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A16701 The apologie of the Romane Church deuided into three seuerall tractes whereof 1. The first, concerneth the antiquitie and continuance of the Catholike Romane religion ever since the Apostles time. 2. The second that the Protestantes religion was not so much as in being, at or before Luthers first appearing. 3. The thirde that Catholickes are no lesse loyall and dutifull to their soveraigne, then Protestantes. All which are vndertaken and proued by testimonies of the learned Protestantes themselues. Anderton, Lawrence.; Anderton, James, fl. 1624, attributed name. 1604 (1604) STC 3604; ESTC S119868 294,461 212

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never_o heretofore_o troth_n 2._o c._n 2._o sect_n 1._o initio_fw-la pag._n 91._o at_o z._n a._n b._n c._n d._n want_v pastor_n and_o doctor_n that_o these_o shall_v r._n shall_v tract_n 2._o c._n 2._o sect_n 1._o circa_fw-la med_n pag._n 92_o at_o p._n q._n r._n always_o resist_v f_z l_o e_o doctrine_n with_o open_a reprehension_n that_o also_o the_o true_a church_n can_v never_o be_v without_o y._n without_o tra._n 2._o c._n 2._o sect_n 1_o paulo_fw-la p_o st_o medium_n pag._n 92._o at_o y._n the_o administration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n that_o z._n that_o i●idem_fw-la pag._n 92._o at_o z._n the_o only_a absence_n of_o they_o d●th_o make_v a_o n●ll_v tie_v of_o the_o church_n and_o that_o c._n that_o ibidem_fw-la prope_fw-la finem_fw-la pa._n 93._o at_o c._n th●se_a note_n be_v needful_a to_o distinguish_v the_o true_a church_n from_o the_o false_a that_o man_n careful_a of_o ●heir_n salvatio_fw-la may_v know_v where_o the_o true_a church_n be_v a_o d_o t●_n which_o company_n they_o o_o ght_n to_o adhere_v 2_o second_o that_o th●_n common_a in_o his_o an●●es_n or_o example_n of_o 98._o of_o tract_n 2._o cap._n 2._o sect_n 3._o pag._n 98._o waldo_n 105._o waldo_n tract_n 2._o cap._n 2._o s●ct_n 4._o pag._n 105._o ●●ic_a iffe_n 109._o iffe_n tract_n 2._o cap._n 2._o sect_n 5._o pag._n 109._o huse_n 11._o huse_n track_v 2._o cap._n 2_o sect_n 10._o pag._n 126._o 127._o etc._n etc._n at_o his_o ct_n 11._o luther_n &_o their_o follower_n alledg●d_v ●●●al_a y●●●●r●o●mance_n hereof_o be_v find_v insuf●cient_a to_o pro●●_n a_o continuance_n of_o these_o prem_fw-la ss_n but_o so_o much_o as_o for_o those_o time_n in_o which_o they_o first_o begin_v or_o l●ued_v and_o that_o no_o 120._o no_o heretofore_o troth_n 2._o c._n 2_o sect_n 7._o pag._n 115._o 116._o 1●7_n 118._o 119._o &_o 120._o sufficient_a example_n thereof_o during_o those_o time_n and_o sundry_a other_o age_n before_o can_v be_v give_v 3_o three_o that_o in_o steed_n of_o example_n in_o this_o 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question_n of_o that_o other_o doctrine_n or_o in_o comparison_n rather_o innovation_n whereto_o your_o majesty_n vouchsafe_v this_o gracious_a favour_n since_o last_o the_o objection_n of_o disloyalty_n urge_v against_o we_o by_o our_o adversary_n be_v retort_v 2._o retort_v heretofore_o tract_n 3._o sect_n 2._o full_o upon_o themselves_o &_o we_o find_v 5._o find_v heretofore_o tract_n 3._o sect_n 3._o &_o 4._o &_o 5._o to_o deserve_v at_o the_o least_o as_o well_o as_o they_o some_o part_n of_o that_o princely_a favour_n which_o they_o without_o our_o repine_a thereat_o in_o ●reater_a measure_n do_v enjoy_v therefore_o all_o prostrate_a before_o your_o royal_a majesty_n we_o do_v most_o humble_o pray_v even_o by_o our_o holy_a communion_n of_o faith_n with_o she_o who_o soul_n be_v now_o bless_a in_o heaven_n &_o her_o memory_n upon_o the_o earth_n to_o your_o majesty_n most_o dear_a and_o to_o we_o reverend_a and_o by_o the_o most_o humble_a intercession_n of_o our_o allegiance_n and_o ever_o resolve_v loyalty_n that_o your_o highness_n will_v of_o your_o princely_a clemency_n grant_v we_o so_o much_o favour_n as_o the_o undoubted_a example_n of_o all_o