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stranger_n a_o monster_n to_o former_a time_n we_o shall_v now_o prove_v and_o make_v clear_a that_o the_o power_n of_o ordination_n admonition_n excommunication_n absolution_n be_v not_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o any_o sole_a man_n 33._o first_o for_o ordination_n cyprian_a in_o his_o exile_n write_v to_o his_o charge_n certify_v they_o that_o aurelius_n be_v ordain_v by_o he_o and_o his_o colleague_n who_o be_v present_a with_o he_o who_o be_v these_o colleague_n but_o his_o presbyter_n as_o he_o himself_o expound_v it_o writing_z to_z lucius_z in_o his_o own_o name_n and_o the_o name_n of_o his_o clergy_n and_o people_n 58._o ego_fw-la &_o collegae_fw-la &_o fraternitas_fw-la omnis_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o and_o my_o colleague_n and_o my_o whole_a people_n send_v these_o letter_n to_o you_o etc._n etc._n so_o that_o it_o be_v clear_a in_o cyprian_n time_n presbyter_n have_v a_o hand_n in_o ordination_n and_o bishop_n do_v not_o ordain_v alone_o firmilianus_n say_v of_o they_o that_o rule_n in_o the_o church_n 75._o quod_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la manum_fw-la
sentence_n of_o saint_n ambrose_n syagrium_n because_o say_v he_o hoc_fw-la judicium_fw-la nostrum_fw-la cum_fw-la fratribus_fw-la &_o consacerdotibus_fw-la participatum_fw-la processerit_fw-la nor_o be_v there_o any_o kind_n of_o censure_n that_o the_o bishop_n do_v administer_v alone_o admonition_n be_v give_v by_o the_o elder_n 19_o augustine_n tell_v we_o the_o elder_n do_v admonish_v such_o as_o be_v offender_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n speak_v origen_n contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la lib._n 3._o sup_n so_o excommunication_n though_o that_o be_v the_o dreadful_a thunder_n of_o the_o church_n and_o as_o tertullian_n call_v it_o summum_fw-la praejudicium_fw-la futuri_fw-la judicij_fw-la the_o great_a forerunner_n of_o the_o judgement_n of_o god_n be_v never_o vibrate_v but_o by_o the_o hand_n of_o those_o that_o labour_v in_o the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n yet_o be_v no_o one_o man_n in_o the_o church_n invest_v with_o this_o power_n more_o than_o another_o therefore_o say_v heliodor_n hierom_n presbytero_fw-la si_fw-la peccavero_fw-la licet_fw-la i_o tradere_fw-la satanae_fw-la in_o interitum_fw-la carnis_fw-la if_o i_o sin_n a_o presbyter_n not_o a_o bishop_n only_o may_v deliver_v i_o to_o satan_n to_o the_o destruction_n etc._n etc._n where_o the_o reader_n may_v please_v to_o take_v notice_n that_o saint_n hierom_n speak_v not_o of_o one_o particular_a presbyter_n but_o of_o the_o order_n of_o presbyter_n the_o same_o s._n hierom_n say_v again_o sunt_fw-la quos_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la reprehendit_fw-la quos_fw-la interdum_fw-la abijcit_fw-la demet._n in_fw-la quos_fw-la nonnunquam_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la &_o clericorum_fw-la censura_fw-la desaevit_fw-la there_o be_v some_o who_o the_o church_n reprove_v and_o some_o which_o she_o cast_v out_o against_o who_o the_o censure_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n sharp_o proceed_v where_o we_o see_v the_o censure_n whereby_o wicked_a man_n be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o the_o sole_a hand_n of_o the_o bishop_n but_o likewise_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o presbyter_n syricius_n bishop_n of_o rome_n signify_v to_o the_o church_n of_o