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A20950 A learned treatise of traditions, lately set forth in French by Peter Du Moulin, and faithfully done into English by G.C.; Des traditions et de la perfection et suffisance de l'Escriture Saincte. English Du Moulin, Pierre, 1568-1658.; G. C. 1631 (1631) STC 7329; ESTC S111075 138,687 440

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moreover_o our_o nature_n can_v apprehend_v all_o thing_n at_o once_o but_o by_o progress_n and_o succession_n of_o time_n neither_o be_v it_o capable_a of_o all_o truth_n at_o a_o time_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v then_o to_o abuse_v the_o holy_a ghost_n that_o an●oynteth_v christ_n member_n with_o ointment_n and_o that_o operate_v until_o thi●_n instant_a to_o reject_v all_o that_o have_v not_o bee●_n speak_v by_o the_o apostle_n whereupon_o he_o conclude_v therefore_o may_v ther●_n be_v new_a tradition_n concern_v faith_n and_o manner_n though_o they_o be_v never_o make_v or_o explicate_v by_o the_o apostle_n now_o i_o leave_v to_o judge_v with_o wha●_n conscience_n it_o may_v be_v maintain_v that_o the_o tradition_n be_v ancient_a and_o apostolical_a see_v that_o our_o adversary_n do_v confess_v that_o there_o be_v many_o of_o they_o modern_a and_o new_a whereof_o the_o apostle_n never_o speak_v word_n and_o to_o the_o end_n that_o no_o man_n may_v conceive_v these_o new_a tradition_n to_o be_v spongy_a &_o of_o no_o weight_n unnecessary_a or_o unessentiall_a to_o christian_n religion_n he_o speak_v direct_o that_o the_o new_a tradition_n be_v touch_v faith_n and_o manner_n and_o that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n re●●veth_v yet_o a_o addition_n even_o in_o ●ings_n that_o be_v essential_a
pag._n 1009._o et_fw-fr quat_n aux_fw-fr auteris_fw-la plus_fw-la proche_n du_fw-fr siecle_fw-mi apostouque_n encore_fw-fr qu'il_fw-fr ne_fw-fr s'y_fw-fr trowe_fw-mi pas_fw-fr de_fw-fr vestage_n de_fw-fr vesta_fw-mi coustume_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 994._o quelques_fw-fr particuliers_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d que_fw-fr les_fw-fr ames_o des_fw-fr fideles_fw-la 〈◊〉_d point_fw-fr la_fw-fr visin_n be_v di●●_n avant_fw-fr be_v augament_n final_a etc._n etc._n l'eglise_fw-fr n'avcit_fw-fr point_fw-fr incore_fw-fr prononce_n la_fw-fr decisian_n la_fw-fr dessus_fw-fr be_v due_a to_o be_v the_o best_a verse_v in_o the_o study_n of_o the_o father_n confesf_v free_o that_o in_o the_o author_n near_o approach_v to_o the_o apostle_n time_n there_o appear_v no_o trace_n of_o this_o custom_n of_o invoke_a saint_n yea_o he_o acknowledge_v that_o then_o when_o s._n augustine_n write_v which_o be_v some_o 420._o year_n after_o the_o birth_n of_o our_o saviour_n the_o doctrine_n of_o those_o which_o hold_v that_o the_o saint_n know_v not_o the_o occurrence_n of_o thing_n act_v here_o below_o be_v not_o condemn_v and_o that_o the_o church_n have_v not_o yet_o make_v a_o decision_n thereupon_o and_o indeed_o all_o that_o our_o adversary_n allege_v out_o of_o the_o father_n of_o the_o three_o first_o age_n and_o more_o than_o half_a the_o four_o upon_o this_o question_n be_v passage_n ser_z ving_z to_o prove_v that_o the_o saint_n pray_v for_o we_o which_o be_v a_o point_n that_o willing_o we_o condescend_v unto_o but_o not_o to_o prove_v it_o behooveful_a for_o we_o to_o invoke_v the_o saint_n nor_o to_o allow_v they_o a_o religious_a service_n the_o approbation_n of_o the_o book_n maccabee_n 3._o maccabee_n of_o maccabee_n among_o other_o book_n divine_a and_o canonical_a be_v insert_v by_o our_o adversary_n in_o their_o unwritten_a tradition_n yet_o this_o be_v not_o a_o