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A04528	The Catholique iudge: or A moderator of the Catholique moderator Where in forme or manner of a plea or suite at law, the differences betweene those of the Reformed Church, and them of the Romish Church are decided; and without partialitie is shewed which is the true religion and catholique Church, for the instruction of either partie. Together with eight strong arguments or reasons, why the Popes cannot be competent iudges in these controversies. Written in the Dutch and French tongue, by Iohn of the Crosse, a Catholique gentleman. Translated out of French into English, by the right worshipfull and learned Knight Sir A.A.	John of the Crosse, a Catholique gentleman.; A. A., Sir.	1623 (1623)	STC 14651; ESTC S107831	50,836	96

and title but the first hath true effect of succession without which succession is but a bare following of one thing after another when the disease is said to succeed or follow after health darknes after light tempests after calme folly and rashnesse after wisedome and prudence lees or dregs after wine or beere Hitherto continue the words of Nazianzen Also as we say that Nero succeeded Augustus and Cambyses Cyrus Considering then that the succession of the Propheticall and Apostolicall doctrine hath long since ceased in the Church of Rome the Reformed conclude that the ordinarie succession of the Popes of Rome and of the Bishops of the Romane Church is not sufficient to establish true religion When the succession of doctrine ceased in the Romane Church nor in any sort thereof to determine But it may be they of the Romane Church will demand of the Reformed Christians at what time and vnder what Pope the succession of true doctrine was interrupted changed and altered To which the Reformed answer that the Popes and Bishops of Rome must be distinguished and divided into three ranks or sorts For first all the Reformed deny not The first ranke of Romane Bishops but that from Linus to Melchiades the first Bishoppes of Rome being thirty and one in number were faithfull Pastors of the Church of Christ who laboured in the vineyard and harvest of the Lord even vnto death and therefore they may rightly be called starres remayning in the right hand of our Lord Iesus Christ but from Sylvester the first The second sort of Popes to Sabian the Thuscan thirty three in number they say the Reformed were but Bishops with Miters which albeit they were not the worst did notwithstanding by their traditions and decrees prepare the state and throne for the great Antichrist All the other Popes from him vnto the Pope at this present The third sort of Popes are called and held by the Reformed for Antichrists in such sort notwithstanding as that the first of those Popes vnto twenty and nine after Boniface the fift and Leo the fourth are accounted to be in the kingdome of the great Beast the other thirty and one Popes ensuing from Iohn the eight vnto Iohn the seuenteenth are registred and recounted in the kingdome of the great Whore Apoc. 17. and the other nine and thirty Popes succeding vnto Celestine the fourth Apoc. 17. Apoc. 20. Apoc 9. belong to the kingdome of the great Dragon and all the last Popes from Innocent the fourth vnto the present Pope which exceedeth the number of fiftie are enrowled or numbred in the kingdome of Grashoppers according to the ancient prophesie which the Lord hath vouchsafed to reveale vnto vs concerning the kingdome of Antichrist Beholde how plainely it appeareth say the Reformed that the personall succession of Bishops is of very smal importance and authority to decide the difference of religion The consent and accord in the outward service cannot be a marke of true religion But yet say they of the Roman Church cannot the vnion good agreement and consent in publique doctrine and outward service demonstrate which is the true Catholique Church To which the Reformed reply that if bare consent and accord in outward service could performe so much that then neither the Iewes nor the Turkes nor any other Heretiques Pagans and Infidels could bee excluded from the Catholique Church for as much as experience in all times doth sufficiently proue them marvelously to agree and to be of one iudgement and consent in their perverse heresies and false errors whereas contrariwise wee see often-times great and excellent Orthodoxe Doctors Dissention of diverse excellent Doctors Act. 15. to haue had sharpe and bitter dissention and contention one with the other Betweene Paul and Barnabas such strife was stirred and kindled that one departed from the other euen so Peter Alexandrine and Melitus did striue and contend each against other as also Epiphanius and Saint Crysostome Soz. l. 1 c. 16. Socr. l. 4. c. 32. Orig. con Cels lib. 7. Srom. 7. Saint Ierome and Saint Augustine and Ruffin likewise Ciril Iohn of Antioch and Theodoret. Yea pagan Infidels haue often vpbraided and reproched Christians for their disagreement and disunion Whence it appeareth more cleere then the Sun at noone-day say the Reformed that as externall agreement or the onely vnion and consent in the outward service of God cannot decide or determine of the truth of religion so on the contrary part also every kinde of dissenting and partaking is not by and by a token or marke of false religion Yet with this proviso or caution that the foundation of the