former_a and_o present_a time_n and_o the_o confess_a doctrine_n both_o of_o father_n and_o protestant_n assembly_n protestant_n hereof_o m._n covell_n in_o his_o examination_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 199._o post_n med_n say_v concern_v the_o jew_n a_o prince_n may_v lawful_o permit_v they_o to_o dwell_v in_o his_o kingdom_n etc._n etc._n the_o law_n of_o the_o emperor_n have_v permit_v the_o like_a and_o some_o of_o the_o father_n but_o special_o s._n austin_n be_v so_o favourable_a to_o they_o that_o he_o allege_v several_a reason_n for_o the_o do_v of_o it_o etc._n etc._n and_o peter_n martyr_n in_o his_o common_a place_n in_o english_a part_n 2._o pag._n 329._o b._n fine_a affirm_v likewise_o that_o they_o may_v be_v tolerate_v among_o christian_n &_o have_v also_o synagogue_n etc._n etc._n but_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o grant_v unto_o turk_n relig●ous_a assembly_n afford_v even_o to_o the_o misbelieve_a jew_n vouchsafe_v so_o for_o our_o humble_a thought_n presume_v no_o high_a but_o that_o we_o may_v adore_v 13._o adore_v act._n 3_o 13._o the_o god_n of_o our_o fa●●ers_n with_o our_o private_a freedom_n and_o liberty_n of_o conscience_n the_o integrity_n of_o our_o ancient_a catholic_a faith_n and_o confess_v current_n of_o so_o many_o former_a age_n spend_v in_o profession_n thereof_o from_o the_o time_n of_o our_o country_n fi●st_a conversion_n with_o all_o honour_n to_o your_o majesty_n most_o noble_a ancestor_n can_v in_o our_o opinion_n no_o less_o than_o claim_v it_o the_o distress_a and_o miserable_a condition_n of_o so_o many_o your_o catholic_a and_o loyal_a subject_n altogether_o need_v it_o our_o long_a continued_a hope_n of_o your_o princely_a clemency_n with_o cheerful_a expectation_n of_o mild_a time_n to_o ensue_v under_o your_o highness_n
time_n see_v before_o tract_n 2_o cap._n 2._o sect_n 3._o b._n x._o y._n of_o anno_fw-la 1218._o in_o which_o waldo_n first_o appear_v the_o like_a be_v show_v of_o wicliffe_n who_o live_v anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 1370._o and_o his_o follower_n sect_n 4._o as_o concern_v john_n wycliffe_n and_o his_o follower_n he_o as_o mr._n foxe_n report_v medium_n report_v act._n mon._n 85._o a._n post_n medium_n flourish_v anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 1371._o be_v our_o countryman_n and_o so_o far_o before_o his_o first_o appear_v from_o be_v of_o any_o church_n in_o which_o the_o protestant_n administration_n of_o the_o worde_n and_o sacrament_n be_v then_o continue_v whereof_o as_o appear_v by_o mr._n foxe_n admonere_fw-la foxe_n mr._n fox_n act_n mon._n p._n 85._o b._n initio_fw-la affirm_v that_o out_o of_o all_o doubt_n all_o the_o world_n be_v in_o a_o m●st_o desperate_a &_o vile_a estate_n and_o that_o lamentable_a ignorance_n and_o darkness_n of_o god_n truth_n have_v overshadow_a the_o whole_a earth_n when_o john_n wycliffe_n step_v forth_o etc._n etc._n as_o the_o morning_n star_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o a_o cloud_n and_o mr_o fox_n act_n mon._n print_v 1596._o page_n 391._o b._n line_n 60._o say_v that_o in_o time_n of_o horrible_a darkness_n when_o there_o seem_v in_o a_o manner_n to_o be_v no_o one_o so_o little_a spark_n of_o pure_a doctrine_n leave_v or_o remaininge_a wycliffe_n by_o god_n providence_n rise_v up_o through_o who_o the_o lord_n will_v first_o waken_v and_o raise_v up_o again_o the_o world_n etc._n etc._n and_o osiander_n in_o his_o epitome_n hist_o eccles_n centur_fw-la 9_o 10._o 11._o page_n 439_o post_v med_n say_v libri_fw-la wycleu●_n non_fw-la per_fw-la omne_fw-la sunt_fw-la pur●_n non_fw-la enim_fw-la habuit_fw-la tum_fw-la coaetaneos_fw-la qui_fw-la potuissent_fw-la eum_fw-la sicubi_fw-la longius_fw-la extra_fw-la metas_fw-la progressus_fw-la fuisset_fw-la fraterne_n admonere_fw-la and_o other_o not_o so_o much_o as_o any_o entry_n or_o be_v can_v be_v to_o he_o then_o know_v that_o