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A31482 Certain briefe treatises written by diverse learned men, concerning the ancient and moderne government of the church : wherein both the primitive institution of episcopacie is maintained, and the lawfulnesse of the ordination of the Protestant ministers beyond the seas likewise defended, the particulars whereof are set downe in the leafe following. 1641 (1641) Wing C1687A; ESTC R8074 96,833 184

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both_o see_v the_o apostle_n and_o confer_v with_o they_o unto_o ibid._n unto_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibid._n eleutherius_fw-la who_o when_o irenaeus_n write_v have_v the_o charge_n of_o that_o bishopric_n in_o the_o twelve_o place_n after_o the_o apostle_n concern_v who_o and_o the_o integrity_n which_o then_o continue_v in_o each_o other_o succession_n from_o the_o apostle_n day_n hegesippus_n who_o at_o the_o same_o time_n publish_v his_o history_n of_o the_o church_n say_v thus_o 〈◊〉_d thus_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hegesip_n apud_fw-la euseb_n lib._n 4._o hist_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d soter_n succeed_v anicetus_n and_o after_o he_o be_v eleutherius_fw-la now_o in_o every_o succession_n and_o in_o every_o city_n all_o thing_n so_o stand_v as_o the_o law_n and_o the_o prophet_n and_o our_o lord_n do_v preach_v when_o this_o 4._o this_o cum_fw-la elcutherius_fw-la vir_fw-la sanctus_fw-la pontificatui_n romanae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la praeesset_fw-la misit_fw-la 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to_o preach_v the_o truth_n though_o as_o yet_o it_o be_v not_o reveal_v unto_o they_o but_o when_o the_o light_n have_v begin_v to_o shine_v and_o to_o discover_v among_o other_o popish_a impurity_n the_o abomination_n of_o your_o sacrifice_a priesthood_n they_o who_o eye_n be_v open_v to_o see_v the_o same_o can_v not_o with_o a_o good_a conscience_n receive_v imposition_n of_o hand_n from_o your_o bishop_n because_o they_o will_v ordain_v none_o but_o in_o a_o popish_a manner_n to_o a_o popish_a priesthood_n and_o that_o with_o a_o oath_n to_o maintain_v the_o pope_n and_o his_o abuse_n for_o otherwise_o neither_o luther_n will_v have_v ordain_v nor_o learned_a man_n receive_v ordination_n from_o he_o or_o from_o any_o other_o but_o only_a from_o bishop_n which_o thing_n say_v 7._o say_v georg._n princeps_fw-la anhaltin_n contion_n super_fw-la matth._n 7._o prince_n anhalt_n we_o always_o and_o m._n luther_n of_o most_o godly_a memory_n both_o in_o word_n and_o in_o writing_n yea_o and_o in_o public_a sermon_n in_o the_o cathedral_n church_n