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primate_n challenge_n primate_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o jesuite_n challenge_n from_o mat._n 19_o 8._o from_o the_o beginning_n it_o be_v not_o so_o neither_o apostolical_a council_n to_o prescribe_v against_o the_o infection_n of_o seducer_n creep_v in_o at_o unaware_o earnest_o to_o contend_v for_o the_o faith_n which_o be_v first_o
by_o miracle_n also_o as_o we_o may_v see_v in_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n 11._o apostle_n act._n 8._o 10._o 11._o where_o the_o dweller_n in_o phrygia_n and_o pamphilia_n in_o egypt_n and_o in_o the_o part_n of_o lybia_n about_o cyrene_n and_o stranger_n of_o rome_n jew_n and_o proselyte_n etc._n etc._n do_v hear_v the_o apostle_n speak_v in_o their_o tongue_n the_o wonderful_a work_n of_o god_n whereunto_o s._n chrysostome_n agree_v affirm_v more_o than_o once_o the_o latin_a tongue_n to_o have_v be_v impart_v by_o miracle_n to_o the_o apostle_n utentes_fw-la apostle_n chrysost_n in_o epist_n ad_fw-la cor._n 1._o cap._n 14._o homil_n 35._o idem_fw-la persarum_fw-la romanorum_n indorum_fw-la &_o multorum_fw-la praetereà _fw-la linguis_fw-la spiritu_fw-la susurrante_fw-la loquebatur_fw-la atque_fw-la id_fw-la munus_fw-la munus_fw-la tum_fw-la vocabatur_fw-la linguarum_fw-la eâ—_n paulo_fw-la post_fw-la erant_fw-la enim_fw-la jam_fw-la olim_fw-la qui_fw-la precandi_fw-la donum_fw-la &_o linguae_fw-la conjunctum_fw-la haberent_fw-la multi_fw-la &_o precabantur_fw-la quidem_fw-la &_o linguâ_fw-la sonabant_fw-la vel_fw-la persarum_fw-la vel_fw-la romana_fw-la utentes_fw-la neither_o say_v the_o jesuite_n be_v it_o bring_v in_o by_o we_o but_o by_o our_o answerer_n himself_o confess_v to_o have_v be_v from_o the_o beginning_n 23._o beginning_n reply_v pag._n 23._o for_o this_o your_o second_o mistake_n the_o learned_a primate_n say_v that_o the_o latin_a service_n be_v use_v from_o the_o begin_n in_o those_o country_n and_o who_o doubt_v of_o it_o but_o be_v it_o not_o also_o understand_v if_o the_o priest_n have_v then_o latin_a tongue_n have_v not_o the_o people_n latin_a ear_n lectitant_fw-la ear_n azor._n je_v instit_fw-la mor._n par_fw-fr 1._o lib._n 8._o cap._n 26._o nos_fw-la tan_o en_fw-fr libeâ—ter_n fatemur_fw-la tunc_fw-la temporis_fw-la laicos_fw-la in_o scripturarum_fw-la lectione_n fuisse_fw-la versatos_fw-la quia_fw-la sacra_fw-la 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instruction_n remain_v among_o you_o but_o for_o many_o other_o church_n as_o ireland_n the_o indies_n language_n indies_n the_o jesuite_n argue_v that_o latin_a be_v not_o common_o understand_v in_o france_n and_o spain_n because_o they_o have_v their_o proper_a language_n etc._n etc._n who_o bring_v in_o those_o preparation_n to_o darkness_n among_o they_o but_o your_o babâ—ll_n 〈◊〉_d not_o indr_v light_n lest_o your_o work_n of_o darkness_n may_v be_v detect_v or_o overthrow_v and_o do_v not_o your_o mistake_n lie_v in_o your_o way_n it_o be_v true_a that_o by_o your_o negligence_n it_o have_v continue_v in_o some_o church_n where_o it_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v change_v and_o by_o your_o impudencye_n it_o have_v be_v intrude_v upon_o other_o where_o it_o ought_v not_o to_o have_v be_v admit_v three_o say_v the_o jesuite_n the_o word_n follow_v which_o hinder_v the_o edify_n of_o