he_o himself_o be_v then_o before_o a_o catholic_a priest_n even_o the_o initio_fw-la the_o mr._n stow_n annal_n of_o england_n faithful_o collect_v etc._n etc._n print_v 1592._o pa._n 464_o initio_fw-la parson_n of_o lutterworthe_n in_o leicestershire_n and_o as_o mr_n stowe_n in_o his_o annuall_n or_o chronicle_n dedicate_v to_o the_o new_a lord_n archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n abridge_v his_o story_n med_n story_n stowe_n ibid._n pag._n 425._o post_n med_n he_o first_o inuey_v against_o the_o church_n f●r_o that_o he_o have_v be_v deprive_v by_o the_o archbishope_n of_o canterbury_n from_o a_o certain_a benefice_n etc._n etc._n and_o have_v so_o upon_o this_o occasion_n separate_v himself_o from_o the_o church_n in_o which_o he_o former_o be_v supra_fw-la be_v stow_z ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la he_o with_o his_o disciple_n go_v barefooted_a and_o base_o clothe_v in_o course_n russet_a garment_n down_o to_o the_o heel_n and_o medium_n and_o stow_z ibidem_fw-la page_n 426_o ante_fw-la medium_n seem_v to_o contemn_v all_o temporal_a good_n for_o the_o love_n of_o eternal_a riches_n adjoin_v himself_o to_o the_o b●gging_a friar●_n approve_v their_o poverty_n and_o extol_v their_o perfection_n retain_v also_o his_o foe_n mer_fw-fr catholic_a opinion_n concern_v consecrandi_fw-la concern_v wyclews_fw-la de_fw-la blasphemia_fw-la ap_fw-mi 17._o mencion_v aqua_n benedicta_fw-la say_v withal_o in_o proof_n thereof_o habuerunt_fw-la christi_fw-la discipuli_fw-la potestatem_fw-la corpora_fw-la tam_fw-la rationabilia_fw-la quam_fw-la irrationabilia_fw-la consecrandi_fw-la holy_a water_n dei_fw-la water_n wyclews_n de_fw-fr eucharistia_n cap._n 9_o say_v adoramus_fw-la imagine_v unde_fw-la ut_fw-la signa_fw-la etc._n etc._n conceditur_fw-la ergo_fw-la quod_fw-la reliquiae_fw-la imagine_v &_o sacramenta_fw-la sunt_fw-la cum_fw-la prudentia_fw-la adoranda_fw-la and_o in_o decalogo_fw-la super_fw-la primo_fw-la mandato_fw-la cap._n 15._o he_o say_v introductae_fw-la sunt_fw-la imagine_v in_o ecclesiam_fw-la ut_fw-la sint_fw-la libri_fw-la laicorum_fw-la &_o signa_fw-la recordativa_fw-la singulis_fw-la christianis_fw-la ut_fw-la adorent_fw-la debitè_fw-fr sanctos_fw-la dei_fw-la the_o worship_v of_o relic_n and_o image_n etc._n image_n wyclews_n in_o serm_n de_fw-fr assumptione_n mariae_fw-la say_v hic_fw-la videtur_fw-la mihi_fw-la quod_fw-la impossibile_fw-it est_fw-la nos_fw-la praemiari_fw-la sine_fw-la mariae_fw-la suffragio_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o intercession_n of_o our_o bless_a lady_n st._n marry_o the_o principio_fw-la the_o wyclews_fw-la de_fw-la tractatu_fw-la degradationibus_fw-la scholasticis_fw-la c._n 3._o say_v of_o they_o sunt_fw-la docta_fw-la implicitè_fw-fr in_fw-la sva_fw-la specie_fw-la vel_fw-la svo_fw-la principio_fw-la and_o that_o supposita_fw-la quacunque_fw-la tali_fw-la caeremonia_fw-la virtuosa_fw-la vel_fw-la licita_fw-la fuit_fw-la docta_fw-la per_fw-la appositione_n in_o su●_n principio_fw-la apparel_n and_o tonsure_v of_o priest_n the_o etc._n the_o wyclews_fw-la de_fw-la apostasia_fw-la c._n 18._o mention_v and_o allow_v they_o and_o joannes_n przibraws_n a_o heretic_n who_o live_v near_o the_o same_o time_n in_o professione_n fidei_fw-la c._n 28_o say_v joannes_n wyclews_fw-la libro_fw-la de_fw-la apostasia_fw-la cap._n 18._o approbat_fw-la totum_fw-la ritum_fw-la missae_fw-la a_o principio_fw-la ferè_fw-la usque_fw-la ad_fw-la finem_fw-la etc._n etc._n rite_n and_o ceremony_n of_o the_o mass_n consecrato_fw-la mass_n wyclews_fw-la ad_fw-la caput_fw-la primum_fw-la prioris_fw-la ad_fw-la corinth_n say_v vnctio_fw-la extrema_fw-la est_fw-la medicina_fw-la ad_fw-la sanandum_fw-la peccatum_fw-la ut_fw-la patet_fw-la jacobi_fw-la 5._o affirm_v there_o further_o that_o it_o be_v make_v cum_fw-la oleo_fw-la olivae_fw-la ab_fw-la episcopo_fw-la consecrato_fw-la extreme_a unction_n and_o all_o etc._n