mâ—llaine_n that_o jovinianus_n auxentius_n etc._n etc._n be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n for_o ever_o and_o he_o set_v down_o how_o they_o do_v it_o omnium_fw-la nostrum_fw-la tam_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la quam_fw-la diaconorum_fw-la quam_fw-la totius_fw-la etiam_fw-la clerisciscitata_fw-la fuit_fw-la sententia_fw-la there_o be_v a_o concurrence_n of_o all_o presbyter_n 80._o deacon_n and_o the_o whole_a clergy_n in_o that_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n the_o truth_n herein_o may_v be_v further_o evidence_v by_o this_o because_o the_o whole_a clergy_n as_o well_o as_o the_o bishop_n impose_v hand_n uâ—on_o such_o as_o repent_v be_v absolve_v nec_fw-la ad_fw-la communicationem_fw-la say_v cyprâ—an_n venire_fw-la quis_fw-la possit_fw-la delictis_fw-la nisi_fw-la prius_fw-la ab_fw-la episcopo_fw-la &_o clero_fw-la manus_fw-la illi_fw-la fuerit_fw-la imposita_fw-la no_o man_n that_o have_v be_v excommunicate_v may_v return_v to_o church-communion_n before_o hand_n have_v be_v lay_v upon_o he_o by_o the_o bishop_n and_o clergy_n also_o write_v to_o his_o clergy_n concern_v lapse_v christian_n he_o tell_v they_o exomologe_n si_fw-la facta_fw-la &_o manu_fw-la eye_v a_o vobis_fw-la in_o poenitentiam_fw-la impositâ_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o after_o confession_n and_o the_o lay_n on_o their_o hand_n they_o may_v be_v commend_v unto_o god_n so_o when_o certain_a return_v from_o their_o heresy_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v into_o the_o church_n at_o rome_n in_o the_o time_n of_o cornelius_n 6._o they_o come_v before_o the_o presbytery_n and_o therefore_o confess_v their_o sin_n and_o so_o be_v admit_v but_o though_o the_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n be_v manage_v oneâ—y_o by_o the_o hand_n of_o those_o that_o labour_v in_o the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n yet_o we_o will_v not_o conceal_v from_o you_o that_o neither_o excommunication_n nor_o absolution_n do_v pass_v without_o the_o knowledge_n and_o approbation_n of_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n to_o which_o the_o deliquent_a do_v belong_v 39_o so_o we_o have_v learn_v out_o of_o tertullian_n that_o their_o censure_n be_v order_v in_o their_o public_a assembly_n and_o good_a reason_n because_o the_o people_n be_v to_o forbear_v communion_n with_o such_o 2_o thes._n 3.6_o 14_o 15._o and_o public_a censure_n of_o the_o church_n be_v inflict_v not_o only_o for_o the_o emendation_n of_o delinquent_n but_o for_o the_o admonition_n of_o other_o and_o therefore_o aught_o to_o be_v administer_v in_o public_a that_o other_o may_v fear_v 1_o tim._n 5.20_o origen_n speak_v of_o the_o duty_n and_o power_n of_o the_o church_n in_o cut_v off_o a_o scandalous_a person_n though_o a_o presbyter_n jâ—sh_n make_v the_o case_n his_o own_o he_o say_v thus_o in_o uno_fw-la consensu_fw-la ecclâ—sia_fw-la universa_fw-la conspirans_fw-la excidat_fw-la i_o dextram_fw-la svam_fw-la &_o projiciat_fw-la a_o se_fw-la he_o will_v have_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n in_o that_o act._n and_o when_o the_o lapse_v christian_n be_v receive_v again_o into_o the_o church_n the_o people_n consent_n be_v require_v therein_o else_o why_o shall_v cyprian_n say_v 55._o vix_fw-la plebi_fw-la persuadeo_fw-la imò_fw-la extorqueo_fw-la ut_fw-la tale_n patiantur_fw-la admitti_fw-la i_o can_v scarce_o persuade_v the_o people_n to_o suffer_v such_o to_o be_v admit_v and_o in_o