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for_o as_o i_o have_v before_o declare_v that_o be_v new_a in_o religion_n which_o be_v not_o most_o ancient_a 194_o pag._n 19â—_n 194_o yet_o i_o will_v wait_v upon_o his_o repetition_n a_o little_a and_o show_v that_o if_o the_o jesuite_n can_v derive_v his_o religion_n further_o than_o from_o the_o father_n the_o tradition_n whereupon_o it_o be_v build_v be_v then_o but_o humane_a &_o so_o a_o new_a thing_n even_o novelty_n itself_o and_o therefore_o tâ—rtullian_n tell_v we_o that_o be_v most_o true_a which_o be_v most_o ancient_a that_o most_o ancient_a which_o be_v from_o the_o beginning_n that_o from_o the_o beginning_n which_o from_o the_o apostle_n apostolic_a teâ—â—â—l_fw-it l._n 4_o aâ—_n mâ—rc_n id_fw-la veriâ—â—_n quod_fw-la â—râ—â—s_fw-la id_fw-la priâ—â—_n quod_fw-la est_fw-la ab_fw-la initio_fw-la ab_fw-la initio_fw-la quod_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolic_a how_o convince_a a_o argument_n than_o have_v the_o jesuite_n produce_v for_o his_o purpose_n will_v he_o find_v a_o 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that_o measure_v novelty_n as_o the_o jesuite_n do_v viderint_fw-la quibus_fw-la novum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la sibi_fw-la vetus_fw-la est_fw-la let_v they_o behold_v to_o who_o that_o be_v new_a which_o they_o apprehend_v as_o ancient_a cit_fw-la ancient_a tertul._n loco_fw-la ult._n cit_fw-la suppose_v that_o present_a heretic_n many_o time_n conclude_v that_o for_o ancient_a which_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n distaste_v as_o novelty_n beside_o if_o the_o jesuite_n collect_v aright_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v in_o many_o thing_n define_v for_o novelty_n against_o
pont._n l_o 4._o c._n 7_o cyprianus_n pertinaciter_fw-la restitit_fw-la stephano_n pontifici_fw-la doâ—â—â—ienti_fw-la haereticos_fw-la non_fw-la rebaprixandâ—â—_n ut_fw-la patet_fw-la ex_fw-la epistola_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la cypriani_fw-la ad_fw-la pompeiâ—â—_n &_o tamen_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la non_fw-la fuit_fw-la haereticus_fw-la sed_fw-la neque_fw-la mortaliter_fw-la peccavit_fw-la et_fw-la tamen_fw-la ecâ—â—esia_n cypriaâ—um_fw-la ut_fw-la sanctam_fw-la colit_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la videtur_fw-la unquam_fw-la resipuisse_fw-la ab_fw-la illo_fw-la svo_fw-la error_n to_o the_o african_a bishop_n in_o the_o cause_n of_o appeal_v fuerunt_fw-la appeal_v epist_n bonifacii_n â—_o ad_fw-la alex._n episc_n aurelius_n enim_fw-la praefatae_fw-la carthaginensis_n ecclesiae_fw-la olim_fw-la episcopus_fw-la cum_fw-la câ—llegis_fw-la suiâ—_n instigante_fw-la diabolo_fw-it superbire_fw-la temporibus_fw-la praedecessorum_fw-la noâ—â—â—orum_fw-la bonifacii_n atque_fw-la coelestiâ—i_fw-la contra_fw-la romanam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la coepit_fw-la sed_fw-la videâ—s_fw-la se_fw-la modo_fw-la peccatis_fw-la aurelij_fw-la eulalius_n à _fw-la romanae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la communione_fw-la segregatum_fw-la humiliam_fw-la recognovit_fw-la se_fw-la pacem_fw-la &_o communionem_fw-la romanae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la petens_fw-la subscribendo_fw-la non_fw-la cum_fw-la collegis_fw-la suiâ—_n damnavit_fw-la apostolica_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la omnes_fw-la scripturas_fw-la quae_fw-la adversus_fw-la romanae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la privilegia_fw-la factae_fw-la quoquo_fw-la ingenio_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la must_v all_o africa_n not_o afford_v one_o bishop_n that_o be_v catholic_a or_o layman_n that_o be_v a_o right_a christian_a and_o true_a catholic_a how_o be_v they_o acknowledge_v martyr_n how_o saint_n beside_o i_o wonder_v that_o this_o truth_n never_o appear_v in_o canon_n of_o council_n nor_o be_v ever_o register_v by_o the_o father_n in_o the_o age_n mention_v with_o general_a consent_n for_o that_o phrase_n upon_o this_o rock_n i_o know_v the_o church_n be_v build_v meaning_n s._n peter_n chair_n i_o dare_v say_v with_o reverence_n to_o s._n hierome_n that_o it_o be_v either_o upon_o christ_n or_o peter_n confession_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n as_o the_o father_n in_o multitude_n do_v interpret_v it_o or_o upon_o peter_n himself_o who_o your_o own_o will_v have_v thâ—_n rock_n and_o not_o upon_o peter_n â—haire_n which_o be_v not_o of_o such_o a_o unmooveable_a stability_n â—s_v that_o rock_n ought_v to_o be_v upon_o which_o the_o