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A06635 Via tuta the safe vvay. Leading all Christians, by the testimonies, and confessions of our best learned aduersaries, to the true, ancient, and catholique faith, now professed in the Church of England. By Humfrey Lynde Knight. Lynde, Humphrey, Sir. 1628 (1628) STC 17097; ESTC S109009 96,512 358

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missae_fw-la lect._n 28._o pet._n lomb._n senten_n lib._n 4._o do_v 45._o it_o be_v not_o certain_a say_v biel_n but_o it_o may_v seem_v probable_a that_o god_n reveal_v unto_o saint_n all_o those_o suit_n which_o man_n present_v unto_o they_o and_o say_v peter_n lombard_n it_o be_v not_o incredible_a that_o the_o soul_n of_o saint_n hear_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o suppliant_n here_o be_v nothing_o but_o probability_n and_o uncertainty_n and_o yet_o admit_v it_o be_v more_o than_o probable_a that_o they_o do_v hear_v our_o prayer_n yet_o there_o be_v no_o certainty_n that_o all_o such_o be_v saint_n which_o be_v canonize_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n ibid._n accedit_fw-la quod_fw-la miracula_fw-la quae_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la suscipiuntur_fw-la in_o canonizationibus_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la quae_fw-la tamen_fw-la maximè_fw-la authentica_fw-la sunt_fw-la cum_fw-la humano_fw-la testimonio_fw-la innitantur_fw-la non_fw-la omnino_fw-la certa_fw-la sunt_fw-la quoniam_fw-la etc._n etc._n caret_fw-la in_o epusc_n de_fw-fr concep_n virg._n mar._n ca._n 1._o fidei_fw-la christianae_n certitudo_fw-la non_fw-la humano_fw-la mor●_n certa_fw-la esse_fw-la debet_fw-la sed_fw-la infallibile_fw-la omnino_fw-la debet_fw-la habere_fw-la testimonium_fw-la caret_fw-la ibid._n it_o can_v be_v know_v infallible_o say_v caietan_n that_o the_o miracle_n whereon_o the_o church_n ground_v the_o canonization_n of_o saint_n be_v true_a by_o reason_n the_o credit_n thereof_o depend_v on_o the_o report_n of_o man_n who_o may_v deceive_v other_o and_o be_v deceive_v themselves_o and_o upon_o this_o uncertainty_n saint_n austin_n complain_v in_o his_o day_n that_o many_o be_v torment_v with_o the_o devil_n who_o be_v worship_v by_o man_n on_o earth_n who_o reason_n and_o authority_n be_v so_o undoubted_o true_a 9_o bellar._n the_o sanct_a beat._n lib._n 1._o c._n 9_o that_o bellarmine_n have_v no_o way_n to_o avoid_v it_o but_o with_o a_o fortasse_fw-la etc._n etc._n peradventure_o say_v he_o it_o be_v none_o of_o augustine_n and_o yet_o if_o bellarmine_n answer_n be_v true_a which_o be_v but_o
with_o great_a devotion_n and_o cardinal_n caietan_n 17._o exit_fw-la pauli_n doctrinâ_fw-la habetur_fw-la quòd_fw-la melius_fw-la est_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesie_n edificationem_fw-la orationes_fw-la publicas_fw-la quae_fw-la audiente_fw-la populo_fw-la dicuntur_fw-la dici_fw-la linguà_fw-la communi_fw-la clerici_fw-la &_o populo_fw-la quam_fw-la dici_fw-la latinè_n caiet_fw-mi come_v in_o cap._n 14.1_o ad_fw-la cor._n v._n 17._o who_o have_v often_o perform_v the_o public_a service_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n in_o the_o church_n yet_o contrary_a to_o his_o practice_n profess_v it_o be_v better_a by_o saint_n paul_n doctrine_n for_o the_o edify_n of_o the_o church_n that_o public_a prayer_n be_v make_v in_o a_o vulgar_a tongue_n to_o be_v understand_v indifferent_o by_o priest_n and_o people_n then_o in_o latin_a and_o gabriel_n biel_n be_v so_o far_o from_o approve_v the_o vocal_a prayer_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n 