say_n of_o our_o saviour_n fear_v you_o not_o they_o that_o kill_v the_o body_n and_o be_v not_o able_a to_o kill_v the_o soul_n but_o rather_o fear_v he_o that_o can_v destroy_v both_o body_n &_o soul_n into_o hell_n and_o let_v they_o imitate_v noble_a eleazarus_n 28._o mart._n 2._o 28._o who_o rather_o make_v choice_n of_o cruel_a death_n then_o to_o dissemble_v in_o the_o cause_n of_o religion_n and_o do_v that_o with_o the_o scandal_n of_o other_o which_o of_o itself_o be_v no_o sin_n at_o all_o protestant_n augustine_n sentence_n de_n fide_fw-la and_o pet._n diac._n cap._n 39_o be_v one●●_n thus_o much_o formissimè_fw-la tene_fw-la &_o nullatenus_fw-la dubites_fw-la quemlibet_fw-la hareticum_fw-la sive_fw-la schismaticum_fw-la in_fw-la nomine_fw-la patris_fw-la &_o filii_fw-la &_o spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la baptizatum_fw-la si_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la catholicae_fw-la non_fw-la fuerit_fw-la aggregatus_fw-la quantascunque_fw-la eleemosinas_fw-la fecerit_fw-la &_o si_fw-la pro_fw-la christi_fw-la nomine_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la fuderit_fw-la nullatenus_fw-la posse_fw-la saluari_fw-la that_o be_v firm_o believe_v &_o by_o no_o mean_n doubt_v that_o every_o heretic_n or_o schismatic_n be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o the_o son_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n how_o great_a alm_n soever_o he_o do_v yea_o though_o he_o shed_v his_o blood_n for_o christ_n name_n yet_o if_o he_o be_v not_o gather_v to_o the_o catholic_a church_n by_o no_o mean_n can_v be_v save_v this_o sentence_n though_o not_o word_n for_o word_n yet_o in_o effect_n you_o rehearse_v but_o you_o add_v thereunto_o more_o word_n whereof_o augustine_n in_o that_o place_n have_v never_o a_o one_o &_o yet_o in_o the_o end_n conclude_v a_o sentence_n of_o s_o austen_n as_o if_o all_o that_o go_v before_o be_v his_o sentence_n in_o that_o chapter_n it_o seem_v therefore_o that_o you_o read_v not_o augustine_n word_n yourself_o but_o borrow_v they_o some_o where_o without_o discern_a where_n augustine_n word_n end_v the_o rest_n be_v a_o truth_n but_o not_o true_a that_o augustine_n there_o have_v such_o a_o sentence_n what_o will_v you_o now_o infer_v out_o of_o this_o sentence_n of_o augustine_n first_o that_o man_n though_o they_o live_v never_o so_o virtuous_o yet_o if_o they_o believe_v not_o the_o catholic_a faith_n nor_o be_v member_n of_o his_o true_a church_n can_v be_v save_v second_o that_o if_o man_n believe_v never_o so_o well_o yet_o if_o they_o live_v not_o according_a to_o the_o faith_n and_o so_o abstain_v from_o communicate_v with_o heretic_n in_o their_o service_n and_o sacrament_n they_o can_v be_v save_v and_o so_o proceed_v on_o to_o condemn_v those_o that_o outward_o have_v yield_v to_o prince_n law_n and_o keep_v their_o conscience_n to_o themselves_o all_o which_o may_v with_o no_o gain_n to_o you_o be_v yield_v it_o the_o chief_a term_n be_v well_o understand_v to_o wit_n catholic_a church_n catholic_a faith_n and_o heretic_n or_o schismatic_n for_o if_o the_o popish_a church_n be_v not_o the_o catholic_a church_n nor_o the_o popish_a faith_n the_o catholic_a faith_n nor_o they_o heretic_n or_o schismatic_n that_o stand_v in_o opposition_n to_o popery_n or_o do_v depart_v from_o popish_a communion_n then_o what_o gain_v you_o by_o this_o whole_a addition_n but_o it_o be_v a_o world_n to_o see_v into_o what_o a_o maze_n you_o have_v lead_v the_o poor_a sheep_n of_o your_o flock_n that_o no_o soon_o they_o hear_v catholic_a church_n or_o catholic_a faith_n but_o by_o and_o by_o they_o think_v of_o popish_a church_n and_o popish_a faith_n between_o which_o there_o be_v no_o less_o difference_n then_o between_o light_n and_o darkness_n and_o again_o when_o they_o hear_v of_o her●tikes_n they_o present_o
god_n have_v not_o 11._o 2._o thes_n 2._o 10._o 11._o send_v you_o strong_a illusion_n to_o believe_v lie_n because_o you_o will_v not_o believe_v the_o truth_n it_o can_v not_o be_v that_o you_o shall_v thus_o grope_v at_o noon_n day_n and_o still_o call_v for_o proof_n in_o that_o which_o be_v so_o abundant_o prove_v after_o the_o pope_n have_v once_o full_o get_v into_o the_o chair_n of_o apostasy_n the_o ash_n of_o those_o witness_n of_o god_n who_o for_o the_o testimony_n of_o jesus_n christ_n you_o have_v slay_v as_o they_o be_v keep_v in_o store_n for_o a_o witness_n against_o you_o on_o earth_n so_o their_o spirit_n now_o in_o heaven_n do_v cry_v against_o you_o as_o the_o blood_n of_o abel_n against_o cain_n since_o the_o discovery_n of_o that_o man_n of_o sin_n in_o these_o latter_a year_n you_o have_v find_v our_o congregation_n through_o god_n goodness_n much_o thick_a in_o all_o nation_n than_o you_o will_v have_v suffer_v if_o your_o nimrods_n arm_n have_v be_v as_o long_o as_o they_o be_v wont_v to_o be_v but_o what_o if_o we_o shall_v only_o answer_v you_o that_o the_o first_o of_o these_o 1600._o be_v more_o in_o trial_n of_o truth_n then_o all_o the_o rest_n as_o that_o one_o day_n of_o the_o institution_n of_o matrimony_n between_o one_o man_n 4._o math._n 19_o 4._o and_o one_o woman_n join_v together_o by_o a_o unseparable_a knot_n be_v more_o to_o prove_v the_o integrity_n thereof_o than_o all_o the_o year_n succeed_v wherein_o polygamy_n and_o dinorce_n have_v prevail_v will_v you_o renounce_v the_o trial_n of_o these_o incorrupted_a time_n and_o appeal_v to_o the_o latter_a wherein_o sundry_a corruption_n be_v apparent_o creep_v in_o what_o be_v this_o else_o but_o to_o shun_v the_o light_n as_o the_o manner_n of_o deceiver_n and_o evil_a doer_n be_v what_o the_o religion_n of_o this_o hundred_o be_v nay_o what_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v for_o ever_o let_v the_o apostolic_a writer_n witness_v and_o it_o the_o religion_n of_o the_o protestant_a congregation_n be_v the_o same_o with_o the_o religion_n teach_v believe_v and_o practise_v in_o that_o hundred_o let_v all_o the_o latter_a time_n know_v that_o they_o be_v too_o young_a to_o control_v it_o much_o more_o let_v popish_a novelty_n retire_v into_o the_o school_n and_o cloister_n where_o it_o be_v breed_v