tradition_n receive_v from_o the_o begin_n by_o all_o the_o catholic_a psalmorum_fw-la le_fw-fr concile_v de_fw-fr laodice●_n can._n 58._o mel●●●●_n a●●gué_fw-fr pour_fw-fr eusebe_fw-fr ●●_o 5._o lib●●●_n foni_fw-la histoirà_fw-la chap._n 24._o origene_n sur●●s_v premier_n ps_n 〈◊〉_d par_fw-fr e●seb_n lib._n 6_o cap._n 24_o tertull_n ●●_o 4_o liure_fw-fr de_fw-fr ses_fw-fr carmes_fw-fr eujebe_fw-la chron._n olymp._n 116._o 〈◊〉_d cateeltesi_fw-la quarta_fw-la athanas_n epost_n 39_o &_o synop_n nazianz_a ca●●●n_n epiph._n de_fw-fr mensuris_fw-la et_fw-la ponderibus_fw-la hilar._n prologo_fw-la psalmorum_fw-la church_n the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n reject_v they_o and_o meliton_n bishop_n of_o sardius_n near_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o origen_n and_o tertullian_n and_o eusebius_n and_o athanasius_n and_o cyril_n of_o jerusalem_n and_o hilary_n and_o gregory_n of_o nazianzene_n and_o amphilochius_n bishop_n of_o iconia_n and_o epiphanius_n bishop_n of_o salamine_n and_o philustreus_n bishop_n of_o bresse_n and_o saint_n jerome_n in_o prologue_n galeato_fw-la and_o in_o his_o preface_n upon_o the_o book_n of_o solomon_n and_o ruffian_n upon_o the_o lord_n prayer_n all_o of_o these_o be_v person_n remarkable_a in_o the_o three_o and_o four_o age●_n yea_o and_o pope_n gregory_n the_o 1._o who_o write_v near_o upon_o the_o end_n of_o the_o five_o age_n in_o the_o 19_o of_o his_o moral_n chap._n the_o 17_o as_o we_o have_v prove_v elsewhere_o in_o amplemanner_n wherefore_o this_o be_v no_o tradition_n receive_v whole_o and_o at_o all_o time_n by_o the_o church_n universal_a by_o this_o very_a plea_n the_o romish_a indulgence_n 4._o indulgence_n indulgence_n ought_v to_o be_v reject_v the_o which_o indulgence_n i_o understand_v to_o be_v a_o tradtion_n wherewith_o the_o pope_n heap_v up_o the_o superfluity_n of_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o the_o saint_n to_o the_o treasure_n of_o the_o church_n and_o convertech_v they_o to_o payment_n for_o other_o by_o his_o indulgence_n which_o he_o hoard_v in_o certain_a church_n of_o rome_n and_o cause_v that_o the_o people_n from_o all_o part_n repair_v thither_o to_o purchase_v pardon_n i_o say_v that_o these_o indulgence_n be_v new_a and_o that_o neither_o the_o apostle_n nor_o their_o disciple_n do_v convert_v the_o superaboundance_n of_o the_o suffering_n of_o abrabam_fw-la or_o of_o saint_n john_n the_o baptist_n or_o of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n to_o payment_n for_o other_o and_o keep_v no_o treasury_n to_o hold_v the_o superabounding_a satisfaction_n of_o the_o saint_n and_o give_v no_o pardon_n of_o one_o or_o two_o hundred_o thousand_o year_n as_o the_o pope_n do_v and_o that_o these_o indulgence_n have_v be_v altogether_o unknown_a in_o the_o first_o age_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n by_o the_o plain_a confession_n of_o our_o adversary_n cardinal_n cajetan_n in_o the_o 2._o chap._n of_o his_o treatise_n of_o indulgence_n have_v these_o word_n cup._n word_n de_fw-fr ertu_fw-fr indulgentiarun_n si_fw-la certitude_n habert_n posset_n veritati_fw-la indàganda_fw-la opem_fw-la ferret_n verum_fw-la quia_fw-la nulla_fw-la sacra_fw-la scriptura_fw-la nulla_fw-la priscorum_fw-la docto●un_v graecorun_n aut_fw-la l●●inorun_n au_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d asscripra_fw-la have_v ad_fw-la nostram_fw-la deduxit_fw-la notitiam_fw-la sed_fw-la he_o solum_fw-la a_o treemtis_fw-la enn●_n scriprurae_fw-la commendatum_fw-la &_o de_fw-fr ve_fw-la tustus_fw-la pa●●tbus_fw-la etc._n etc._n gabrtel_n biel_n lect._n 57_o decendum_fw-la quod_fw-la ante_fw-la tempora_fw-la