62._o oportet_fw-la quod_fw-la vocalis_fw-la oratio_fw-la immotescat_fw-la populo_fw-la etc._n etc._n in_o can._n miss_n lect_v 62._o that_o on_o the_o contrary_n he_o give_v seven_o special_a reason_n why_o it_o shall_v be_v understand_v by_o the_o people_n first_o because_o it_o stir_v up_o the_o mind_n to_o inward_a devotion_n second_o it_o inlightn_v the_o mind_n three_o it_o cause_v a_o better_a remembrance_n of_o thing_n speak_v in_o the_o time_n of_o prayer_n four_o it_o keep_v the_o thought_n from_o wander_a five_o it_o cause_v a_o more_o full_a performance_n of_o our_o duty_n both_o in_o body_n and_o soul_n sixthly_a there_o be_v a_o better_a redundance_n from_o the_o soul_n to_o the_o body_n by_o a_o vehement_a affection_n and_o devotion_n seventh_o it_o be_v better_a for_o the_o instruction_n of_o our_o brethren_n and_o which_o be_v observable_a the_o rhemist_n themselves_o in_o their_o annotation_n upon_o saint_n paul_n epistle_n touch_v prayer_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n make_v this_o confession_n when_o a_o man_n pray_v in_o a_o strange_a tongue_n which_o himself_o understand_v not_o 14._o rhem._n testan_n in_o annot._n 1._o cor._n 14._o it_o be_v not_o so_o fruitful_a for_o instruction_n to_o he_o as_o if_o he_o know_v particular_o what_o he_o pray_v look_v upon_o their_o worship_n of_o image_n worship_n image_n worship_n and_o their_o own_o erasmus_n tell_v we_o tulius_n it_o be_v more_o safe_a to_o remove_v image_n out_o of_o church_n then_o to_o pray_v to_o they_o catechesi_fw-la ut_fw-la fàcilius_fw-la est_fw-la ita_fw-la tutius_fw-la quoque_fw-la omnes_fw-la imagine_v è_fw-la templis_fw-la summovere_fw-la etc._n etc._n erasm_n in_o catechesi_fw-la that_o the_o mind_n may_v be_v altogether_o free_a from_o superstition_n for_o no_o man_n can_v be_v free_a from_o show_n of_o superstition_n that_o be_v prostrate_a before_o a_o image_n and_o do_v look_v on_o it_o intentional_o and_o do_v speak_v unto_o it_o and_o kiss_v it_o nay_o although_o he_o do_v but_o only_o pray_v before_o a_o image_n and_o say_v cassander_n it_o be_v better_o in_o these_o time_n to_o invite_v man_n to_o worship_v the_o true_a image_n of_o god_n in_o relieve_v the_o poor_a imaginibu●_n cass_n consult_v de_fw-fr imaginibu●_n then_o to_o worship_v the_o work_n of_o man_n hand_n and_o withal_o conclude_v their_o opinion_n be_v more_o sound_n which_o say_v that_o a_o image_n neither_o as_o it_o be_v consider_v in_o itself_o as_o wood_n and_o stone_n neither_o as_o it_o be_v consider_v in_o the_o nature_n of_o a_o sign_n or_o representation_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v last_o merit_n merit_n look_v upon_o their_o doctrine_n of_o merit_n dangerous_a say_v bernard_n be_v the_o habitation_n of_o those_o that_o trust_v in_o their_o own_o merit_n 61._o in_o psal_n qui_fw-la habitat_fw-la vbi_fw-la tuta_fw-la firmaque_fw-la infirmis_fw-la securitas_fw-la &_o requi●●_n nisi_fw-la in_o vulneribus_fw-la saluatoru_fw-la tanto_fw-it illig_v securior_fw-la habito_fw-la quantò_fw-la ille_fw-la poten●●●_n est_fw-la ad_fw-la saluandum_fw-la bernard_n in_o canti_fw-la cantic_a serm._n 61._o again_o he_o proclaim_v our_o doctrine_n for_o the_o safe_a way_n in_o the_o sole_a confidence_n of_o christ_n merit_n vbi_fw-la tuta_fw-la what_o safe_a rest_n or_o security_n can_v the_o weak_a soul_n find_v but_o in_o the_o wound_n of_o our_o saviour_n as_o he_o be_v mighty_a to_o save_v so_o dwell_v i_o there_o with_o more_o safety_n and_o friar_n walden_n accord_v with_o the_o protestant_n in_o the_o