last_o all_o the_o time_n succeed_v have_v embrace_v the_o scripture_n as_o the_o very_a word_n of_o god_n have_v retain_v the_o confession_n of_o faith_n call_v the_o apostle_n creed_n as_o agreeable_a to_o holy_a scripture_n and_o only_o herein_o have_v seek_v for_o the_o canon_n and_o rule_n of_o truth_n the_o protestant_a congregation_n hold_v the_o same_o faith_n and_o serve_v god_n by_o the_o same_o rule_n have_v therefore_o on_o their_o side_n the_o consent_n of_o all_o age_n from_o moses_n to_o christ_n from_o christ_n to_o his_o apostle_n to_o this_o day_n avouch_v the_o faith_n and_o service_n of_o god_n which_o they_o follow_v and_o practice_v and_o be_v compass_v with_o a_o great_a cloud_n of_o witness_n than_o all_o the_o popish_a canonist_n summist_n jesuit_n and_o disputant_n shall_v ever_o be_v able_a to_o show_v hence_o i_o thus_o conclude_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o first_o hundred_v record_v in_o the_o scripture_n and_o retain_v in_o the_o age_n follow_v hold_v firm_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o apostle_n creed_n be_v the_o true_a faith_n and_o they_o so_o believe_v and_o hold_v the_o true_a church_n the_o faith_n of_o the_o protestant_a congregation_n be_v the_o same_o therefore_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o protestant_a congregation_n be_v the_o true_a faith_n and_o they_o the_o true_a faith_n and_o they_o the_o true_a church_n papist_n they_o say_v they_o have_v be_v though_o innisible_a and_o they_o know_v not_o where_o this_o answer_n can_v serve_v nor_o yield_v any_o content_n to_o a_o soul_n desirous_a of_o truth_n for_o what_o man_n careful_a of_o salvation_n will_v leave_v a_o church_n always_o visible_a and_o know_v as_o we_o have_v be_v and_o follow_v a_o congregation_n the_o beginning_n whereof_o be_v yet_o fresh_a in_o memory_n and_o be_v never_o hear_v of_o before_o for_o many_o age_n together_o as_o themselves_o can_v deny_v protestant_n as_o your_o religion_n consist_v whole_o of_o error_n so_o you_o must_v needs_o defend_v it_o by_o lie_n and_o that_o against_o your_o own_o knowledge_n if_o at_o least_o you_o have_v inform_v yourself_o of_o the_o truth_n of_o that_o we_o say_v be_v not_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n visible_a be_v not_o the_o godly_a bishop_n and_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n visible_a say_v we_o not_o that_o our_o religion_n be_v the_o same_o that_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n teach_v that_o the_o true_a church_n of_o god_n succeed_v in_o all_o age_n do_v profess_v and_o practice_v according_a to_o the_o scripture_n whereas_o on_o the_o other_o side_n wherein_o soever_o you_o differ_v from_o we_o you_o differ_v from_o the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n and_o have_v new_a forbished_a erroneous_a and_o heretical_a opinion_n and_o build_v upon_o man_n imperfection_n and_o frailty_n and_o those_o neither_o agree_n with_o the_o scripture_n nor_o with_o the_o analogy_n of_o that_o faith_n which_o themselves_o maintain_v &_o teach_v why_o then_o shame_n you_o not_o to_o affirm_v that_o we_o know_v not_o where_o the_o witness_n &_o teacher_n of_o our_o religion_n have_v be_v for_o so_o your_o meaning_n must_v be_v true_a it_o be_v that_o against_o the_o long_a continue_a visibility_n of_o your_o inglorious_a synagogue_n whereby_o you_o bear_v the_o ignorant_a in_o hand_n that_o you_o be_v the_o true_a church_n we_o answer_v true_o and_o prove_v it_o by_o instance_n of_o the_o time_n of_o elias_n and_o of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n that_o the_o synagogue_n of_o satan_n be_v oftentimes_o and_o for_o long_a time_n more_o visible_a than_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o of_o christ_n and_o that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v like_o the_o moon_n as_o 10._o in_o psal_n 10._o augustine_n augustine_n compare_v it_o which_o sometime_o give_v no_o light_n at_o all_o this_o our_o answer_n may_v give_v content_a to_o every_o soul_n that_o be_v desirous_a of_o truth_n especial_o such_o as_o will_v take_v the_o pain_n to_o search_v the_o scripture_n whether_o the_o thing_n we_o say_v be_v so_o or_o no._n as_o for_o that_o your_o bad_a asseveration_n that_o your_o church_n have_v be_v always_o visible_a and_o that_o the_o begin_n of_o we_o be_v yet_o in_o fresh_a memory_n and_o be_v never_o hear_v of_o before_o in_o many_o age_n together_o as_o ourselves_o you_o say_v can_v defy_v it_o be_v even_o as_o true_a as_o the_o rest_n of_o your_o religion_n unfold_v we_o the_o antiquity_n of_o that_o capital_a and_o fundamental_a point_n of_o your_o religion_n subesse_fw-la sanctam_fw-la extran_n come_v de_fw-fr maior_fw-la &_o ob_v cap._n unam_fw-la sanctam_fw-la romano_n pontifici_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-fr necessitate_v salutis_fw-la this_o be_v your_o principle_n of_o principle_n and_o yet_o as_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o all_o record_n of_o scripture_n wherein_o there_o be_v no_o footstep_n of_o any_o such_o dependence_n so_o be_v it_o control_v by_o the_o clear_a testimony_n of_o all_o antiquity_n by_o the_o primitive_a state_n and_o constitution_n of_o the_o church_n 38._o council_n afric_n cap._n 92._o 101._o 105._o council_n niceu_fw-fr can._n 6._o epist_n lib._n 6._o epist_n 30._o &_o li._n 4._o epist_n 38._o in_o all_o the_o christian_a world_n and_o by_o the_o judicious_a sentence_n of_o gregory_n the_o first_o a_o bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o can_v we_o not_o deny_v that_o the_o begin_n of_o our_o congregation_n be_v yet_o in_o fresh_a memory_n etc._n etc._n god_n open_v the_o eye_n of_o the_o blind_a to_o see_v your_o cunning_n and_o sophistical_a equivocation_n which_o be_v now_o become_v the_o idiom_n and_o proper_a language_n of_o popery_n true_a it_o be_v indeed_o that_o the_o recovery_n of_o that_o liberty_n which_o by_o god_n mercy_n our_o church_n now_o enjoy_v since_o they_o come_v out_o of_o the_o spiritual_a babylon_n which_o be_v the_o romish_a synagogue_n may_v be_v fetch_v out_o of_o late_a memory_n but_o be_v this_o the_o question_n between_o we_o or_o rather_o whether_o the_o beginning_n of_o that_o religion_n which_o give_v the_o be_v to_o our_o church_n and_o whereby_o they_o be_v distinguish_v from_o your_o antichristian_a synagogue_n be_v yet_o in_o fresh_a memory_n if_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n with_o their_o doctrine_n and_o faith_n be_v but_o of_o yesterday_o then_o so_o be_v we_o but_o if_o they_o be_v from_o the_o beginning_n our_o religion_n be_v the_o same_o begin_v not_o one_o day_n or_o hour_n late_a than_o they_o do_v last_o be_v it_o that_o the_o pompous_a and_o vainglory_n of_o your_o synagogue_n be_v