all_o wyclews_n in_o postilla_fw-la super_fw-la 15._o c._n marci_n number_v and_o mention_v they_o all_o and_o in_o postilla_fw-la super_fw-la 1._o cor._n 1._o he_o further_o say_v quaedam_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la etc._n etc._n per_fw-la se_fw-la promulgavit_fw-la christus_fw-la ut_fw-la baptismum_fw-la eucharistiam_fw-la ordinem_fw-la &_o poenitentiam_fw-la quaedam_fw-la autem_fw-la per_fw-la apostolos_fw-la ut_fw-la confirmationem_fw-la &_o extremam_fw-la vnctionem_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o s●aven_n sacrament_n and_o all_o those_o sundry_a other_o point_n of_o our_o catholic_a faith_n now_o in_o question_n with_o denial_n whereof_o he_o be_v not_o find_v somuch_o as_o charge_v 2_o second_o he_o hold_v sundry_a strange_a and_o damnable_a heresy_n as_o amongst_o other_o that_o 4._o that_o act._n mon._n page_n 96._o a._n art_n 4._o &_o b._n art_n 15._o osiander_n in_o epitome_n hist_o eccles_n centur_fw-la 9_o 10._o 11._o &_o pag._n 452._o art_n 4._o if_o a_o bishope_n or_o priest_n be_v in_o deadly_a sin_n he_o do_v not_o order_n consecrate_v nor_o baptise_v 36._o baptise_v act_n mon._n page_n 96._o a._n fine_a &_o 93._o b._n art_n 12._o &_o osiander_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la page_n 453._o art_n 10._o &_o page_n 458._o art_n 36._o that_o ecclesiastical_a minister_n shall_v not_o have_v any_o temporal_a p●ss●ssions_n or_o proprium_fw-la or_o melancthon_n in_o epist_n ad_fw-la frideric_n miconium_n extante_n in_o libro_fw-la epistolarum_fw-la suinglij_fw-la &_o oecolampadij_fw-la page_n 622_o initio_fw-la say_v of_o wycliffe_n contendit_fw-la presbiteris_fw-la non_fw-la licere_fw-la ut_fw-la possideant_fw-la quicquam_fw-la proprium_fw-la property_n in_o any_o thing_n but_o shall_v tenere_fw-la shall_v melancthon_n loc_fw-la comun_n de_fw-fr potest_fw-la eccles_n it_o m_v say_v illa_fw-la wyclevica_fw-la superstitio_fw-la pernitiosa_fw-la &_o seditiosa_fw-la est_fw-la quae_fw-la adigit_fw-la ministros_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la ad_fw-la mendicitatem_fw-la &_o negate_fw-la eye_v licere_fw-la proprium_fw-la tenere_fw-la beg_v 43._o beg_v osiander_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la p_o 459._o art_n 43._o he_o condemn_v lawful_a oath_n savour_v therein_o say_v osiander_n of_o anabaptism_n he_o also_o teach_v th●t_v initium_fw-la th●t_v osiander_n cent_n pag._n 457._o prope_fw-la initium_fw-la all_o thing_n come_v to_o pass_v by_o absolute_a necessity_n whi●h_o be_v stoical_a and_o as_o for_o the_o protestant_n doctrine_n of_o justification_n it_o be_v so_o unknown_a to_o he_o that_o as_o waldensis_n who_o live_v in_o the_o same_o time_n with_o he_o affirm_v he_o exceed_v in_o the_o contrary_a defend_v 9_o defend_v waldensis_fw-la tom_n 3._o cap._n 7._o 8._o 9_o human_a merritte_n as_o the_o damnable_a heretic_n pelagius_n hold_v they_o in_o so_o much_o that_o melancthon_n say_v accord_o of_o wicliffe_n iustitiam_fw-la wicliffe_n melancthon_n in_o epist_n ad_fw-la frideric_n mico●_n in_o lib._n epist_n suinglij_fw-la &_o oecolampadij_fw-la page_n 622._o prope_fw-la initium_fw-la say_v prorsus_fw-la nec_fw-la intellexit_fw-la nec_fw-la tenuit_fw-la fidei_fw-la iustitiam_fw-la very_o he_o do_v not_o understand_v nor_o hold_v the_o justice_n of_o faith_n and_o doubeth_n not_o with_o all_o to_o say_v of_o he_o ibid._n he_o melancthon_n ibid._n i_o have_v find_v in_o he_o many_o other_o error_n whereby_o one_o may_v judge_v of_o his_o spirit_n last_o to_o omit_v diverse_a other_o he_o hold_v as_o melancthon_n term_v it_o rixatur_fw-la it_o melancthon_n ibidem_fw-la say_v of_o wycliffe_n de_fw-fr domino_fw-la civili_fw-la sophisticè_fw-la plané_fw-fr &_o seditiosè_fw-la rixatur_fw-la a_o see_v litiouse_a doctrine_n and_o mother_n
