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testimony_n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o to_o make_v it_o manifest_a that_o as_o the_o scripture_n so_o they_o be_v also_o with_o we_o and_o so_o much_o shall_v be_v declare_v in_o the_o next_o section_n section_n viii_o the_o allegation_n of_o the_o learned_a which_o i_o purpose_v here_o to_o set_v down_o shall_v be_v take_v 1._o from_o papist_n 2._o lutheran_n 3._o calvinist_n 4._o english_a conformist_n 5._o the_o nonconformist_n 6._o ancient_a writer_n and_o last_o the_o confession_n of_o reform_a church_n howsoever_o romes-champion_n 5._o romes-champion_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr verb._n dei_fw-la l._n 3._o c._n 5._o rhem._n in_o mat._n 18.17_o &_o 1_o cor._n 5.2_o aegid_a topi._n conc._n in_o ep._n &_o euangel_n p._n 280._o stapl._n de_fw-fr auth_v eccl._n count_v whita_n c._n 1._o c._n 1._o sect._n 5._o will_v have_v none_o now_o to_o meddle_v with_o church-gouvernment_a but_o priest_n bishop_n prelate_n etc._n etc._n yet_o they_o do_v acknowledge_v that_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n 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