before_o in_o the_o day_n of_o helkias_n the_o priest_n but_o choose_v you_o whether_o you_o will_v cease_v your_o wrangle_n about_o man_n name_n or_o not_o and_o be_v it_o know_v to_o you_o that_o we_o will_v search_v the_o scripture_n in_o which_o alone_o we_o believe_v to_o 39_o john_n 5._o 39_o have_v eternal_a life_n and_o which_o only_o bear_v unto_o we_o infallible_a witness_n of_o christ_n and_o of_o all_o true_a religion_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n how_o beit_n be_v your_o succession_n any_o thing_n worth_a to_o the_o find_v out_o of_o truth_n when_o or_o how_o shall_v it_o be_v agree_v whether_o liws_o or_o clemens_n succeed_v peter_n whether_o cletus_n and_o anacletus_fw-la be_v one_o man_n or_o if_o they_o be_v two_o which_o be_v the_o first_o or_o which_o must_v be_v put_v out_o of_o the_o succession_n or_o whether_o clemens_n be_v before_o they_o or_o either_o of_o they_o for_o these_o uncertainty_n be_v in_o the_o high_a round_n of_o this_o your_o ladder_n of_o succession_n tell_v we_o whether_o pope_n joave_v have_v not_o make_v a_o foul_a crack_n in_o your_o succession_n or_o what_o we_o shall_v make_v of_o your_o 30._o schism_n whereof_o the_o twenty_o nine_o continue_v the_o space_n of_o 50_o year_n together_o first_o with_o two_o pope_n at_o once_o then_o with_o three_o until_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n remove_v they_o all_o three_o and_o set_v up_o martin_n 5._o since_o your_o church_n representative_a in_o the_o council_n judge_v against_o they_o all_o three_o may_v we_o not_o right_o judge_v that_o your_o succesion_n be_v quite_o break_v off_o and_o none_o of_o these_o 3_o nor_o they_o to_o who_o they_o succeed_v during_o that_o schism_n be_v true_a successor_n of_o peter_n how_o ever_o it_o be_v make_v your_o succession_n as_o strong_a as_o you_o can_v except_o cum_fw-la successione_n episcopatus_fw-la with_o the_o succession_n of_o the_o chair_n they_o have_v receive_v veritatis_fw-la charisma_n certum_fw-la the_o undoubted_a 43._o iren_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 43._o gift_n of_o truth_n we_o make_v no_o reckon_n of_o it_o as_o for_o your_o austen_n who_o you_o say_v convert_v we_o englishmen_n it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o this_o island_n have_v receive_v the_o faith_n long_o before_o austen_n be_v bear_v in_o the_o day_n of_o king_n lucius_n and_o even_o at_o that_o time_n have_v true_a religion_n in_o better_a order_n &_o in_o more_o sincerity_n than_o austen_n himself_o except_o there_o be_v any_o more_o sincerity_n in_o his_o doctrine_n then_o in_o his_o superstitious_a and_o vainglorious_a ceremony_n upon_o which_o together_o with_o your_o cloister_n and_o den_n god_n in_o his_o mercy_n have_v bring_v the_o confusion_n of_o babel_n as_o appear_v this_o day_n and_o shall_v do_v we_o trust_v more_o and_o more_o papist_n out_o of_o this_o reason_n may_v one_o quick_o learn_v that_o all_o point_n of_o our_o religion_n be_v most_o true_a as_o pray_v to_o saint_n purgatory_n pardon_n the_o real_a presence_n confession_n of_o sin_n &_o though_o oach_v one_o know_v not_o how_o to_o defend_v they_o nor_o perceive_v upon_o what_o ground_n they_o stand_v for_o see_v we_o have_v now_o prove_v that_o our_o church_n be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n consequent_o we_o be_v to_o believe_v that_o which_o it_o teach_v because_o she_o can_v err_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n for_o if_o she_o can_v then_o may_v we_o as_o well_o be_v damn_v be_v member_n of_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n as_o member_n of_o the_o false_a and_o not_o for_o a_o wicked_a life_n but_o for_o a_o wrong_a belief_n which_o can_v be_v and_o to_o free_v we_o from_o all_o such_o doubt_n saint_n paul_n affirm_v that_o the_o church_n be_v the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n this_o aught_o to_o be_v a_o great_a comfort_n to_o all_o 15._o 1_o tim._n 3._o 15._o unlearned_a catholic_n that_o can_v enter_v into_o the_o deep_a mystery_n of_o christian_a religion_n protestant_n no_o doubt_v you_o must_v needs_o prove_v a_o forcible_a reasoner_n that_o out_o of_o one_o sophistical_a syllogism_n full_a of_o equivocation_n as_o have_v be_v show_v &_o from_o a_o reason_n pretend_v of_o the_o continuance_n of_o the_o church_n invifible_a reputation_n as_o you_o say_v for_o the_o space_n of_o 1600._o year_n which_o by_o your_o own_o confession_n will_v serve_v the_o jewish_a synagogue_n as_o well_o as_o your_o suppose_a church_n yet_o as_o if_o you_o have_v strike_v the_o matter_n dead_a presume_v out_o of_o hand_n that_o all_o be_v prove_v you_o have_v now_o prove_v that_o your_o church_n be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n they_o that_o will_v be_v carry_v away_o with_o such_o proof_n it_o skill_v not_o great_o of_o what_o church_n they_o be_v they_o sure_o dote_v upon_o the_o romish_a harlot_n and_o follow_v she_o for_o blind_a love_n and_o not_o for_o reason_n but_o let_v we_o further_o examine_v how_o forcible_o you_o build_v upon_o this_o sandy_a foundation_n if_o your_o church_n be_v the_o true_a church_n than_o all_o must_v be_v believe_v that_o she_o teach_v and_o therefore_o pray_v to_o saint_n purgatory_n pardon_n etc._n etc._n for_o she_o can_v err_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n be_v not_o the_o church_n of_o galathia_fw-la true_a church_n be_v not_o the_o bring_n in_o of_o circumcision_n to_o be_v join_v with_o faith_n in_o christ_n as_o necessary_a to_o 6._o gal._n 1._o 6._o salvation_n a_o