steed_n thereof_o be_v thereby_o understand_v the_o last_o 1260._o year_n before_o luther_n by_o mr._n napeir_n upon_o the_o revelation_n proposition_n 15_o pa._n 22._o 23._o 24._o by_o mr._n brocard_n upon_o the_o reviation_n fol._n 110._o a._n and_o by_o master_n gifford_n upon_o the_o revelat_fw-la pag._n 890._o post_n med_n be_v the_o first_o that_o dissuade_v luther_n from_o further_a say_v of_o mass_n if_o now_o then_o that_o luther_n himself_o be_v at_o first_o a_o catholic_a and_o our_o adversary_n in_o steed_n of_o plain_a instance_n or_o example_n to_o be_v give_v of_o their_o church_n impugn_v of_o error_n of_o her_o pastor_n doctor_n administration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n during_o but_o the_o foresay_a 20._o year_n next_o before_o luther_n do_v answer_v we_o that_o they_o be_v as_o then_o persecute_v we_o reply_n to_o they_o from_o themselves_o aswell_o that_o no_o persecution_n of_o man_n can_v frustrate_v the_o foresay_a ordinance_n of_o god_n make_v to_o his_o church_n in_o this_o behalf_n as_o also_o that_o persecution_n p._n persecution_n see_v heretofore_o track_v 2._o c._n 2_o sect_n 8._o at_o o._n p._n make_v she_o most_o know_a and_o therefore_o we_o ask_v as_o before_o who_o these_o be_v that_o be_v as_o then_o so_o persecute_v if_o they_o say_v that_o for_o fear_n of_o persecution_n they_o dare_v not_o profess_v their_o faith_n and_o so_o escape_v unknown_a we_o again_o tell_v they_o from_o themselves_o that_o r_o that_o see_v heretofore_o track_v 2._o c._n 2._o sect_n 11._o 1._o l._n p._n q._n r_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o as_o then_o the_o true_a church_n and_o we_o urge_v yet_o further_o that_o the_o fear_n of_o persecution_n can_v be_v no_o such_o let_v to_o they_o after_o that_o sundry_a common_a wealth_n and_o magistrate_n have_v undertake_v the_o public_a profession_n &_o defence_n of_o luther_n doctrine_n but_o that_o as_o then_o at_o the_o least_o if_o any_o such_o have_v be_v in_o be_v they_o may_v safe_o have_v show_v themselves_o and_o join_v in_o comunion_n with_o luther_n if_o last_o they_o say_v that_o their_o pastor_n and_o doctor_n administration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n be_v as_o then_o visible_a and_o know_v and_o that_o now_o since_o all_o testimony_n thereof_o be_v suppress_v to_o omit_v what_o have_v be_v 9_o be_v see_v heretofore_o tract_n 2._o c._n 2._o sect_n 9_o already_o sufficient_o say_v against_o this_o and_o to_o admit_v also_o that_o all_o our_o catholic_a writer_n shall_v so_o strange_o have_v pass_v they_o only_o over_o in_o silence_n remember_v all_o other_o as_o the_o annabaptistes_n swenefeldian_n etc._n etc._n why_o yet_o shall_v luther_n zuinglius_fw-la and_o the_o other_o protestant_a writer_n forbear_v to_o mention_v they_o the_o cause_n we_o take_v to_o be_v evident_a and_o only_o for_o that_o during_o the_o foresay_a 20._o year_n before_o luther_n they_o be_v not_o know_v to_o be_v so_o much_o as_o but_o in_o be_v in_o any_o one_o nation_n of_o the_o world_n which_o thing_n be_v in_o our_o opinion_n not_o obscurelye_o grant_v rather_o than_o signify_v by_o our_o learned_a adversary_n themselves_o to_o this_o end_n our_o learned_a adversary_n joannes_n regius_n acknowledge_v that_o the_o church_n be_v even_o they_o show_v they_o joannes_n regius_n be_v urge_v in_o this_o kind_n do_v in_o his_o libre_fw-la apologeticus_fw-la etc._n etc._n pag._n 176._o circa_fw-la &_o post_fw-la med_n answer_v thereto_o say_v negas_fw-la lutherum_n suae_fw-la fidei_fw-la caetum_fw-la invenisse_fw-la etc._n etc._n dico_fw-la fuisse_fw-la ante_fw-la lutherum_n verae_fw-la religionis_fw-la &_o qui_fw-la cum_fw-la luthero_n per_fw-la omni●_n consentiret_fw-la caetum_fw-la ecclesi●sticum_fw-la but_o come_v to_o answer_v where_o this_o congregation_n w●s_v to_o be_v then_o find_v he_o have_v no_o other_o refuge_n but_o say_v there_o that_o it_o be_v a_o ●ontificijs_fw-la non_fw-la agnitus_fw-la nec_fw-la propter_fw-la tyranniden_n pontificiam_fw-la visibiliter_fw-la fortassis_fw-la ostendi_fw-la non_fw-la potuerit_fw-la