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fulke_n cont._n faust._n li._n 13._o ca._n 13._o stapleton_n fulke_n stapleton_n fulke_n stapleton_n fulke_o stapleton_n fulke_n stapleton_n fulke_n stapleton_n fulke_n stapleton_n fulke_n ☜_o stapleton_n fulke_n stapleton_n fulke_n stapleton_n fulke_n stapleton_n fulke_o stapleton_n fulke_n cap._n 2._o stapleton_n fulke_n stapleton_n fulke_n stapleton_n fulke_n fulke_n 2._o th._n 2._o luk._n 10._o 1._o io._n 4._o mat._n 18._o exâ—_n 10._o joel._n 1_o eph._n 4._o tert._n li._n 4._o cont_n mart._n math._n 15._o james_n 5._o 1._o john_n 4._o act_n 17._o lib._n 4._o cap._n 26._o de_fw-fr verâ—_n sap_n martial_a fulke_n in_o mark._n h_n 14._o adver_n mar._n li._n 30._o martial_a fulke_n pro_fw-la clu._n pro_fw-la cel._n in_o ant._n martial_a fulke_n marshal_n fulke_n eph._n 6._o mar._n 1._o john_n 1._o martial_a fulke_n martial_a fulke_n deut._n 12._o martial_a fulke_n mark_n 6._o marshal_n fulke_n rom._n 3._o 〈◊〉_d 28._o act._n 15._o v._n 9_o marshal_n fulke_n de_fw-fr obis_fw-la theod._n heb._n 1_o