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A05223 Dutifull and respective considerations vpon foure seuerall heads of proofe and triall in matters of religion Proposed by the high and mighty prince, Iames King of Great Britayne, France, and Ireland &c. in his late booke of premonition to all christian princes, for clearing his royall person from the imputation of heresy. By a late minister & preacher in England.; Dutifull and respective considerations upon foure severall heads of proofe and triall in matters of religion. Leech, Humphrey, 1571-1629.; Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. aut 1609 (1609) STC 15362.5; ESTC S100271 179,103 260

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great doubt that then arose in the Church to wit whether the obseruation of the ould law of Moyses should be ioyned necessary with the new law of Christ and because they would leaue a patterne for all succeeding ages to follow they determined the matter and thēselues I meane the Apostles and Prelates of that first age decided the doubt by those high wordes of authority taken from the foresaid commission of our Sauiour Visum est spiritui Sāto Nobis it seemeth good vnto the holy Ghost and vs for the Church and the true spirit of the holy Ghost go inseparably togeather in regard of Christ his promise made vnto the Church so that the holy Ghost euer keepeth his residence in her guideth her gouerneth her directeth her and sitteth as President in all her consultations and assēblyes and therefore this vmpiring and determining forme of speach hath euer since beene vsed in the lawfull succession of the said visible Church vntill our daies will be frequented still especially in generall Councels euen vnto the worlds end to put a firme period and full conclusion vnto all controuersies that come in question And the reason is for that the same authority and assistance of the holy Ghost which that first Church had for directing of mens soules vnto their saluation the very self same and none other hath the visible Catholicke Church of our age and hath had in all ages and shall haue in all to come Verum enim non variat It is an ancient prescription and no more ancient then true Gods giftes and graces conferred vpon his Church are without repētance the holy Ghost is euer one and the selfe same spirit of truth in Patriarkes Prophets Apostles Martyrs and other succeding Pastours and Doctors and Christ his promise was not for one age only he shed not his pretious bloud for those of his age alone but for all all were alike neere vnto him all were alike deare vnto him he tooke our nature in generall to saue mankind in generall and therfore the care he had for one age of the Church the same he had for all succeeding ages of the same as well for the last as for the first and this care of his continueth so long as the sunne and the moone endureth 60. This remittance then and reference vnto the Authority of the Church originally proceeded from the Apostles themselues was continually perpetuated by all succeeding ages of the Catholicke Church and therfore as S. Paul in a controuersy of lesser importance writing to the Corinthians about women being veyled in the Church saith to shut vp the dore to all further cōtention that If any man will seeme to be contentious we haue no such custome nor yet the Church of God repressing the contentious man as you see with the Authority and Custome of the Church so did all subsequent Fathers of the orthodox Church whether it were in the priuat writings or in the worlds grand Parlament in Generall Councells in all their conflicts with Hereticks they euer vsed to repell and represse them by one and the selfe same meanes and that was with the authority of the knowne Catholicke Church And looke what sentence they pronounced against thē for their contumacy see what censure they inflicted vpon them for their heresy it remayned good against them and irreuocable it was ratyfied as the law of the Medes and Persians which could not be altered their authority was grounded immediatly vpon those wordes of Verity VVhat soeuer you bynd on earth shall be bound in heauen and the Tribunall of heauen confirmed the authority of the Church vpon earth nay standeth expecting what is done by it vpon earth such is the mysticall dependency betwixt the one and the other such is the mutuall correspondency betwixt the head and his members Christ and his Church Dare then any man hereafter oppose his priuate spirit against the authority of this Church Or will he impudently presume to preferre his owne conceipt and opinion before her publicke tradition 61. Ancient S. Irenaeus who was in manner 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Apostolorum for he liued in the very next age after them writing against the heresies of his dayes and hauing first declared how the primitiue Church was visibly planted by Christ and his Apostles and how it was continued to his time doth then pourtraict out vnto vs discourse at large of the authority sufficiency treasury tradition and absolute perfection of this Church for the repelling of all heresy and deliuering of all truth his wordes are these Tantae igitur ostensiones cùm haec sint c. Wheras these thinges which I haue said are so great demonstrations of the truth we must not yet seeke the truth from others which is easely taken from the Church wheras the Apostles did most fully lay vp in her all thinges belonging to the truth as in a certaine rich treasure-house so as euery man that will may take from thence the liquor or sustenance of life for that is the intrance vnto life euerlasting to belieue the Church all others that flie this way are theeues and murtherers and therfore we must auoid them that are such but with great diligence we must affect those things that are of the Church and from her take the tradition of truth And truly if our contention were but about some small question in Religion yet ought not we to haue recourse vnto the most ancient Churches wherin the Apostles had once bene conuersant and so take from them that which is certaine and cleere for deciding of the question And what if the Apostles had left vnto vs no Scriptures at all had it not bene needfull notwithstanding to follow the order of tradition which they haue left vnto vs to whome they to wit the Apostles had committed those Churches 62. Thus farre S. Irenaeus which I haue of purpose chosen to cite more at large for that it is sufficient alone to disclose his iudgement and the Iudgment of that first age next after the Apostles how farre the authority of the visible vniuersall Church then stretched and was esteemed for especially for clearing soluing and deciding of all doubtes that possibly could arise in religion And the reason there rendred by the same Father is this She is the store-house wherein Christs merits and the Churches treasure is laid vp She is the way of life whereby we may come to eternall life and escape euerlasting death that all are theeues yea murtherers of soules that doe impugne her or seeke other wayes of tryall then her and her tradition from hand to hand That this tradition is sufficient though there were no Scripture That from her and her alone the truth is to be taken and not els where That by her and her authority alone all doubts and questions are to be so ued and decided Can any thing be spoken more effectuall then this Or is there any more playne easy euident
so ordered by the will of God that they minister store of matter vnto Heretickes when I read in Scripture oportet haereses esse there must be heresies which cannot be without Scriptures And this is my former Author his iudgment of the Scriptures wrested and peruerted by seuerall Heretickes in his dayes for maintenance of their seuerall heresies Which being so here is neither certainty nor generality nor facility nor perspicuity nor infallibility in this way of the Scripture barely and nakedly proposed of it selfe alone neither can it euer be inferred by any seeming probable conclusion that the Scripture alone is this infallible way which we do further illustrate by this familiar example obuious vnto euery mans capacity 56. If some rude and vnlearned countreymen repayring vp to the Metropolitan Citty of the kingdome to prosecute some suites in law touching a Farme or house or matter of lesse moment yt these men I say after conference had with their learned counsaile should receaue no other answere nor comfort nor direction of them for further managing of their suites but be remitted by them vnto the body of the law it selfe without any Iudge or Counsailour they being of themselues not able either to read or vnderstand the law much lesse to apply it to their proper cases and peculiar suites would not euery reasonable and conscionable man condemne these lawyers And had not the poore Coūtreymen themselues being vndone by this meanes in their worldly estates iust cause to complayne and cry out against the falsehood and treachery of their Coūsailours And yet behold here in a suit of of suits and matter of greatest moment and importance in the world not in a title or triall of a Farme or house but concerning our interest and right of inheritance vnto the heauenly mansion we are this way worse then thus since the matter is of far greater importance abused deluded betrayed we are promiscuously sent learned vnlearned men women yong old to the body of the Scripture mysticall volume of God his sacred and seauen-fold-sealed book as S. Iohn speakes of the Reuelation Apocal. 