error_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n do_v not_o the_o galathian_o err_v in_o that_o point_n in_o so_o much_o that_o the_o apostle_n reprove_v they_o as_o those_o that_o have_v remove_v to_o another_o gospel_n if_o the_o member_n of_o a_o true_a church_n ought_v to_o believe_v all_o that_o the_o church_n teach_v they_o who_o can_v blame_v the_o galathian_o in_o this_o point_n yet_o paul_n spare_v not_o to_o call_v they_o foolish_a again_o be_v not_o the_o apostle_n the_o true_a church_n yet_o do_v they_o err_v even_o after_o christ_n resurrection_n not_o only_o before_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n but_o after_o also_o and_o that_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n before_o the_o holy_a ghost_n come_v down_o they_o 6._o act._n 1._o 6._o dream_v of_o restore_v the_o external_a kingdom_n of_o israel_n and_o that_o by_o christ_n after_o they_o have_v receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n 14._o act._n 10._o 14._o peter_n judge_v some_o meat_n unclean_a and_o be_v doubtful_a of_o go_v into_o the_o uncircumcised_a and_o eat_v with_o they_o until_o he_o be_v better_o inform_v by_o a_o heavenly_a vision_n neither_o be_v this_o error_n proper_a to_o he_o alone_o and_o yet_o have_v he_o be_v pastor_n of_o pastor_n and_o the_o high_a bishop_n in_o the_o church_n from_o who_o lip_n all_o truth_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v how_o can_v the_o church_n have_v be_v free_a from_o this_o error_n for_o as_o gregory_n say_v 34._o epist_n lib._n 6._o epist_n 34._o si_fw-mi unus_fw-la episcopus_fw-la voco_fw-la universalis_fw-la universa_fw-la ecclesiacorruit_fw-la si_fw-la unus_fw-la universus_fw-la cadit_fw-la that_o be_v if_o one_o bishop_n be_v call_v universal_a the_o whole_a church_n be_v ruinate_v if_o that_o one_o universal_a do_v fall_v but_o common_a to_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n as_o appear_v both_o in_o that_o he_o be_v call_v to_o a_o account_n before_o the_o apostle_n 3._o act._n 11._o 3._o and_o the_o church_n for_o enter_v in_o unto_o cornelius_n and_o allege_v his_o warrant_n both_o by_o vision_n and_o special_a oracle_n satisfy_v they_o so_o as_o they_o now_o first_o come_v to_o discern_v that_o god_n unto_o the_o gentile_n also_o have_v grant_v repentance_n unto_o life_n and_o 18._o verse_n 18._o therefore_o hold_v their_o peace_n and_o glorify_a god_n and_o also_o in_o that_o when_o some_o come_v from_o james_n he_o withdraw_v himself_o from_o 12._o gal._n 2._o 12._o the_o gentile_n which_o he_o will_v not_o have_v do_v if_o the_o true_a church_n have_v not_o as_o then_o be_v unsettle_a in_o this_o point_n of_o faith_n that_o which_o befall_v unto_o the_o apostolic_a church_n may_v much_o more_o befall_v unto_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o the_o like_a have_v do_v unto_o many_o other_o church_n and_o therefore_o it_o follow_v not_o because_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v once_o the_o true_a church_n that_o either_o it_o can_v err_v or_o must_v needs_o continue_v the_o true_a church_n still_o such_o bragger_n as_o you_o be_v those_o rabbi_n that_o conspire_v against_o jeremie_n presume_v as_o you_o do_v that_o the_o law_n shall_v not_o perish_v from_o the_o priest_n nor_o counsel_n from_o the_o wise_a nor_o 18._o jer._n 18._o v._n 18._o the_o word_n from_o the_o prophet_n that_o be_v that_o the_o church_n can_v not_o err_v but_o the_o lord_n by_o ezechiel_n tell_v they_o that_o build_v upon_o that_o false_a principle_n that_o when_o they_o shall_v come_v to_o
be_v your_o exposition_n your_o last_o mean_n be_v the_o decree_n of_o general_a counsel_n can_v you_o bring_v we_o the_o decree_n of_o general_a counsel_n touch_v all_o scripture_n what_o sense_n they_o do_v and_o aught_o to_o bear_v if_o not_o then_o belike_o there_o be_v no_o know_a sense_n of_o any_o other_o scripture_n than_o such_o as_o general_a counsel_n have_v expound_v the_o rest_n be_v bury_v in_o obscurity_n but_o augustine_n will_v not_o yield_v to_o that_o who_o among_o other_o mean_n to_o find_v out_o the_o true_a interpretation_n of_o scripture_n advise_v diligent_o to_o search_v for_o both_o 9_o de_fw-fr doctr._n christ_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 9_o such_o precept_n of_o good_a life_n and_o rule_n of_o faith_n as_o be_v plain_o set_v down_o in_o the_o scripture_n whereof_o the_o more_o a_o man_n find_v the_o more_o capable_a he_o be_v understand_v the_o scripture_n yield_v this_o reason_n of_o his_o advice_n in_o his_o enim_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o in_o those_o word_n which_o be_v evident_o set_v down_o in_o the_o scripture_n be_v find_v all_o those_o thing_n which_o contain_v faith_n and_o manner_n of_o life_n next_o do_v general_a counsel_n all_o agree_v in_o one_o in_o this_o also_o augustine_n be_v a_o witness_n against_o you_o write_v against_o the_o donatist_n who_o plead_v cyprian_n letter_n cyprian_n sentence_v cyprian_n council_n but_o augustine_n prefer_v the_o holy_a scripture_n above_o all_o the_o writing_n of_o bishop_n yea_o above_o all_o general_a counsel_n allow_v the_o scripture_n alone_o to_o have_v certainty_n and_o undoubted_a truth_n in_o they_o but_o all_o the_o writing_n of_o bishop_n yea_o the_o determination_n of_o counsel_n to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o correction_n of_o other_o bishop_n after_o they_o and_o likewise_o of_o other_o and_o late_a counsel_n his_o word_n touch_v the_o counsel_n be_v ipsa_fw-la enim_fw-la concilia_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o the_o very_a counsel_n 3._o de_fw-fr baptis_fw-la count_n dovat_fw-la lib._n 2._o cap._n 3._o which_o be_v hold_v through_o every_o region_n or_o province_n do_v without_o all_o doubt_n give_v place_n to_o the_o authority_n of_o plenary_a or_o general_a counsel_n which_o be_v hold_v from_o out_o of_o all_o the_o christian_a world_n and_o the_o verieplenarie_a or_o general_a counsel_n the_o former_a oftentimes_o be_v amend_v by_o the_o late_a when_o by_o any_o experiment_n of_o thing_n that_o be_v open_a which_o be_v keep_v close_o and_o that_o be_v know_v which_o do_v lie_v hide_v what_o