same_o belief_n 7._o reputo_fw-la igitur_fw-la saniorem_fw-la theologun_n fideliorem_fw-la catholicum_fw-la &_o scripture_n sacris_fw-la magis_fw-la concordem_fw-la qui_fw-la tale_n meritum_fw-la simplicitèr_fw-la abnegat_fw-la etc._n etc._n wald._n tom._n 3._o the_o sacramental_a tit_n 1._o c._n 7._o i_o repute_v he_o say_v he_o the_o sound_a divine_a and_o more_o consonant_a to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n who_o do_v simple_o deny_v such_o merit_n and_o with_o the_o qualification_n of_o the_o apostle_n confess_v that_o simple_o no_o man_n merit_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n but_o by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n or_o will_n of_o the_o giver_n as_o all_o the_o former_a saint_n until_o the_o late_a schoolman_n and_o the_o universal_a church_n have_v write_v and_o for_o a_o conclusion_n of_o this_o point_n cardinal_n bellarmine_n who_o do_v labour_n and_o sweat_v by_o subtlety_n of_o wit_n to_o maintain_v merit_n of_o condignity_n and_o congruity_n at_o last_o confident_o resolve_v for_o fear_v of_o vain_a glory_n 7._o propter_fw-la incertuudinem_fw-la propriae_fw-la iustitiae_fw-la &_o periculum_fw-la inanis_fw-la gloriae_fw-la iutissimum_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n bellar._n de_fw-fr justif_n lib_n 5._o c._n 7._o and_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o our_o work_n tutissimum_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v the_o safe_a way_n to_o place_v all_o our_o trust_n in_o the_o only_a merit_n and_o favour_n of_o god_n and_o from_o these_o several_a confession_n i_o may_v infer_v that_o the_o protestant_a faith_n be_v more_o certain_a more_o safe_a and_o sure_a more_o comfortable_a and_o every_o way_n more_o profitable_a than_o the_o romish_a doctrine_n by_o the_o testimony_n of_o our_o adversary_n themselves_o for_o we_o protest_v against_o free_a will_n against_o the_o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n against_o private_a mass_n against_o prayer_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n against_o the_o worship_n of_o image_n against_o the_o doctrine_n of_o merit_n all_o which_o be_v receive_v for_o principal_a article_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o yet_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o the_o romanist_n to_o want_v that_o assurance_n that_o comfort_n that_o benefit_n that_o safety_n for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o faithful_a which_o the_o reform_a church_n teach_v and_o profess_v in_o a_o different_a doctrine_n at_o this_o day_n sect._n 12._o our_o adversary_n convict_v by_o the_o evident_a testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n either_o ridiculous_o elude_v they_o or_o plain_o reject_v they_o it_o be_v no_o wonder_n that_o many_o romanist_n be_v testes_fw-la veritatis_fw-la witness_n of_o god_n truth_n in_o the_o bosom_n of_o a_o corrupt_a church_n but_o it_o may_v seem_v strange_a that_o such_o man_n shall_v establish_v the_o antiquity_n of_o our_o doctrine_n by_o their_o own_o confession_n and_o decline_v the_o certainty_n and_o safety_n of_o their_o own_o and_o that_o it_o may_v yet_o further_o appear_v these_o be_v not_o force_v or_o feign_a allegation_n wrest_v to_o a_o other_o sense_n then_o their_o own_o man_n deliver_v they_o i_o will_v give_v you_o the_o express_a word_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n themselves_o whereby_o you_o shall_v observe_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v seek_v to_o elude_v all_o record_n and_o real_a proof_n in_o