5. 1. we must seeke search confer cōpare expound interprete euery man must there be a chooser euery woman an expositor and euery creature must be his owne caruer all must presume of the spirit that they cannot erre all presume to be taught immediatly from God without the ministery of the Church Sola Scripturarum arsest saith S. Hierome against Heretiks of his time quam omnes sibi vēdicant hanc garrula anus hanc delirus senex hāc sophista verbosus hanc vniuersi praesumunt lacerant docent antequam discunt c. Only the art of Scripture is it which euery one challengeth to himselfe this the prating ould wife this the doting old man this the babling Sophist this all of them togeather presume to know and teach and teare in peeces before they learne it So he And this is all the way and ground prescription direction rule and line that our hereticall Sectaries can affoard vs for the guiding of our soules and the grounding of our faith Will any man therefore hereafter that hath but the least care or that can intertaine but one thought either of the present of future wellfarre of his soule rely vpon such false guides blind teachers since this ground of Scripture alone sensed by a priuate spirit was is euer shal be the cōmon ground nay rather desperate shift and refuge of all condemned heresies and hereticks and that purposely that they may auoyd the censure and tribunall of the Church 57. There followeth then the way indeed appointed by God reuealed by the holy-Ghost designed by Christ and proposed by the Catholicks and Catholicke Church and this is the sure easy euident generall and infallible waie indeed which is the vniuersall knowne Catholicke Church in euery age which is perspicuous and notorious easy to be found for that it cannot be hidden it is compared by holy Scripture to a Citty placed vpon a hill as S. Augustine in diuers prolixe Treatises of his doth euidently demonstrate it is a light vpon a candlestick it lighteneth all through the Egiptian darkenes of this worlds schisme and heresy and leades their soules into the way of truth it is that pillar of fire that leadeth all Gods chosen people through the vast and roaring wildernes yea and all the nightes darkenes of this world vnto the promised land of Canaan I meane the heauēly Hierusalem it is generally also figured by the dew that fell vpon the floore as well as vpō the fleece when Gedeon required the miracle to be doubled which was a mysticall representation of the Iewish Synagogue and Christian Congregation implying also that the dew of Gods truth and sauing grace should at last passe from the fleece of the Iewes to the floore of the Gentils and all to teach vs that this Catholick Christian Church should extend to all serue for all learned vnlearned yong ould high low great small for that all sortes sexes ages and conditiōs of people may repaire vnto her receiue her doctrine admit her instructions and directions by the continuall successions of her Bishops Pastors and teachers of euery age And finally this way is a most sure certaine and infallible rule for that Christ hath expresly assured and promised vs that he will be continually with this Church vnto the worlds end that he would send the holy Ghost to instruct direct and induce this Church in omnem veritatem into all truth suggerit vobis omnia quae dixere vobis and it shall suggest vnto you all that I will from heauen speake or notify vnto you It was Christ his promise vnto his Apostles in their persons vnto his Church for euer And lastly the gates of hell which are the gates of errour and heresies shall neuer preuaile against this Church 58. This then to exclude all by-pathes and blind waies of Heretickes is the way indeed this is that rule of faith as Tertullian speaketh instituted by Christ and it is such a rule and so certaine that Nullas habet apud nos quaestiones nisi quaes haereses inserunt quae haereticos saciunt no questions are so much as moued with vs concerning this rule but such as heresies cause and which very questions moued concerning the Church do cause and breed hereticks 59. This Church being once published by our Sauiour and the promises he had made vnto her being once diuulged what followed but that all men presently that had any care of the saluation of their soules flocked vnto her began to lay handfast and houldfast on this way and to haue recourse in all doubts and controuersies vnto the common knowne Catholicke Church of their age for explication and finall decision therof So shall you read Act. 15 6. that the Apostles immediatly after the Ascention of our Sauiour assembled the Church togeather for the detiding of that
proue that this Catholicke visible Church doth not consist of the good and elect only which is another erroneous position of Protestant Religion and proued largely by S. Augustine to haue bene the heresy of the Donatists and Pelagians their bretheren but of good and bad togeather vnto the worlds end and for confirmation thereof he doth produce interpret those Parables vsed by our Sauiour Matth. 3. to wit of the good corne and chaffe in the floore and of the net cast into the sea that brought vp both good and bad fish and lastly of the weedes and good corne commaunded to be permitted to grow togeather Vpon which place S. Leo the first giueth the glosse thus In extremo iudicio sunt quaedam vrenda flammis sunt alia condenda horreis In the last iudgement some things are to be burned with the flames of dānation other thinges are to be gathered into Gods granary All these places and many more both S. Augustine S. Leo many of the Fathers do interprete of the good and bad that are promiscuously mixed in the Church togeather Do our Protestants follow these expositions 57. Thirdly my foresaid Authour goeth yet further for prouing of a third assertion as contrary to the Protestants as they are opposite vnto truth to wit that this publike and visible Church granted once by Protestants themselues to haue bene the true Church could neuer faile or euer fall away to the worlds end For prouing of which assertion he alleageth sundry passages of holy Writ farre different for interpretation from the Protestants sense His wordes be That Church saith he that was once of all Nations he meaneth the Catholicke is it not now Hath it perished They say so that are not in her O impudent voice Is not she because thou art not in her This abominable and detestable voice full of presumption and falsity susteined by no truth illuminated by no wisedome seasoned with no salt vaine temerarious precipitate and pernicious is preuented and refuted by the holy Ghost c. And then doth he cyte seuerall places of Scripture to proue that notwithstanding all exposition and contradiction of Hereticks that the said visible Church bring once collected of all Nations and placed vpon the open hill and mount of this world and conspicuous vnto the eyes of al could neuer possibly vanish away againe or fall frō Christ as Protestants do falsely charge the Mother Romā Church and consequently they would neuer agree to expound these Scriptures as S. Augustine did But whom shall we rather belieue VVhether is a Luther or a Caluin or S. Augustine to be followed Or which Church his or this of the Protestants is likest to go neare the truth and to light vpon the true meaning of the holy Ghost in expoūding these Scriptures For certaine I am their expositions vary and are repugnant one to the other 58. And in this manner might I proceed in disclosing this great Doctor and famous pillar of the Church S. Austine his iudgement for the exposition of Scriptures concerning all controuersies or the most of them betweene the Catholickes and the Protestants at this day wherein the sayd Father is no lesse perspicuous and copious then as if being an eye-witnesse and an eare-witnesse of all poynts now controuerted he had written in these very dayes of sirife amongst vs. And eyther this is or I know not what can be a manifest demonstration that the holy Ghost guided the pen of this worthy Doctor to taxe and prescribe against the manifould heresies of our times As for example touching the doctrine of Purgatory whome Doctor Field out of a fanaticall spirit and spirit of heresie surchargeth and falsely traduceth of heresy what writer of this time can deliuer and set downe his opinion more resolutely then he doth his prouing the same irrefragably both by the allegation and exposition of sundry passages of holy Scripture as namely by those wordes of our Sauiour Matth. 