can_v have_v be_v more_o plain_o speak_v to_o bring_v into_o order_n not_o only_o all_o man_n writing_n but_o even_o general_a counsel_n also_o to_o be_v judge_v by_o the_o scripture_n and_o not_o to_o judge_v over_o the_o scripture_n wherefore_o be_v it_o true_a that_o you_o so_o vain_o boast_v of_o that_o you_o have_v the_o consent_n of_o ancient_a father_n and_o the_o decree_n of_o general_a counsel_n for_o you_o yet_o be_v these_o no_o sure_a foundation_n to_o build_v our_o faith_n upon_o neither_o do_v we_o take_v it_o to_o be_v any_o disgrace_n unto_o we_o that_o we_o refuse_v to_o receive_v our_o faith_n and_o understanding_n in_o the_o mystery_n of_o godliness_n from_o man_n because_o we_o fear_v the_o curse_n which_o be_v against_o the_o man_n that_o trust_v in_o man_n and_o make_v flesh_n his_o arm_n yea_o rather_o we_o account_v it_o a_o honour_n to_o we_o both_o before_o god_n and_o man_n ●_o jerem._n ●_o ●_o that_o we_o together_o with_o the_o whole_a true_a church_n of_o god_n be_v build_v upon_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o prophet_n jesus_n christ_n himself_o be_v the_o head_n corner_n stone_n that_o we_o try_v every_o spirit_n by_o the_o scripture_n whether_o it_o be_v of_o god_n or_o no_o that_o we_o prove_v 20._o eph._n 2._o 20._o 1._o joh._n 4._o 1._o 1._o thes_n 5._o 21._o act._n 17._o 11._o joh._n 5._o 39_o esa_n 8._o 20._o all_o thing_n as_o the_o man_n of_o beraea_n do_v by_o search_v the_o scripture_n according_a to_o the_o commandment_n of_o christ_n and_o hold_v that_o which_o be_v good_a that_o we_o have_v recourse_n to_o the_o law_n and_o to_o the_o testimony_n and_o whosoever_o speak_v not_o according_a to_o that_o word_n we_o hold_v they_o to_o be_v in_o darkness_n and_o to_o have_v no_o light_n in_o they_o from_o this_o hold_v you_o shall_v never_o drive_v we_o and_o yet_o thanks_o be_v to_o god_n you_o have_v hitherto_o be_v beat_v at_o your_o own_o weapon_n and_o for_o the_o principal_a point_n of_o faith_n and_o religion_n have_v be_v put_v to_o silence_n by_o a_o cloud_n of_o testimony_n both_o out_o of_o ancient_a father_n and_o counsel_n howsoever_o your_o brazen_a forehead_n can_v blush_v nor_o your_o leaden_a heart_n relent_v but_o still_o you_o will_v cry_v father_n father_n counsel_n counsel_n papist_n second_o to_o give_v more_o light_a and_o force_v to_o the_o former_a reason_n concern_v the_o authority_n of_o father_n i_o say_v that_o one_o or_o two_o or_o a_o few_o of_o they_o may_v be_v deceive_v and_o therefore_o such_o particular_a opinion_n we_o admit_v not_o and_o so_o refuse_v s._n cyprian_n about_o rebaptisation_n so_o we_o make_v no_o doubt_n but_o the_o uniform_a and_o general_a consent_n of_o they_o live_v in_o diverse_a and_o far_o distant_a place_n and_o at_o diverse_a time_n can_v but_o proceed_v from_o the_o spirit_n of_o all_o truth_n that_o govern_v the_o church_n and_o therefore_o s._n austin_n speak_v of_o the_o father_n that_o live_v 10._o contr._n juli._n lib._n 2._o cap._n 10._o before_o his_o time_n have_v these_o excellent_a word_n that_o which_o they_o find_v in_o the_o church_n they_o hold_v fast_o that_o which_o they_o learn_v they_o teach_v that_o which_o they_o receive_v of_o their_o father_n the_o same_o they_o deliver_v to_o their_o child_n s._n paul_n likewise_o say_v that_o christ_n have_v 14._o eph._n 4._o 11._o 14._o give_v pastor_n and_o doctor_n that_o flourish_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n and_o the_o protestant_n can_v defy_v but_o that_o with_o their_o pen_n and_o labour_v they_o do_v defend_v the_o faith_n against_o the_o arian_n pelagian_o donatist_n and_o many_o more_o such_o pestilent_a heretic_n protestant_n first_o we_o have_v show_v you_o before_o that_o by_o the_o judgement_n of_o cardinal_n caietane_n who_o andradius_fw-la defend_v in_o it_o it_o be_v lawful_a yea_o and_o necessary_a sometime_o in_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n to_o leave_v the_o stream_n of_o the_o father_n and_o follow_v a_o diverse_a interpretation_n from_o they_o all_o which_o may_v at_o no_o hand_n be_v admit_v if_o as_o you_o presume_v wherein_o they_o general_o consent_v they_o have_v be_v all_o guide_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n andradius_fw-la do_v not_o only_o say_v so_o but_o give_v good_a reason_n for_o it_o the_o literal_a sense_n of_o scripture_n say_v he_o do_v only_o yield_v argument_n to_o confirm_v point_n of_o religion_n but_o the_o father_n in_o infinite_a stay_v of_o the_o old_a testament_n chief_o do_v leave_v the_o literal_a sense_n and_o follow_v the_o tropological_a or_o allegorical_a sense_n in_o decide_v of_o doctrine_n than_o which_o be_v to_o be_v do_v by_o the_o literal_a sense_n what_o help_n shall_v we_o have_v from_o the_o consent_n of_o father_n who_o very_o seldom_o give_v the_o literal_a sense_n another_o reason_n he_o give_v that_o the_o father_n in_o give_v the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n have_v give_v very_o diverse_a sense_n and_o unlike_o one_o to_o another_o where_o then_o shall_v we_o find_v that_o general_a and_o uniform_a consent_n that_o you_o speak_v of_o second_o the_o spirit_n of_o all_o truth_n neither_o guide_v the_o whole_a church_n nor_o any_o member_n thereof_o otherwise_o or_o by_o any_o other_o instinct_n then_o by_o &_o from_o the_o holy_a scripture_n whereby_o every_o spirit_n be_v to_o be_v try_v so_o far_o then_o as_o the_o father_n either_o several_o or_o joint_o do_v accord_n with_o the_o manifest_a truth_n of_o scripture_n we_o follow_v they_o without_o doubt_v whatsoever_o they_o deliver_v swerve_v manifest_o from_o the_o scripture_n we_o leave_v what_o they_o have_v probable_o speak_v we_o receive_v as_o probable_a always_o reverence_v their_o antiquity_n gift_n and_o labour_n but_o not_o account_v their_o judgement_n the_o rule_n of_o our_o faith_n three_o you_o much_o abuse_v s._n augustine_n in_o draw_v his_o word_n which_o yet_o serve_v not_o your_o turn_n from_o his_o meaning_n 7._o lib._n 3._o cap._n 7._o manifest_o set_v down_o in_o other_o place_n depeccat_fw-la merit_n &_o remiss_a have_v before_o allege_v against_o the_o pelagian_n cyprian_a &_o jerome_n he_o add_v this_o caveat_n i_o have_v not_o recite_v these_o thing_n to_o any_o such_o end_n as_o if_o we_o lean_v to_o the_o sentence_n of_o any_o disputer_n whatsoever_o they_o be_v as_o to_o canonical_a authority_n but_o that_o