iucoque_fw-la quando_fw-la urgent_a jesuitae_n ut_fw-la lutherus_n verae_fw-la religionis_fw-la ass_n clam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la ostendat_fw-la etc._n etc._n volunt_fw-la ut_fw-la lutherus_n oppositum_fw-la in_o adiecto_fw-la demonstret_fw-la &_o invisibile_fw-la visibile_fw-la probet_fw-la etc._n etc._n interim_n tamen_fw-la absurdum_fw-la est_fw-la ita_fw-la argumentari_fw-la haec_fw-la res_fw-la ab_fw-la alijs_fw-la non_fw-la agnoscitur_fw-la nec_fw-la potest_fw-la etiam_fw-la videri_fw-la aut_fw-la demonstrari_fw-la ideoque_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la in_o rerum_fw-la n●tura_fw-la etc._n etc._n so_o plain_o do_v he_o be_v urge_v to_o particular_n acknowledge_v his_o pretend_a congregation_n at_o luther_n come_v to_o have_v be_v then_o invisible_a and_o not_o able_a to_o be_v show_v invisibl●_n and_o can_v not_o be_v show_v and_o mr._n jewel_n affirm_v according_o that_o finem_fw-la that_o mr._n jewel_n in_o his_o aplogie_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n part_n 4._o c._n 4._o division_n 2._o and_o in_o his_o defence_n of_o the_o apology_n print_v anno_fw-la 1571._o pag._n 426_o prope_fw-la finem_fw-la the_o truth_n be_v unknown_a at_o that_o time_n &_o unheard_a of_o when_o martin_n luther_n and_o hulderi●h_n zuinglius_fw-la first_fw-mi come_v unto_o the_o knowledge_n and_o preach_v of_o the_o gospel_n mr._n parkine_v s●ith_n in_o like_a manner_n christo_fw-la manner_n mr._n parkins_n in_o his_o exposition_n upon_o the_o creed_n pag._n 400._o and_o caluin_n in_o his_o book_n of_o epistle_n print_a hannoviae_n 1597._o ep_n 141._o pag._n 273._o paulo_fw-la post_fw-la med_n say_v according_o ad●urdum_n est_fw-la postquam_fw-la discessionem_fw-la a_o toto_fw-la mundo_fw-la facere_fw-la coacti_fw-la sumus_fw-la inter_fw-la ipsa_fw-la principia_fw-la alios_fw-la ab_fw-la alijs_fw-la dissilire_fw-la and_o daniel_n chamierus_n in_o his_o epist_n jesuitic_a part_n altera_fw-la print_a genevae_fw-la 1601._o pag._n 49._o say_v hereof_o arianorun_n venenum_fw-la non_fw-la portiunculan_n quandam_fw-la feed_v pené_fw-fr totum_fw-la orbem_fw-la contaminaverat_fw-la etc._n etc._n in_o ea_fw-la nos_fw-la tempora_fw-la devinimus_fw-la quae_fw-la etiam_fw-la excedent_fw-la ariani_n furoris_fw-la co●fusionem_fw-la non_fw-la portiunculam_fw-la unam_fw-la aut_fw-la alteram_fw-la error_n occupavit_fw-la sed_fw-la totum_fw-la ●orpus_fw-la apostasia_fw-la avertit_fw-la a_o christo_fw-la we_o say_v that_o before_o the_o day_n of_o luther_n for_o the_o space_n of_o many_o hundred_o year_n a_o universal_a apostasy_n overspread_v the_o whole_a face_n of_o the_o earth_n and_o that_o our_o church_n be_v not_o then_o visible_a to_o the_o world_n in_o so_o much_o as_o bucer_n do_v therefore_o call_v luther_n initio_fw-la luther_n primum_fw-la aposiolum_fw-la purioris_fw-la euangelij_fw-la bucer_n in_o epist_n anno._n 36._o ad_fw-la episcopum_fw-la hereford_n &_o vide_fw-la conradum_fw-la schlusselburg_n in_o theolog_n caluinistarum_fw-la l._n 2_o fol._n 17._o a._n initio_fw-la the_o first_o apostle_n of_o the_o reform_a doctrine_n who_o vocation_n say_v our_o adversary_n be_v by_o reason_n of_o the_o then_o general_a defection_n of_o a●l_a protestant_n pastor_n r._n pastor_n see_v before_o tract_n 2._o c._n 2._o sect_n 10._o fine_a at_o q._n r._n immediate_a and_o extraordinary_a the_o cource_n of_o initium_fw-la of_o bez●_n ep_v 5._o al●m●nno_fw-la paulo_fw-la post_fw-la initium_fw-la ordinary_a vocation_n be_v then_o no_o where_n extant_a and_o the_o lutheran_n do_v affirm_v it_o finem_fw-la it_o conrade_n schlustelburg_n ibid._n l._n 2._o fol._n 130._o b._n versus_fw-la finem_fw-la impudency_n to_o say_v that_o many_o learned_a m●n_z in_o germany_n before_o luther_n do_v h●uld_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o a_o other_o of_o they_o further_o say_v si_fw-la antecessores_fw-la lutherus_n in_fw-la officio_fw-la habuisset_fw-la