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A13235 A defence of the Appendix. Or A reply to certaine authorities alleaged in answere to a catalogue of Catholike professors, called, An appendix to the Antitdote VVherein also the booke fondly intituled, The Fisher catched in his owne net, is censured. And the sleights of D. Featly, and D. VVhite in shifting off the catalogue of their owne professors, which they vndertooke to shew, are plainly discouered. By L.D. To the Rt. VVorshipfull Syr Humphry Lynde. L. D., fl. 1624.; Sweet, John, 1570-1632, attributed name. 1624 (1624) STC 23528; ESTC S120948 43,888 74

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s._n hierome_n and_o eusebius_n acknowledge_v yea_o s._n irenaeus_n lib._n 3._o advers_a haeres_fw-la prope_fw-la finem_fw-la do_v allege_v a_o sentence_n of_o this_o epistle_n yet_o to_o be_v find_v therein_o be_v i_o say_v press_v with_o this_o testimony_n your_o doctor_n in_o his_o defence_n of_o perkins_n pag._n 339._o answer_v in_o these_o word_n i_o say_v plain_o this_o man_n testimony_n be_v nothing_o worth_a because_o he_o be_v of_o little_a judgement_n in_o divinity_n what_o more_o can_v he_o have_v say_v in_o contempt_n of_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n ignatius_n of_o loyola_n but_o your_o grand_a master_n caluin_n yet_o speak_v more_o plain_o in_o his_o institution_n l._n 1._o c._n 14._o §_o 44._o ignatium_fw-la quòd_fw-la obtendunt_fw-la nihil_fw-la naenijs_fw-la illis_fw-la quae_fw-la sub_fw-la ignatij_fw-la nomine_fw-la edita_fw-la sunt_fw-la