babel_n itself_o and_o scatter_v her_o bvilder_n be_v of_o the_o like_a nature_n for_o it_o be_v not_o 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st._n chrysostome_n affirm_v secabatur_fw-la affirm_v chrysost_n in_o epist_n ad_fw-la cor._n 1._o cap._n 14._o homil_n 35._o cum_fw-la nâ—â—ris_fw-la extrâ—â—retur_fw-la una_fw-la lingua_fw-la in_o multas_fw-la secabatur_fw-la &_o josephus_n do_v full_o declare_v where_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o place_n of_o the_o tower_n be_v call_v babel_n or_o confusion_n not_o for_o the_o multitude_n of_o tongue_n which_o be_v then_o give_v but_o propter_fw-la confusam_fw-la linguam_fw-la quae_fw-la priùs_fw-la omnibus_fw-la ex_fw-la aequo_fw-la clara_fw-la fuerat_fw-la because_o that_o tongue_n be_v confound_v which_o before_o be_v indifferent_o understand_v of_o all_o the_o people_n babel_n people_n josephus_n l._n 1._o antiq._n cap._n 5._o locu_fw-la vero_fw-la turris_fw-la nunc_fw-la babylon_n voco_fw-la propter_fw-la confusam_fw-la &c_n &c_n name_n hebreâ—_n confusionem_fw-la nominant_fw-la babel_n which_o your_o vulgar_a biâ—le_n express_v venite_fw-la igitur_fw-la descendamus_fw-la &_o 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corundem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d novoâ—_fw-mi direâ—â—â—sque_fw-la indidit_fw-la habitus_fw-la juxta_fw-la vanarum_fw-la linguaâ—â—â—_n genera_fw-la 〈◊〉_d distributa_fw-la ita_fw-la ut_fw-la statim_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ilâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d promptum_fw-la expeditumque_fw-la ac_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d illius_fw-la sermonis_fw-la qui_fw-la 〈…〉_o quare_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d confusionis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d
sed_fw-la iâ—_n praescripto_fw-la legis_fw-la in_fw-la prophetarum_fw-la praedictis_fw-la in_fw-la psalmorum_fw-la cantibus_fw-la in_fw-la ipsius_fw-la pastoris_fw-la vocibus_fw-la in_fw-la evangeliâ—â—aâ—um_fw-la praedicationâ—bus_fw-la &_o laboribus_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la in_fw-la omnibus_fw-la canonicis_fw-la sanctâ—â—um_fw-la librâ—â—â—m_fw-la authoritatibus_fw-la how_o fair_o this_o heretic_n augustine_n oppose_v this_o catholic_a jesuite_n and_o further_o the_o same_o father_n in_o a_o point_n of_o controversy_n open_o profess_v we_o ought_v not_o to_o depart_v from_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o divine_a scripture_n to_o which_o alone_o in_o this_o matter_n faith_n be_v to_o be_v give_v debemus_fw-la give_v aug_n de_fw-fr gen._n ad_fw-la liâ—_n l._n 12._o c._n 33._o ab_fw-la authoritate_fw-la divinarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la quibus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d lis_fw-fr de_fw-fr hac_fw-la râ—_n fides_fw-la habenda_fw-la est_fw-la recedere_fw-la non_fw-la debemus_fw-la and_o before_o this_o heretic_n irenaus_n a_o more_o ancient_a one_o in_o the_o same_o book_n which_o the_o jesuite_n direct_v we_o to_o sâ—e_v agree_v with_o we_o we_o have_v by_o none_o other_o know_n say_v he_o to_o obtain_v salvation_n but_o by_o those_o that_o bring_v the_o gospel_n to_o we_o for_o what_o first_o they_o preach_v that_o by_o the_o will_n of_o god_n they_o deliver_v to_o we_o in_o the_o scripture_n that_o in_o aftertime_n it_o may_v be_v the_o