10_o vers_fw-la 10_o a_o decree_n it_o shall_v not_o stand_v the_o king_n of_o the_o earth_n stand_v up_o and_o the_o ruler_n take_v council_n together_o against_o the_o lord_n and_o against_o 2._o psal_n 2._o 2._o his_o christ_n not_o only_o tyrant_n without_o the_o church_n but_o even_o within_o the_o site_n of_o the_o church_n those_o that_o spring_a out_o of_o the_o church_n usurp_v tyranny_n over_o the_o church_n and_o against_o the_o lord_n christ_n do_v make_v their_o decree_n with_o a_o common_a consent_n that_o if_o any_o man_n confess_v christ_n he_o shall_v be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n 22._o joh._n 9_o 22._o and_o have_v obtain_v power_n to_o sit_v in_o man_n conscience_n oppress_v they_o by_o pretence_n of_o sacred_a authority_n to_o make_v rule_n of_o faith_n as_o high_a priest_n and_o pharisee_n deal_v with_o their_o officer_n send_v to_o apprehend_v christ_n do_v any_o of_o the_o ruler_n 49_o joh._n 7._o 48_o ver_fw-la 49_o or_o of_o the_o pharisee_n say_v they_o believe_v in_o he_o they_o make_v show_v i_o grant_v to_o square_v their_o faith_n by_o the_o law_n but_o with_o great_a craft_n they_o arrogate_v to_o themselves_o that_o they_o only_o know_v the_o law_n this_o people_n say_v they_o which_o know_v not_o the_o law_n be_v accurse_v if_o any_o man_n teach_v or_o believe_v otherwise_o then_o please_v they_o forsooth_o they_o know_v not_o the_o law_n these_o rabbi_n challenge_v only_o to_o themselves_o that_o they_o only_o have_v the_o form_n of_o knowledge_n and_o truth_n in_o the_o law_n that_o they_o must_v be_v the_o guide_v of_o the_o blind_a forsooth_o they_o only_o have_v eye_n all_o other_o be_v blind_a this_o be_v your_o popish_a unity_n these_o be_v your_o infallible_a judge_n for_o the_o expound_v of_o the_o scripture_n you_o first_o devise_v a_o form_n of_o faith_n most_o serviceable_a to_o your_o idle_a belly_n your_o bishop_n mitre_n your_o cardinal_n hat_n your_o pope_n triple_a crown_n they_o you_o cospire_v upon_o a_o prescription_n to_o have_v in_o your_o hand_n the_o only_a command_n of_o scripture_n and_o their_o sense_n and_o exposition_n and_o for_o preservation_n of_o this_o your_o tyranny_n and_o to_o secure_v the_o hope_n of_o your_o conspiracy_n you_o reduce_v all_o to_o the_o pope_n breast_n and_o chair_n who_o be_v not_o without_o the_o devil_n wisdom_n not_o to_o be_v divide_v against_o himself_o and_o so_o how_o fallible_a soever_o your_o judge_n be_v to_o be_v deceive_v himself_o and_o to_o deceive_v other_o that_o he_o before_o they_o and_o they_o after_o he_o may_v tumble_v down_o into_o the_o bottomless_a pit_n of_o hell_n by_o hy_z heap_n yet_o you_o be_v sure_o he_o will_v never_o fail_v you_o now_o sure_o this_o be_v a_o bless_a unity_n for_o which_o you_o be_v so_o much_o behold_v to_o your_o infallible_a judge_n but_o be_v it_o true_a that_o you_o boast_v of_o that_o by_o reason_n you_o acknowledge_v one_o infallible_a judge_n for_o the_o expound_v of_o the_o scripture_n you_o keep_v all_o one_o and_o the_o same_o catholic_a throughout_o the_o world_n i_o will_v not_o spend_v time_n in_o rip_v up_o the_o infinite_a dissension_n that_o be_v among_o your_o school_n tribe_n lest_o you_o shist_o off_o and_o say_v that_o their_o dislention_n be_v in_o other_o thing_n and_o not_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n the_o true_a doctrine_n of_o original_a sin_n be_v a_o matter_n of_o faith_n not_o only_o in_o those_o remote_a point_n 1._o that_o there_o be_v original_a sin_n 2._o that_o by_o propagation_n it_o be_v spread_v over_o all_o mankind_n from_o adam_n 3._o that_o the_o effect_n thereof_o be_v all_o the_o calamity_n which_o continual_o wait_v upon_o man_n life_n which_o be_v the_o point_n whereof_o as_o be_v certain_a 50._o defen_n fid_fw-we trid._n lib._n 50._o clear_a the_o church_n as_o andradius_fw-la say_v have_v give_v her_o sentence_n quod_fw-la universo_fw-la mortalium_fw-la generi_fw-la naturae_fw-la necessitate_v insidet_fw-la &_o cum_fw-la quo_fw-la omnes_fw-la illas_fw-la calamitates_fw-la hausimus_fw-la quibus_fw-la hominum_fw-la vit_fw-mi a_o continenter_fw-la premitur_fw-la that_o by_o necessity_n of_o nature_n it_o cleave_v to_o all_o mankind_n wherewithal_o we_o have_v draw_v all_o those_o calamity_n wherewith_o man_n life_n be_v continual_o press_v but_o chief_o in_o discern_v and_o define_v what_o original_a sin_n be_v and_o wherein_o it_o do_v consist_v to_o show_v you_o one_o catholic_a faith_n in_o this_o point_n i_o will_v not_o reckon_v up_o the_o sundry_a opinion_n of_o original_a sin_n whereof_o yourselves_o as_o yet_o can_v never_o agree_v i_o will_v take_v the_o confession_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n for_o thus_o they_o say_v inter_fw-la 1._o sess_n 5._o decret_a 1._o pluri●a_fw-la mala_fw-la quibus_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la his_fw-la nostris_fw-la temporibus_fw-la perturbatur_fw-la eriam_fw-la de_fw-la peccato_fw-la originali_fw-la eiusque_fw-la remedio_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la vetera_fw-la sedetiam_fw-la nova_fw-la dissidia_fw-la excitanit●i_fw-la among_o many_o evil_n wherewith_o the_o church_n of_o god_n in_o these_o our_o time_n be_v trouble_v the_o devil_n have_v raise_v up_o not_o only_o old_a but_o new_a dissension_n about_o original_a sin_n and_o the_o remedy_n thereof_o be_v your_o church_n destitute_a of_o such_o a_o infallible_a judge_n for_o the_o expound_v of_o scripture_n until_o the_o late_a council_n of_o trent_n if_o it_o be_v your_o infallible_a judge_n be_v very_o young_a yet_o you_o see_v for_o all_o your_o infallible_a judge_n both_o of_o old_a and_o until_o and_o in_o the_o time_n of_o that_o council_n your_o church_n be_v trouble_v with_o many_o dissension_n both_o about_o original_a sin_n and_o the_o remedy_n thereof_o which_o i_o trow_v you_o will_v not_o deny_v to_o be_v point_n of_o the_o catholic_a faith_n andradius_fw-la after_o this_o council_n confess_v no_o