12. It shall not be remitted vnto him eyther in this life or in the next Whereupon this great Doctor inferreth that some sinnes are remitted in the next consequently there must be a Purgatory And so that place of S. Paul 1. Cor. 3. Euery mans worke shal be tryed by the fire of what sort it is S. Augustine doth also apply to proue the same purging fire to remaine for some sinnes or bad workes in the next life And these expositions of Scripture confirming Purgatory deliuered by S. Augustine and oftentimes reiterated in his workes were neuer reprehended by any as false nor the Father taxed as teaching any erroneous doctrine dissonant from the doctrine and beliefe of the Catholicke Church which doubtlesse he could neuer haue escaped had his assertion of Purgatory bene erroneous liuing in the age of S. Ambrose S. Hierome and other learned Fathers who wanted neyther learning nor zeale to haue both matched him and confuted him had he swarued in ought from sound faith and the doctrine of their present Church and consequently Purgatory was then held for no errour or heresy And the like I might aboundantly proue in many other pointes both out of S. Augustine and sundry other of like antiquity learning and sanctity 59. Finally the conclusion of all this mayne Chapter and Treatise of sacred Scriptures must of necessity fall out to be this that not all belieuing of Scriptures nor appealing vnto Scripture nor sensing of Scriptures nor presuming of the spirit is sufficient to make a man a Christian Catholick for that as hath beene formerly noted forth of S. Bernard many men presume of Gods spirit when it is not but their owne spirit or rather the spirit of Sathā and consequently take or rather mistake their owne spirits expositions for the interpretation of the holy Ghost Againe some when they erre in expounding Scriptures are notwithstanding of opinion that they follow Scriptures when indeed they follow their owne errours So S. Augustine obserueth 60. Thirdly others by a peruerse interpretation make of Christs Ghospell mās Ghospell or that which is worse the Diuells Ghospell as S. Hierome noteth and yet all these with the Diuell and all former heretickes pretend to vrge and build vpon Scripture But no meruaile if all these appeale vnto Scriptures vpon a false confidence thinking that the word of God maketh for them when it maketh against them For let these Scripturians be but marked let them be vnmasked that is as Vincentius Lyrinensis excellenly deliuereth the obseruation against them let not only their sayings but their meanings not their wordes but their senses of Scripture be noted then their bitternes shall be detected their madnes disclosed their new poyson vented forth their prophane nouelties reuealed then the hedge shal be cut then the boundes of Fathers shall be translated then Catholicke faith shall be violated and the Churches position cancelled Hitherto Vincentius 61. The only way then to make a man a true Christian Catholicke indeed if
Psalme did forsee this abominable and detestable voyce of some that should say that the Catholicke visible Church had perished and fallen into Apostacy a speach full of presumption and falshood susteyned with no truth inlightened with no wisdome seasoned with no salt a vaine temerarious headlong pernicious speach So S. Augustine And then further some few lines after the same Father bringeth in the said visible Church of his age to expostulate with those furious and franticke Donatists in this manner Quid est quod nescio qui recedentes à me murmurant contra me quid est quòd perditi c. What is the cause I know not why certaine people that go forth of me doe murmure against me What is the cause why certaine lost fellowes do contend and say that I am perished For this is their saying that I was the true Church but am not now c. The Scriptures say they haue bene fulfilled for that all nations haue belieued but the Church hath Apostated and perished throughout the world c. VVhen we vrge the promise of Christ Behold I am with you vnto the consummation of the world here they say that Christ promised to be with the Church vntill the end of the world for that he did foresee that they the factiō of Donatus should arise and continue the true Church vpon earth So. S. Augustine of and to the Donatists And surely nothing can occurre and be represented vnto our vnderstanding more conforme and answerable vnto the sense iudgment voyce agreement and speach of the Sectaries of these our times concerning their false imputations and most vniust calumniations against the present Roman Church 17. Now if this graue and holy Father S. Augustine one of the chiefest pillars of the latyn Church in his dayes speaking in the voyce and sense of the said vniuersall Catholicke Church in his age doth so grieuously and dreadfully censure this speach and blasphemous slander of the Apostacy of the visible Church so triuiall and familiar vnto Protestants now adayes as that he calleth it impudent abhominable detestable presumptuous false foolish rash temeratious and pernicious as you haue heard If he condemne euen to the lowermost pit of hell all those that frequent the same calling and accompting them for perditos lost and damned people recedentes ab Ecclesia Apostated from the Church vpon a false surmise of their owne foolish fancy supposing that the Church it selfe hath Apostated or may fall into Apostacy what shall we say of Protestants that do the same and stand in the very same case 18. But here it may be perhaps some man will reply that S. Augustine in the place before cyted sayth not that the visible Church cannot Apostate or perish but that it had not so done and fallen away in his time when the Donatists did falsly impute the same vnto it but that it might erre and fall away from truth in time to come that S. Augustine doth not deny 19. To this I answere that albeit S. Augustine totidem verbis do not say in so many wordes the Church in time to come may not Apostatate yet in pure force of argument and true substance of matter he doth affirme it in that he alledgeth against the Donatists and vrgeth to conuince thē the very promise of our Sauiour made vnto his Disciples and in their persons vnto the Church for euer Ecce ego vobiscum sum vsque in consummationem saeculi Behold I am with you vnto the consummation of the world which promise holdeth for all times in S. Augustine his iudgment euen vntill the worlds generall consummation and therfore the same Father in another place writing vpon another Psalme hauing first shewed how the Church is the Citty builded vpon an hill he further addeth Sedfortè ista Ciuitas quae mundum tenuit vniuersum aliquando euertetur Absit Deus enim fundauit eam in aeternum Si ergo Deus fundauit eam in aeternum quid times ne cadat But happily this Citty that hath possessed the whole world shall in time to come be ouerthrowne God forbid for God hath founded the same for euer as the Psalmist speaketh If therefore God hath founded the same for euer why dost thou feare least this foundation may fall Which very poynt S. Augustine repeateth againe in his first booke de Symbolo and the fifth Chapter to shew his constant and vnuariable resolution in this matter of the Church 20. And here I might alledge Father vpon Father Greeke vpon Latin and produce so many testimonies of the ancient Worthies and ancient Fathers as might suffice to fill a large volume and all of them tending directly to this effect to wit that the visible Church planted by our Sauiour he being the foundation stone and by his Apostles and spread ouer the face of the whole earth shall neuer perish or Apostatate from Christ by any the least damnable errour or heresy vnto the end of the world Christ his second comming vnto iudgement And to proue this they do all of them alleage and bring many pregnant and euident places of Scriptures 21. As for example these two heere vrged by S. Augustine as also that plaine text vttered by way of promise vnto his disciples Matth. 16. by our Sauiour portae inferorum non praeualebunt aduersus eam The gates of hell shall not preuaile against this Church on this place S. Chrysostome dilateth himselfe much as be by occasion treateth vpon the 148. Psalme and in an homily made at that tyme when he was to be expelled from Constantinople he inferred these wordes vpon that place Quòd si non credis verbo rebus ipsis operibus crede if you will not belieue Christs wordes the things themselues here spoken belieue his workes How many Tyrants haue gone about to impugne the Church c. Where are they that went about these things Quomodo impurissime Diabole Ecclesiāte putas posse deijcere How doest thou think thou most impure Diuel that thou canst ouerthrow the Church c. Which demaūd this blessed Father would neuer haue vrged vnto the wicked spirit if the Diuell might haue replyed that in tyme to come he should be able to ouerthrow it by sowing the tares of ignorance errour and heresy in it And now that S. Chrysostome meāt of the externall visible Church it is more then euident by the instāces that he bringeth of the horrible and inhumane persecution raysed and stirred vp by infidels and hereticall Emperours against the same most holy Church 22. And S. Cyprian that ancient and renowned Martyr treating of this argument soundeth forth this Eulogy in praise of the Church Adulterari non potest sponsa Christi incorruptaest pudica est domum vnam nouit vnius cubiculi sanctitatem casto pudore custodit The spouse of Christ cannot be adulterated she is vnspotted she is chast she knoweth one house she keepeth the sanctity of one chamber one bed and that