another_o epistle_n write_v to_o his_o people_n in_o his_o banishment_n he_o promise_v to_o examine_v all_o thing_n they_o be_v present_a and_o judge_a plebem_fw-la examinabuntur_fw-la singula_fw-la praesentibus_fw-la &_o judicantibus_fw-la vobis_fw-la but_o of_o this_o power_n of_o the_o people_n we_o shall_v have_v a_o further_a occasion_n to_o speak_v afterward_o when_o we_o come_v to_o discourse_v of_o govern_v elder_n only_o may_v it_o please_v your_o honour_n from_o hence_o to_o take_v notice_n how_o unjust_o our_o bishop_n have_v invade_v this_o right_a and_o power_n of_o presbyter_n and_o people_n in_o church_n censure_n and_o divest_v both_o of_o it_o have_v gird_v it_o whole_o upon_o themselves_o and_o how_o herein_o they_o and_o the_o bishop_n of_o former_a time_n be_v two_o sect_n x._o and_o as_o our_o bishop_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o former_a time_n be_v two_o in_o point_n of_o sole_a jurisdiction_n so_o also_o in_o the_o delegation_n of_o this_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n unto_o other_o 2._o to_o their_o chancellor_n commissary_n officer_n etc._n etc._n be_v ever_o such_o a_o thing_n as_o this_o hear_v of_o in_o the_o best_a primitive_a time_n that_o man_n that_o never_o receive_v imposition_n of_o hand_n shall_v not_o only_o be_v receive_v into_o assistance_n but_o be_v whole_o entrust_v with_o the_o power_n of_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n even_o then_o when_o it_o be_v to_o be_v exercise_v over_o such_o person_n as_o have_v have_v hand_n lay_v upon_o they_o we_o may_v observe_v in_o cyprian_a whilst_o persecution_n separate_v he_o from_o his_o church_n when_o question_n do_v arise_v among_o his_o people_n he_o do_v not_o send_v they_o to_o his_o chancellor_n or_o commissary_n no_o he_o be_v so_o far_o from_o substitute_v any_o man_n much_o less_o a_o lay_v man_n to_o determine_v or_o give_v judgement_n in_o such_o case_n that_o he_o will_v not_o assume_v that_o power_n whole_o to_o himself_o but_o suspend_v his_o judgement_n till_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n shall_v restore_v he_o to_o his_o church_n again_o that_o with_o the_o advice_n and_o counsel_n of_o the_o presbyter_n he_o may_v give_v sentence_n as_o may_v appear_v to_o any_o that_o shall_v peruse_v his_o epistle_n sure_o if_o god_n have_v ever_o lead_v his_o church_n to_o such_o a_o way_n of_o deputation_n it_o will_v have_v be_v in_o such_o a_o case_n of_o necessity_n as_o this_o be_v or_o have_v any_o footstep_n of_o such_o a_o course_n as_o this_o be_v visible_a by_o this_o holy_a 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year_n till_o the_o presbyter_n be_v in_o a_o manner_n whole_o neglect_v the_o bishop_n have_v no_o ordinary_n vicar_n chancellor_n or_o commissary_n that_o be_v not_o clergyman_n
again_o we_o read_v of_o elder_a and_o elder_n presbyter_n and_o senior_n in_o one_o church_n both_o those_o passage_n be_v upon_o record_n in_o the_o public_a act_n which_o be_v more_o full_o set_v down_o by_o baronius_n ao._n 303._o num._n 15.16_o 17._o as_o also_o by_o albaspineus_n in_o his_o edition_n of_o optatus_n in_o which_o act_v the_o senior_n be_v often_o mention_v in_o that_o famous_a relation_n of_o the_o purge_n of_o cecilianus_n and_o felix_n there_o be_v a_o copy_n of_o a_o letter_n fratribus_fw-la &_o filiis_fw-la clero_fw-la &_o senioribus_fw-la fortis_fw-la in_o domino_fw-la aeternam_fw-la salutem_fw-la another_o letter_n be_v mention_v a_o little_a before_o clericis_fw-la &_o