less_o ita_fw-la peccati_fw-la huius_fw-la immanissioni_fw-la natura_fw-la 5._o defence_n fid_fw-we trid._n lib._n 5._o latet_fw-la &_o atrocissimi_fw-la syderis_n omne_fw-la populantis_fw-la ratio_fw-la est_fw-la innoluta_fw-la ut_fw-la nulla_fw-la in_o re_fw-la sit_fw-la doctorum_fw-la hominum_fw-la mator_fw-la varietas_fw-la &_o concertatio_fw-la i._o the_o nature_n of_o this_o most_o monstrous_a &_o heinous_a sin_n that_o make_v havoc_n of_o all_o be_v so_o intricate_a that_o about_o no_o point_n there_o be_v great_a variety_n and_o contention_n among_o learned_a man_n whereunto_o he_o join_v another_o question_n no_o less_o controvert_v as_o he_o say_v among_o your_o excellent_a wit_n to_o wit_n how_o original_a sin_n which_o he_o call_v tetrun_v &_o immane_a facinus_fw-la a_o foul_a and_o monstrous_a wickedness_n can_v cleave_v unto_o little_a child_n that_o scarce_o live_v to_o see_v the_o light_n nor_o ever_o have_v any_o power_n to_o will_n but_o perhaps_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n make_v a_o end_n of_o these_o dissension_n and_o so_o expound_v the_o scripture_n that_o now_o you_o have_v but_o one_o and_o the_o same_o catholic_a faith_n throughout_o all_o the_o world_n in_o this_o point_n no_o very_o if_o andradius_fw-la be_v privy_a to_o the_o counsel_n meaning_n for_o he_o affirm_v that_o the_o controversy_n which_o the_o ancient_n have_v about_o the_o true_a definition_n thereof_o have_v not_o yet_o be_v ullius_fw-la concilij_fw-la authoritate_fw-la sedata_fw-la appease_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o no_o council_n &_o therefore_o free_a for_o every_o man_n to_o hold_v what_o opinion_n he_o like_v best_o of_o this_o controversy_n not_o sufficient_o enlighten_v by_o the_o church_n wherefore_o except_o your_o catholic_a faith_n in_o this_o point_n be_v quot_fw-la capita_fw-la tot_fw-la sensus_fw-la how_o many_o head_n so_o many_o opinion_n so_o that_o your_o infinite_a dissent_n may_v be_v allow_v for_o consent_n and_o your_o many_o and_o discord_v opinion_n may_v go_v for_o one_o and_o the_o same_o catholic_a faith_n in_o this_o great_a point_n of_o faith_n you_o have_v either_o no_o faith_n or_o a_o faith_n of_o many_o fashion_n variable_a according_a to_o the_o forge_n it_o come_v out_o of_o in_o this_o fundamental_a principle_n the_o discovery_n i_o mean_v of_o original_a sin_n to_o be_v as_o the_o apostle_n call_v it_o the_o flesh_n wherein_o dwell_v no_o good_a 20._o rom._n 7._o 18._o verse_n 20._o thing_n that_o sin_n that_o dwell_v in_o we_o wherewith_o we_o be_v so_o yoke_v that_o it_o be_v always_o present_a with_o we_o a_o law_n in_o our_o member_n rebel_a against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o mind_n and_o lead_v we_o captive_a to_o the_o 21._o verse_n 21._o law_n of_o sin_n that_o be_v in_o our_o member_n which_o until_o it_o be_v know_v and_o 23._o verse_n 23._o discern_v even_o concupiscence_n condemn_v in_o the_o 7._o verse_n 7._o law_n be_v not_o know_v to_o be_v sin_n when_o it_o be_v know_v it_o make_v we_o cry_v out_o and_o bewail_v our_o misery_n and_o to_o confess_v with_o david_n 24._o vers_fw-la 24._o behold_v i_o be_v bear_v in_o iniquity_n
and_o in_o sin_n have_v my_o mother_n conceive_v i_o it_o convince_v that_o all_o the_o frame_n of_o the_o thought_n of_o 5._o psal_n 51._o 5._o man_n heart_n be_v only_o evil_a continual_o that_o in_o we_o that_o be_v in_o our_o flesh_n dwell_v no_o good_a thing_n it_o prove_v we_o to_o be_v dead_a in_o trespass_n and_o sin_n and_o therefore_o to_o be_v the_o child_n of_o wrath_n whereby_o we_o be_v strip_v of_o all_o conceit_n of_o free_a will_n of_o all_o presumption_n 5._o gen._n 6._o 5._o of_o our_o own_o righteousness_n and_o be_v the_o most_o universal_a schoolmaster_n to_o lead_v all_o man_n unto_o christ_n in_o this_o so_o high_a a_o principle_n of_o faith_n i_o say_v your_o church_n and_o his_o child_n have_v either_o no_o faith_n at_o all_o or_o a_o faith_n of_o many_o colour_n and_o many_o 3._o eph._n 2._o 1._o 3._o shape_n notwithstanding_o your_o infallible_a judge_n boast_v no_o long_o of_o your_o one_o and_o the_o same_o cutholike_a faith_n in_o all_o the_o world_n your_o vain_a and_o foolish_a contumely_n which_o you_o cast_v upon_o the_o protestant_n that_o for_o trial_n of_o the_o scripture_n they_o repair_v to_o the_o spirit_n and_o for_o trial_n of_o the_o spirit_n post_v back_o again_o to_o the_o scripture_n and_o sorunne_v round_o from_o the_o scripture_n to_o the_o spirit_n and_o from_o the_o spirit_n to_o the_o scripture_n world_n without_o end_n bewray_v in_o you_o great_a ignorance_n of_o our_o doctrine_n for_o we_o divide_v not_o the_o spirit_n from_o the_o scripture_n nor_o the_o scripture_n from_o the_o spirit_n that_o we_o shall_v be_v fain_o to_o run_v or_o go_v from_o the_o one_o to_o the_o other_o only_o in_o the_o scripture_n we_o hear_v or_o learn_v of_o the_o spirit_n whatsoever_o we_o know_v in_o the_o scripture_n we_o know_v it_o by_o the_o teach_n of_o god_n spirit_n that_o speak_v in_o they_o whatsoever_o we_o learn_v of_o the_o spirit_n we_o learn_v it_o by_o and_o out_o of_o the_o scripture_n when_o we_o repair_v to_o the_o sripture_n we_o repair_v to_o the_o spirit_n and_o when_o we_o go_v to_o inquire_v of_o the_o spirit_n we_o go_v to_o the_o scripture_n if_o the_o god_n of_o this_o world_n have_v not_o blind_v your_o eye_n that_o the_o light_n of_o this_o truth_n can_v shine_v unto_o you_o you_o will_v never_o have_v upbraid_v we_o with_o post_v to_o and_o fro_o and_o run_v round_o but_o because_o you_o tell_v we_o of_o round_n i_o pray_v you_o see_v what_o round_n your_o selire_n make_v in_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n of_o great_a consequence_n in_o all_o your_o religion_n you_o give_v out_o this_o conclusion_n as_o a_o article_n subesse_fw-la ro●●no_fw-la po●tifici_fw-la omni_fw-la creaturae_fw-la est_fw-la sactam_fw-la extr._n come_v de_fw-fr ma._n ior_fw-fr &_o c._n obed_a ●nam_fw-la sactam_fw-la de_fw-fr necessitate_v salutis_fw-la to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o pope_n of_o ro●●e_n be_v n●cessaerie_n to_o salvation_n for_o every_o creature_n we_o require_v you_o to_o prove_v