saluation as S. Augustine that great pillar of the latin Church noteth a sinne the soule guilt whereof nec sanguine abluitur nec passione purgatur to close vp the period with that renowned Martyr S. Cyprian his wordes 4. The last but not the least nay the greatest cause of my comfort was when I really apprehended the candor serenity humility and sincerity of your Noble hart in submitting your selfe by remitting the tryall and decision of the foresaid imputation and suspition of heresie vnto the sacred Canon of holy Writ common Creedes the first foure generall Councels and the blessed Fathers of the first foure or fiue hundred yeares to all which vpon an assured I may rather say a supposed innocency integrity of your cause you appealed for the finall vmpiring and determining of any point in controuersy betwixt the Catholicks and your Maiesty Which impartiall and substantiall grounds as they were very prudētly religiously and with great maturity of iudgment proposed by your Maiesty according to the greatnes and soundnes of your Iudicious Apprehension so if they shall stand inuiolable and irreuocable like to the law of the Medes Persians which could not be altered backed by the word authority of so potent a Prince as your Maiesty is which may not be reuoked for the word is gone forth from the King you shall not only auert and auoid all sinister imputation and suspition whatsoeuer from your Royall Person but withall you shall giue a sufficient testimony by publike declaratiō of your Maiesties gratious disposition for matter of religion And that if ought haue bene exorbitant extrauagant or irregular in matter of your beliefe it is rather to be ascrybed to your violent education then anyway to be imputed to your owne voluntary obduration These things were of wonderfull comfort exceeding solace vnto me 5. But in the midst of this sweet repose whilst my wearied and perplexed thoughts seemed to refresh themselues with some kind of promised hope vpon the forsaid premises behold diuers other pointes of great anxietie sollicitude interposed themselues nay suddainly interrupted my former solace I meane not generally such pointes of your Maiesties Booke as may concerne other Christian Princes people and States how these thinges would be taken amongst them for in this behalfe I might not presume to preiudice your Maiestyes Graue Wisedome and I could not but imagine but that your Maiesty out of the depth of your owne Prouident Iudgement had duely and prudently preponderated all such probable ensuing sequeles and taken farre better counsaile then myne could be but such as particulerly respected and by necessary deduction of a certaine ineuitable consequence reflected properly vpon my selfe For wheras I had with the greatest deliberation that I could possibly imagine grounded vpon my owne peculiar experience of many yeares trauayle in the sacred volumes of Orthodoxe Antiquity made before a firme irreuokable resolution to abandon the Protestant Religion vpon inuincible arguments of great solidity and notorious discouery of execrable blasphemy palpable and detestable heresy against God his Christ his Church his Saints building my foundation vpon the mayne rocke of Auncient Primitiue Church Canonicall Scripture truly sensed by them Creedes and Councels digested collected established by them I now descried that your Maiestie intended to ground the cleane contrary Plea vpon the same heades for vindication of the protestant Religiō from the guilty crime of heresy the very intimation whereof inforced me I confesse before the all-seeing iudge and vnto your Soueraigne Maiesty my supreame terrene Lord next vnder him to looke about me and to enter into a second and more serious consideration and meditation of the foresaid heades againe least I might happily in a matter of the greatest moment and weightiest consequence in this world haue runne awry to the euerlasting wracke and ruine of my soule 6. Now for ought that may concerne your Maiesties Royall Person touching the imputation of heresie let that loud-crying sinne of open Rebellion against the soueraignty of heauen rather light vpon the enemies of God his Christ his Church and the enemies of my Soueraigne then vpon my Lord the King whom the God of Angels make as an Angell of God to discerne betwixt hereticall noueltie and Catholicke antiquity In the meane time I find no difficulty nay I do with all alacrity and sincerity of soule admit the difference betweene an Hereticke and him that giueth credit vnto Hereticks which S. Augustine admitted in the behalfe of his friend Honoratus seduced by the Donatists as your Maiesty is supposed to be mis-led by Protestants It is in that excellent Tract of his de vtilitate credendi written to his said friend Si mihi Honorate vnum atque idem videretur esse Haereticus credens Haereticis homo tam lingua quàm stylo in hac causa conquiescendum esse arbitrarer c. Cùm haec ergo ita sunt non putaui apud te silendum esse c. If I were perswaded O Honoratus that an Hereticke and the man who doth belieue Hereticks were all one and that there were no difference I should suppose that I might spare both tongue and penne in this point But now since there is no small difference betwixt the two forasmuch as he is an hereticke in my iudgement who for some temporall commodity and especially for renowne and soueraignty eyther bringeth forth false and new opinions of himselfe or els adhereth vnto them that are brought forth by others but he that giueth credulity to these kynd of men is such a one as is deluded with a certaine imagination of verity and pietie wherefore these thinges being so I haue thought good not to be silent or to hold my peace with you what my iudgment is concerning the finding out and retaining of truth 7. We then that be your Maiestyes Catholicke Subiects dutifull in mind though different in iudgment do out of the aboundance of our most loyall affection and to mitigate matters what may be vntill Almighty God of his infinite goodnes shall vouchsafe to put further remedy in your vnderstanding hart by a more cleare reuealing of his truth most cheerfully and charitably fasten vpon that pious religious true distinction of S. Augustine not ascribing that hatefull name of Hereticke vnto your Maiesty howsoeuer you seeme for the present to adhere and patronize such opinions of Protestant Religion as we vpon contrary groundes of Catholicke diuinity do hold to be heresies but rather we esteeme your Maiesty for a Prince that from your natiuity and tender infancy after the vnfortunate losse of your thirce Noble Catholicke Mother haue byn misguyded in matters of Religion by such as had your Noble Person in their gouerment whome yow haue belieued and consequently haue byn deceyued imaginatione quadam veritatis pietatis illusus to end the sentence with S. Augustine his wordes 8. And heere in all dutifull submission as a true English-harted man and loyall subiect to