truth be not subverted by the debate and difference in the dissention That the most ancient custom is not a marke of the true Church Shall it be then the cōmon publike custom of diverse ages that can shew vs where we must seeke and find the true Church The Reformed answer that as the eternall God hath expresly forbidden the faithfull to permit and suffer his eternal and divine truth in any sort to be impayred defaced or diminished either because of time or proscription of many yeeres or by any custome bee it never so ancient● or by any conspiring and generall assent whatsoever yea although it were of the whole world So that wee see that the good Patriarch Noe with all his familie Gen. 7. Heb. 11. although hee saw all men to conspire and consent together in impiety and dissolute life it being growne to a custome in certaine ages afore-going hee notwithstanding did rather embrace with those of his familie divine doctrine then consent with all other to the impiety and prophanation of the whole world Must it then bee the Church that ought to suppresse and compound all these grear controversies in religion The Reformed say that first and foremost we must learne well to distinguish the true Church from the false Synagogue and the assembly of the vngodly That the only written Word of God should be Iudge of religion which cannot be effected by any other meanes then by the only written Word of God Must then the holy Scripture be full and sole or competent Iudge of the difference and state depending betweene these disagreeing and divided inheritors The Reformed Christians are altogether of this opinion and thereupon are fully resolved For indeed they maintaine and certainely shew with S. Austine S. Ciprian and diuers other very ancient fathers and Orthodox doctors that the things which are necessarie to the saluation of the faithfull and children of God Luk. 16. Io. 4. Io. 6. Io. 15. Act. 28. Pro. 30. 2 Tim. 3. Esa 8. are all exactly contained in the written word of God which is commonly called the holy Scripture For Saint Austine verie well saith Aug. tract in Iohan. ca. 11. Chrysost hom 41. c. 22. in Ioh. It is only to the bookes of holy Scripture now called Canonicall that wee must

THE CATHOLIQVE IVDGE OR A MODERATOR OF THE Catholique Moderator Where in forme or manner of a Plea or Suite at Law the differences betweene those of the Reformed Church and them of the Romish Church are decided and without partialitie is shewed which is the true Religion and Catholique Church for the instruction of either partie Together with eight strong Arguments or Reasons why the Popes cannot be competent Iudges in these controversies Written in the Dutch and French tongue by Iohn of the Crosse a Catholique Gentleman Translated out of French into English by the Right worshipfull and learned Knight Sir A. A. Pro. 17.15 Hee that iustifieth the wicked and he that condemneth the iust they both are an abhomination to the Lord. LONDON Printed by I. D. for Robert Mylbourne and are to be sold at his shop at the great South-doore of Pauls 1623. TO MONSIVER NICHOLAS MALAYR LORD OF TVT c. SIr The Authors Epistle more then twenty yeeres are past since lighting on the substance or matter of this present booke handled in Latin in forme of an Oration by the inducement of certain good Personages I was perswaded to reduce it into the forme of an Action or Suite at Lawe and to cause it to bee Printed in the Flemish tongue with hope that this small Treatise might conduce some-what towards the edifying of Christians And vnderstanding that diverse impressions haue beene sold in the Low-Countries Hereupon I at the last resolved to make it change language for the vse of our Churches and especially of the Churches in the Kingdome of France where are to be found these two formall complaining parties brought in as contending or pretending title in this cause of Religion that is to say they which make profession of the Romane Religion as accusers or Plaintiffes on the one part and they which make profession of the Reformed Religion as the accused or Defendants on the other part I assure my selfe that both the one and the other will herein finde occasion more seriously to consider of this so important businesse and debate yea and whosoever will not be wilfully blinde may easily here discerne how this suite or cause of Religion hath beene for many yeeres past wranglingly and cunningly pleaded by them that seeke for nothing else but to charge and burden their adverse partie with vniust and false accusations and reproches and to hinder the comming at length to a finall decision or determination God grant that even the most simple and ignorant may reade it heedfully and without preiudice or preiudging to the end they may seriously resolue to ioyne with the better party for the advancement of Gods glory of their saluation in our Sauior Iesus Christ For the rest Sir I haue presumed to dedicate vnto you the French edition of this religious suite or action concerning Religion hoping you will accept receiue and take it in as good part as I offer this my poore labour with a sincere affection especially because I vnderstand that you are much addicted to the reading of bookes which tend to the maintaining and defending of the doctrine of Iesus Christ Be pleased then I beseech you that I may here make vnto you some small publique acknowledgement