orthodoxos_fw-la etc._n etc._n 137._o etc._n georgius_n milius_n in_o augustan_n confess_v explicat_fw-la art_n 7._o de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la pag._n 137._o if_o there_o have_v be_v right_a believer_n that_o go_v b●fore_o lu●her_o in_o his_o office_n etc._n etc._n there_o have_v then_o be_v no_o need_n of_o a_o lutheraine_a reformation_n 138._o reformation_n georgius_n miluis_fw-la ibid._n pag._n 138._o therefore_o say_v he_o we_o say_v that_o luther_n be_v raise_v up_o divinitus_fw-la &_o extra_fw-la ordinem_fw-la by_o god_n special_a appointment_n and_o extraordinary_o and_o a_o other_o lutherane_n writer_n affirm_v it_o 145._o it_o benedict_n morgenstern_n tract_n de_fw-fr ecclesia_fw-la pag._n 145._o ridiculous_a to_o think_v that_o in_o the_o time_n b●fore_o lu●h●r_a any_o have_v the_o purity_n of_o doctrine_n and_o that_o luther_n shall_v receive_v it_o from_o they_o and_o not_o they_o from_o luther_n consider_v say_v he_o it_o be_v manifest_a to_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n that_o before_o luther_n time_n all_o church_n be_v overwhelm_v with_o more_o than_o cymeriane_n darkness_n and_o that_o luther_n be_v divine_o raise_v up_o to_o discover_v the_o same_o and_o to_o restore_v the_o light_n of_o true_a doctrine_n so_o plain_o do_v our_o adversary_n themselves_o in_o steed_n of_o instance_n or_o example_n to_o be_v give_v acknowledge_v to_o the_o contrary_a the_o utter_a defection_n
omnibus_fw-la gentibus_fw-la salutare_fw-la tuum_fw-la utique_fw-la t●les_fw-la ut_fw-la min●antur_fw-la ut_fw-la pauci_fw-la fi●nt_fw-la hinc_fw-la exeunt_fw-la a_fw-la multitudine_fw-la unitatis_fw-la omnes_fw-la exierunt_fw-la si●ut_fw-la p●ulo_n ante_fw-la commemoravi_fw-la dictum_fw-la de_fw-la illis_fw-la ex_fw-la nobis_fw-la exierunt_fw-la &c._n &c._n and_o aug._n tr●_n 3._o in_o ep_n jo●_a say_v omnes_fw-la haeretici_fw-la omnes_fw-la schismat_fw-la ex_fw-la nobis_fw-la exierunt_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la ex_fw-la ecl_n exeunt_fw-la father_n and_o initio_fw-la and_o see_v m._n al●s●n_o in_o h●s_n confutation_n of_o brow●●s●●e_n pag._n 1._o initio_fw-la protestant_n do_v not_o without_o evident_a reason_n note_v the_o sectemaster_n of_o their_o time_n for_o see_v that_o truth_n be_v ancient_a to_o heresy_n the_o which_o be_v but_o a_o denial_n of_o some_o part_n of_o the_o truth_n then_o in_o be_v and_o profess_a and_o that_o the_o sum_n of_o our_o christian_a religion_n be_v 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apparent_a defection_n of_o their_o church_n pastor_n administration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n that_o therefore_o protestant_n for_o preservation_n of_o christ_n church_n in_o be_v do_v acknowledge_v th●_n catholick●_n church_n to_o have_v be_v the_o tru●_n church_n and_o the_o religion_n thereof_o for_o sufficient_a to_o salvation_n sect_n 13._o which_o sai●le_a defection_n or_o want_n of_o their_o church_n pastor_n administration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n carry_v with_o it_o such_o a_o evident_a scandal_n or_o rather_o scroople_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o confess_a doctrine_n to_o the_o contrary_a of_o all_o man_n concern_v the_o true_a church_n which_o according_a to_o mansura_fw-la to_o m._n whitaker_n against_o m._n raynolde_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o preface_n pag._n 33._o say_v we_o believe_v to_o the_o comfort_n of_o our_o soul_n that_o christ_n church_n have_v continue_v and_o never_o shall_v fail_v so_o long_o as_o the_o world_n endure_v &_o we_o 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the_o true_a doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n disagrement_n be_v move_v concern_v thing_n indifferent_a good_a work_n our_o justice_n b●fore_o god_n freewill_n the_o presence_n and_o participation_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o s●pper_n