out of the new All these I say are receiued by those of the Roman Religion for Canonicall Scriptures in the sense before defined out of S. Augustine that is to say for holy and diuine bookes written by the finger of Almighty God by the ministery of those who were Pennes of a ready writer and consequently these of the second ranke were of no lesse authority nor infallible verity then those of the first order for that in things immediatly and a like proceeding from God his spirit there can not be lesse or more truth but all are of equall credit and so equally to be receaued honoured esteemed and belieued And thus much for the Catholickes who for a infallible ground and assured direction in this matter follow not any priuate erring spirit but the neuer-deceiuing authority of the Church which Church and spouse of Christ being guided by the spirit of God according to the promise of Christ her bridegrome hath from all ancient time in former ages in her Councells Synodes and Ecclesiasticall Decrees notified declared determined and established the authority of these foresaid bookes of the second rew for infallible and Canonicall that is to say declared them to be such and euer haue bene such to wit of most certaine and infallible truth though sometimes and amongst some men there haue bene doubt thereof And this is the manner of the Church to declare what is Scripture but not to make it 30. But as for the Protestants I find such diuersity and contrariety such opposition and contradiction among them that they seeme vnto me as mē in tangled shall I say nay perplexed and distracted not knowing what to doe or whither to fly or which way to turne them in this great busines of discerning and admitting Scriptures And surely the reason of all this misery ariseth from themselues alone Perditio tua ex te it was spoken of Israells transgression but neuer more truly verified thē of hereticall innouation for that these miserable deceiued and deceiuing soules leauing the high rode of the Churches prescription can neuer possibly attaine vnto any infallible direction one following one thing and another another and that in this maine point of the Scriptures importance Quot capita tot sententia euery man will be a chooser euery one will shew himselfe an Hereticke whence it commeth to passe that Gods word is wretchedly abused blasphemed reiected by some rent and torne in peeces by others and that which on God his part was ordained and prepared for them to be a sauour of life vnto life becommeth by their misusage of it a sauour of death vnto death and to speake all in a word through the fault of their owne peruerse will concurring and God his most righteous iudgment following them hard at the heeles it commeth to passe that that word which was giuen as a pillar of fire to direct and lighten them into all verity is turned into a pillar of smoke so darkening and infatuating their vnderstanding that they rush headlong into all kind of heresie 31. This being well peceiued by his Maiesty of England according to that notable apprehension of his Noble Nature he as it were out of a pious zealous and Religious disposition though wrongly missed by some time-seruing and Statizing Theologue who is somewhat to neere vnto his Royall Person writeth as in part before you haue heard concerning the Scriptures and it is in effect as followeth As for the Scriptures no man doubteth I will belieue them But euen for the Apocrypha I hould them in the same accompt that the Ancients did they are still printed and bound with our Bibles and publikely read in our Churches I reuerence them as writings of holy and good men but since they are not found in the Canon we accompt them to be secundae lectionis or ordinis which is Bellarmines owne distinction and therefore not sufficient wherupon alone to ground any article of faith except it be confirmed by some other place of Canonicall Scripture Thus writeth his Maiesty out of a good meaning no doubt and therefore great pitty it is that so Vertuous and Religious a Hart should erre or conceipt amisse But who shall determine whether these Scriptures here called Apocrypha which are those of the second order before mentioned be Canonicall Scriptures or not Herelyeth the substance of the questiō His Matie heere vpon the suggestion of his Domesticall Ministers of England saith no but the ancient Church of Christendome saith yea as doth also the present and her iudgement being in this case aboue all earthly authority is to strike the stroke betwixt God and man Let the word of my Soueraigne in all otherthings stand as the strong moūtaine that may not be remoued and as the law of the Medes and Persians which could neuer be altered only let not my lord the King be displeased with his seruant and subiect in this if his word may not stand but must of necessity fall to the ground as being countermaunded by the word of God that cannot nor will not be disauthorized by the word of any mortall man 32. It was suggested to his Matie but sinister was the information that Cardinall Bellarmine in his first booke de Verbo Dei cap. 4. held the former distinction of secundae lectionis or ordinis and that in his Maiesties sense but it is nothing so in the sense that here is set downe by his Maiesty to wit that this second order of bookes are of lesse authority then the first For albeit Bellarmine doth as before hath bene said deuide all the bookes that are in the Bible into three ranks or orders first into such as were neuer called in question by any Catholicke men Secondly into such as notwithstāding sometimes haue byn doubted of by some yet were afterwards admitted by the whole vniuersall Church And thirdly and lastly into Apocrypha yet doth he not either call those bookes of the second order Apocrypha or secundae lectionis as here is set downe nor yet secundi ordinis in his Maiesties sense as though they were lesse to be belieued and of lesse authority then those of the first ranke but rather he auerreth the quite contrary that they are all of one and the selfe same authority And therfore whosoeuer he was that suggested this place of Bellarmine vnto his Matie he dealt not well and sincerly therin with his Prince and he is bound by the law of conscience and by the law of a subiect towards his Soueraigne to acknowledge his errour were it of malice or of ignorance committed and humbly prostrate vpon his knees to craue pardon for this abusing of his Lord and euer after to beware how he presume to whisper any such vntruth palpable and notorious falshood into the eares of his dread Lord and King 33. But now forasmuch as this point of denying the infallible authority and irrefragable credit of any the least booke part or parcell of
And the place is very pregnant for prouing the point The bench being set the Ministers ech in time and order spake but God knoweth how few wise and true words were spoken amongst them The first starts vp and expounds it of Christ his suffering vpon the Crosse a second vnderstands it of the Graue a third extended it to Christ his sufferings of hell torments in soule and the fourth yet added and interpreted it of Christs being in the state of the dead The Moderator for such a one they haue in all their Exercises he as wise as the rest insteed of mending all he marreth all for he commendeth all approueth all and receiueth all and then falleth out into a wonderfull admiration of the diuersity of the gifts of the spirit that euery one of his fellow labourers in the Ghospell should haue his seuerall exposition and yet all to agree and all to be intended by the holy Church But this is iust according to Tertullian his prescription Nihil interest haereticis licèt diuersa tractantibus dum ad vnius veritatis expugnationem conspirent it importeth not amongst hereticks though so many men be of so many mindes whilst they can conspire to impugne one truth And do not so many seuerall and erroneous expositions banded against one true meaning of the article forcibly make good this prescription and note of Tertullian 37. And for my part as then so now I am of absolute opinion that if all my brethren and their Moderator with them had bene as farre out of the towne as they were euery one of them from the truth of the text and meaning of the holy Ghost in that place they would neuer more haue returned either to wiues or Cures or made such an other fanaticall exposition tending only to the ouerthrow of the Article 38. But yet my second obseruation goeth farre beyond all this and for the nouelty and absurdity of the exposition it deserueth to be registred in the record of eternall memory that all the world may take notice of the palpable blindnesse of heresy and it is of diuers stipendary Preachers who as they seuerally succeeded one the other in a very eminent place of that Kingdome so they diuersly expounded the article one of them expounded it of hell torments in Caluins sense a second succeding of the graue in Beza his meaning the third and last because he would be sure to proue himselfe an hereticke addidit de suo he found out such an exposition as was neuer heard of before vnlesse it were by one Iacob a turbulent and Schismaticall spirit that opposed himselfe against the Bishop of VVinchester impar congressus I say no more touching this article His exposition in plaine words was this