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A12768 Maschil vnmasked In a treatise defending this sentence of our Church: vidz. the present Romish Church hath not the nature of the true Church. Against the publick opposition of Mr. Cholmley, and Mr. Butterfield, two children revolted in opinion from their owne subscription, and the faith of their mother the Church of England. By Thomas Spencer. Spencer, Thomas, fl. 1628-1629. 1629 (1629) STC 23073; ESTC S117745 62,307 124

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