and I humbly desire our good God to fit you with his especiall blessings most conducing and tending to his glory and your eternall salvation At Harlem about the end of Ianuary in the yeere of our Lord 1614. Your humble and most affectionate in service and dutie Iohn of the Crosse To the Christian Reader CHristian Reader whereas this little book containeth the principall controversies of Religion I thought good to adioyne hereto at the beginning a Catalogue of all the Authors whose testimonies are cited in diuers places of this Treatise to the end no man may thinke that the points or matter therein handled is onely the opinion of some small number of people and of late sprung vp but of many persons and in sundry times to the end also that every one diligently examining the sayd authors may satisfie and put himselfe out of all doubt So that neither the one nor the other party may haue iust reason to complaine of my partiality Reade heedfully and iudge vprightly A Register of the Authors titled in this Treatise for the better confirmation of the Truth A Augustinus Ambrosius Acatius Athanasius Andradius Antonius Florent Aeneas Silvius Albertus Cratzius Abbas Vrspergensis Augustinus Steuchius Arnobius Actius Zan. Agrippa Apollo Arnulphus Aucet Epis Arias Montanus B Bernardus Abbas clu Basilius Bonifacius Baldus Benna Cardinalis Beda Baronius Bernardus Mendoza C Chrysostome Cyrillus Clemens Alexandrinus Cyprianus Calixtus Clementis Clementinus Coletus Conformiatum Liber Concilium Trident. Coment Magist Pariseen Cuspimianus D Ducherius E Ecchius Evagrius Eutropius Extrauagants Eusebius Everard Archi. Salis Epiphanius Erasmus F Fellinus Francis Petrarch Flavius Blondus Fuccius G Gregorius Nazianzen Gelasius Gulielmus Budaeus Gerson Gregorius Magnus Gratianus Gabriel Biel. Grebelius G. Lilius Gallen-Annal H Hironimus Hulderius Huttenus Hesius Hermoadus Hieron Sauanarola Hiron Marius I Ieremius Iustinian Ius Canon Iason Ianus Pannon Iohannes Monlucius Iohan. de terra Cremata Iohan. Petrus Farra Iohan. Anarsimus Iohan. Iouianus Pontanus Iohan Functius Iohan Nouiamga L Lindanus Lombardus Laurentius Valla. Luitperandus Ficinencis Legenda Sanctorum M Marcilius Ficinus Mantuan Baptista Mabeus Marullus Matthaeus Parisiens Michael Centonas N Nicholaus Cusans Nauclerus O Orosius Origenes P Paphnutius Panormitan Paulus Weigerius Episcop Petrusius Soto Platina Petrus Premonstra Pighius Philippus Orcius Pautalion R Raphael Volaterranus Ruardus Tap. Ruffinus S Stella ventus Sabellicus Socrates Sigibertus Spiridion T Tertullianus Thomas Aquinus Theodoretus Trebellius Thomas Roden V Vincentius Valerius Anselmus Vicaelius Z Zezintus THE CATHOLIKE IVDGE All yee people and inhabitants of the world that loue the truth in sinceritie of heart be attentiue and giue eare for behold a great and most important cause is to be tried THE Soueraigne and Almightie God who is a most gracious Father of all his elect hath promised the Kingdome of Heauen to all true beleeuers euen as to his deere Children in his onely and well beloued Sonne And hath published and exhibited this his promise of the heauenly inheritance in the publike writings or records of the old and new Testament and hauing also sealed it with the Signet of the Sacraments he hath ouer and aboue deliuered and committed it into the hands of the inheritors Adioyning moreouer to the writings testimentarie certaine fatherly conditions which the heires of the same inheritance should be tied to performe and obserue But the Children are fallen into debate and they are deuided and seperated one from the other with great contestation The one of the parties acknowledgeth the Pope of Rome to be their visible head yea verily and the Lieftenant of the heauenly Testatour The other partie will not acknowledge the Pope of Rome to be such Euen thus they challendge and pretend right to the possession of

Marcion and refuted and convinced the Heretique Eutyches The Reformed protest Con. Chal. that they will most willingly allow of the foure Creeds and Confessions of Faith ordayned by those foure Generall Councels as faithfull expositions of Christian religion for so much as they be grounded vpon the word of God But in the 500 yeers ensuing The second period of 500. yeeres falshood so strugled and encountered with the truth that so soon as man began by little and little to decline from the true and right rule of holy Scripture there did forthwith spring vp diverse plants of false doctrine and of hurtfull ceremonies which more and more encreased for albeit indeede in the fift Generall Councell called by the Emperour Iustinian in Constantinople 5. Con. Gen. all they were refuted which maintained that the bodie of our Lord Iesus Christ was of immortall and incorruptible nature Also howbeit that at the sixt generall Councell which was celebrated and held in the same place by the authority of Constantine the fifth the Heretiques Monotholites were convinced and condemned So it is that afterwards and almost all the Councels ensuing propounded and agreed vpon things altogether vnprofitable or for the most repugnant to the expresse word of God For in the seventh generall Councell which was first assembled by the Empresse of Constantinople and from thence removed to Nice it was held good and decreed that Images should be honoured and adored the which was not delt in or determined