Christ descended into hell that is sayth he he ascended into heauen and this he thought he proued substantially out of the Greeke wordes 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which said he signifieth no more thē that Christ went 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is said he to an inuisible place and this must be proportioned according to the dignity of the person and consequently must be heauen For what place can be fit for the Sonne of God being thus in the state of the dead but heauen And so as before his conclusion for a full and perfect exposition of this article was he descended into hell that is he ascended into heauen And is not this as Luther merily gibeth at the Canonicall exposition of Hoc est corpus meum as if a man taking vpon him to interpret this text God created heauen and earth should interpret it thus acroked staffe was made a kite or the cuccow did eat vp the kitling bones and all For certaine I am there is as much truth and correspondency betwixt the one as the other Oh miserable Preachers o thrice miserable people that thus suffer their eyes to be put out and their soules to be deluded beguiled and betrayed by such hereticall impostors 39. And now to proceed forward and to see what the Church of England doth hould in this point M. Thomas Rogers Minister of Horninger and Chaplaine to the Lord of Canterbury hauing taken vpon him to set forth in print of late The faith doctrine and religion prosessed and protected in England for so are his wordes in 36. articles agreed vpon as he saith by the Bishops and Clergy of England when he commeth vnto this article he seemeth not to know what to say for hauing laid forth this article of Christs descent into hell he hath these wordes That Christ went downe into hell saith he all sound Christians both in former times and now liuing do acknowledge howbeit in the interpretation of the article there is not that consent that were to be wished And so after he hath set downe diuers opinions of others forgetting to put downe his owne he passeth and posteth the matter ouer in such sort as that no man can tell what they of England do hold or what it is that is agreed vpon by the Bishops or whether they hold any thing at all though in the title of his booke he doth promise to set downe 39. Articles vniformely agreed vpon by the said Bishops and Clergy belike he found no concord or agreement in this behalfe only he recounteth the aduerse opiniōs which he holdeth for opposite erours and aduersaries to the truth and then going on futher he sayth But vntill we know the natiue and vndoubted sense of this article and mystery of Christian Religion we persist aduersaries vnto them that say that Christ descended not into hell at all or that Christ descended into the place of euerlasting tormentes or indured in soule the paynes of damned spirits c. which opinions you haue heard now to haue bene partly of Caluin partly of other Protestants so as with them the Church of England holdeth not nor yet with the Papists sayth he for that presently he addeth for an opposite errour vnto them That Christ in soule went downe into Limbo lake to fetch from thence the soules of our forefathers which soules saith he before Christs death as Papists dreme were shut vp in the close prison of hell Now then to reflect vpon the premises and out of them to inferre the conclusion the illation must needes be this Though all partes do in wordes admit this article of Christ his descent into hell yet do they greatly differ in the sense and the ministers of England as it seemeth haue no certaine faith therin at all neither do they ascribe so much assistance of the holy Ghost to their Church which the true Church could neuer want as to be able to explaine the natiue and vndoubted sense of this article and Mystery of Christian Religion to vse M. Rogers wordes so as their beliefe herein is only negatiue as their whole Religion is which is to belieue that all others are deceiued besides themselues and yet do they affirme nothing in particular And let
by Moyses the first pen man of the holy Ghost and so successiuely vpon sundry occasions continued 49. M. Rogers his first proposition is That the markes and tokens of their visible Church are the due and true administration of the VVord and Sacraments but these markes are not admitted by the Catholickes but worthily reiected for that they are as hard and obscure to find out and as much controuerted as the thing it selfe whereof they should be markes for that all partes yea all sectes and heresies doe pretend to haue due and true administration of the word and Sacraments and it is as hard a matter to determine this controuersy as the other viz. to find out which is the true Church But the Markes of Antiquity Vniuersality Vnity and Succession before mentioned and giuen by Catholickes for such were Tertullians 1400. yeares ago when he wrote that excellent booke of Prescriptions and Vincentius Lyrinensis 1200. years since to take away your late imputation and denomination of Papist vnto Catholickes are so cleare and euident in themselues that presently they will distinguish betwixt one Church and another betwixt Roman Catholickes and all hereticall Sectaries And albeit some Sectaries being pressed therewith will pretend to haue these markes in their Church and will set a good face vpon the matter and challenge them also yet are these wordes out before they be aware for the matter being so euident against them they presently giue ouer their clayme they are content to hold hāds of running to other obscure markes the common Plea of all condemned Heretickes of the due and true administration of the Word and Sacraments when God wotteth they haue neyther Word nor Sacrament according to the Catholicke integrity and sincerity 50. M. Rogers sixt proposition about the Church is That the visible Church to wit the true Catholick Church may and hath from time to time erred both in doctrine and conuersation which assertion the Catholick in his sense doth hold for so blasphemous and absurd yea ridiculous also as nothing can be more For if this be true that the true visible Catholicke Church spread ouer the whole Christian world can erre and induce into errour then is there no surety or certainty in the world no not in the promises of Christ and his Apostles who assured vs the contrary 51. But let vs take a view of M. Rogers proofes out of Scripture for confirming this his sixth assertion which surely are so fantasticall and impertinent for any consequence to be drawne from them so absurd in reason and ridiculous in religion that no man of iudgement or conscience can read them without indignation and laughter as by the view will appeare For thus he setteth them downe in his owne wordes only I will add the inference vpon euery probation out of Scriptures His first place is Take heed Matth. 24. 4. therefore the Church may erre Belieue it not Matth. 23. 26. therefore the Church may erre Beware of the leauen of the Pharisyes and of the leauen of Herod Mar. 8. 15. therefore the Church may erre Many shall be deceiued yea the very elect were it possible Matth. 24. 11. therefore the Church may erre Shall he find faith vpon the earth Luc. 18. 8. therefore the Church may erre VVe know in part 1 Cor. 13. 12. therefore the Church may erre Beware of Dogges therefore the Church may erre Beware of euill workes beware of concision Philip. 3. v. 2. therefore the Church may erre God shall send them strong illusions that they should belieue lyes 2. Thess. 9. 10. therefore the Church may erre And is not this a sound proofe out of the Scriptures 52. These are those cleare texts that M. Rogers bringeth forth to proue that the vniuersall Christian visible Catholicke Church for that only we now treat of may be deceiued and hath erred determining matters of doctrine and yet as you see here is not one word that is spoken or may be applyed to the said vniuersall Catholicke Church but only caueats giuen to the Church to beware of particuler deceauers Heretickes Pharisies Herod the like And consequently these places are so idly vrged and so absurdly applied by the Authour that I should wast time in spending any more labour about perusing them any further Only one of his places I will but touch in one word Many saith Christ shall be deceiued yea the very elect if it were possible out of which place for the ouerthrowing of M. Rogers proposition and inferring the cleane contrary assertion I reason thus and let Tribunal Syllogismi vmpire betwixt vs both which is the better and fitter consequence deduced out of this place if it be impossible that the elect shall be deceiued though many be deceiued then the Church comprehending the elect as a part of her cannot be beceiued sed verum primum for truth it selfe hath spoken it and this is the true meaning of those wordes if it were possible c. ergo secundum The like consequence I would inferre out of all the rest but the places are so absurdly and against all common sense and reason vrged that they are not longer to be stood vpon 53. The like miserable course or rather more pitifull if possibly it may be doth he take to proue the second part of his proposition which is that the said Catholicke visible Church may erre in determining matters of life and manners for that is the question and not his ydle word of erring in conuersation And first he doth alleag the words of Christ Iniquity shal be increased and the loue of many shall wax could Matth. 