father_n and_o other_o learned_a author_n touch_v the_o chief_a point_n in_o controversy_n betwixt_o us._n 398._o chrys_n in_o homil_n 49._o opus_fw-la inpers_fw-la in_o math._n credibile_fw-la est_fw-la authorem_fw-la fuisse_fw-la catholicum_fw-la &_o opus_fw-la ipsum_fw-la doctum_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la videtur_fw-la esse_fw-la chrysostomi_n bellar._n de_fw-fr script_n eccles_n ad_fw-la au_fw-fr 398._o touch_v the_o all-sufficiencie_n of_o the_o scripture_n saint_n chrysostome_n say_v the_o church_n be_v know_v tantummodò_fw-la only_a by_o the_o scripture_n what_o say_v the_o romanist_n to_o this_o doctrine_n bellarmine_n answer_v it_o be_v probable_a the_o author_n be_v a_o catholic_a but_o it_o seem_v to_o be_v none_o of_o chrisostomes_n touch_v the_o adoration_n of_o saint_n saint_n austin_n say_v many_o be_v torment_v with_o the_o devil_n who_o be_v worship_v by_o man_n on_o earth_n what_o say_v the_o romanist_n to_o this_o doctrine_n bellarmine_n answer_v 9_o respondeo_fw-la lo_o cum_fw-la hunc_fw-la fortassè_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la augustini_fw-la idem_fw-la the_o sanct_a beat_v lib._n 1._o cap._n 9_o this_o place_n fortassè_fw-la peradventure_o be_v none_o of_o augustine_n touch_v the_o pope_n supremacy_n saint_n austin_n say_v 13._o august_n de_fw-fr verb._n domini_fw-la serm_fw-la 13._o thou_o be_v peter_n and_o upon_o the_o rock_n which_o thou_o have_v confess_v upon_o this_o rock_n which_o thou_o have_v know_v say_v
for_o contention_n a_o wood_n of_o thief_n 2_o thief_n canus_n li_n 3._o c._n 2_o a_o shop_n of_o heretic_n imperfect_a doubtful_a obscure_a litis_fw-la obscure_a gladius_n delphicus_fw-la regula_n lesbian_n calceus_fw-la utrique_fw-la pediaptus_fw-la folis_fw-la sybillae_fw-la sphyngi●_n aenigmata_fw-la materia_fw-la litis_fw-la full_a of_o perplexity_n and_o say_v pigghius_n as_o one_o have_v true_o and_o merry_o say_v the_o scripture_n be_v like_o a_o nose_n of_o wax_n 99_o wax_n turrianus_n adversus_fw-la sadeclum_n pa._n 99_o haereticorum_fw-la 99_o lu●us_fw-la praedonum_fw-la officina_fw-la haereticorum_fw-la 220._o haereticorum_fw-la charon_n de_fw-fr tribus_fw-la vertitatibus_fw-la p._n 220._o perplexa_fw-la 220._o jmperfecta_fw-la dubia_fw-la obscura_fw-la ambigua_fw-la perplexa_fw-la 3._o perplexa_fw-la lessius_fw-la in_o consult_v que_fw-fr fides_fw-la sit_fw-la capescenda_fw-la ration_n 11._o p._n 127._o &_o p._n 128._o sunt_fw-la scripturae_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la minus_fw-la verè_fw-la quum_fw-la festive_a dixit_fw-la quidam_fw-la velut_fw-la nasus_fw-la cereus_fw-la qui_fw-la se_fw-la horsun_fw-it illorsum_fw-la &_o quamcunque_fw-la volueris_fw-la partem_fw-la trabi_fw-la retrahi_fw-la fingique_fw-la facile_fw-la permittit_fw-la piggh._n hierarch_n li._n 3._o cap._n 3._o that_o easy_o suffer_v it_o self_n to_o be_v draw_v backward_o and_o forward_o to_o be_v mould_v and_o fashion_v this_o way_n and_o that_o way_n and_o howsoever_o you_o listen_v what_o further_a need_n have_v we_o of_o witness_n behold_v you_o have_v hear_v their_o blasphemy_n it_o be_v no_o wonder_n that_o robertus_fw-la tuitiensis_n cry_v out_o before_o the_o pope_n 3._o eras_n de_fw-fr rat_n conc_fw-fr l._n 3._o fie_o upon_o peter_n fie_o upon_o paul_n when_o these_o man_n dare_v deliver_v such_o accurse_a speech_n against_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o scripture_n certain_o the_o archangel_n contend_v with_o the_o devil_n dare_v not_o bring_v against_o he_o such_o 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