church_n be_v build_v further_o i_o think_v mr_n malone_n will_v not_o deâ—y_v that_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n be_v lay_v before_o peter_n have_v any_o chair_n either_o at_o antioch_n or_o at_o rome_n and_o if_o he_o say_v s._n hierome_n mean_v not_o his_o chair_n but_o in_o relation_n to_o peter_n then_o who_o can_v deny_v but_o all_o the_o apostle_n be_v rock_n as_o peter_n be_v petrae_fw-la omnes_fw-la apostoli_fw-la all_o the_o apostle_n be_v rock_n upon_o which_o the_o church_n be_v build_v say_v origen_n 1._o origen_n origen_n in_o mat._n hom_n 1._o the_o jesuite_n proceed_v and_o bring_v two_o place_n from_o st_n augustine_n if_o we_o will_v believe_v he_o to_o be_v the_o author_n of_o the_o question_n of_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n for_o to_o make_v this_o other_o than_o a_o counterfeit_n he_o shall_v never_o be_v able_a but_o what_o say_v he_o that_o may_v procure_v such_o a_o universal_a pre-eminence_n to_o this_o only_a father_n why_o he_o be_v call_v caput_fw-la fidelium_fw-la head_n of_o the_o faithful_a 51._o faithful_a reply_v pag._n 51._o so_o may_v every_o priest_n in_o his_o parish_n unless_o his_o flock_n be_v infidel_n and_o for_o the_o other_o title_n pastor_n gregis_fw-la dominici_n pastor_n of_o our_o lord_n flock_v ibid._n reply_v ibid._n what_o bishop_n be_v not_o pastor_n of_o the_o flock_n of_o christ_n but_o papal_a bishop_n who_o poor_a delegate_n have_v not_o their_o institution_n from_o christ_n but_o as_o poor_a hireling_n from_o the_o papacy_n in_o the_o second_o place_n the_o jesuite_n tell_v we_o that_fw-mi s._n augustiâ—â—_n give_v this_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o the_o principality_n or_o supremacy_n of_o the_o see_v apostolic_a have_v always_o bear_v sway_n therein_o 52_o therein_o reply_v pag._n 52_o this_o father_n will_v not_o serve_v the_o jesuite_n turn_v without_o a_o gloss_n principality_n &_o supremacy_n must_v be_v the_o same_o so_o the_o jesuite_n will_v have_v it_o for_o if_o this_o be_v not_o true_a augustine_n forsake_v his_o engager_n but_o the_o jesuite_n may_v know_v that_o principality_n be_v not_o papal_a dominion_n there_o be_v a_o primatuâ—_n or_o principality_n of_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n 27._o constantinople_n theodoret._n l._n 2_o c_o 27._o and_o a_o primatus_fw-la or_o primacy_n of_o the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n 6._o 〈◊〉_d l._n 7._o â—_o 6._o into_o which_o seat_n ascend_v none_o of_o these_o monarch_n he_o come_v to_o the_o principality_n of_o a_o see_v or_o bishopric_n that_o enter_v by_o orderly_a election_n as_o augustine_n acknowledge_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n to_o have_v do_v and_o a_o man_n may_v get_v a_o principality_n in_o the_o church_n by_o sedition_n and_o ambition_n as_o leo_n express_v himself_o to_o the_o bishop_n of_o africa_n 〈◊〉_d leo_n epist_n 87._o ad_fw-la episc_n africanos_n principatus_fw-la autem_fw-la quem_fw-la seditio_fw-la exâ—orfit_v auâ—_n ambitus_fw-la occupavit_fw-la etiam_fw-la si_fw-la â—oribus_fw-la atque_fw-la actibus_fw-la non_fw-la â—ssendâ—t_fw-la ip_n 〈◊〉_d tamen_fw-la iniâ—â—â—â—ui_fw-la est_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d what_o he_o can_v pick_v out_o of_o the_o word_n apostolical_a have_v be_v answer_v before_o next_o to_o the_o master_n he_o produce_v the_o scholar_n prosper_v in_o two_o place_n but_o to_o no_o more_o purpose_n or_o advantage_n then_o the_o former_a for_o who_o will_v deny_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o prosper_v time_n in_o regard_n of_o her_o outward_a eminency_n to_o be_v make_v the_o head_n of_o pastoral_a honour_n unto_o the_o world_n 52_o world_n reply_v pag._n 52_o and_o that_o she_o be_v more_o conspicuous_a by_o be_v a_o tower_n to_o religion_n in_o defend_v the_o faith_n against_o heretic_n then_o by_o exercise_v any_o power_n not_o temporal_a prosper_n temporal_a no_o such_o word_n in_o the_o original_a quotation_n out_o of_o prosper_n as_o the_o jesuite_n add_v but_o ecclesiastical_a that_o be_v give_v he_o by_o counsel_n whereby_o we_o may_v see_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o rome_n now_o and_o then_o their_o eminency_n their_o honour_n than_o be_v extend_v arce_fw-la religionis_fw-la by_o defend_v the_o true_a faith_n your_o holy_a father_n now_o seek_v advancement_n solio_fw-la potestatis_fw-la by_o obtain_v a_o monarchy_n and_o bring_v all_o power_n but_o hell_n that_o must_v triumph_v over_o you_o â—â—_o you_o revel_v 19_o â—â—_o into_o 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