24. 12. therefore the Church may erre in determining matters of life and manners Secondly he citeth that of S. Paul Restore c least thou also be tempted Gal. 6. 1. therefore the Church may erre in determining matters of life and manners Thirdly I do not the good thing which I would but the euill which I would not that doe I if I doe that which I would not it is no more I that do it but the sinne that dwelleth in me Rom. 7. 19. 20. therefore the Church may erre in determining matters of life and manners Fourthly There is a fight euen in the best men and mēbers of Christ Rom. 7. 23 therfore the Church may erre in determining matters belōging to lyfe and manners for this must be his conclusion out of euery one of these places as his former of doctrine was out of the other And are not these goodly argumentes to proue his assertion His assertion as you haue often heard was that the visible Catholicke Church might erre in determining matters belonging to manners to wit in defining and finally determining this is good that is bad this is lawfull that vnlawfull and the like and he commeth in with his misapplied texts to proue that particuler men may haue infirmities in them and fight of their passions or concupiscence Doth he not hit the naile on the head
of Triall offered and alledged by his Maiesty of England HAVING discoursed at large of the three generall heades to wit Scriptures Creedes Councells in the three precedent Chapters we are now according to order and method both offered vnto vs and accepted of vs to treat of the last generall head in this subsequent Chapter And the subiect we haue how in hand is touching the high esteeme credit and authority to be giuen to the ancient Fathers vnto which his Matie doth appeale in this last place saying thus I do reuerence the ancient Fathers as much and more then the Iesuites do and asmuch as themselues euer craued For what euer the Fathers of the first foure hundred yeares did with an vnanime consent agree vpon to be belieued as a necessary poynt of saluation I eyther will belieue it also or at least wil be humbly silent not taking vpon me to condemne the same But for euery priuate Father his opinion it byndes not my conscience more then Bellarmines euery one of the Fathers vsually contradicting others I will therefore in that case follow S. Augustine his rule in iudging their opinions as I shall find them agree with the Scriptures what I find agreeable thereunto I will imbrace what is otherwise I will with their reuerence reiect So the King And that his Maiesty for his part hath also a good meaning in this as farre as his education and instruction can possibly permitt and further that he is perswaded that he speaketh and meaneth like a good Catholicke and orthodox Christian I do with all diligence and due respect of loyall duty vnto his Royall grace endeauour to perswade myselfe 2. And yet neuerthelesse it is more then euident and apparant yea obuious vnto the eye of any discreet indifferent iudicious and vnderstanding man that his Excellent Grace hath bene notoriously abused and very sinisterly an erroneously informed in sundry passages of this poynt and mayne head concerning the reuerence respect and authority due to the Fathers of Gods Church and that by such Statizing and temporizing Ministers that being no longer able to sustaine their weake false cause quaeipsissimo suo ruit pondere would deriue the shame blame and burden of their now present tottering Religion vpon the person of his Princely Maiesty ingaging him thus in their hereticall quarrell and therefore they suggest from time to time such particulers out of euery generall as serue rather for their owne sinister respects then eyther for the preuention of errour or decision of truth or preseruation of the honour and soueraigne reputation of his Princely Person whence it commeth to passe that they impressionate his Princely hart with their owne particuler humorous passions exagitate his grace with their odious and malitious calumniations bent against the vpright and the innocent in a word they rather auert his affection from ancient Catholicke verity and peruert his iudgement by their erroneous fancy and late vpstart nouelty then lay forth the playne and simple truth vnto his Maiesty though they professe themselues to be Ministers of simple truth eyther in sound substance or sincere circumstance And this God willing we shall discouer by many particuler passages in this present busines and poynt of ancient Fathers that we haue now in hand 3. And first to proceed in order and to beginne with the accusation and imputation laid vpon the lesuits for that they are here charged according to that which hath bene suggested vnto his Maiesty for I will neuer lay this imputation and false accusatiō vpon his Princely Person that they do not reuerence the authority of the ancient Fathers indeed not so much as his Maiesty doth who saith here as you haue heard That when the Fathers of the first soure hūdred years do with an vnanime consent agree vpon any thing to be belieued as a necessary poynt of saluation his Highnes will belieue it also or at least wil be humbly silent and not condemne the same But he that will peruse and read ouer the learned and manifould laborious volumes of the Iesuites shall find thē to go much further in this point teaching and constantly asseuering with Vincentius Lyrineusis and with the ioynt agreement of antiquity that the vnanime consent of Fathers vpon any point maketh it an infallible truth Quod Patres Doctores saith Gregorius de Valentia vnanimi consensu circa religionem tradunt infallibiliter verum est VVhatsoeuer the Fathers and Doctours deliuer with one consent about religion that is infallibly true And the same do hold all other Iesuites which also Vincentius Lyrinensis more then a thousand yeares before them doth confirme in these wordes Hos ergo in Ecclesia Dei diuinitus per tempora loca dispensatos quisquis in sensu Catholici dogmatis vnum aliquid in Christo sentientes contempserit non hominem contemnit sed Deum These therefore he meaneth the ancient Fathers and Doctors of the Church giuen and granted by God throughout all ages and places whosoeuer shall contemne them agreeing vpon any one point in Christ in the sense of Catholick Doctrine he contemneth not man but God 4. And this is grounded and proued as the said Valentia noteth vpon that discourse of S. Paul Ephes. 4. where he sheweth how Christ ascending into heauen left his Church furnished and fenced with all kynd of necessary furniture for her present instruction future direction and perpetuall prescruation as with Apostles Prophets Euangelists Pastors Doctors and this vnto the worldes end And the reason of this is that which the foresaid Authour obserueth out of the Apostle himselfe Vt non circumferamur omni vento Doctrinae that we should not be carried hither and thither and tossed vp and downe with euery blast of Doctrine 5. And finally he confirmeth the same by shewing that this great absurdity would otherwayes follow that if the whole consent of Fathers may erre then may they induce the whole Church to erre yea inforce her therunto for that the Church is bound to follow and belieue the vnamine consent of her Pastours Doctors Gouernours and teachers and that throughout all ages of the Church 6. This is the doctrine which I find amongst the Iesuites concerning the accompt and reckoning that is to be made of the vniforme and vnamine consent of Fathers For with Gregory de Valentia as now I haue said doe agree all the most eminent and principall writers of that Society as for example Doctor Petru Canis●us in his later Catechisme Cap. 11. Cardinall Bellarmine in his fourth booke de verbo Dei cap. 9. Vasquez tom 1. in primam part Disp. 12. Cap. 1. Maldonatus in 6. Ioan. Tolet vpon the 6. Chapter of S. Iohn and many others which as I take it is a great deale more then here is granted by Protestāts vnto the Fathers since there is no more yet promised and professed then eyther to belieue them or to be humbly silent and not condemne them 7.