by the authority of the word of God but rather by the force of a mightie army for that purpose procured and called from Thracia The eight generall Councell was held in Constantinople vnder the raigne of the Emperor Basilius where Pope Adrian by his Legates commanded to acknowledge the Church of Rome for the head of all other Churches and that all lay and secular persons should be excluded from all election of Clerkes or persons Ecclesiastical so that thereupon so great debate and contention did arise betweene the Greeke and Latin Churches concerning the primacy or chiefe so that the controversie is not at this day altogether determined and pacified The 3. period of 500. yeeres The other fiue hundred yeeres next following such Councels and Synodes were held as decreed almost nothing which was good but rather pernicious doctrine was therein confirmed and established For proofe whereof say the Reformed no more needs to bee done but only to produce one Counsell of euery age before mentioned In the Councell or Synod of Maience 1049. at which both the Emperour and the Pope were present together with an hundreth and thirtie Bishops the point touching the forbidding of marriage to Priests was discussed In the Councell of Brixia which was assembled by the Emperour Henry Gregory the seuenth was deposed from the papall seate 1080. by reason of his blasphemies and villanies aboue mentioned In the Councell of Pauiaohen when the Emp. Fredericke would haue had the election of the Popes reformed a debate or strife of 20. 1160. yeeres continuance was stirred vp kindled which endured vntill the Pope had troden on the necke of the Emperour in the Citie of Venice In the Councell of Lions 1243. Innocent the fourth made a decree against the Emperour Henry the second and granted to the Cardinals power and leaue to weare red hats and to ride on horsebacke In the Synode of Vienna in France 1311. Clement the fift solemnely pronounced his Clementines and albeit that afterwards lying on his death-bed he commanded they should be burned because he wel perceiued them to confirme diuers errors apt to entrappe or ensnare mens consciences This notwithstanding his successor Iohn the twentie three 1414. did againe appeare and ratifie the sayd Clementines The Emperour Sigismund caused a generall Councell to be summoned at Constance wherein Pope Iohn the twentie three was dismissed of the papall seate and Iohn Husse Hierome of Prage were condemned burned because they had embraced and followed the doctrine of Iohn Wicliffe an Englishman who among diuers other points of good doctrine taught that the Supper of the Lord ought to be distributed to the people vnder both kinds without the imagination and dreame of Transubstantiation In the time of the said Sigismund there was also a Councell held at Basil where it was decreed that Popes should be subiect to Councels and because this decree did greatly displease Pope Eugenius he caused the said Councell to be remoued to Bolona and from thence to Ferrara and from thence againe to Florence Finally Iulius the second assembled called the Councell of Laterane and Pope Paul the third the Councell of Trent but for so much as the proceedings in those Councels were not according to the rules prescribed in the word of God The Reformed mainetaine that they are not any way obliged or tied to their decrees So by that which is before alledged it manifestly appeareth say the Reformed what kind of Councells and Sinods haue beene held in those last ages by them of the Romane Church Now concerning the diuersitie of repugnances of Councells it is also easily to be discouered Repugnances of Councells For the Councell of Chalcedon condemned Eutiches but the Councell of Ephesus did absolue and acquite him The Councell of Nice condemned Arrius but the Councells of Saricea Smernia and Millan maintained vpheld him Dist 32. Con. praeter host The Councell of Numidia where Saint Cyprian was president would haue all those rebaptized which were baptized by Heretikes which the Councell of Carthage did absolutely forbid Dist 4. de Cons. con Non. host The Councell of Ephesus which was held in the time of Pope Celestine did permit to communicate vnder both kinds Dist 15. de Cons but that of Constance in the time of Iohn the twenty three and that of Lateran did rigorously forbid it The Councell of Chalaus did ratifie offerings for the dead that of Carthage reiected them The Councell of Ancyra of Nice of Gangrae of Coletan and of Elibere did all consent to the marriage of Priests and other Ecclesiasticall persons but the Councells of Nercesaria and of Chalcedon and of Agatha and diuers other Councels did secretly forbid the same The Councell of Toletua allowed Priests to keepe Concubines but the Councell of Carthage and that of Basill in the time of Eugenius the fourth did sharply forbid it The Councell of Pope Alexander did forbid to heare Masse by a Priest that kept a Concubine which Lucius the third did permit The Councell of Gangrets condemned all them that ordained or commanded new traditions to the people the which that of Constantinople did allow Dist 34. The Councell of Tolete con 2. and of Libere con 36. did reiect Images but that of Nice the second and diuers others did admit them What would yee more The Councell of Arminium denied the primacie of the Pope of Rome but that of Chalcedon the sixt and