senioribus_fw-la cirthensium_fw-la in_o domino_fw-la aeternum_fw-la salutem_fw-la these_o senior_n be_v interest_v in_o affair_n concern_v the_o church_n as_o be_v the_o man_n by_o who_o advice_n they_o be_v manage_v the_o letter_n of_o purpurius_n to_o silvanus_n say_v adhibete_fw-la conclâ—ricos_fw-la &_o seniores_fw-la plebis_fw-la ecclesiasticos_fw-la viros_fw-la &_o inquirant_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la ista_fw-la dissensiones_fw-la ut_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la secundum_fw-la fidei_fw-la praecepta_fw-la fiant_fw-la where_o we_o see_v the_o joint_a power_n of_o these_o senior_n with_o the_o clergy_n in_o order_v ecclesiastical_a affair_n that_o by_o their_o wisdom_n and_o care_n peace_n may_v be_v settle_v in_o the_o church_n for_o which_o cause_n these_o senior_n be_v call_v ecclesiastical_a man_n and_o yet_o they_o be_v distinguish_v from_o clergy_n man_n they_o be_v mention_v again_o afterward_o by_o maximus_n say_v loquor_fw-la nomine_fw-la seniorum_n populi_n christiani_n greg._n mag._n distinguish_v they_o also_o from_o the_o clergy_n tabellarium_fw-la cum_fw-la consensu_fw-la seniorum_n &_o cleri_fw-la memineris_fw-la ordinandum_fw-la these_o senior_n have_v power_n to_o reprove_v offender_n otherwise_o why_o shall_v augustine_n say_v cum_fw-la ob_fw-la errorem_fw-la aliquem_fw-la à _fw-la senioribus_fw-la arguuntur_fw-la &_o imputatur_fw-la alicui_fw-la cur_n ebrius_fw-la fuerit_fw-la dom._n cur_n res_fw-la alienas_fw-la pervaserit_fw-la etc._n etc._n when_o they_o be_v by_o the_o elder_n reprove_v for_o their_o error_n and_o drunkenness_n be_v lay_v to_o a_o man_n charge_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o it_o be_v proper_a to_o the_o senior_n to_o have_v the_o cognizance_n of_o delinquent_n and_o to_o reprove_v they_o 2._o the_o same_o augustine_n in_o psalm_n 36._o necesse_fw-la nos_fw-la fuerat_fw-la primianicausam_fw-la quem_fw-la etc._n etc._n seniorun_n literis_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la postulantibus_fw-la audire_fw-la be_v request_v by_o letter_n from_o the_o senior_n of_o that_o church_n it_o be_v needful_a for_o i_o to_o hear_v the_o the_o cause_n of_o primian_n etc._n etc._n so_o again_o optatus_n who_o mention_v a_o persecution_n that_o do_v for_o a_o while_n scatter_v the_o church_n say_v erant_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ex_fw-la auro_fw-la &_o argento_fw-la quam_fw-la plurima_fw-la ornamenta_fw-la quae_fw-la nec_fw-la defodere_fw-la terrae_fw-la nec_fw-la secum_fw-la portare_fw-la poterat_fw-la quare_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la senioribus_fw-la commendavit_fw-la albaspinâ—us_n that_o learned_a antiquary_n on_o that_o place_n acknowledge_v that_o beside_o the_o clergy_n there_o be_v certain_a of_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o people_n man_n of_o approve_a life_n that_o do_v tend_v the_o affair_n of_o the_o church_n of_o who_o this_o place_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v by_o all_o these_o testimony_n it_o be_v apparent_a first_o that_o in_o the_o ancient_a church_n there_o be_v some_o call_v senior_n second_o that_o these_o senior_n be_v not_o clergy_n man_n three_o that_o they_o have_v a_o stroke_n in_o govern_v the_o church_n and_o manage_v the_o affair_n thereof_o four_o that_o senior_n be_v distinguish_v from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o people_n 32._o neither_o wouâ—d_v we_o desire_v to_o 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