do conclude thus Alibi verò passim Cyprianus dicit super Petrum Ecclesiam fundatam esse Cyprian doth ordinarily in other places affirme the Church to be sounded vpon Peter as lib. 1. epist. 3. lib. 4. epist. 9. tract 2. de habitu virginum serm 3. de bono patientiae epist ad Quirinum 65. And the same hath Origen say they tract 5. in Matth. in these wordes Petrus per promissionem meruit fieri Ecclesiae fundamentum Et homil 17. super Lucam Petrum vocat Apostolorū Principem Peter by the promise of Christ deserued to be made the foundation of the Church And againe in his 17. homily vpon Luke Origen calleth S. Peter the Prince of the Apostles Thus the Magdeburgians are forced to shew the Fathers of this age to be against themselues 66. And now by this the prudent reader may iudge what a volume I might make vp if I should here recyte all the authorities which in this kynd the Magdeburgians doe alleadge for confirmation of the generall heades touched in the foregoing age and the other here adioyned For thus they beginne the articles of martyrdome and merit thereof Martyrium immodicè extulerunt omnes huius aetatis Doctores All the Doctors and it is worth the marking that they say all of this age do extoll martyrdome immoderately And in like manner they beginne their Article of chastity thus Sicut in superioris saeculi historia it a hic inuenies nimiùm praedicari extolli continentiam As in the history of the former age so here shall you find continency to be ouer much commended and extolled And thus much for these so many and so seuerall pointes as before hath bene touched 67. Now let vs add one article or head more of Roman Catholick Doctrine discouered by the same Magdeburgians in the Fathers of this third age not hitherto handled to wit the article of Purgatory For thus they write Semina Purgatoris in aliquot locis apud Originem subinde sparsa videas You may see here and there the seedes of Purgatory sowed in certaine places of Origin his workes as homily the 2. in Psalm 36. homil 3. in cumdem homil 8. in Leuiticum homil 12. in Ezechielem in libro primo contra Celsum lib. 1. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 cap. 6. And albeit the Magdeburgians do call this but a strong imagination of Origen yet I do consider this that amongst so many opinions reprehended and cōdemned in Origen by the Fathers of the subsequent ages yet none did euer reprehend this his opinion of Purgatory as an errour of his but rather followed Origen them selues houlding the same as a Catholicke truth so as now the other heades of Roman Catholicke Doctrine held by the chiefe Fathers and Doctors of two precedent ages to wit about free-will perfection of life possibility of the commaundements tradition and rites Supremacy of the Pope of Rome merit of Martyrdome state of Virginity and the like here in this age the same heades are not only confirmed and ratified but as many more disclosed as Prayers vnto Angells Iustification by workes Pennance and satisfaction intercession of Martyrs for sinners in this life sāctifying the water of baptisme by the Priest necessity and efficacy of holy chrisme sanctification of the holy Eucharist vpon Aultars the forme of inuocation of Angells and Saints Purgatory and diuers other such like points which are at this day controuersed I heere for breuity sake do passe ouer hastening vnto the fourth age The fourth Age. 68. The fourth age of Christ beginning from the yeare 400. had for chiefe Fathers of the Greeke Church S. Cyril of Hierusalem S. Ephraim S. Basil S. Epiphanius S. Gregory Nazianzen Gregory Nissen and many others as also the chiefe Doctors of the Latin Church were S. Ambrose S. Hierome Prudentius Philastrius Ruffinus and others In which age two principall points are to be cōsidered here for our purpose First whether all the former Catholicke opinions that were discouered in the second and third precedent ages to be then held by the Church and Fathers thereof were now confirmed also in this fourth age and secondly whether any other poyntes be further insinuated and inculcated touching the same doctrine 69. And as for the first it is euident that the lower we descend from the Apostles time the greater confirmation and illustration vpon occasion of hereticall opposition shall we find of the same articles As for example the Magdeburgians haue a Chapter De coena Domini of the Lordes supper wherein they do proue out of Gregory Nazianzen Eusebius Ambrosius Hieronymus Hilarius Arnobius Basilius Epiphanius and diuers other Fathers and Doctors of this age the Reall Presence of Christ in the said supper which they hould to haue beene truly and Catholickely defended by them Then passing ouer vnto the other heades which lye in controuersy betweene vs they doe shew to be held also but as they say erroneously by the chiefe Fathers of this fourth age no lesse then by those of the former ages And then beginning with the article of Free will they say Patres omnes huius ferè aetatis de libero arbitrio confusè loquuntur All the Fathers of this age doe speake in a sort confusedly of Free will but howsoeuer the Fathers speake confusedly certaine it is that the Magdeburgians speake and censure falsely and heretically according to their old wont 70. And yet presently after they make mention of Lactantius Athanasius Basilius Nazianzen Epiphanius S. Hierome and S. Gregory men who speake as plainely and distinctly thereof as men may do and as it may possibly be imagined and not confusedly Let vs heare S. Hierome speaking in steed of all Omni aetati saith he omnique personae libertas arbitrij relicta est Non cogo non impero sed propono palmam ostendo praemia tuum est eligere si volueris in agone certamine coronari Liberty of free-will is left vnto euery age and vnto all persons God saith I do not force I do not commaund but I do propose vnto thee the crowne and do shew thee the rewards it is thy part to choose if thou wilt winne the crowne in the fight and conflict So he 71. And the very same point of doctrine is often times by him reassumed reiterated and vrged in inciting men to imbrace the doctrine of Euangelicall Counsells where he vseth the selfe same wordes in many places of of his workes The said Magdeburgians do alleage most plaine and cleare places and sentences forth of Lactantius Nilus Chromatius Ephraim and S. Hierome who teach plainly that man is not iustified by only faith Non sufficit murum habere fidei nisi ipsa fides bonis operibus confirmetur It is not saith S. Hierome sufficient to haue the wall of faith except that faith be confirmed with good workes 72. And as for the merit of good workes the Magdeburgians do openly confesse that both the