it_o you_o allege_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n we_o yet_o ask_v for_o proof_n you_o bring_v we_o tue_fw-la peirus_n &_o super_fw-la have_v petram_fw-la etc._n etc._n thou_o be_v peter_n and_o upon_o this_o rock_n i_o will_v build_v my_o church_n &_o tibi_fw-la dabo_fw-la clave_n to_o thou_o i_o will_v give_v the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n &_o pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la i_o as_o feed_v my_o sheep_n feed_v my_o lamb_n we_o tell_v you_o peter_n be_v one_o stone_n in_o the_o build_n but_o no_o rock_n or_o if_o you_o will_v needs_o have_v a_o rock_n his_o confession_n or_o christ_n who_o heconfess_v be_v the_o rock_n or_o foundation_n whereon_o the_o church_n be_v build_v we_o tell_v you_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o peter_n not_o alone_o but_o to_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o he_o with_o they_o command_v to_o feed_v sheep_n and_o lamb_n and_o further_o whatsoever_o be_v give_v to_o peter_n extend_v not_o to_o the_o pope_n who_o be_v not_o peter_n you_o say_v that_o peter_n receive_v those_o honour_n for_o himself_o and_o his_o successor_n and_o that_o the_o church_n be_v build_v upon_o he_o and_o they_o as_o a_o rock_n and_o that_o he_o for_o himself_o &_o his_o successor_n receive_v the_o key_n and_o leave_v they_o to_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n who_o now_o be_v shepherd_n over_o sheep_n and_o lamb_n &_o all_o this_o you_o will_v prove_v by_o the_o scripture_n we_o require_v you_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o scripture_n have_v this_o sense_n you_o fetch_v your_o proof_n from_o the_o father_n we_o bring_v the_o father_n as_o clear_o yea_o more_fw-it clear_o for_o our_o interpretation_n than_o you_o can_v for_o afric_n council_n nicen._n conat_fw-la afric_n you_o you_o thrust_v on_o forward_o to_o the_o counsel_n we_o bring_v you_o the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n to_o make_v the_o pope_n no_o more_o they_o a_o peer_n among_o other_o patriarch_n yea_o to_o cut_v he_o off_o from_o meddle_v out_o of_o his_o diocese_n now_o you_o post_v to_o counsel_n confirm_v by_o the_o head_n that_o be_v the_o pope_n who_o either_o with_o conncel_n or_o without_o you_o make_v your_o only_a infallible_a judge_n be_v you_o now_o where_o you_o begin_v do_v you_o thus_o dance_v in_o a_o round_n and_o tell_v we_o of_o round_n the_o pope_n be_v head_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n who_o say_v so_o the_o scripture_n who_o shall_v interpret_v the_o scripture_n the_o father_n father_n not_o agree_v who_o shall_v judge_v between_o they_o counsel_n counsel_n agree_v not_o who_o then_o shall_v strike_v the_o stroke_n the_o pope_n and_o so_o the_o pope_n be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n because_o the_o pope_n will_v be_v so_o with_o these_o round_v you_o have_v make_v giddy_a and_o brai_fw-fr nesicke_a innumerable_a poor_a soul_n god_n in_o his_o mercy_n establish_v their_o heart_n with_o grace_n that_o their_o eye_n may_v see_v the_o pit_n before_o they_o fall_v into_o it_o now_o i_o pray_v you_o what_o be_v those_o matter_n of_o faith_n wherein_o the_o protestant_n have_v such_o mortal_a dissension_n without_o any_o hope_n of_o agreement_n they_o be_v many_o you_o say_v reckon_v they_o that_o we_o see_v how_o many_o they_o be_v the_o descend_v of_o christ_n into_o hell_n and_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o archbishop_n and_o bishop_n be_v the_o question_n about_o archbishop_n &_o bishop_n a_o matter_n of_o faith_n among_o papist_n it_o may_v well_o be_v so_o who_o hold_v the_o pope_n supremacy_n for_o the_o first_o and_o chief_a yea_o in_o effect_n for_o all_o the_o article_n of_o their_o faith_n but_o sure_o protestant_n hold_v it_o only_o for_o a_o matter_n of_o order_n appertain_v to_o the_o external_a government_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v far_o from_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n your_o many_o matter_n of_o faith_n then_o be_v come_v to_o but_o one_o and_o that_o such_o a_o one_o as_o in_o ancient_a time_n be_v no_o article_n of_o faith_n at_o all_o in_o your_o roman_a creed_n no_o nor_o yet_o receive_v in_o the_o east_n church_n symboli_fw-la in._n expos_fw-la symboli_fw-la as_o ruffinus_n affirm_v sci●naun_n est_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o ecclesiae_fw-la romana_fw-la symbolo_fw-la non_fw-la habetur_fw-la additum_fw-la we_o must_v know_v that_o it_o be_v not_o find_v add_v in_o the_o creed_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n neither_o be_v the_o cause_n receive_v among_o the_o east_n church_n and_o be_v receive_v there_o 99_o epist_n 99_o be_v little_a certainty_n of_o the_o sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o it_o ruffinus_n take_v it_o to_o be_v all_o one_o with_o sepultus_fw-la est_fw-la he_o be_v bury_v augustine_n cap._n de_fw-fr genes_n ad_fw-la lit._n lib._n 12._o cap._n as_o be_v afore_o show_v deny_v that_o abraham_n bosom_n be_v any_o part_n of_o holl_o and_o else_o where_o confess_v that_o never_o yet_o find_v that_o it_o be_v call_v hell_n where_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o righteous_a do_v rest_n and_o so_o little_a light_n can_v be_v find_v of_o any_o such_o conceit_n as_o papist_n 5._o de_fw-fr christi_fw-la anima_fw-la lib._n 4._o cap._n 5._o have_v of_o christ_n descend_v into_o hell_n that_o bellarmine_n say_v non_fw-la est_fw-la necessaria_fw-la presentia_fw-la animae_fw-la christi_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o presence_n of_o christ_n soul_n to_o inlighten_v the_o father_n with_o the_o divine_a vision_n of_o he_o be_v not_o necessary_a yet_o it_o seem_v to_o be_v of_o congruitio_fw-la that_o it_o shall_v be_v present_a while_n that_o be_v in_o do_v he_o make_v it_o not_o of_o necessity_n but_o of_o congruity_n and_o that_o but_o in_o seem_v neither_o this_o be_v as_o touch_v the_o sense_n but_o a_o weak_a matter_n of_o faith_n to_o object_n unto_o we_o that_o we_o dissent_v about_o it_o for_o we_o dissent_v not_o about_o the_o word_n of_o the_o article_n but_o receive_v it_o we_o be_v