foundation_n and_o pillar_n of_o our_o faith_n 〈◊〉_d faith_n irenaeus_n l._n 3._o â—â—_o non_fw-la per_fw-la 〈◊〉_d dispositionem_fw-la nostrae_fw-la salâ—tis_fw-la cognovimus_fw-la quam_fw-la pereos_fw-la per_fw-la quos_fw-la evangelium_fw-la perâ—â—nit_fw-la ad_fw-la â—oâ—_n quod_fw-la quidem_fw-la â—unâ—_n praeconiaveâ—â—nt_fw-la postea_fw-la 〈◊〉_d per_fw-la dei_fw-la 〈◊〉_d in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d crunt_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o this_o which_o have_v be_v speak_v we_o find_v our_o appeal_v to_o scripture_n alone_o as_o the_o absolute_a rule_n of_o faith_n not_o to_o be_v the_o only_a practice_n of_o heretic_n as_o the_o jesuite_n will_v have_v it_o but_o of_o the_o most_o catholic_n father_n themselves_o &_o indeed_o so_o uncontrolled_a a_o rule_n it_o be_v in_o point_n of_o faith_n to_o be_v judge_v by_o god_n in_o the_o scripture_n that_o never_o any_o heretic_n do_v deny_v the_o same_o till_o papist_n tyrannize_v over_o the_o truth_n bring_v in_o new_a faith_n which_o can_v not_o be_v justify_v by_o the_o old_a rule_n and_o as_o all_o acknowledge_v this_o rule_n most_o absolutes_n so_o heretic_n as_o well_o as_o catholic_n use_v to_o justify_v their_o opinion_n by_o other_o mean_n also_o it_o be_v probable_a that_o eâ—nomius_n be_v more_o behold_v to_o his_o logic_n then_o scripture_n for_o he_o be_v paint_v out_o by_o alphonsus_n de_fw-fr castro_n as_o a_o most_o cunning_a sophister_n callidissimus_fw-la sophister_n alphons_n castro_n adv_o haer._n l._n 5._o de_fw-fr deo_fw-la haer_fw-mi 10._o eunomius_n artis_fw-la 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for_o as_o i_o have_v before_o declare_v that_o be_v new_a in_o religion_n which_o be_v not_o most_o ancient_a 194_o pag._n 19â—_n 194_o yet_o i_o will_v wait_v upon_o his_o repetition_n a_o little_a and_o show_v that_o if_o the_o jesuite_n can_v derive_v his_o religion_n further_o than_o from_o the_o father_n the_o tradition_n whereupon_o it_o be_v build_v be_v then_o but_o humane_a &_o so_o a_o new_a thing_n even_o novelty_n itself_o and_o therefore_o tâ—rtullian_n tell_v we_o that_o be_v most_o true_a which_o be_v most_o ancient_a that_o most_o ancient_a which_o be_v from_o the_o beginning_n that_o from_o the_o beginning_n which_o from_o the_o apostle_n apostolic_a teâ—â—â—l_fw-it l._n 4_o aâ—_n mâ—rc_n id_fw-la veriâ—â—_n quod_fw-la â—râ—â—s_fw-la id_fw-la priâ—â—_n quod_fw-la est_fw-la ab_fw-la initio_fw-la ab_fw-la initio_fw-la quod_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolic_a how_o convince_a a_o argument_n than_o have_v the_o jesuite_n produce_v for_o his_o purpose_n will_v he_o find_v a_o 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that_o measure_v novelty_n as_o the_o jesuite_n do_v viderint_fw-la quibus_fw-la novum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la sibi_fw-la vetus_fw-la est_fw-la let_v they_o behold_v to_o who_o that_o be_v new_a which_o they_o apprehend_v as_o ancient_a cit_fw-la ancient_a tertul._n loco_fw-la ult._n cit_fw-la suppose_v that_o present_a heretic_n many_o time_n conclude_v that_o for_o ancient_a which_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n distaste_v as_o novelty_n beside_o if_o the_o jesuite_n collect_v aright_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v in_o many_o thing_n define_v for_o novelty_n against_o