b._n gregorij_fw-la modicus_fw-la vel_fw-la ●ullus_fw-la fuit_fw-la usus_fw-la indulgentiarum_fw-la nu●●●_n autem_fw-la crebrescit_fw-la 〈◊〉_d usu●_n quiae_fw-la sine_fw-la dubis_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la habens_fw-la spiritan_n sponsi_fw-la sut_fw-la christi_fw-la et_fw-la idcirco_fw-la non_fw-la errans_fw-la etc._n etc._n navan_n we_o comment_n de_fw-fr jobel_n ●t_a indutg_n pag._n 545_o quate_fw-la autent_n apud_fw-la ant●q●os_fw-la tam_fw-la rara_fw-la &_o apud_fw-la recentiores_fw-la tam_fw-la frequens_fw-la sit_fw-la indulgentiarum_fw-la mentio_fw-la docuit_fw-la ille_fw-la vit_fw-mi sanctissimus_fw-la etc._n etc._n i●hannis_n roffensis_n c●_n 〈◊〉_d ea_fw-la de_fw-fr re_fw-mi verborum_fw-la summa_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la certo_fw-la constat_fw-la à_fw-la 〈◊〉_d primum_fw-la tradi_fw-la coeperint_fw-la etc._n etc._n quod_fw-la multa_fw-la a●_n evangelijs_fw-la ●t_a alijs_fw-la scripturu_fw-la nunc_fw-la sunt_fw-la ●xcusa_fw-la ●ucu●●ntius_fw-la &_o intellectu_fw-la perspicacius_fw-la quam_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la olim_fw-la quod_fw-la nemo_fw-la ●●_o dubitat_fw-la orthodoxus_fw-la a_o purgat●rium_fw-la sit_fw-la de_fw-la quo_fw-la tamen_fw-la apud_fw-la priscos_fw-la illos_fw-la nulla_fw-la vel_fw-la quam_fw-la rarissima_fw-la fiebat_fw-la mentio_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la fuit_fw-la tam_fw-la necessaria_fw-la sive_fw-la purgat●rij_fw-la sive_fw-la indulg●ti●rum_fw-la fides_fw-la explicita_fw-la in_o ●rimitiva_fw-la ecclesia_n atque_fw-la ●unc_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n anton._n sum._n ●●_o s._n theolog._n art_n 1._o tit_n 10._o 3._o de_fw-mi indul._n l._n 202._o ve●tijs_fw-la ann_n ●82_n 5._o bridgeent_n of_o cup._n if_o we_o can_v have_v any_o certainty_n concern_v the_o original_n of_o indulgence_n it_o will_v help_v as_o much_o in_o the_o disquisition_n of_o the_o truth_n but_o we_o have_v not_o by_o write_v any_o authority_n either_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n or_o of_o ancient_a doctor_n greek_a or_o latin_a that_o afford_v we_o the_o least_o knowledge_n thereof_o gabriel_n biel_n lect._n 57_o upon_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o mass_n we_o must_v confess_v that_o before_o the_o time_n of_o gregory_n that_o be_v to_o say_v in_o the_o six_o first_o age_n the_o use_n of_o indulgence_n be_v very_o little_a or_o none_o at_o all_o but_o now_o the_o practice_n of_o they_o be_v grow_v frequent_a for_o without_o doubt_v the_o churoh_n have_v the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n her_o spouse_n and_o therefore_o err_v not_o navarrus_n the_o pope_n penitentiary_n what_o be_v the_o cause_n that_o among_o the_o ancient_n so_o little_a mention_n be_v make_v of_o indulgence_n and_o among_o it_o the_o modern_a they_o be_v in_o such_o use_n john_n of_o rochester_n most_o holy_a and_o reverend_a for_o his_o dignity_n of_o bishop_n and_o cardinal_n have_v teach_v we_o the_o reason_n say_v that_o the_o explicit_a faith_n whether_o it_o be_v of_o purgatory_n or_o of_o indulgence_n be_v not_o so_o necessary_a in_o the_o primitive_a church_n as_o now_o and_o a_o little_a after_o while_o st_o there_o be_v no_o heed_n take_v to_o purgatory_n no_o man_n inquire_v after_o romish_a indulgence_n because_o thereupon_o depend_v the_o proper●y_n and_o worth_a of_o they_o antonine_n archbishop_n of_o florence_n who_o the_o pope_n canonize_v for_o a_o saint_n speak_v to_o the_o same_o purpose_n touch_v indulgence_n we_o have_v nothing_o express_o recite_v in_o holy_a scripture_n although_o the_o say_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v allege_v upon_o this_o subject_n 1_o cor._n if_o i_o have_v pardon_v any_o thing_n i_o have_v do_v it_o for_o your_o sake_n in_o the_o person_n of_o christ_n nor_o be_v find_v at_o all_o in_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n but_o of_o the_o modern_a it_o be_v therefore_o no_o small_a abuse_n to_o place_n indulgence_n among_o apostolic_a tradition_n of_o the_o same_o rank_n be_v that_o tradition_n which_o exclude_v the_o people_n from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o cup_n it_o