the_o humanity_n of_o christ_n the_o propriety_n of_o his_o human_a nature_n his_o ascension_n and_o sit_v upon_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o god_n the_o ubiquity_n and_o other_o matter_n these_o thing_n be_v thus_o how_o now_o can_v our_o adversary_n avoid_v in_o these_o strait_n the_o dangerous_a sequel_n of_o their_o incertainty_n and_o ignorance_n in_o faith_n and_o religion_n for_o whereas_o the_o learned_a protestant_n hold_v that_o initio_fw-la that_o m._n bilson_n in_o his_o perpetual_a government_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 372._o initio_fw-la to_o have_v no_o judge_n for_o the_o en●ing_n of_o their_z ecclesiastical_a contention_n be_v the_o utter_a subversion_n of_o all_o peace_n affirm_v thereupon_o medium_n thereupon_o m._n bilson_n ibidem_fw-la pag._n 370._o post_v medium_n synod_n to_o be_v a_o external_a judicial_a mean_n to_o discern_v error_n and_o medium_n and_o m_o bilson_n ibidem_fw-la pag._n 374._o circa_fw-la medium_n the_o sure_a mean_n to_o decide_v doubt_n and_o that_o medium_n that_o m._n d_o covel_n in_o his_o modest_a examination_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 110._o ante_fw-la medium_n if_o synod_n want_v the_o church_n neither_o at_o any_o time_n be_v nor_o indeed_o can_v safe_o be_v without_o tempest_n themselves_o be_v yet_o upon_o unanswerable_a and_o just_a council_n just_a conradus_n schlusselburg_n in_o catall_a haereticorum_fw-la lib._n 13._o &_o ult._n pag._n 864._o post_v medium_n say_v hoc_fw-la nobis_fw-la potissimum_fw-la considerandum_fw-la videtur_fw-la num_fw-la hoc_fw-la tempore_fw-la inter_fw-la exterarum_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la theologos_fw-la &_o nostros_fw-la ulla_fw-la sinodus_fw-la indici_fw-la &_o cogi_fw-la possit_fw-la quis_fw-la onim_fw-la nostrum_fw-la sibi_fw-la arrogabit_fw-la ut_fw-la locum_fw-la constituat_fw-la diem_fw-la dicat_fw-la variarum_fw-la nationum_fw-la theologos_fw-la evocet_fw-la etc._n etc._n jan_n vero_fw-la in_o ipsa_fw-la synodo_fw-la quis_fw-la praesidebit_fw-la etc._n etc._n porro_fw-la quis_fw-la iudex_fw-la erit_fw-la inter_fw-la li●egantes_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o see_v the_o protestant_n auctor_fw-la of_o the_o book_n entitle_v laconici_fw-la antisturmij_fw-la sp●gia_fw-la adversus_fw-la lambertum_n danaeum_fw-la pag._n 44._o five_o where_o it_o be_v say_v magna_fw-la est_fw-la stultitia_fw-la provocare_fw-la ad_fw-la universalem_fw-la sinodum_fw-la quae_fw-la institui_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la sicut_fw-la ex_fw-la supradictis_fw-la manifestum_fw-la est_fw-la and_o whereas_o master_n whitaker_n lib._n ●e_z concilijs_fw-la pag._n 56._o circa_fw-la medium_n true_o teach_v that_o without_o authority_n no_o council_n can_v be_v assemble_v who_o now_o shall_v have_v this_o auctorttie_n to_o compel_v so_o many_o christian_a protestant_n prince_n so_o variablie_o different_a in_o religion_n and_o among_o who_o be_v no_o subordination_n to_o cause_v the_o divine_n of_o their_o several_a nation_n to_o assemble_v themselves_o to_o a_o council_n reason_n by_o they_o signify_v in_o utter_a despair_n to_o have_v any_o council_n assemble_v by_o the_o divine_v of_o their_o several_a church_n and_o nation_n therefore_o their_o foresay_a ignorance_n or_o incertainty_n all_o imaginary_a help_n to_o the_o contrary_a by_o counsel_n notwithstanding_o it_o be_v still_o to_o they_o so_o evident_a and_o unavoidable_a that_o their_o castalio_n *_o castalio_n see_v heretofore_o tract_n 2._o c._n 1._o sec_fw-la 5._o at_o this_o mark_n *_o a_o very_a learned_a caluinist_n say_v concern_v their_o reform_a church_n profecto_fw-la si_fw-la verum_fw-la fatere_fw-la volumus_fw-la etc._n etc._n bibl._n etc._n sebastian_z castalio_n in_o pretat_fw-la bibl._n true_o if_o we_o will_v confess_v the_o truth_n this_o our_o age_n be_v as_o yet_o 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