with_o the_o fire_n of_o the_o last_o judgement_n particular_o chrysostome_n be_v of_o opinion_n that_o the_o soul_n can_v not_o be_v torment_v without_o the_o body_n as_o he_o speak_v in_o his_o 39_o homily_n upon_o the_o 1._o to_o the_o corinthian_o and_o in_o the_o same_o passage_n where_o his_o 3._o homily_n upon_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o philippian_n be_v object_v to_o we_o he_o suppose_v that_o the_o dead_a which_o be_v comfort_v by_o lamentation_n and_o prayer_n be_v not_o the_o faithful_a but_o the_o infidel_n so_o as_o this_o passage_n make_v altogether_o against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n though_o saint_n augustine_n be_v punctual_a and_o excellent_a in_o this_o subject_n as_o we_o have_v see_v yet_o they_o will_v make_v he_o a_o advocate_n to_o plead_v for_o unwritten_a tradition_n in_o matter_n concern_v the_o faith_n this_o holy_a father_n have_v believe_v and_o we_o with_o he_o that_o the_o necessary_a doctrine_n which_o concern_v faith_n and_o manner_n be_v sufficient_o contain_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o for_o some_o certain_a custom_n ceremony_n and_o outward_a observation_n because_o they_o be_v general_o receive_v he_o believe_v they_o be_v derive_v from_o ancient_a unwritten_a tradition_n it_o become_v none_o to_o gainsay_v this_o but_o frantickes_n or_o such_o as_o be_v give_v to_o a_o contradict_a humour_n and_o be_v enemy_n to_o the_o peace_n good_a reason_n for_o it_o to_o give_v you_o some_o instance_n celebra●ur_fw-la aug._n ad_fw-la januar_n epist_n 118._o illa_fw-la qua_fw-la non_fw-la scripta_fw-la sed_fw-la tradita_fw-la custodimus_fw-la quae_fw-la quidem_fw-la toto_fw-la terrarum_fw-la orbe_fw-la servantur_fw-la dantur_fw-la intelligi_fw-la vel_fw-la ab_fw-la ipsis_fw-la apostolu_fw-la vel_fw-la pleparijs_fw-la concilijs_fw-la quorun_v est_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la saluberrima_fw-la authoritas_fw-la commendata_fw-la atque_fw-la statuta_fw-la retine_fw-la 1._o sicut_fw-la quod_fw-la domini_fw-la passio_fw-la et_fw-la resurrectio_fw-la &_o ascensio_fw-la in_o coelu_fw-la et_fw-la adventus_fw-la de_fw-fr coelo_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la anniversaria_fw-la solemnitate_fw-la celebra●ur_fw-la it_o be_v not_o command_v in_o the_o scripture_n to_o celebrate_v annual_o the_o day_n of_o our_o saviour_n nativity_n nor_o of_o the_o paschall_n nor_o of_o the_o lord_n resurrection_n nor_o of_o pentecost_n which_o be_v the_o day_n whereo●_n the_o holy_a ghost_n descend_v upon_o the_o apostle_n for_o saint_n augustine_n in_o his_o 118._o epistle_n bring_v these_o example_n where_o he_o say_v to_o stir_v up_o dissension_n hereupon_o for_o matter_n in_o their_o own_o nature_n not_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o authorize_v by_o the_o general_a custom_n of_o so_o many_o age_n shall_v be_v according_a to_o my_o judgement_n &_o according_a to_o the_o truth_n a_o despiteful_a perverseness_n yea_o a_o symptom_n of_o distraction_n confound_v all_o concord_n and_o quietness_n in_o like_a manner_n do_v 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